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Spectropop - Digest Number 1980



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There are 12 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. "Susan" & the Cryan' Shames
           From: Clark Besch 
      2. Re: two Austin Roberts rarities
           From: Austin Roberts 
      3. "Lavender Popcorn" John Kongos
           From: Jack Russell 
      4. Re: "Midnight Confessions"
           From: Austin Roberts 
      5. Re: This Time Tomorrow Is Another Day
           From: Phil X Milstein 
      6. Re: Gardena Records
           From: Gary Myers 
      7. Re: Chicago Bands
           From: Gary Myers 
      8. Rosenblatt & Millrose
           From: Joop 
      9. Re: "Susan"
           From: Michael Thom 
     10. BoxTops at my local Tastefest?
           From: Rob 
     11. Jacki Bond versus the Chosen Few
           From: Mick Patrick 
     12. Re: Chicago Bands
           From: Billy G Spradlin 


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Message: 1 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 05:32:19 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: "Susan" & the Cryan' Shames S.J. Dibai: > Is it true that WLS only played an edit of "Susan" that didn't have > the weird musique concrete in the middle? Let's not forget The > Cryan' Shames while we're at it. A lot of bands tried to emulate > the experimentations of "Pet Sounds" and "Revolver," but the > Shames' "A Scratch In The Sky" is an album that did so with > surprisingly tasty results. SJ, YES, let's NOT forget the Cryan' Shames! Thanks for reminding me! :) In answer to your "Susan" question, no WLS did not play the edited 45 version. They played the whole song fromthe very beginning of its' hit status to end. Clark PS. Anyone heard from our Alan Gordon? Two days ago I saw that his home area was having the wildfires in Arizona. I emailed, but have not received a reply. Anyone? Hope you're ok, Alan (That Alan). -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:23:35 EDT From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: two Austin Roberts rarities Bob Rashkow: > Aaarrghhh!! There you are again in my 45s collection, Austin > Roberts! You and Robert John sang "Haunted" by Tuesday on Buddah? I > wish I did know what the B-side is, I have a DJ copy of this 1975 > recording, with the same song on both sides. It's a great song! I > picked up a copy at a rummage sale at Lake Forest College when I > was a student there, and held on to it because it really grew on > me. I had no idea! Hey Bobster, I honestly don't remember the B side to Haunted, though there must've been one. You may have gotten a DJ version;some labels sent out only one song so jockeys couldn't flip them. If I talk to Robert John anytime soon, I'll ask him if he remembers, though, I think his memory is as bad as mine. Best, Austin R. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:54:03 -0000 From: Jack Russell Subject: "Lavender Popcorn" John Kongos I had as big a shock as anyone when Sanctuary released the "Lavender Popcorn" compilation album by John Kongos in 2003. I co-wrote Linda Loves Linda with John Kongos and was a member of both Floribunda Rose and Scrugg. My name is Jack Russell. John was South African and came back to SA in spring of '67. He saw my band working in a Jo'burg nightclub and asked us if we would cut an album of demo material with him. As experienced session musicians we agreed. The lead guitarist was Pete Clifford (who is still working in SA with a band called the Bats) I played bass guitar and sang; our drummer was Nicholas "Doc" Doktor. We were known as 004. After we cut the album John suggested that instead of paying us our agreed fees he would pay for our fares back to London instead. We arrived back in the UK in June 1967 and called the band Floribunda Rose. It was Flower Power Time!! We went straight into Pye #1 studio and cut Linda Loves Linda and One Way street. Al the voices on that track are John and me. In fact John and I either duetted or I sang harmony to his lead on every track we ever cut. Maurice King managed the band. Maurice handled the Walker Bothers, the Ivy League, the Rocking Berries and others. Our A&R man at Pye was John Schroeder. A friend of John's also joined the band in SA, his name was Chris Demetriou, also known as Chris Dee. He played a Farfisa organ, later a Hammond. Pete Clifford had been Dusty Springfield's guitarist for some years before breaking that bond and taking a band to SA in 1965. That band included me and two other guys, Brian Gibson and Pete Stember. We dropped the Floribunda Rose name after the first release because it did nothing. We got a lot of airplays but no smell of a chart position. I named the band Scrugg after Earl Scruggs. Pete Clifford couldn't work with JK and Dok left in the December of 1969 to be replaced by Henry Spinetti. We became a four piece. Henry has become famous in his own right having worked with Clapton, Tina Turner, Cliff Richard, Bill Wyman etc etc as well as having been the drummer on one of the worlds most played records "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty. Henry also was the drummer who played at George Harrison's memorial "Concert for George" along with Jim Keltner and Ringo Starr. That gig came as a result of Henry's ongoing contact with Eric Clapton who arranged the concert. I played on all the Scrugg tracks and the Floribunda Rose tracks but left the band in 1969. John became solo after that split and very studio orientated. Despite his huge talent he never really got over the fear of playing live. His songwriting ability may still be largely hidden by his reclusive attitude and paranoia. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:13:47 EDT From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: "Midnight Confessions" Ed: > Although Sloan/Barri wrote many Grass Roots songs (and were the > Grass Roots for a while) I'm sure Midnight Confessions wasn't > written by them and also was a big hit in spring/summer 68', as > memory serves me. Right you are Ed. Lou Josie wrote it and it was out spring and summer of 1968. I was on my fist radio, tv promotion tour and Midnight was all over the place. Best, Austin Roberts -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:18:51 -0800 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: This Time Tomorrow Is Another Day Mick Patrick wrote: > Great songwriting team, Rosenblatt and Milrose - "Tomorrow Is > Another Day", anyone? Any questions? Did they write any songs that didn't have the word "Tomorrow" in the title? --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 03:43:24 -0700 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: Gardena Records Karl Ikola: > Gardena Records was based in Gardena, Calif. Tony & Joe were also on Gardena. I assume this is that same T&J (Saraceno) that had "The Freeze" in '58. None of the other names on the discog meant anything to me. > Gardena had a big card/gambling house before they had proliferated > elsewhere in the state. Yes, if you're talking about the place I'm thinking of, Danny Flores (Champs) was working there around that time. I sat in with him many times and did the gig once or twice. That place is now the Hustler, owned by the magazine guy. gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 03:46:41 -0700 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: Chicago Bands S.J. Dibai: > Is it true that WLS only played an edit of "Susan" that didn't have > the weird musique concrete in the middle? I don't think I ever heard that section on *any* station at the time the record was hit. gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:41:26 -0000 From: Joop Subject: Rosenblatt & Millrose Mick Patrick wrote: > Great songwriting team, Rosenblatt and Milrose - "Tomorrow Is > Another Day", anyone? Any questions? Phil M: > Did they write any songs that didn't have the word "Tomorrow" in > the title? Yes Phil, They wrote "Smokey mountain boy" for Elvis in 1964 and in 1965 they wrote "Startin' tonight" for him. Joop greets -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:07:36 -0500 From: Michael Thom Subject: Re: "Susan" Clark Besch: > In answer to your "Susan" question, no WLS did not play the edited > 45 version. They played the whole song fromthe very beginning of > its hit status to end. I expect Clark knows this, but Columbia did issue a special promotional 45 of "Susan" with the middle part edited out. I tracked down a copy several years ago. It's an awkward edit, which may explain why stations didn't play the edited version. Or maybe it's just because the complete version is so good! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:04:07 -0000 From: Rob Subject: BoxTops at my local Tastefest? BoxTops at my local Tastefest?...on July 4th...so apparently they've re-formed and are touring...I'm wondering if I should get excited... any reviews of any recent shows? Thanks ~ Rob -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 23:35:34 +0100 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Jacki Bond versus the Chosen Few Phil Milstein: > *Yet the Chosen Few's "Why Can't I Love Her," played recently to > musica by Jeff Lemlich, is my Musica Record of the Year so far. A > monstrous record! Thanks, Jeff. Jeff Lemlich: > You're welcome, Phil. Now does anyone have the Jacki Bond version > of this song they can share? You're in luck, boys. I don't have the record, but my pal Clunkie does, and he's the sharing type. Just the other day sent me a CDR* containing the track. I've taken the liberty of posting it to musica: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/ Details are: Jacki Bond "Why Can't I Love Him" (UK Strike JH 320, 1966), written by Lori Burton and Pam Sawyer. The other side of the 45, "He Say", can be found on the CD "The Best Of Strike Records" (RPM 221). According to Kieron Tyler's essay in the booklet, Jacki was the secretary at Strike and lived in Golders Green. Any questions? Hey la, Mick Patrick * Also on Clunkie's CDR: half a dozen tracks by the Playboy Club Bunnies. Sheesh, y'ain't lived until you've heard 'em do "Call Me"! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:45:10 -0000 From: Billy G Spradlin Subject: Re: Chicago Bands Previously: > Is it true that WLS only played an edit of "Susan" that didn't have > the weird musique concrete in the middle? The edited version is on one of Dick Bartley's "On the Radio" comps from Varese Sarabande. Its a good edit, great for dancing. > "I Confess" is the ultimate proof of how supportive radio was of > local acts in those days--#2 on WLS??? No offense to our Chicago > members, but that's one of those records that has me in tears of > laughter by the time it's over. I love it dearly, though. I like > "Love You So Much" a lot, too. Some of their later easy listening > stuff is also good, but the problem with this band was that they > were sort of hit-or-miss no matter what they did "I Confess" is one of those records that shouldnt work but does! I read they took two songs and combined them together. I also love that timpani they tossed in for "dramatic effect". It was proably sitting in the back of the studio and someone in the band had a brainstorm to use it. I would love to hear a modern girl group like It's My Party (are they still together?) cover it. But like the Ides of March (another great Chi-town band!) "You Wouldnt Listen" the youthful performance forgives any amaturish songwriting faults. I have adored "Love You So Much" since I found it at a Oklahoma pawn shop in the early 80's. Great use of Vara-Speed! It was the record that got me interested in the NC6. Billy G. http://listen.to/jangleradio -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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