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Spectropop - Digest Number 2022



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There are 13 messages in this issue.


Topics in this digest:

      1. Larry Weiss "Rhinestone Cowboy" is in musica
           From: Nick Archer 
      2. John Sebastian rules
           From: Artie Wayne 
      3. "Nancy Whiskey"
           From: Stew Epstein 
      4. New Motown remixes
           From: Artie Wayne 
      5. Re: New Motown remixes
           From: Steve Harvey 
      6. Re: John Sebastian rules
           From: Steve Harvey 
      7. Re: Jigsaw
           From: Joop 
      8. Re: John Sebastian rules
           From: C Ponti 
      9. Another Artie Wayne and Joey Paige song
           From: Martin Roberts 
     10. The Zombies and Denny Laine
           From: David Coyle 
     11. Re: New Motown remixes
           From: Doug Carey 
     12. Spector-Greenwich-Barry
           From: Monophonius 
     13. Shirelles Singles Discography
           From: Ed 


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Message: 1 Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2005 14:40:17 -0000 From: Nick Archer Subject: Larry Weiss "Rhinestone Cowboy" is in musica I've played "Rhinestone Cowboy" by Larry Weiss to musica. The label says: Album - Black & Blue Suite Words and Music by Larry Weiss Produced by Larry Weiss Executive Producer Raymond Wetzler 20th Century Records Nick Archer Check out Nashville's classic pop and soft rock station SM95 streaming online at http://www.live365.com/stations/nikarcher -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 06:38:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Artie Wayne Subject: John Sebastian rules Has anybody noticed that were in the middle of a John Sebastian revival? I'm not talking about his music being spotlighted on radio... I'm refering to the four national commercials, currently running, that are using his songs, "Do you Beleive in Magic", "Did You Ever Have to Make Up Your Mind", "Welcome Back" and "What a Day for a Daydream". They are selling clothing, soft drinks, insurance, and snack food cakes...and everytime I hear a spot I have to smile. There is such a dearth of songs you can sing along to on radio and tv, Johns songs are a welcome relief. I can't help but wonder if all of this is a coincidence or a carefully orchestrated campaign by an aggressive music publisher. I did notice a common connection that each song has...each title is also the first line...which makes it easily recognizable. Regards, Artie Wayne http://artiewayne.com -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 3 Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2005 12:11:33 -0000 From: Stew Epstein Subject: "Nancy Whiskey" I know this is asking A LOT, but I will be making a master CD of about 4 songs, and one of them is the old drinking song called "Nancy Whiskey" which is the song I sing the best...I need help...Would anyone have any idea of who I should contact to get permission to record this?... Thanks for any suggestions you can offer. Please reply off-list. Stew Epstein -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 4 Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 09:00:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Artie Wayne Subject: New Motown remixes My friend, Alan O'Day, sent me URL to the new remixes of Motown classics "created" by current Hip-Hop producers http://motownremixed.com/ Although there were a few interesting moments...it's a futile attempt to improve upon musical history. As long as i've been in the music industry I've admired, enjoyed and studied the sucess of Motown records. When I brought Nick Ashford and Valarie Simpson to Eddie Holland in 1967, I developed a strong relationship with many of the companys writers and producers. I was also privy to many secrets of their phenomenal sucess. I used to sit [at different times] with Norman Whitfield, Hal Davis, Mel Larson, Jerry Marcellino, Freddie Perren, Bob Crewe and Michael Masser and listen to what sounded like instant smash hits, including early mixes of " Touch me in the Morning", " Papa Was a Rolling Stone", and "Can't Take my Eyes Off of You". All of which were initially turned down by quality control! The endless remixing and meticulous mastering was the most important and the most frustrating part of the recording process. I remember sitting with Iris Gordy, who was head of quality control and listening to dozens of mixes of ten totally different tracks of Stevie Wonders production of "Let's get Serious" by Jermaine Jackson. I was intrigued by some of the "radical" mixes and amazed by the subtlety of others. I asked Iris if this many versions were unusual? she laughed and said, "Sometimes there are hundreds!" With so much care and respect Berry Gordy had for the music, it's a shame that the new owners of the catalog let someone come in and f**k with the music! regards, Artie Wayne http://artiewayne.com -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 5 Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 09:51:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Re: New Motown remixes Artie Wayne wrote: > With so much care and respect Berry Gordy had for the music, it's a > shame that the new owners of the catalog let someone come in and > f**k with the music! I'll second that. It seems too many of today's "artists" are all too willing to ride on the coattails of previous generations and then take credit. Sampling is just a nicer way of saying stealing. