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Spectropop - Digest Number 2093

               SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop!

There are 15 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Gerry and Jerry and "You'll Never Walk Alone"
           From: Phil X Milstein 
      2. One Kiss . . . Girl Group Sounds, Lost and Found
           From: Martin Roberts 
      3. Archies reunion at the Bubblegum Achievement Awards
           From: Kim Cooper 
      4. Joe Meek's lab rats and Linda's dead boyfriend
           From: Julio Niņo 
      5. Re: Teddy Vann discography
           From: Davie Gordon 
      6. Re: City Zu "Give A Little Bit"
           From: John Berg 
      7. Jan Berry's Mother Earth 45
           From: Brian Chidester 
      8. Joe Donovan, DJ
           From: Michael Gessner 
      9. Jan Berry's 1970's work
           From: James Cassidy 
     10. Re: Jan Berry's Mother Earth 45
           From: Michael Thom 
     11. Linda Gray
           From: James Cassidy 
     12. Chuck and Jan Berry
           From: Steve Harvey 
     13. Re: Linda Gray
           From: Martin Roberts 
     14. Re:  Joe Donovan, DJ
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     15. Re: Sue Lynn
           From: Will Stos 

Message: 1 Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:39:42 -0400 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Gerry and Jerry and "You'll Never Walk Alone" Any Liverpudlians among the Spectropopulation? I'm hunting versions of "You'll Never Walk Alone." I'm aware it is the theme song of the Liverpool Football Club (although that is not the reason I'm hunting versions of it). As far as I can tell, Gerry & The Pacemakers' is the at least quasi-official version of the LFC -- is that true? The song is more famous in the U.S. as a theme song of another Jerry, that being Jerry Lewis, who has long used it to climax his annual Labor Day telethon for Muscular Dystrophy (whereas Charlie Chaplin's "Smile" has always been his general purpose theme). This strikes me as a little freaky, though, as doesn't the song's message totally contradict the concept of helping M.D. patients to achieve a better and more independent life? I realize the telethon has become an arch-enemy of the politically correct crowd, but I've yet to hear one of them complain about Jerry's use of such an antithetical song to wring closing-moment bucks from his viewership. Maybe he really is the Devil after all. ("No," he insists, "I just played Him in 'Damn Yankees'.") Anyhoo, that's neither here nor there; all I'm really after here is some confirmation that Gerry (with a "G")'s version is the predominant one for LFC fans. Thanks, --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 22:42:41 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: One Kiss . . . Girl Group Sounds, Lost and Found Two box sets in three days, well, who's a lucky boy then?! The rather dark Joe Meek set contrasts with the fun and froth of the Rhino Girl Group as does chalk with cheese. If Meek's set shows the anguish behind the hits, Rhino unashamedly glorifies them. Not all hits, a hefty lot of near misses and ones that never even came close but they all shoulda, coulda, been. I've not played all the CDs yet, but the ones I have sound great. (Seemingly there is no need for the worries expressed over the sound quality.) Neither have I done more than speed-read Sheila's witty, informative booklet. There is plenty of time for serious discussion of these. What has really impressed and amazed me is the quality of the packaging, look and feel of the set. It's unlike anything I've seen previously: camp, kitsch, bizarre, zany, all of these and more, you've got to see it to believe it! How, though, is a real man meant to walk up to a record counter and buy a copy? Say it loud and say it proud "Oooh haven't you got the hat box in pink and lilac?" And where to put it once bought? Mine in its black and white box will sit perfectly on my dresser, next to my gentleman's sponge bag:-) Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:12:54 -0700 From: Kim Cooper Subject: Archies reunion at the Bubblegum Achievement Awards and yet more surprises, within: -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:27:31 -0000 From: Julio Niņo Subject: Joe Meek's lab rats and Linda's dead boyfriend Hola everybody. Martin Roberts wrote about The new Joe Meekīs box set: > For serious record collectors rather than the more casual > buyer I've yet to see a more mouth-watering compilation... Iīve also found that box set fascinating. The notes and the photos of the booklet are