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Spectropop - Digest Number 2060

               SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop!

There are 8 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Re: Ventures
           From: Steve Harvey 
      2. Shelter From The Storm
           From: Mike Rashkow 
      3. Re: The Victorians
           From: Mick Patrick 
      4. Re: Shelby Flint
           From: Ken Silverwood 
      5. Re: The Ventures
           From: Gary Myers 
      6. Memories of the 1962 Motown Revue  photo book
           From: David Bell 
      7. "Keep A Knockin'"
           From: Joop 
      8. Jeannie Thomas / Strand Records
           From: Austin Powell 

Message: 1 Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 15:57:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Re: Re: Ventures Jack Russell wrote: > I once played a gig in Wick, which is as far north in Scotland as > you can go without a boat, and in the local pub after the gig we > were introduced to a guy who, local legend had it, had been the > bass player with The Ventures. Now because The Ventures were really > only two guys they may have had itinerant sidemen and it could have > been true. I was a great fan but in the UK we did not have access > to really good lineup info so I could never prove it one way or > another. Does anyone know if it could have been true or whether the > locals were just pulling our wire? Jack, Bogle and Wilson are the two mainstays of the Ventures since the start. Originally Nokie played bass, but persuaded Bogle to take it over so he could play guitar. Whoever you met I think was pulling a fast one. I know the original drummer could not tour due to a broken neck (not making this up) and they got Mel Taylor (his brother was the bassist for Canned Heat) to join them. Nokie eventually left and Gerry came in. There is a live album of the Ventures which features some cuts live in England, but from what I've been told they never played there, did they? They rarely play the States anymore. Too busy in Japan. When I saw them I asked Bogle if they'd ever thought of doing an album with the Shadows. He said no, but mentioned meeting Bruce Welch in Japan once. The funny thing with Hank Marvin and his Strat is that he really wanted to be the next James Burton, who plays a Tele. Had he seen a picture of Burton before Cliff visited Manny's back in the 50s things would have been alot different over in the UK rock scene. Les Paul invented the solid body electric guitar thanks to the Log, but the electric guitar had been around a while before he made the Log (Charlie Christian, etc.). Steve Harvey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 21:13:54 EDT From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Shelter From The Storm IMHO this was the best possible show and the classiest fund raiser I've ever seen. The minimalist concept of no intros, no credits, no bs--just music and short pitches was brilliant as was the entire production. Putting it together in such a short time frame was an amazing feat. Kudos to all involved. If you did not catch it, see if you can get a tape or DVD from someone. Great stuff. Di la, Rashkovsky -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:16:43 +0100 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: The Victorians Richard Price: > Has anyone heard the song "You're Invited To A Party" by The > Victorians? They have the Spector "Wall Of Sound". Is It out > on CD? Julio Niño: > It's included in the fabulous "Girls Go Zonk!" on RPM. And > it's one of the 22 good reasons to buy that CD. Read more about "Girls Go Zonk!!" here: Volume 2 is on the way, btw. Stefano: > It's a great song, but my favorite Victorians track is "Oh What > a Night for Love". I wish all their tracks were reissued and > remastered on CD...they only released 7 songs. "Oh What A Night For Love" is out on CD too. See here: Ian Slater: > The original single (Liberty 55728) has an equally good, maybe > even better, track on the other side: "Monkey Stroll", but that > hasn't come out on CD yet so far as I know. Great group, lead > singer Gloria Hargis (aka Gloria Melbourne) - more about them > in Spectropop archives. Gloria also recorded as Vik E. Lee. Find more info here: Plus, the Victorians' version of "Climb Every Mountain" is contained on the CD "Phil's Spectre II: Another Wall Of Soundalikes". Find more info at these links: Here's a excerpt from the booklet: ----------------------------------------------------------------- Of the seven sides released in little over a year by the Victorians, any one of them could have passed for Bob B. Soxx & the Blue Jeans. The group's first 45 – 'What Makes Little Girls Cry' b/w a version of 'Climb Every Mountain' from The Sound Of Music – hovered just outside the Hot 100. Their producer, Marty Cooper, was also in the charts at the