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Spectropop - Digest Number 2106



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There are 12 messages in this issue.


Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Reparata & the Delrons
           From: Phil Hall 
      2. Marcy Jo at the Car Hop
           From: Mick Patrick 
      3. Reparata & The Delrons
           From: Phil Hall 
      4. Rhino's One Kiss Leads to Another / Shrink Wrap Question
           From: Richard Williams 
      5. Re: Tony Orlando - Chills
           From: Donald J Hertel 
      6. Re: Answer Song Edits
           From: Fred Clemens 
      7. Re: Reparata & The Delrons
           From: Tony Leong 
      8. Re: Tony Orlando - Chills
           From: Peter Lerner 
      9. Re: Reparata & The Delrons live
           From: Ray Otto 
     10. Re: Darlene Love and Bobby Sheen - together again in musica
           From: Tony Leong 
     11. Re: Reparata & the Delrons live
           From: Tony Leong 
     12. More on Marcy Jo
           From: Wes Smith 


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________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:04:42 -0000 From: Phil Hall Subject: Re: Reparata & the Delrons Mick Patrick wrote: > Some years back my pal J. D. Doyle sent me a tape of (Reparata > & the Delrons') 1982 appearance on Don K. Reed's Doo Wop Shop. > The group performed several tracks a cappella live on the air. > I've posted one song to musica, a rather nice version of that > fabulous song "So Young": Mick, this is great stuff. I loved both of the Reparata tracks. Is it possible there are a few other gems from that tape that you might post to musica? Phil H. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:42:46 +0100 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Marcy Jo at the Car Hop Country Paul: > ... thanks for posting Marcy Jo's "Since Gary Went In The > Navy" to musica. I didn't know it was about Gary Troxel, but > have always loved the song... The S'pop Team: > Talking of Marcy Jo... The story of this Philly pop princess, > plus a discography, has just been uploaded to the main S'pop > website. Either visit the homepage and click on Marcy's > picture: http://www.spectropop.com Or access the article > directly here: http://www.spectropop.com/MarcyJo/index.htm > Enjoy, Antone: > Thanks for this, S'pop Team. I'm just beginning to catch up > on a week's worth (or so) of messages and am glad to know > there's a Marcy Jo tune at musica that I wasn't familiar with. > I've long been looking for a new copy of her duet with Eddie > Rambeau of The Car Hop And The Hard Top. Sorry, I can't help with "Car Hop". I have a feeling it's out on CD, but I can't remember which one. I'm sure another S'popper will know. "Gary" has, however, been re-posted to musica, so cop a listen: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/ Details are: Marcy Joe "Since Gary Went In The Navy" (Robbee R-115, 1961); written by J. Richards and S. Meshel; arranged and conducted by Lennie Martin; produced by Lennie & Lou. Hey la, Mick Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:17:27 -0000 From: Phil Hall Subject: Reparata & The Delrons I found an undated article on the internet that says Reparata & the Delrons (Mary, Cookie Sirico and Judy Jaye ) still perform together from time to time. Although I suspect the article may not be current, does anyone (Tony Leong?) know if they still perform occasionally? That would definitely be worth making a trip to the Big Apple for. Phil H. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:52:56 +0100 From: Richard Williams Subject: Rhino's One Kiss Leads to Another / Shrink Wrap Question 1. The legendary Hat Box arrived today. Everything everybody has already said is true: it gives exposure to the obscure, refreshes the over-familiar, and even transforms records that I've known for 40 years and not particularly liked. Now isn't that the sign of a great compilation? All it can't do is make me prefer Lesley Gore's "What Am I Gonna Do With You (Hey Baby)" to the Inspirations' version. And that's a small, personal thing. Thanks to everybody concerned in bringing this hoard of treasure to us with such enthusiasm, imagination and care, and particularly to Sheila Burgel for her annotation. 2. I reckon UK albums went unshrinkwrapped because, unlike their US equivalents, the sleeve were already laminated, usually with a British Celanese product called Clarifoil. Those of us stuck on this side of the Atlantic greatly lusted after those thick matt- finish cardboard US sleeves from labels such as Blue Note, Riverside, Stax, Motown etc. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 22:19:16 -0000 From: Donald J Hertel Subject: Re: Tony Orlando - Chills Mick asked about: > "At The Edge Of Tears" Tony Orlando (Epic 9519) Peter Lerner: > Well Mick, my 45 is actually Columbia DB 4871 (UK release in 1962), > and it says that the song is written by B.Arthur and P.Kaufman. > Orchestra conducted by Matt Maurer. I bought the 45 in 1962 and > have to say both sides are an absolute gas, the better known A side > being the remarkable "Chills" by J. Keller and G. Goffin, with > "orchestra conducted by Carole King". Wow! Peter, Is "Chills" available on CD? If not, can you play it to Musica. I've only heard it by Gerry & The Pacemakers. Don H. