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Spectropop - Digest Number 1934

               SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop!

There are 23 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Welcome, Alan O'Day; Phil M's covers; Phil C's video; Barry White's piano
           From: Country Paul 
      2. Re: Joel Christie
           From: Brent Cash 
      3. Nashville Beatles Festival
           From: Ed Salamon 
      4. John Denver/Mitchell; (Pirkle?) Lee Moses
           From: Country Paul 
      5. Re: 45 rpm picture sleeves
           From: Margaret G. Still 
      6. Re: "Bedazzled"
           From: Clark Besch 
      7. Re: Arkay IV on Marion
           From: Ed Salamon 
      8. lingo gap
           From: Phil X Milstein 
      9. Re: Neil Diamond's first recordings
           From: Tom Diehl 
     10. Re: LS Bumblebee
           From: Howard 
     11. The Five Dutones/ Kathy/ Helen
           From: Simon White 
     12. Re: "A Satisfied Mind"
           From: ACJ 
     13. Re: Help! I need a Beatles Weekend...
           From: Joe Nelson 
     14. Welcome Joop
           From: Lyn Nuttall 
     15. Re: Neil Diamond's first recordings
           From: Fred Clemens 
     16. Re: Louie loosey goosey, oh no; Pittsburgh hits; Artie Lewis?; quickies...
           From: Country Paul 
     17. Re: Neil Diamond's first recordings
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     18. Vicki Sallee on Dot - "Jimmy Darling"
           From: Chris Brame 
     19. Re: Barry White/Arkay IV
           From: Guy Lawrence 
     20. Re: Welcome Joop
           From: Joop Jansen 
     21. Re: Cook, Moore, and Goons
           From: Andrew Hickey 
     22. Re: Kathy Kirby, Helen Shapiro
           From: Rick Hough 
     23. RIP Eddie Barclay
           From: Eddy Smi 

Message: 1 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 00:33:12 -0400 From: Country Paul Subject: Welcome, Alan O'Day; Phil M's covers; Phil C's video; Barry White's piano Welcome out of lurkage, Alan O'Day. You have a really informative website ( ) which I look forward toexploring at more length. Also, a note for collectors: the Norton Records site Alan referred us to, , also lists the remaining catalog of Relic Records, which they picked up, both CDs and LPs. Phil M: > The [new album cover] gallery is at > ....Unfortunately my > gallery does not include Stan Cornyn's amazing liner notes! Although you specifically refer to the Dean Martin album re: Stan Cornyn's liner notes, his written ouevre during the mid -60s for WB and Reprise was remarkable. He seemed to be playing both the house hipster and house hippie (different breeds) and succeeded in frequently going over the top. We did a lot of laughing at him (and a little with him) at the time; I wonder how his writing would "feel" reading it today. Also, you choice of covers is very interesting; I shudder to think how many of the mainstream middle-road albums depicted I was forced to play on the radio until I could get a gig doing rock and/or pop. Phil Chapman wrote: > There's a reasonable mpeg of "Another Tear Falls" > at: Norm D. replied: > Phil, thanks so much for posting this link. It must be > decades since I last saw this film, and it's certainly as > I remember it....moody and noir, very art house. What a > great experience. I never saw the film, nor heard the song; I'll confess that the big Liberty hits weren't quite my cup of tea, but McDaniels displayed a remarkably rich and true vocal style here - plus those atmospherics.... Thanks for the cool find! Peter Lerner re: Barry White discography: > It doesn't seem to include Barry's sterling work as part of > Jackie DeShannon's backing band (also including Dr John) on > the adventurous "Laurel Canyon" album. ...nor his early piano work with Jesse Belvin. (I believe that's his piano work on "Goodnight My Love.") Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 11:02:05 -0000 From: Brent Cash Subject: Re: Joel Christie Hi all, earlier I wrote: > is that the same great Joel Christie who did > "Since I Found You" on Liberty?Love that record! Well, I still love it and he's still great, but I now correct myself by stating it's actually on Imperial, not Liberty. And if all goes well,it's also on musica - my first attempt at that. Details:"Since I Found You" Imperial 66198 (wr. by Joel Christie), Arranged by Gene Page, Produced by Marshall Leib. Does anyone else think that the first verse sounds a bit like B.J. Thomas belting it out? Best wishes, Brent Cash -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 14:11:25 -0000 From: Ed Salamon Subject: Nashville Beatles Festival Nashville will be having its second annual Fab Four Fest July 7-9 at The Tennessee Performing Arts Center. Louise Harrison, Joey Molland (Badfinger), Mark Hudson (Ringo Producer), Joe Johnson (Beatle Brunch radio show) are among those who will be participating. I was on a panel last year, and this year am penciled in to moderate a panel on Ringo's Beaucoups of Blues album with those who participated in it. If