indeed very interesting, although the paper is so thin that in some pages the words printed on the opposite side mix with the lines you are trying to read, and when you touch the booklet you have the impression that if youīre not careful it can dissolve in your hands and disappear. But I guess itīs the price you pay for the low price of the box. The tracks are fascinating. Listening to them is like observing the crazy pursuits of a mad scientist. I donīt think that Joe looked for recherché artistic objectives, I think that he always wanted to be appreciated by the public and have hits. I donīt believe he was even very conscious of his weirdness, in musical terms; but when you listen to his music you have the impression that he was a prisoner in his own strange world, becoming more and more isolated in his fantasies. Thatīs what makes some of his tracks so unexpected and unique. Most of the artists he worked with ended up being kind of lab rats for his experiments, maybe that īs the reason why some of them felt alienated (and sometimes horrified) from their own tracks. A curious theory proposes that laughing could be a brain mechanism for eliminate unexpected information that canīt be properly process, in order to avoid getting blocked. I often laugh listening to Joe Meekīs tracks , and I love that. Iīm going to take my siesta. Chao. Julio Niņo. PS: Two hour later..... I woke up to a wet tragedy : "The Sea Took Him Away" by Linda Gray. I love it. Thank you very much to Martin for playing it. Martin, how much must I beg to listen to the other side?... -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 5 Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 13:37:45 -0000 From: Davie Gordon Subject: Re: Teddy Vann discography Hans Huss wrote: > Found two more... > RASHI (RCA 10630) 1976... > SOUNDS OF LOVE (RCA 10818) 1976... Thanks Hasse, the Sounds of Love one was news to me. Here are the additions all in one place. I'll give it another few weeks then re-edit ther whole thing and post it to the files section. Teddy Vann is still alive and working in NY. I'm trying to find out an e-mail address for him. Davie ADDITIONS * == unconfirmed DARLENE McCRAE (Roulette 4173) BB08/17/59 You Made A Fool Of Me (Teddy Vann) You (Teddy Vann) Prod : Teddy Vann TENDER SLIM (Grey Cliff 723) 12/59 Teenage Hayride (Teddy Vann) Hey Joe Prod : Teddy Vann [this must be one of the most obscure records to ever chart - it reached # 93 on Billboard's Hot 100 but other than that I haven't been able to trace any further info. about Tender Slim] * PRENTISS POLK (Columbia 42178) late '61 Hit Record (Teddy Vann) Not Me THE FOUR RIVERS (Josie 901) 10/62 I Confess (T. Vann, N. Nathan) Sooner Or Later Prod : Teddy Vann [This Oakland,Ca. group were fronted by soul legend Freddie Hughes] THE JET SET (Blaine 4000) c.06/65 Jet Set (Teddy Vann, Fred Williams) Swing, Swing, Jet Prod : Teddy Vann * MARGARET ANN WILLIAMS (Sue 45-134) c08/65 The Ten Commandments Of Soul Words TEDDY VANN (Capitol T2597) 1967? "The Adventures Of Colored Man" album THE BURNING EMOTION (Bang 553) BB 01/13/68 The Whatchamacallit New World Prod : Teddy Vann [reissued on ABC 11178, 02/69] MARKE JACKSON (Diamond 237) BB 01/13/68 Ode To Otis Redding Beautiful Place Prod : Teddy Vann [probably the first of the Otis Redding tribute records] MAXIMILIAN : "Maximilian" ABC 1969 Prod : Teddy Vann AKIM (Simtone 1223) 12/73 Santa Claus Is A Black Man (Teddy Vann) A Natural Santa Prod : Teddy Vann arr : Teddy Vann RASHI (RCA 10630) 1976 One On One (Teddy Vann) Essence Prod : Teddy Vann arr : Horace Ott -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 6 Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 13:52:32 -0700 From: John Berg Subject: Re: City Zu "Give A Little Bit" A few more notes about City Zu. You can check out their website to learn some of the band's history, as told in a rather cryptic/ humorous tone by "Jerry Zu" Matheson, and also listen to a portion of "Give A Little Bit". This song was written and produced by Jerry Fuller in LA, and was their most commercial effort. It was a hit on Northwest radio but slightly missed the mark at the national level. Only three band members actually play on it -- Jerry Zu (vocals and sax in the band, to this day), Mike Cox (bass) and Doug Heath (guitar) plus some members of the Knickerbockers -- who had cut a demo of the song. Jerry Fuller's involvement with City Zu waned when he discovered Gary Puckett and the Union Gap, and as their hit-making took off the City Zu suffered indifference and moved on. The band released two other 45s that were harder --even slightly "psychedelic" -- in