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:40:34 -0000 From: Fred Clemens Subject: Re: Answer Song Edits James Botticelli wrote: > Hi everyone....I'm off on a new project. That is taking songs > that have answer songs that sound similar and have similar if > not identical tempos and editing them so they become one song. > I'm looking for ideas and/or CD Burns of the two songs so I > can upload them and do the edit. I tried something like that not too long ago. The original song was "The Chosen Few" by Dion and the Timberlanes, Dion's first song from 1957. I recently discovered an answer song to it recorded two years later by Joyce Heath with the Timberlanes. The song was called "Promise Me, Sweetheart", and is ALMOST identical in arrangement. They even share the same musical bridge. With the Heath song being at a slightly faster tempo, I had them meet at the bridge when I overlapped them. The way she sings her song is abit offset to the music when compared to Dion's tune, so when they overlap, it's like they're singing a duet. If I can ever get the time AND patience, I suppose I could fine-tune the pitch on one or the other and have the music match throughout. Good luck on your project! Fred Clemens -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:59:45 -0000 From: Tony Leong Subject: Re: Reparata & The Delrons Phil Hall wrote: > I found an undated article on the internet that says Reparata & > the Delrons (Mary, Cookie Sirico and Judy Jaye ) still perform > together from time to time. Although I suspect the article may > not be current, does anyone (Tony Leong?) know if they still > perform occasionally? That would definitely be worth making a > trip to the Big Apple for. Hello Phil, and all the Delrons Fans out there. No, Reparata and the Delrons no longer perform as a group. Mary disbanded the group a couple of years ago when she also retired from teaching. The only "Delron" that still performs but with another group is Nanette Licari. All of the other members have regular day jobs outside of the music business. Tony Leong -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 08:27:43 +0100 From: Peter Lerner Subject: Re: Tony Orlando - Chills Don asked me: > Peter, Is "Chills" available on CD? If not, can you play it to > Musica. I've only heard it by Gerry & The Pacemakers. Don, I have it on the bootleg CD "Tony Orlando Hits and Rarities" on Marginal 016. I suspect it is now deleted, however, but you may be able to pick one up via an internet search. If I knew how to play it to Musica I would! I would appreciate a Spectropop Masterclass from someone who could explain it simply to me. Peter -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 19:55:20 -0400 From: Ray Otto Subject: Re: Reparata & The Delrons live Phil Milstein asked: > Perhaps you could elaborate on the live shows, Ray -- what kinds > of venues did they play; were they mostly in the NYC area (that > is, until "Captain Of Your Ship" hit it big in Europe); was it > mostly in the multiple-act, two-song apiece "revue" format, or > full-length shows, etc. The first important live shows the group performed was when "Teenager" first became popular, the group was signed for two back to back Dick Clark Caravan of Stars tours. Those were brutal one- nighters, which, after the first tour, resulted in the break-up of the original Delrons. The tours were always advertised and described as a group of popular recording stars riding on a luxury bus with Dick Clark at the wheel. In truth, Dick was only on the bus for the picture. He usually flew in to the shows to introduce the acts, and then only for the big-city stops. On their first tour there wasn't even a bus. They were provided with rented station wagons that the "stars" drove themselves. So, Lou Christie or Round Robin or somebody else was usually asked to drive hours and hours going from gig to gig. On the second tour they had a bus, but sometimes, instead of stopping at a hotel, they rode all night to their next stop. Mary remembers Ron Dante climbing up to and sleeping in the luggage racks of the bus. The venues were a mixed bag of places. In small cities it might have been a small place with a few hundred in the audience. In large cities the show sometimes drew thousands. Regardless of the size of the venue, the show was always sold out. Mary became good friends with Lou Christie from the first tour, and she will always be very grateful to Ron Dante and The Detergents for volunteering to sing background for her on the second tour when her Delrons chose to quit the group. In the New York City area, "Teenager" and "Tommy" became big hits locally so the group performed at all the popular places: the Bitter End, the Starlight Lounge, the Page Two on Long Island, and so many other clubs whose names have escaped me. The show was about an hour in length. They sang their own songs and had their own back-up band. Their set included many of the girl group favorites: "Dancing in The Street," "Heat Wave," etc. Once Lorraine and and Nanette joined the team, the act became fine-tuned. They started doing a Spector