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Spectropop - Digest Number 2014



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There are 9 messages in this issue.


Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: John Carter and Ken Lewis
           From: Lyn Nuttall 
      2. Re: John Carter and Ken Lewis
           From: Jack Russell 
      3. Re: John Carter and Ken Lewis
           From: Joe Foster 
      4. "Bend Me, Shape Me" by the Models
           From: Nick Archer 
      5. Re: Jackie, starring in "The Queen"
           From: Richard Havers 
      6. Re: John Carter and Ken Lewis
           From: Norm D Plume 
      7. Re: John Carter & Ken Lewis
           From: Joop 
      8. Re: Jackie, starring in "The Queen"
           From: Karl Ikola 
      9. Re: John Carter and Ken Lewis
           From: Joop 


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Message: 1 Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 11:03:42 -0000 From: Lyn Nuttall Subject: Re: John Carter and Ken Lewis Rob Pingel wrote: > Who are these gentlemen? I'm about to crib from my own webpage that covers these chaps, among others, but you can't go past Hiroshi Asada's John Carter Song List at http://www.ne.jp/asahi/salaryman/asada/carter.htm (Continue browsing his whole site: in the course of examining the career of the ubiquitous Tony Burrows, he covers a number of other British songwriters of the era. There's even a family tree.) In the meantime (and no doubt with numerous omissions): John Carter (born John Shakespeare) and Ken Lewis (born Kenneth James Hawker), longtime partners in songwriting and record-making since the end of the 50s. With Perry Ford, they recorded as The Ivy League from 1965. Later, Carter and Lewis were involved, for example, in The Flowerpot Men (Let's Go To San Francisco), White Plains (My Baby Loves Lovin') and First Class (Beach Baby). John Carter sang on Winchester Cathedral, by Geoff Stephens's New Vaudeville. Some songs by John Carter (the tip of the iceberg, I guess): John Carter & Ken Lewis: Funny How Love Can Be (Ivy League 1965) Let's Go To San Francisco (Flowerpot Men, 1967) Sunday For Tea (Peter & Gordon, 1967) Little Bit O' Soul (Music Explosion, 1967). John Carter: Beach Baby (First Class, 1974) John Carter & Geoff Stephens: Semi-detached Suburban Mr Jones (Manfred Mann, 1966) My Sentimental Friend (Herman's Hermits, 1969). Knock Knock Who's There? (Mary Hopkin/Liv Maessen, 1970) (See my http://www.poparchives.com.au/feature.php?id=989) John Carter, Ken Lewis & Perry Ford: Tossing And Turning (Ivy League, 1965) John Carter & Gillian Shakespeare Dreams Are Ten A Penny (Kincade, 1973) In 2003 RPM Records put out a John Carter retrospective, Measure For Measure: The John Carter Anthology 1961-1977. To most pop music fans of the day, I suppose these guys were unsung heroes, along with the likes of Roger Cook, Roger Greenaway, Les Reed, Tony Macaulay, Barry Mason, Peter Callander, Mitch Murray, Graham Gouldman, Ken Howard, Alan Blaikley... Their songs were everywhere, but not necessarily their names, unless you count the small print under the song titles on the record labels. Hope I got all this right, Lyn -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 19:00:34 +0100 From: Jack Russell Subject: Re: John Carter and Ken Lewis Michael, > So in short, John Carter is doing fine and still making/writing > music and enjoying it. (He also told me he didn't think much of > that recent hit record in England that sampled "My World Fell > Down," I forget who that was, but that he sure didn't mind the > royalties. :>) Thanks Michael, Carter-Lewis were a product of their time and very talented for the market that existed then. I didn't know John, having met him only once, but I am glad he is OK. Cheers, Jack -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 20:14:31 +0100 From: Joe Foster Subject: Re: John Carter and Ken Lewis Jack Russell: > Does anyone know what became of John Carter and Ken Lewis? I worked > with The Ivy League after John Carter had been replaced by Tony > Burrows. Perry Ford was still in charge. He died some years ago. Ken > Lewis was a really nice bloke but was diabetic and not at all well, > even then in 1966. So where are they now if they survived. And if > they didn't, when did they pass on. Sadly Perry Ford was not a nice > man but since he is dead we won't go there. **Hi Jack, Well, we've been dealing with John here at Rev-Ola for a while....write to me offlist and I'll put him in contact with you.... best, Joe -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 4 Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 01:57:36 -0000 From: Nick Archer Subject: "Bend Me, Shape Me" by the Models Bend Me, Shape Me by the Models is in musica, the second recording of the Larry Weiss song. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica Nick Archer Franklin, TN -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 5 Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 06:40:12 +0100 From: Richard Havers Subject: Re: Jackie, starring in "The Queen" Phil X Milstein wrote: > Another Jackie song, one in which the character appears in the lyric > but not the title, is the Rip Chords' 1963 raver "The Queen." ... > Interestingly, the name "Jackie" never appears again after the > song's first word, although certainly her regal attitude exerts its > haughty presence throughout. I hope it isn't true, but when the > song came my way it was accompanied by a rumor that the reference > was to de lovely Miss DeShannon; perhaps Mr. Lerner or Mr. George > know more about that. Karl Ikola wrote: > Hi Phil: I rang Mr. Bringas himself to get the scoop on "The Queen", > and he said it's Melcher on lead vocals, and to the best of his > knowledge, the "Jackie" referenced in the song was in fact Jackie > DeShannon. KI I asked Bruce Johnston what he knew about this...... It's about Jackie De Shannon who Terry Melcher had been seeing! Richard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 6 Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 02:07:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Norm D Plume Subject: Re: John Carter and Ken Lewis Thanks to Lyn, Michael and others for the info. on their careers and achievements, and updates on their whereabouts. They really are unsung heroes, and their contribution to 60's pop has never fully been acknowledged, IMO. Had they been American (I say controversially) I'm sure the whole world would know about them, and minute details of their writing and recording lives would pepper these pages. I wonder if some kind S'Popper would be prepared to put a contribution together for the "Spectropop Presents 60s record Producers and Songwriters" section? Do you think there's enough interest to merit this? Norm D. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 7 Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:57:12 -0000 From: Joop Subject: Re: John Carter & Ken Lewis Michael wrote: > So in short, John Carter is doing fine and still making/writing > music and enjoying it. (He also told me he didn't think much of > that recent hit record in England that sampled "My World Fell > Down," I forget who that was, but that he sure didn't mind the > royalties. :>) Michael, The Prodigy has recently sampled "My world fell down" in the track "Shoot down" from their "Always Outnumbered, Never Outgunned" CD. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 8 Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 02:45:41 -0700 From: Karl Ikola Subject: Re: Jackie, starring in "The Queen" Richard Havers wrote: > I asked Bruce Johnston what he knew about this... It's about Jackie > DeShannon who Terry Melcher had been seeing! That's what Bringas said, though I'm glad someone else can confirm it, I didn't want to spread any false rumours. KI -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 9 Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:49:25 -0000 From: Joop Subject: Re: John Carter and Ken Lewis Rob Pingel on Carter & Lewis: > Who are these gentlemen? In 1998 the Westside label released a John Carter CD of the Denmark Street demo's 1963-1967): http://tinyurl.com/93f52 Here is a great review of that CD on our own Spectropop-site: http://www.spectropop.com/archive/digest/m97.html And earlier this year Rev-Ola released the CD: "A Rose By Any Other Name". See a review: http://www.cherryred.co.uk/revola/artists/johncartercrrev84.htm -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop! End

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