tone, with at least one on the Dot label. Doug Heath later connected with Paul Revere and has been lead guitarist in the Raiders for something like 20 or more years (Revere's website will tell you the details). City Zu still play 45 or so weeks per year in Nevada at casinos and hotels, making a steady living for Jerry Zu and his cohorts. His present drummer, Tim Kelliher, once played in several seminal Spokane area '60s rock bands, then was with guitarist Randy Hanson (who achieved some modest fame as a Hendrix channeler) before hooking up with City Zu. There is lots of unreleased City Zu music from the '60s and early '70s on tape; it just takes someone willing to invest a few thousand dollars to release a proper compilation CD. Jerry himself is always looking forward, not back, so he will not likely undertake such a project himself but would love to see it happen. John Berg in Seattle -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 7 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 15:51:33 -0400 From: Brian Chidester Subject: Jan Berry's Mother Earth 45 Previously: > This is my first post so I hope It's suitable. After many years > of searching I just tracked down a copy of Jan Berry's Mother > Earth 45, which is a brilliant Surfs Up/Sunflower era soundalike. > Does anyone out there know any of the other singles he issued in > the '70s? Are they any good? I'm quite intrigued by the 1 JAN 1 > 45. Also, did he record any '70s solo albums? Jan cut a song called "Sing Sang a Song" in the mid-'70s that was really great. In fact, just about every Jan Berry single from the '70s has the same feel, and all have excellent melodies and arrangements. Clearly Jan did not lose his talent for writing and producing. The vocals are often warbly and rough upon first listen. Some people clearly feel that they know too much history to enjoy them, and can only hear a crippled man trying to sing lead vocals when he maybe shouldn't have been. I do not feel that way, however, and whatever the history behind those records was, it's the music that matters, and Jan still had some great chops during the early '70s heaviness/hippie era. There was no '70s Jan Berry album, but the full run of Jan's '70s singles was compiled on the stellar (and essential) LEGENDARY MASKED SURFERS bootleg double-LP. That was also the place where many of the CARNIVAL OF SOUND songs were first released on an LP, and they sounded amazing in the context of an actual album. It's a bootleg, but it was better than any 33 & 1/3 product that came out under Jan & Dean during the '70s. Hope that helps. Brian Chidester -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 8 Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 01:02:11 -0400 From: Michael Gessner Subject: Joe Donovan, DJ I, too, listened to Joe Donovan on WHAS Louisville. I knew him in Denver on KOA (850AM) as Joe Douglas in the mid 70s and was once a live guest in his studio at KOA with some trivia friends. His own knowledgw was incredible. He knew the Whitburn Top 100 book virtually by heart. He offered prizes if you could stump him on 1955-69 songs. I had tried for 10 yrs to ID a song from song lyric snippets. He knew immediately it was The Present doing "Baby The World Really Turns" on Philips. Great song. Does anyone know his real last name? I think it was Douth or something like that. Mike in Philly -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 9 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 20:45:21 -0400 From: James Cassidy Subject: Jan Berry's 1970's work Alan asked: > Does anyone out there know any of the other singles he issued > in the '70s? Are they any good? I'm quite intrigued by the 1 > JAN 1 45. Also, did he record any '70s solo albums? Lou Adler, who ran Ode and was Jan & Dean's manager, pretty much gave Jan free rein to release any material on Ode as he worked to recover from his car accident. In addition to the three singles you mentioned, Jan put out a version of Chuck Berry's "Little Queenie" and a single credited to Jan & Dean, "Fun City." Of the songs Alan mentioned, "Don't You Just Know It," the Huey Smith & the Clowns classic, is just plain weird, with Jan clearly struggling with his lines and Brian Wilson (who was not in great shape at the time, either) putting in minimal effort. "Tinsel Town" is not a bad tune with some abrupt key changes and interesting production. "Little Queenie" was apparently an effort to emulate the Beach Boys' success with "Rock 'n' Roll Music." "Fun City" is OK. Later, there was a cassette-only album credited to Jan & Dean, "Port to Paradise," that had some other mostly-Jan