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There are 8 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Diamond and Neil Diamond
           From: Regina Litman 
      2. Re: Jigsaw; The Mob; Donna Marie
           From: Bob Rashkow 
      3. Re: Kim Fowley's "Lights"
           From: Karl Ikola 
      4. Re: The Temptations - no, not that group
           From: Fred Clemens 
      5. Re: Colossus Records
           From: Karl Ikola 
      6. Re: Rock And Roll City
           From: Kingsley Abbott 
      7. Re: not Wyman
           From: Richard Havers 
      8. Re: "The Penthouse"
           From: Austin Powell 

Message: 1 Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 02:26:11 -0000 From: Regina Litman Subject: Re: Diamond and Neil Diamond Tom Diehl wrote: > I have a promo of Pat Boone's 45 of "Ten Lonely Guys." It credits > the songwriters as follows: Feldman, Goldstein, Gottehrer, Elgin, > Rogers, Edwards. Jr, Weiss, Adams, Farrell, Lewis. I found this message from several months ago after plugging Neil's name into the search box here. In addition to the "Ten Lonely Guys" song done by the Ten Broken Hearts (or was it "Ten Broken Hearts" sung by the Ten Broken Hearts?), Neil had another connection to the Diamond label when he wrote and produced a few songs recorded by Ronnie Dove. One of these songs, "My Babe", was a "bottom 60" entry on the Billboard Hot 100 in 1967. Another one, "Back From Baltimore", was the B-side of "Dancing Out of My Heart", released by Dove later that same year. The third song, "Put My Mind At Ease", was the B-side of "My Babe". At that time, I was not yet a Neil Diamond fan, but living in the Washington area, we heard a lot of Ronnie Dove on the radio. He wasn't a favorite of mine (never been a fan of weepy ballads, even [especially] ones sung by Neil), but I did notice that he recorded for a company called Diamond. When I heard that this Neil Diamond guy who had had a few hits of his own by then and was also riding the top of the charts with the Monkees songs he had written wrote and produced some Ronnie Dove songs, I wondered if he was the label owner who had decided to try his hand as a performer, too. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 00:59:09 EDT From: Bob Rashkow Subject: Re: Jigsaw; The Mob; Donna Marie Though I haven't ever heard Jigsaw's late 6Ts-early 7Ts output, I will say that "Sky High" took some time to grow on me. It was already in the Top 10 before I became aware that I really liked the song. I'm not altogether certain that the Colossus "Mob" ("I Dig Everything About You") is the Chicago group that recorded several years earlier on Mercury, but I'm not altogether certain that it's not. Simon White, loved your palindrome ("Sit on a potato pan, Otis"). Are there any song or album titles with palindromes besides "Aoxomoxoa" (LP by the Grateful Dead) and "Madam, I'm Adam" by The Tubes? I think Mike Edwards is correct about Lisa Shane's recording of "The Penthouse." Donna Marie (the one who sang with The Archies, Ron Dante et al; not to be confused with the Donna Marie on Coral who did "Eddie Wasn't There" in '65) may have covered the tune. I don't know if she does the same song because I'm not familiar with her Columbia 45, but I think she's American, not British. Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 00:41:13 -0700 From: Karl Ikola Subject: Re: Kim Fowley's "Lights" Mark Wirtz wrote: > Just to make matters more complex -- it is quite possible, even > most likely, that Jimmy played on my Kim Fowley session for the > track "Lights." Now THAT combination will have been Kismet! Mark, I know you've posted here frequently in the past, but I wasn't on the list then. I'm a very big Fowley fan, and love the "Something New And Different" b/w "Lights" 45 (released in '67 in the UK on Parlophone, and on Loma in the US). Was Kim upfront with you, or did you already know, that "Lights" (later titled "Lights The Blind And Lame Can See" on his "Good Clean Fun" LP from '70) borrowed the melodic hook from the Hep Stars' "Wedding"? The Hep Stars original has "extra resonance" with me because of the later Fowley "theft" connection. And "Something New And Different" (fantastic tympani!) and "Pop Art '66" are genius productions. KI -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 4 Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 03:16:58 -0000 From: Fred Clemens Subject: Re: The Temptations - no, not that group Regina Litman asked: > Is this a third Temptations, or did the "Barbara" group adopt this > atypical sound somewhere along the line? The Temptations group on Parkway were of course not the Motown group, nor the Goldisc group. The Temptations in question were actually the first to use the name, beginning in 1956 and first recording in 1958 for the Savoy label. The group/band (they all played their own instruments) originated out of Bayonne, New Jersey. They were John Moore, Bob Moore, Ted "Butch" Moore, Kenny Fackler, and Billy Lee (Lubeck). I'm not certain if all members were on the Parkway sides (the other side was called "Temptation", not on the CD package), but when I first heard it, I knew right away it was them. It was said at one time that when the Motown group learned of them, they asked that they stop using the Temptations name. The Bayonne group replied with the same request. There were actually more different Temptations groups at the time, but I'll let that go for now. Fred Clemens -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 5 Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 00:36:38 -0700 From: Karl Ikola Subject: Re: Colossus Records Phil M. asked: > Also, did Colossus release records by acts OTHER than Dutch ones? The most valuable (and best, if you're a hard/psych fan) is the Maypole LP, recently bootlegged on Radioactive. Man, that Mob LP is a genuine "horn rock atrocity". I handled a perfect, like-new copy at a store that had a listening turntable, and despite my fetish for pristine vintage vinyl, could not justify the $10 required to take it home. I'm sure it's someone's all-time favorite, though -- isn't everything? KI -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 6 Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 12:02:49 +0100 From: Kingsley Abbott Subject: Re: Rock And Roll City Nick Archer wrote: > What I'd like to know is, do these songs have any > historical value, or was this a re-issue of some > cheesy old tracks? Who was Hitbound Records? The album basically was a Mike Love 'lets get back to the old hit days' project. He was gigging occassionally with Dean at the time, and working on and off on an ongoing series of solo projects. Ex-Beach Boy Adrian Baker was asked by mike to work up some of the tracks for this one (from memory Lightnin' Strikes and Da Doo Ron Ron are his at least) and then Mike pulled in an oddball selection of other tracks to fill up the album. There was also a similar (vinyl as well) Xmas album that had an accompanying 'snowfall and glowing fires' promo film show that was probably sold to TV. I believe that The Association (with quite a changed lineup at that stage) also cut a whole album at the time, but I have never seen this and heard that it was poor by comparison to their earlier work. I beleive Hitbound Records was a name owned by the Radio Shack/Tandy empire through which the things were initially exclusively sold. I heard the R&R City album at a friend's, and have never felt the need to detach my cassette copy of it from its 12" piece of backing card -- which explains the poor quality colour scan of it in the little piece I wrote about it recently in UK's Record Collector mag. Historical Interest? For me, It's a case of file under 'Make a quick buck'. Kingsley Abbott -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 7 Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:32:19 +0100 From: Richard Havers Subject: Re: not Wyman Claire Francis wrote, via Eddy Smit: > "Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page and Bill Wyman played on: "I've Got >My Own Thing Going"; "Here I Go Again" Artist was me. I was pretty sure that Bill Wyman didn't play on this session, so I asked him: "Not me -- maybe the other two, though." Richard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 8 Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 08:23:06 +0100 From: Austin Powell Subject: Re: "The Penthouse" The soundtrack is available on a Harkit Records CD (HRKCD 8081). The singer on "The World Is Full Of Lonely Men" is Lisa Shane. Austin P -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- SPECTROPOP features: http://www.spectropop.com End

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