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There are 17 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Keith's "I Can't Go Wrong"
           From: S.J. Dibai 
      2. Re: Teardrops explode
           From: Phil X Milstein 
      3. Los Caireles
           From: Christopher Bentley 
      4. Jerry Moss
           From: Mike Rashkow 
      5. Raveonettes
           From: Country Paul 
      6. Re: "The Way Of Love"
           From: Mark Maldwyn 
      7. Re: new Monkees book
           From: Clark Besch 
      8. Re: Why "When"?
           From: Peter Lerner 
      9. Whipped Cream and other Giacomoli
           From: Clark Besch 
     10. Re: "Midnight Sun"
           From: Eddy 
     11. Re: welcome Big Al
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     12. Re:  Soul radio
           From: Frank M 
     13. Re: Mike Curb and Elvis
           From: Clark Besch 
     14. Poor Boys/Over the Hill and Down in the Valley
           From: Bob 
     15. Teardrops - Trefzger - Saxony
           From: Rex Strother 
     16. J C Livingstone
           From: David Walker 
     17. 60sgaragebands.com June Updates
           From: Mike Dugo 


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Message: 1 Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 20:36:48 -0000 From: S.J. Dibai Subject: Keith's "I Can't Go Wrong" Greetings, fellow S'Poppers. I'm working on a Philadelphia music project, so I'll be asking you all some Philly questions in the next few weeks. To start off: It looks like Keith's "I Can't Go Wrong" is a favorite of slightly adventurous oldies deejays these days, but did it become a hit of any kind in the '60s? A regional success, perhaps? I wonder also about the release info. The liner notes to Keith's "Ain't Gonna Lie" CD claim this track was issued as the B-side of "Tell Me To My Face," while TOP POP SINGLES 1955-1999 lists "Pretty Little Shy One" instead. I know the latter sometimes misses alternate B-sides, so is this one of those cases? Also, someone posted a message on Keith's website claiming to have found a promo single of "There's Always Tomorrow" with "I Can't Go Wrong" on the B-side--a single that is not mentioned at all in the "Ain't Gonna Lie" CD liners. Any info? Said fan suspected that the mono single version of "Wrong" had some parts that were mixed out of the stereo version, but Keith himself wasn't sure either way. Can any of you say for sure? And if there is indeed a difference, which version is on the compilation "Yo! Philadelphia Look What I Found"? I have a stereo mix on the "Ain't" CD. Thanks, S.J. Dibai -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 12:35:35 -0800 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: Teardrops explode John Black wrote: > There's a great CD of the Teardrops' output for sale online. > Highly recommended. The 'online' John refers to would be the website of Saxony Records, at http://www.saxonyrecordcompany.com . Last I checked Paul Trefzger, the power behind the Teardrops and Saxony thrones, was expecting arrival of a revised version of the CD any day now. In fact, it's probably in by now, and I believe he may have been doing some other new CDs at the same time, as well. Saxony's website is a bit slow to update, so I suggest writing Paul directly, at the e-m link provided at the site. Dig, --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 16:13:29 -0000 From: Christopher Bentley Subject: Los Caireles Dear All @ 'Spectropop', Just the other day I happened to be in a nearby town that I don't really have much call to visit too often. So, I thought I'd make the most of being there by indulging in my favourite pastime of visiting the charity shops there to see what bargain vinyl I could pick up. One of the items I encountered was an EP by a Spanish group by the name of Los Caireles, featuring the tracks Maruxina Mia, Donde Esta Mi Sonrisa (Where Is My Smile), Que Le Pasa Al Mundo and Vuelvo A Castilla, on the Berta label (No. F.M. 68 - 118). I had no idea what it'd sound like but I thought it'd be fun to try it out for the 'princely' sum of 29p! After all, I have had a pleasant surprise in the past with Los Diablos' Un Rayo De Sol, the flip, Una Manana being an especial revelation - a record I picked up for a basically nominal amount at a local village fete. I wasn't disappointed, since the second and fourth of those tracks were seriously funky (in a James Brown sort of vein) and eminently danceable. Performing searches on the Web all I seem to come up with are a couple of offers of the said record, one at 1.00 and another at EUR1.00 and I'm wondering if anybody out there in 'Spectropop-Land' would know any more about this group and even who they were. For the purposes of illustration,I have uploaded images of both the front and rear covers of the Los Caireles E.P. Thanking you in anticipation. Yours, Chris Bentley. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 21:08:41 EDT From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Jerry Moss Maybe I missed it--that must be the fact--because it seems impossible that there hasn't been at least one post about the fact that Jerry Moss--co founder of A&M Records--bred and owns the winner of this year's Kentucky Derby. In case it has been overlooked, the horse, "Giacomo", who is named for Sting's son, accomplished that pinnacle of Thoughrobred racing two weeks ago, but finished 3rd in todays' Preakness. NBC had a short interview with Moss during which he mentioned that he is re-releasing Whipped Cream, the record that broke that label open and changed the look of album covers forever. I suggest that PhilX make that cover a feature. Interestingly, Moss keeps in touch with the girl who modeled that cover-- "Delores" and said she lives in Seattle. I'll be leaving for Seattle in the AM. Di la, Rashkovsky -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 01:03:22 -0400 From: Country Paul Subject: Raveonettes I'm hearing 20-to-30-second samples on their website, http://www.raveonettes.com Is this album as good as it sounds?!? Wow.... Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 18:05:37 -0000 From: Mark Maldwyn Subject: Re: "The Way Of Love" Gary Myers wrote: > I've always wondered why neither Kirby's or Cher's didn't > make a simple lyric change to avoid the gay implication. > The whole song sounds like a woman giving advice to > another woman ("when you meet a boy," etc.), but ends with > "what will you do when he sets you free, the way that *YOU* > said goodbye to me." Andrea Ogarrio: > No lyric change needed. It seems to me that the song is sung > from the point of view of a mother to a daughter who has left > the nest. Apart from being one of the most popular singers in the UK and a gay icon, Kathy Kirby became a gay role model when she came out to the UK press in the early 70s - this was front page news at the time. Perhaps this had an early influence on her interpretation of "The Way of Love"? Mark M -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 05:23:00 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Re: new Monkees book Andrew Sandoval wrote: > Hello Spectropop people, Andrew Sandoval here. Fifteen years > in the making, my book on The Monkees will finally be available > in the U.S. on July 5 (and a bit sooner in the UK). It covers > the group's day-by-day activities from 1965 to 1970, including > breakdowns of all their recording sessions with musician listings, > plus my interviews with Neil Diamond, Neil Sedaka, Boyce & Hart, > all four Monkees and many more. Andrew, this books sounds great to me!! I had the good fortune of helping a little with a similar book on Jeff beck day by day done by my friend Doug Hinman. He also co-wrote a similar day by day book on the Kinks. While people are waiting for Andrew's book and want to see what these books can be like, check these two books out at http://www.rocknrollresearchpress.com/ Please keep us updated on your book! Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 08:32:16 +0100 From: Peter Lerner Subject: Re: Why "When"? Phil asked: > Why did Jackie DeShannon name her song "When You Walk > In The Room", instead of "Everytime That You Walk In > The Room"? The lyrics include the latter phrasing > approximately half a dozen times (depending on version), > while the title phrasing doesn't appear even once. I think > maybe she was trying to pull a fast one on us! Good question, Phil, and I would suspect that she felt that ETTYWITR was just too long for people to remember, or for Billboard to find space for in their Hot 100. However this consideration didn't trouble one Lolita Jackson, who put "Every Time You Walk In The Room" into the country music charts in March 1989 (Oak 1069). This is one of the very few versions of Jackie's song that I have never heard, and if any Spectropopper can either locate or record a copy for me, then please contact me off-S'pop and I'll be very grateful. Peter -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 13:20:37 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Whipped Cream and other Giacomoli Hi, did anyone else see the Preakness "pre-race" stuff saturday? I hadn't realized that the Kentucky Derby's winner, "Giacomo", was owned by former co-owner of A&M records, Jerry Moss! It was really pretty funny to see Bob Costas interviewing Mr. Moss. They were talking about the race and out Costas comes with a framed copy of Herb Alpert's "Whipped Cream & Other Delights" and asks Moss if he will have Herb sign it the next time he sees him, commenting that it is his own 40 year old record! However, Bob more importantly wanted to know "where's the girl now" (referring to the cover)? Jerry responded that last he knew she was in Seattle. Bob commented that the cover was rather provocative back then (obviously, Bob had as much fun ogling that cover as the rest of us did). Another surprising moment of music entwined with sports! Now, if only Paul Mauriat or Nancy Sinatra will start racing horses, Bob can pull those LPs out too! Speaking of other delights, I'm looking for 3 songs in stereo only and wondering if anyone has these in stereo in their collection? They are: Someone To Love You by Jimmy & The Velvets This Time The Dream's On Me by Anthony Newley Image, Pts. 1 & 2 by Hank Levine Orchestra If you do, please contact me offlist. Thanks! Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 10:07:49 +0200 From: Eddy Subject: Re: "Midnight Sun" Gary Myers: > "Midnight Sun" is a great song, and probably the only one > to use "aurora borealis" in a rhyme. Does Carole King's Chalice Borealis count ? Eddy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 20:20:49 -0800 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: welcome Big Al Al Pavlow wrote: > ... This info comes from a book I'm about to publish called > "Pro-Files" (discogs of producers, writers, etc.). Anyone > interested in more info and hype re: this book, feel free to > e-mail me for details. Welcome, Al, and I hope we can count on hearing your "voice" on at least a SEMI-regular basis. I know you've got a terrific reputation as a music collector and archivist, and so trust that the research for your book will be virtually impeccable, but I think we'd ALL like to hear a bit more about it, for instance the book's range and depth of coverage, whether it includes illustrations (and if so of what type), how many pages it runs, how much $ it'll sell for, etc. Best wishes, --Phil Milstein -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 01:55:46 +0100 From: Frank M Subject: Re: Soul radio Simon White: > "But let me recommend these instead: > Paddy Grady, at http://northernsoulradio.co.uk > On a loop so you can listen when you like. > Northern Soul Radio with Frank