any S'poppers attend, please say hello. Details at Ed Salamon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 01:10:20 -0400 From: Country Paul Subject: John Denver/Mitchell; (Pirkle?) Lee Moses Phil X Milstein re: John Denver with Mitchell 3: > Does anyone know which (if any) songs John Denver sang lead > on during his time with the Mitchell Trio, or even any lead > sections of? Anything by them on Warner Brothers, I believe, including the notorious "'68 Nixon" ("He's liberal and conservative, he's humble and he's proud / He's more than just a candidate - he's a crowd!") Phil X Milstein: > Anyone know anything about guitarist/singer Lee Moses? His > "Bad Girl, Pts. 1 & 2" (included on the "All Tore Up" bootleg > compilation) is one of the greatest records of my life, but my > attempts to locate any of his other material have gone down in > way overpriced flames. I wonder if he is/was Pirkle Lee Moses, lead singer of The Eldorados ("At My Front Door," "Bim Bam Boom" on VeeJay), who passed away in 2000. Some perfunctory research has led to no reliable conclusions, but most bios of the singer and group that I found stop with the dissolution of the group. Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 18:00:48 -0000 From: Margaret G. Still Subject: Re: 45 rpm picture sleeves unsteady freddie wrote: > I would love to hear your thoughts and comments and I got > more where these came from Nice! I have a few of these myself. I wonder if anyone has done research on where location shots were done on the ones that are done on location. And - it would be fun to see a list or database giving location info on a whole bunch of picture sleeves. Know of anyone who has done that? I can tell you that the "I Get Around" sleeve was taken on the U.C.L.A. campus. Best, Margaret G. Still -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 17:38:01 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Re: "Bedazzled" Lobby: > "Bedazzled" was the musical work of Dudley Moore with some lyrics > by Peter Cook. Its a shame Dudley didn't write more pop tunes > really he certainly had the talent. His jazz LPs are brilliant. > Try and track down the LP "Bedazzled" which contains all the > songs from their classic movie of the same name. Hey, I have seen the original "Bedazzled", but never saw the 2000 remake. I did see this quote on a site that in the new movie, there is reference to Dudley & Cook. It said: "During the scene where Brendan Frazer is in the guise of "the most sensitive guy", when he tries to kiss his dream girl Alison, he gets interrupted by Elizabeth Hurley brandishing two Dobermans who she calls back with "Peter! Dudley!" Not exactly a great tribute, but nonetheless..... Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 14:19:53 -0000 From: Ed Salamon Subject: Re: Arkay IV on Marion Mikey: > Speaking of Gateway Studios in Pittsburg, they turned out some > Rock and Roll classics, the best being (in my opinion) "You're > The One" by The Vogues. I wonder whatever became of that studio, > if it was bought by another studio, or what? I remember Gateway Studios well from the 60s. It was above the National Record Mart on Forbes Avenue, near Market Square. My band's only recording was a Gateway acetate. They had their own label as well which was best known for its albums by local jazz trumpeter Harold Betters, but also had single releases by Janet Dean (Skyliners), Donnie Elbert, and The Dell Vikings. Ed Salamon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 14:09:53 -0800 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: lingo gap Does a term already exist for recordings that weren't released until several years or more had already passed? If not, I would like to propose calling them "post-release" tracks. What think yuz? --Phil M. -- My Dinner With Hasil: new Cover Art Gallery: new MP3s: -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 21:53:45 -0000 From: Tom Diehl Subject: Re: Neil Diamond's first recordings I have a promo of Pat Boone's 45 of Ten Lonely Guys. It credits the songwriters as follows: Feldman, Goldstein, Gottehrer, Elgin, Rogers, Edwards. Jr, Weiss, Adams, Farrell, Lewis. I kept a small story of the Ten Broken Hearts version on my computer that I had found a while back on ebay (and later used the same story when I sold one of my copies of the single on ebay as well.) It is as follows: "In 1962, Neil Diamond was living in New York, cranking out tunes on his piano and passing out those demos to prospective people interested in recording one of his songs. Along the way he recorded two singles with Jack Parker as Neil & Jack for Duel records, and recorded his debut Columbia single, Clown Town. What generally isn't included in the common story of Neil's early history is this little single for the Diamond (No relation to Neil) record label out of New York. Bob Feldman, Jerry Goldstein, Richard Gottehrer, Neil Diamond, Bob Elgin, Kay Rogers, Lockie Edwards, Jr, Laurence (Larry) Weiss, Cliff Adams and Wes Farrell are the 10 names credited as writing the song on this 