time as a member of the folksy Shacklefords. Marty Cooper: "Gloria Jean Hargis was a vocalist who I met through some friends when I was looking for someone to produce. I was very busy at the time with Lee Hazlewood, the Shacklefords and Bobby Day – just running around like a young fool. I put Gloria under contract and started recording her under various different names. I made a series of records with her, first as Vik E. Lee, then as the Victorians – my wife's name is Victoria. I also recorded her as Gloria Melbourne. We didn't use the same studio for all the records. I think 'Climb Every Mountain' was probably done at the big RCA Studios in Hollywood, which was great, absolutely wonderful. That repetitive riff over and over again building up to the big climax – that was really the Phil Spector/Jack Nitzsche idea. We were really going for that – it was purposely derivative. I just cannot remember who the arranger was on that track. It was either Perry Botkin or Jack Nitzsche. As far as the personnel is concerned, I do know that we used the big time Hollywood rhythm section, the same guys who played on the Bobby Day records I produced. The other girls singing on all of Gloria's records were the Blossoms – Darlene Love, Fanita James and Gloria Jones. The Blossoms were just absolutely brilliant and worked all over. They loved Gloria and thought she was a spectacular singer, which she was. She and I continued working together after the records. She did a series of commercials for me, for Olympia Beer, the 'phone company and several other things. Gloria is someone I still talk with frequently. She's still singing in church and is a very, very nice person." ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hey la, Mick Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 4 Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:53:39 +0100 From: Ken Silverwood Subject: Re: Shelby Flint Peter Lerner wrote: > ... Shelby Flint, another west coast angel. Who can tell us what > became of her? She sang the atmospheric songs in Disney's "The Rescuers" according to my daughter's video. Ken On The West Coast -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 5 Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 16:10:19 -0700 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: The Ventures Jack Russell: > ...I once played a gig in Wick, which is as far north in Scotland > as you can go without a boat, and in the local pub after the gig we > were introduced to a guy who, local legend had it, had been the > bass player with The Ventures. Does anyone know if it could have > been true ... Seems doubtful. Last I knew there was an excellent (official, I believe) Ventures website with a pretty complete history. gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 6 Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 04:59:59 EDT From: David Bell Subject: Memories of the 1962 Motown Revue photo book I wanted to bring this thread back into everyone's thoughts because Curtis Woodson has just emailed me to say that the ordering link is now working on his site: Those who wish to place an order for this excellent historic book can now do so. I'm hoping that the sale of his historical photos of the first ever Motown tour will be successful, as they are unique. The photos of the Vandellas, Supremes, Miracles, Singing Sammy Ward, Marv Johnson and the very young Marvelettes are simply excellent. I thoroughly recommend his work to you. Best wishes, David -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 7 Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 08:43:13 -0000 From: Joop Subject: "Keep A Knockin'" Country Paul wrote: > I don't remember if it was "Slippin' and Slidin'" or "Lucille" > by Little Richard which was about 1:20 in its original; some > judicious splicing stretched it out to about two minutes. Simon White: > You may be thinking of "Keep a Knockin'", which is spliced from > a short radio station recording... Indeed Simon, There were earlier versions of "Slippin' and slidin'" by Eddie Bo and Al Collins. The first was Al Collins's "I got the blues for you" from 1955. Joop greets -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 8 Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:00:47 +0100 From: Austin Powell Subject: Jeannie Thomas / Strand Records I have an LP on Strand by Jeannie Thomas. It very much looks like it is not "our" Jean Thomas. The Strand one, according to the liner notes, was born in Deep Creek, Virginia - her father was Thomas Asble, a sax player. This JT was also a past "Miss Virginia". BTW, Klaus Ogermann did the arrangements on the Strand LP which also credited Mastertone Studios in NY, along with all the technical details of the studio set-up. Austin P. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- SPECTROPOP features: End

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