Murphy, Saturday afternoon > at 2:30pm (BST) http://www.radiomagnetic.com Thank you Simon for the mention. You can listen anytime to an archived show by heading for www.radiomagnetic.com clicking on ARCHIVES then REFLECTIONS and then selecting one of the 22 shows available. Frank M -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 14:53:37 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Re: Mike Curb and Elvis Country Paul wrote: > I have Sam Fletcher's "Tall Hope" on RCA ... but I know > nothing else about him ... Gary Myers: > Around '67. when we (Portraits) were signed to Mike Curb, > our producer, Clancy Grass, had some involvement with a > Fletcher release. My recollection is that Clancy made some > reference to Fletcher having a drug problem that seriously > affected his career. Gary, I'm kinda surprised tha Mike Curb did not have a bigger impact on the music industry in 67 and 68. When he was on Bandstand to promote his new group the Clingers, it was hard to tell who he was promoting--the girls or himself! Dick Clark kept saying that Curb was going to be the biggest music businessman in the industry. Basically it seemed like Clark was grooming him as the "new Dick Clark"! Curb was 100% confident that this group was going to be huge. I've never seen a time when the promoter/manager got such a spotlight promoting a group BEFORE they were famous. Even the Beatles' Brian Epstein never got the pub until they were popular. SO, Gary, I am wondering if Mike tried to promote you as heavily as he did the Clingers? Did he get you top gigs, or was he just getting started? He was quite young to be getting Clark's praise like that, I thought. If Colonel Parker had seen that, he'd have wanted to come on WITHOUT Elvis to promote Elvis! Speaking of Elvis, did anyone watch the Elvis movie or the Priscilla home movies shows? I liked the Elvis movie ok, since I did not know some of the stuff. Not sure I liked the actor so well. He seemed like he worked awful hard to get the lip thing. On "If I Can Dream", it might have been technically close to the Elvis 68 performance, BUT the problem was it was technical. He seemed to be trying to shape his mouth, rather than sweat and belt out a heartfelt performance like the King did. Kinda odd that "If I Can Dream" sparked his career comeback, when the 45 released just a couple months before that, "A Little Less Conversation", would re-launch his career in the 2000s! The Priscilla home movie show was GREAT! So good to hear from the REAL Presleys. Much much better, even if it seldom dealt with family problems that there were. What did y'all think? Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 15:03:22 -0000 From: Bob Subject: Poor Boys/Over the Hill and Down in the Valley I was a member of the Poor Boys. The song was written by John Herring as he was walking up and down the hilly streets in San Francisco. We had nothing to do with Rare Earth. The group was in existence until 1965. I think the songs were recorded in 1963 or 1964 by studio musicians. We were the House band at PJ's in Santa Monica, CA and played at clubs in Las Vegas and San Francisco. Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the 45? Bob -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 16:24:53 -0000 From: Rex Strother Subject: Teardrops - Trefzger - Saxony I've had the good fortune to make friends by email with Paul Trefzger, talk to him, meet him and help him update the Saxony website at http://www.saxonyrecordcompany.com Lots of pictures and a great story there; all might dig it. Not to mention new releases of The Teardrops CD, Rollie Willis and The Contenders CD/EP, and a 2-CD Saxony Vaults collection all recently released. In addition to keeping the Saxony label music available, Paul also co-produces CD reissues of "Interlude Era" pop singers (1948-1954) for Jasmine Records in the UK, including recently releases of Richard Hayes and Ben Light, and future releases of Toni Arden and Frances Faye. The man boasts a crazy collection of over 14,000 45s (not counting 78s, LPs, CDs and whatnot). He is a man who loves his music and if you want to chat with him, he doesn't post at Spectropop but you can email me offlist for his home email. Feel free to say "hello" and talk music with the guy. Rex -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 07:11:47 +0930 From: David Walker Subject: J C Livingstone Hi, I originally put the following query to the group a couple of years ago. If anyone can help with some info I'd be grateful. Both Flash Cadillac and the Continental Kids and J.C. Livingstone had a hit with Did You Boogie With Your Baby?. J.C.Livingstone "Did You Boogie With Your Baby" Wizard ZS-158 Written and Produced by Rod McQueen Flash Cadillac et al., "Did You Boogie (With Your Baby) Private Stock PVT 11125. Who is Rod McQueen, and is J.C.Livingstone the same person? I know that Rod McQueen had some writing credits with Daniel Boone (aka Peter Lee Stirling/Peter Green) but I have never been able to access any info on him. Any ideas? Thanks. David Walker -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 05:53:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Dugo Subject: 60sgaragebands.com June Updates The June updates to 60sgaragebands.com are now online. Featured this month are 1) the recollections of John Castellano of New York's Peck's Bad Boys, best remembered for the garage meets soul "Crazy World" single and their soundtrack contribution to a B-movie; 2) An interviews with Bill Yergin of The Rainbow Press, whose late '60's LP is highly rated by many; and 3) Interviews with four members of Stark Naked & The Car Thieves, the Indiana / California / Las Vegas band that mixed garage with showmanship. Check it out at http://www.60sgaragebands.com Mike Dugo -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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