45. Kay Rogers was actually Eddie Snyder, and Bob Elgin was actually Stanley Kahan. When Pat Boone covered the song, Neil Diamond's name on the label also changed, to Mark Lewis. Pat's version peaked at 10/20/62 on both Billboard and Cash Box, peaking at 45 and 58 respectively. This version, while it most likely sold a bunch of copies around New York, failed to chart. It has been reported that Gary Criss sang the lead on this record, but after hearing a few of his other solo records released for Diamond, that just is not true. So, WHO is the lead singer? I don't know. Maybe you can tell me. As a side note, Bob Feldman, Jerry Goldstein and Richard Gottehrer later became popular as The Strangeloves (they had also written My Boyfriend's Back for the angels around the same time this 45 was recorded)." I do know that the single sold a lot of copies within New York, as Joe Kolsky really pushed it there. I have seen only two promo copies of the single ever (one being yours, i dont own any) and only one of those inserts, being the one you posted. Also, for the lead singer of Shining Star, I do honestly believe it is sung by the same guy who did the lead on Ten Lonely Guys. I've played both sides to hear the similarities in the voice. I also do know that some internet sites claim Gary Criss (shown on websites as Gary Chris) is the lead singer of the sides, but it isn't true, even though he did have a few releases on Diamond before and after the Ten Broken Hearts single. His voice is too different. BTW, on your promo 45 is Shining Star on the B side? On the other promo I've seen, Ten Lonely Guys was on both sides. Its also on both sides of my Pat Boone promo 45....which I bought only because I wanted to hear how it differed from the Ten Broken Hearts does have some different lyrics, in fact, as some of the names have been changed. As for the history of the tune I've kept on my computer, I think I will rewrite it to incorporate the other two stories told about it, to make it more accurate. BTW, as for the lyrics, the Ten Broken Hearts version shows Larry as the last one on the list, while Pat Boone says it's "I". Does that mean there are ELEVEN lonely guys on the Diamond label recording? Tom "Diamond Hunter" Diehl -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 02:37:40 -0400 From: Howard Subject: Re: LS Bumblebee Clark Besch wrote: > Now do I have this wrong, or did he and Cook > do "LS Bumblebee"? You're right Clark, it was banned by the BBC I believe for its drug connection. The 'b' side (sic) was a monologue refering to taking mind bending drugs, very funny too. Howard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 19:06:14 +0100 From: Simon White Subject: The Five Dutones/ Kathy/ Helen Phil M.: > Very cool Barry White discography at > > ...include[s] quite a lot of surprises. > ...Such as the fact that he was in the Five DuTones ("Shake > A Tail Feather"). Big change to the Love Man from that one! I'm very curious about this. Barry's recordings and productions are all L.A. as far as I'm aware and The Five Dutones were a Chicago group. I can't think of a single reason he would be a member of the Five Dutones. Incidently, James and Bobby Purify's version of "Shake a Tail Feather" got the Northern Soul vote in England. Re: Kathy Kirby Spectropop rules say I can't post it into musica because it's readily available on CD. But for U.S. members who may never have heard it, Kathy's version of of "Secret Love" is a showstopper. UK members will know it well,as it was a big hit in the UK - I remember loving it as a child- it is, in my opinion simply the best UK girl record ever. There, I've said it. I will try and post a scan of the sleeve of the E.P.from which "Reach Out For Me" is taken though. The same E.P. contains a track "Big Man" which has a somewhat camp value to it. ....Which brings me to something else I've been meaning to mention for more than two years....... A small team of UK Spectropoppers convened in Manchester a few years ago for a 'Discotheque' night in a room above a pub. Some of us were DeeJaying there, myself included. Many classic Girl Group and Girl records were played that night. However, one record in particular caused a rush to the dance floor by some rather serious young mods in period costume who had previously chosen to dance only to Northern Soul records. Believing it to be a hitherto undiscovered NY soul gem, they left their girlfriends stranded clutching their rum & Cokes and Pernod & gins while the boys threw shapes and posed in the coolest manner on the wooden dancefloor shuffling around after a serious, masculine fashion. It provided we with great amusement from behind the wheels of steel, because the record in question was Helen Shapiro's "Queen For Tonight" which, enhanced by Helen's deep voice and the shrill girlie backing vocals, is a very camp record indeed given the title and lyrics. The song, as we know, was written by Spectropop member Artie Wayne. Artie, I'm sure you were not writing the song with thatrical camp in mind, but the fact remains it has a huge