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Spectropop - Digest Number 2044

               SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop!

There are 6 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Moon River, etc
           From: Country Paul 
      2. Re: Who played what on the Carpenters discs
           From: Steve Harvey 
      3. Re: Dark End Of The Street
           From: Peter Lerner 
      4. Re: The original "It's My Party"
           From: Gary Myers 
      5. Re: "Moon River"
           From: Gary Myers 
      6. Re: Carpenters
           From: Artie Wayne 

Message: 1 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 00:41:38 -0400 From: Country Paul Subject: Moon River, etc Margaret G. Still on Hogsnort Rupert: > A little research suggested they may be Australian or New > Zealanders. Any info on this group? Dave Monroe: > Taking the easy way out: >From the sound of the excerpt, a very nice folky groove somewhat transcending the novelty level. Thanks for the lead. (I'm spending way too much on music lately, but if any of our NZ friends have a cheap copy of the song - CD is fine - they wish to part with, please write me off-list.) Joop: > In the UK Danny Williams had a NR 1 hit with "Moon river" at the > end of 1961. Maybe Danny (sorry Andy) thought mistakenly he had > the hit in the UK. Let's not forget Jerry Butler's exceptional version of this song on Vee Jay, which was also a hit, and which I believe preceded Andy Williams. (Not sure on this - can anyone confirm or deny?) Norm D. Plume: > The recent postings about Link Wray coincided with an advertising > card I just found poked through my door for a local cab firm called > ....Link Way. I once, also, saw a courier firm called Quicksilver > Messenger Service. Any other examples of like this (intended or > otherwise)? Does Ben & Jerry's "Cherry Garcia" flavor of ice cream count? There was also a head shop in Hartford, CT called "Stiky Fingers" [sic], after the Stones LP. Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 08:58:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Re: Who played what on the Carpenters discs Frank Jastfelder wrote: > Steve, I don't want to be a know-it-all, but I guess you mean Joe > Osborn. Strange, I can't remember any reference of Karen playing > bass. Frank, You're absolutely right, it was Joe Osborn. Maybe I was thinking of Jimmy Olson from Superman? Anyway, there is mention of Karen playing bass on at least two cuts on the first lp. It might be mentioned on the repackaged Ticket To Ride, but not the original version, Offering. Richard confirmed that she did play bass on the first lp. With Osborn around it was kinda pointless for her to keep playing bass. Steve Harvey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 18:07:20 +0100 From: Peter Lerner Subject: Re: Dark End Of The Street My good friend Bill commented: > The first version (of "Dark End Of The Street") I heard ... was > Linda Ronstadt's, and it was my favorite for years. Percy Sledge's is the ultimate version for me. That man has a voice which can convey tragedy and pathos surpremely. Peter -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 4 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 12:23:15 -0700 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: The original "It's My Party" Mick Patrick: > I put together an article about the origins of the song "It's My > Party" for Sheila at Cha Cha Charming a while back, which you might > care to give the once over. Find it here: > Hi Mick, I enjoyed the story. Barbara English mentioned that Wally Gold wrote the song. Herb Weiner is also credited as a co-writer, and I'm wondering if anyone in here in is touch with him. I'm told that he is connected with a song that is part of my Wisc. research ("It Might Have Been" by Joe London), and I've been unsuccessful in my attempt to reach him through BMI. gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 5 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 11:51:23 -0700 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: "Moon River" Country Paul: > Let's not forget Jerry Butler's exceptional version of ("Moon > River") on Vee Jay, which was also a hit, and which I believe > preceded Andy Williams. (Not sure on this - can anyone confirm > or deny?) Yes, I already mentioned this in my response to the orig. post. Actually, Williams *never* had a chart single with the song. And, I saw him commenting on this on a TV talk show many yrs ago. He acknowledged the real hit, but couldn't think of Butler's name at the moment. gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 6 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 10:49:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: Carpenters How ya' doin'? I'm glad the Carpenters are getting their "SpectroProps". I was a fan of theirs from their first record. My partner, Kelli Ross, and I got "Hurting Each Other" [Geld/Udell] to Al Stanton, head of A+R at A+M. Al loved the idea [he cut an earlier version with Ruby and the Romantics] and passed it along to Jack Daugherty, who cut the number one record. When I moved to Hollywood and started with Warner Brothers music, I was determined to get more cuts by the Carpenters, but I was having trouble meeting Jack Daugherty in person. Then one day, while driving down La Brea, I saw Jack and Jerry Moss [the M in A+M] waiting in line at Pinks [the famous hot dog stand]. I recognized them from their pictures from Billboard, pulled over ...leaped out and introduced myself! They were both surprised and amused by my boldness...which led to both of them opening the A+M doors to me. As time went by, I became friendly with not only Jack, but with Richard Carpenter and John Bettis. We all would sit around and discuss music and play songs for each other. I felt honored when I'd be invited to one of their otherwise "closed" sessions. Although they created some of the best records of the era, they were never given the respect they deserved from their peers. I was sympathetic, when Richard and Karen dropped the "The" from their name to be considered hipper. I even got them to record Neil Young's "I Believe You", which wasn't a typical Carpenter song, to help with the new image. About a year later, Jerry Moss hired me to run A+M's publishing company, which gave me a chance to work and learn from one of my favorite acts. regards, Artie Wayne P.S. Allan Rinde just told me that he added a guest book to my website. I'd be honored if all my Spectropoppin' pals would sign it. the direct URL is -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop! End

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