medley: "He's A Rebel," "Be My Baby," "Da Do Ron Ron," "Then He Kissed Me," etc. They also did "Leader Of The Pack" (which was great -- they donned leather jackets and did a really humorous rendition of the song). Plus, "Please Mister Postman," "Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy," "Tell Him," "So Young," and/or "I Believe." The show and the song selections kept changing through the years, so it was always fresh. In the seventies and especially in the early eighties and right into the nineties, they participated in many oldies shows with other artists. Here they usually did three songs. They turned "Teeanger" and "Tommy" into a one-song medley and then did two others. Overall, just like any other act I suppose, they did the gamut of venues, from bowling alleys and gymnasiums to places like Madison Square Garden and Atlantic City hotel lounges. Most of the shows were in the tri-state New York area, but occasionally they had a gig further away. Ray -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 04:06:29 -0000 From: Tony Leong Subject: Re: Darlene Love and Bobby Sheen - together again in musica David A Young: > Playing in musica currently are dueling versions of "I Shook the > World." The first, from 1963, is credited to Bob B. Soxx & the Blue > Jeans and comes from their sole LP; since it hasn't been released > on CD, I can share it with you here. Darlene sings lead (and > background); what I find curious about this and another song from > the album, "Jimmy Baby," is that they have the same backing tracks > as their co-composer Jackie DeShannon's demo versions. I've always > wondered: How is it that Phil came to produce demos for her (at > least these two)? Bill George or Peter Lerner, do you know the > answer to that question? Um, I actually have a Japanese released CD of the "Bob B Soxx and the Blue Jeans" 1963 LP. I think it was a bootleg as the sound is horrible, but that is the ONLY CD release of that LP that I have seen!! Tony Leong -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 04:28:24 -0000 From: Tony Leong Subject: Re: Reparata & the Delrons live Ray Otto wrote: > Phil, I agree, it is a great performance. "So Young" was > Reparata's favorite song from the Ronettes Philles album. She > used to play and sing along with Ronnie long before she was > singing professionally. It then became a staple in R & D's live > shows. Phil M: > Perhaps you could elaborate on the live shows, Ray -- what kinds > of venues did they play; were they mostly in the NYC area (that > is, until "Captain Of Your Ship" hit it big in Europe); was it > mostly in the multiple-act, two-song apiece "revue" format, or > full-length shows, etc. Each time I saw the Delrons in the '80's or '90's, it was an even mixture of them performing alone or in a revue. They usually did covers "("Get Ready", "Too Many Fish In The Sea" and a medley ((Andrews Sisters or Everly Bros.)). When they did "Teenager" and "Tommy", it was usually in abbreviated form. To my dismay, they never sang "Do Wah Diddy" or any of the RCA or Bell material. They did a great versatile show. I also recall Mary talking about the Dick Clark Tours in the '60's then singing "Tears On My Pillow". I do know that the 2 Dick Clark tours in early 1965 were the groups' first major treks (they shared the bill with the Stones (select shows), Shangri-Las (for 2 weeks), Billy Stewart, Herman, Tommy Roe, Del Shannon, Detergents and many many others that came and went). Then Mary and/or Nanette said they did live shows on weekends and school vacations as they were full timers in Brooklyn College until "Captain Of Your Ship". Then they did clubs and promo shows in Europe. Back in the Ny area by the late '60's, they were back to doing smaller clubs because those Caravan of Stars type tours did not exist any longer. Then later, the "Revival Shows" started, and that's where I usually saw them performing (not to mention fairs and park shows in the boroughs). Again, they always put on a great show, and were always very nice to me when I went to chat with them. And I always called Mary (to this day actually) "Mrs O Leary" because she was a school teacher!!!!!! Tony Leong -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 05:56:08 -0000 From: Wes Smith Subject: More on Marcy Jo Previously: > Talking of Marcy Jo... The story of this Philly pop princess, > plus a discography, has just been uploaded to the main S'pop > website. Either visit the homepage and click on Marcy's picture: > http://www.spectropop.com Or access the article directly here: > http://www.spectropop.com/MarcyJo/index.htm Enjoy. Another Marcy gem is the back side of her lone Billboard chart hit, "Ronnie". "My First Mistake" is a nice ballad that shouldn't be overlooked bt her fans. Also, I noticed that "Ronnie" was getting air play on WORC, Worcester, Ma., a good couple of months before charting on Billboard in May, 1961. In reply to another post, "The Car Hop And The Hardtop" is included on the (U.K.) Castle 3 C.D. set, "Midnight Cryin' Time", as are many other good uncommon sides and sound quality on this set is excellent to my ears. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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