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 6 Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 10:13:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Re: John Sebastian rules Artie Wayne wrote: > Has anybody noticed that were in the middle of a John Sebastian > revival? I'm not talking about his music being spotlighted on > radio...I'm refering to the four national commercials, currently > running, that are using his songs I suspect part of the reason might be John's health. He recently canceled his appearances until next year. Maybe he is concerned about his voice fading. When I saw him three years ago he was very hoarse. I would pay just to see him play instrumentally. Let somebody else sing (like Levon does with daughter fronting his band or Pete Best using a lead singer). Some of those tunes are on their second go round as commercials. A tribute to the solid melodies of Mr. John B. Interesting to note that Kohl's originally used the Spoon's Magic then went to an updated, inferior, version for their commercials. As my childhood idol Mr. Sebastian certainly rules. Father Sebastian does too if your name is Lenny Welch. Steve Harvey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 7 Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2005 16:25:50 -0000 From: Joop Subject: Re: Jigsaw I own the Jigsaw album "I've seen the film, I've read the book" (BASF label) from 1974, which contains the original version of "Who do you think you are" (composers Des Dyer/ Clive Scott). It's already been said that there were covers in the same year by Candlewick Green in the UK and by Bo Donaldson & the Heywoods in the US. And I own the 1975 album "Jigsaw" on US label Chelsea (CHL 509), which is a sort of best of from two UK albums from 1974 and 1975: "I've seen the film, I've read the book" and "Sky high". Here's a good link with a story told by Des: http://www.broadgategnome.co.uk/bands-j.htm And here's another link: http://www.rexbrough.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/jigsaw.html -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 8 Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2005 16:37:01 -0000 From: C Ponti Subject: Re: John Sebastian rules Artie Wayne wrote: > Has anybody noticed that were in the middle of a John Sebastian > revival? I'm not talking about his music being spotlighted on > radio...I'm refering to the four national commercials, currently > running, that are using his songs Artie, As a bit of an insider on this, I know it is not the work of an "aggressive" publisher. As you may know, as much as publishers may sometimes push,it's the ad guys and sponsors who need to feel they were the geniuses who came up with an idea or campaign. Publishers, for the most part, lie there like a lox and service whatever comes along and this was never truer than with the Spoonful catalogue. It is a just a moment when this music seems universal for commercial use. The Rascals had a similar moment a few years back. Some music dates better than other music. C Ponti -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 9 Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 19:10:06 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Another Artie Wayne and Joey Paige song I've just spotted another Artie Wayne composition. "The Merry Go- Round Is Slowing You Down" written with Ed Silvers, arranged by Gene Page and sung by Joey Paige on Philips 40386. My 45 is not in the best of condition but if Artie has a story for us (!) and there's room I'll play it to musica. Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 10 Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 12:01:46 -0700 (PDT) From: David Coyle Subject: The Zombies and Denny Laine Well, I saw the Zombies yesterday. Denny Laine had larygnitis, but made a surpreme effort during his set. He played a set mostly comprised of hits and album tracks from his Wings days, plus "Say You Don't Mind" and the Moody Blues "Go Now," on which you could almost forget he was having throat problems. The Zombies were phenomenal! They opened with "I Love You" and "Sticks And Stones" from the first album, one song from their "Out Of The Shadows" album, and a mini-Argent set of "Keep On Rolling" and "Hold Your Head Up." Other songs included breathtaking renditions of "A Rose For Emily" and "Misty Roses," a pounding version of "Indication" (my favorite), "Time Of The Season," "Tell Her No," "She's Not There," and encores of "God Gave Rock And Roll To You" and "Summertime." Colin's voice is nearly unchanged from the Zombies days and Rod can play keyboards like nobody's business. They stayed an hour and a half for autographs and I got my photo taken with the guys. Just thought you'd all like to know. By the way, Colin didn't perform "Say You Don't Mind," and I doubt Denny Laine (who didn't stay for meet and greets) would have had the voice for a duet! David -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 11 Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 14:47:18 -0700 From: Doug Carey Subject: Re: New Motown remixes Sorry guys, but I have to completely disagree with you regarding the Motown Remixes. I found the remixes to be artfully done and they are refreshing reinterpretations of the original works, particularly "Let's Get It On." I definitely have a hard time when new artists basically cop the entire harmonic and melodic structure of a tune, change lyrics and come off as if they've created something new (Lopez, P. Diddy), but I feel the Motown remixes are a different animal altogether. We have the original works. These remixes are not desecrating hallowed ground. I feel they pay homage to the originals while moving forward. I guess the musical affect is the bottom line. How one is affected by the music is always going to be subjective. Take a breath, go back and listen again with open ears. Doug -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 12 Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2005 21:49:21 -0000 From: Monophonius Subject: Spector-Greenwich-Barry Does anyone have demos/acetates/info on any of the following that are listed in the BMI catalog as published Spector/Greenwich/Barry songs. I bet they are all doozeys! "Don't Take Your Love From Me" "Gonna Have A Party Tonight" "He Loves Me I Can Tell" "I Want You To Be My Boyfriend" "Rugby Scrum Song" Thanks -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 13 Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2005 22:01:02 -0000 From: Ed Subject: Shirelles Singles Discography I came across this link when searching for Shirelles info on Google. I don't know how complete the discography is, but it seems pretty comprehensive, especially since it includes non-Scepter releases and Shirley Alston solo sides: http://www9.ocn.ne.jp/~pelican/groups/data/shirells.html -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop! End

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