value in that direction and the juxtapostion that night truly made it a "moment". Simon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 15:55:27 -0400 From: ACJ Subject: Re: "A Satisfied Mind" Country Paul, Believe it or not, gospel legend Mahalia Jackson recorded a version of "A Satisfied Mind" - one of the very few secular songs she ever did, though she did it in a gospel context. Even so, you can't get much more soulful than that! ACJ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 13:15:31 -0400 From: Joe Nelson Subject: Re: Help! I need a Beatles Weekend... David Walker: > " the reel-to-reel 2-track recorder used by the > Beatles to record the first "demo" recordings, owned > by Pete Best, the Beatles original drummer." FWIW, the first demos of the group were recorded there was no drummer in the group. Joe Nelson -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 06:40:16 -0000 From: Lyn Nuttall Subject: Welcome Joop I want to welcome my friend/collaborator/informant Joop to Spectropop and warmly recommend him to other members. Joop's knowledge, scholarship and analysis often leave me in awe. Indeed, his name is sprinkled around my website where I have acknowledged his contributions in nailing that elusive original version. The Problemsolving Forum at The Originals is cleaned out now and then, so not all threads remain, but to read Joop, 'honeydhont' and Kees (also a member here) tracking down some obscure fine point about music history is to observe geniuses at work. It all illustrates something I took a while to discover: some of the very best research and documentation in the area of pop music history originates in the Netherlands and Dutch-speaking Belgium. Lyn at -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 23:53:43 -0000 From: Fred Clemens Subject: Re: Neil Diamond's first recordings David A. Young wrote: > Check the Photos section, Labels and Sleeves folder, for a > label scan, as well as one of the card-stock insert distributed > with the DJ copies (a true period piece, as, obviously, is the > song itself). And check musica to hear the 45 version, which I > assume is the rarer of the two.......... the lead singer's > definitely neither Diamond nor the A-side vocalist, but it is a > male ensemble, so who knows? I'd read somewhere that the lead voice on the "Ten Lonely Guys" Diamond issue was Gary Criss, another Diamond Artist. Listening to it and comparing the voice to another Criss record, I still can't hear any similarity. I have the Diamond promo issue, which was pressed on brown wax (holding it up to the light will bring out the translucent color). Most Diamond promos that I have are on "brown wax". I never knew of the insert. Thanks for posting it. Fred Clemens -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 20:17:15 -0400 From: Country Paul Subject: Re: Louie loosey goosey, oh no; Pittsburgh hits; Artie Lewis?; quickies... Patrick Rands passed along: > BENTON HARBOR, Mich. --A pop culture controversy that has > simmered for decades came to a head when a middle school > marching band was told not to perform "Louie Louie." ... > The best-known, most notorious version was a hit in 1963 for > The Kingsmen; the FBI spent two years investigating the lyrics > before declaring they not only were not obscene but also > were "unintelligible at any speed." I just want to reassure our foreign correspondents that this narrow-minded view is far from a majority viewpoint in the U.S., although it appears to be held by an embarrasing minority. Nor do most of us think that a two-year investigation by the FBI was worth one penny of whatever they spent on it. I am frustrated on behalf of my country. Mikey wrote: > Speaking of Gateway Studios in Pittsburg, they turned out some > rock and roll classics, the best being (in my opinion) "You're > The One" by The Vogues. I wonder whatever became of that studio, > if it was bought by another studio, or what? The studio/label had a whole herd of releases, my favorite being the Pittsburgh hit "Another Night Alone" by Janet Deane (Janet Vogl of The Skyliners). The pop programming of WBRU, my old college radio station and an early progressive voice in the Northeast, was, in its 1960s Top 40 shows, strongly influenced by a guy from Pittsburgh who turned us on to a lot of the local hits of his hometown. The station is having a major mid-60s-folks reunion at the end of June, by the way, and I'm hoping that the guy (Dave Ogden) will attend. Strangely, I've never been to the city, but hear that it's a great place to live. By the way, another Pittsburgh hit, "Let's Be Lovers" by The Starglows, was discussed here some time back. Someone opined that it was The Flamingoes using a nom de plume. Not quite so; I've since learned that when lead singer Nate Nelson and guitarist Terry Johnson left that The Flamingoes, they formed The Starglows; so the comment is at least looking in the right direction. (I'll never know why this record never went national.) I have a long-time favorite single by Artie Lewis (Atco 45-6169, 1960): "Abracadabra"/"Hey