material on it. Unfortunately, because of Jan's aphasia, a lot of his singing has an "English as a second language" quality to it. Jim Cassidy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 10 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:12:38 -0500 From: Michael Thom Subject: Re: Jan Berry's Mother Earth 45 Here's a complete list of Jan's 1970s singles, including the Jan and Dean single on Ode: Ode 66023-Mother Earth/Blue Moon Shuffle (as Jan Berry; promo only with insert card stating: "Hello out there: You know that Jan and Dean haven't done anything in a long time, But I've been recovering, and have made my first record which is a ballad. Play it and see if you like it. If so, then I'm back on the scene. Thank you, (signed) Jan Berry"; B-side is instrumental) -1972 Ode 66034-Don't You Just Know It/Blue Moon Shuffle (as Jan; promo only, with Brian Wilson, uncredited, on backing vocals on A-side) -1973 Ode 66050-Tinsel Town (Hitch-a-Ride to Hollywood)/Blow Up Music (as 1 Jan 1, promo only; A-side is "Blue Moon Shuffle" with lyrics added)-1974 Ode 66111-Fun City/Totally Wild (Jan and Dean; stock copies pressed)-1975 Ode 66120-Sing Sang a Song/same (as Jan Berry, stereo/mono promo only)-1976 A&M 1957-Little Queenie/That's the Way It Is (as Jan Berry; stock copies with B-side, promos have A-side stereo/mono)-1977 A&M 2020-Skateboard Surfin' USA (Sidewalk Surfin' With Me)/How- How I Love Her (as Jan Berry; stock copies with B-side, promos have A-side stereo/mono)-1978 Michael Thom -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 11 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 21:00:03 -0400 From: James Cassidy Subject: Linda Gray Martin Roberts: > Not only a surfing girl 45, but a death disc to boot! A great > record from Linda Gray, "The Sea Took Him Away" on Karate 813. Classic track, Martin! Is that *the* Linda Gray of "Dallas" fame? Jim Cassidy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 12 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 18:30:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Chuck and Jan Berry Previously: > Does anyone out there know any of the other singles he issued in > the '70s? Are they any good? I'm quite intrigued by the 1 JAN 1 > 45. Also, did he record any '70s solo albums? Jan's "Girl You're Blowing My Mind" was a really cool psych take. There is a bootleg Cd of different takes of this tune. His cover of "Little Queenie" was also great. Steve Harvey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 13 Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 18:33:25 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Re: Linda Gray Jim Cassidy asked, > Is that *the* Linda Gray of "Dallas" fame? I'm not sure if there's actual 'proof' but I'm fairly sure that pal Ian Chapman (remember him, ol' 'Golden Ears'?) told me it was. I bought the record some decades ago when records from the US seemed to cost pennies. I was always taking a chance on a likely label, name or even approximate year of release. Many weren't even worth the pennies but most are still in my collection. Including this one, which the seller even deducted from the bill because of its poor condition. The flip, which I think was the intended a-side, plays much better. I've never needed telling that there are still many fine records awaiting discovery. And I am pleased that even with the heavily mined girl and surf records, years of collecting and the plethora of great CD compilations, most seemingly compiled by Mick Patrick, to have turned some folk on to a goodie, Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 14 Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 10:57:19 -0400 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: Joe Donovan, DJ Michael Gessner wrote: > I, too, listened to Joe Donovan on WHAS Louisville. ... "Odd And Obscure" is an intriguing name for a commercial, AM radio show. Just how odd and obscure did Mr. Donovan's playlist get? --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 15 Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 15:55:27 -0000 From: Will Stos Subject: Re: Sue Lynn Previously: > A particular standout is the weird and wonderful "Reach For > The Moon" by Sue Lynn. Dave Heasman: > Is this Sue Lynn English by any chance? There was a top-ish > model by that name in the late 60s. She might be English because the "Reach For The Moon" track appears alongside other Brit Girls. Can anyone confirm if the model was also the singer? Will : ) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- SPECTROPOP features: End

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