Little School Girl." It's a rockin' big band sound, arr./cond. Richard Wess. I think it was a hit at some level, possibly in New York, where it got significant airplay. There's also an Artie Lewis release on Loma 2073, "Falling (In Love With You)"/"Ainít No Good," from 1967 (same person), and a reference to an actor in Hollywood bythe same name, who once worked with Dean Martin. With so many new correspondents on board, does anyone have any knowledge about this record or its artist? (One of the very few Google listings that isn't offering a copy for sale is a reference I made in these posts a while ago.) Quickies... Interesting version of Patty Michaels' "Born A Woman" -- nice reading, but the cry in Sandy Posey's voice, in my opinion, demanded that her version be the hit. Glad to have this, though! Great stories: Thank you -- David A. Young for "Ten Lonely Guys," Artie Wayne for "Heavy Church" and Bob Celli for the Snuff Garrett update and the tale of "Chip Chip." Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 13:46:56 -0400 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: Neil Diamond's first recordings Tom Diehl wrote: > I have a promo of Pat Boone's 45 of Ten Lonely Guys. It credits > the songwriters as follows: Feldman, Goldstein, Gottehrer, Elgin, > Rogers, Edwards. Jr, Weiss, Adams, Farrell, Lewis. Note that the "ten lonely guys" of the song's lyrics bear the same first names as those of the "ten lonely guys" who wrote the song together. Cool record -- does anyone else hear a faint strain of "Memories Are Made Of This" in its melody? I dig the idea of Neil Diamond being involved with a record on the Diamond label! For comparison's sake, I've posted the Neil-sung version, from Bob Feldman's "Roots Of S.O.B., Vol. 2," to my Probe site. Note that what was "Ten Broken Hearts" on Diamond is "Ten Lonely Guys" in this version, with the artist name and song title thus matching one another. Dig, --Phil M. -- My Dinner With Hasil: Joker's Bent Circuits: new Cover Art Gallery: new MP3s: -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 19:48:13 -0000 From: Chris Brame Subject: Vicki Sallee on Dot - "Jimmy Darling" One of my all-time favorites is "Jimmy Darling" by Vicki Sallee on Dot. To me it's always sounded like a sequel to "It Might As Well Rain Until September" (including the plucked strings for raindrops), but much more desperate. Does anyone know who were the musicians on this record? Particularly the drummer, as it's a very drum-driven track. Thanks! Chris -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 21:35:46 +0100 From: Guy Lawrence Subject: Re: Barry White/Arkay IV Phil wrote: > Very cool Barry White discography ... Is The Atlantics on Rampart a doo-wop version of "Home On The Range"? Sounds like a nice idea to me -- has anybody heard it? I have little to add to Rob's mention of the Arkay IV except to say that their "I'll Keep On Trying" is an absolutely gorgeous instrumental, with Runaway-esque keyboards to the fore, and is well worth seeking out (or playing to musica?). Guy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 20:34:48 -0000 From: Joop Jansen Subject: Re: Welcome Joop Lyn Nuttall wrote: > Joop's knowledge, scholarship and analysis often leave > me in awe. Indeed, his name is sprinkled around my website > where I have acknowledged his contributions in nailing that > elusive original version. Thanks for your kind words, Lyn, but it's a little bit too much honour for this musicfan. I would rather give the honour to Arnold Rypens and his fantastic work in the past -- and, hopefully, the future -- on the Originals website: Joop greets -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 22:28:02 +0100 From: Andrew Hickey Subject: Re: Cook, Moore, and Goons Lobby wrote: > I have to correct one thing, though: neither Peter Cook nor > Dudley Moore had anything to do with the original Goon > Shows. They started out on a satirical theatre show called > "Beyond The Fringe," before moving on and working for David > Frost on "That Was The Week That Was". ... > The Goons are the work of Spike Milligan (genius), Peter > Sellers, Harry Secombe and Micheal Bentine ... And I have to correct the correction -- Bentine was not actually ever in The Goon Show. He only appeared in the two pre-Goon series of The Crazy People, before it changed its name to The Goon Show. Cook and Moore were also never involved in That Was The Week That Was -- TW3 was in fact an attempt to capitalise on the 'satire boom' started by Cook's Establishment Club (Cook cordially loathed David Frost, and said his only true regret was that he once saved him from drowning). Cook and Moore's TV careers pretty much started with what was originally intended to be a Dudley Moore special but which ended up being the first Not Only ... But Also. The Goons, incidentally, started due to music -- Milligan and Sellers met in the army when they both played in troop shows, Milligan on trumpet and Sellers on drums. George Martin, of course, produced the Goons' records, providing him with useful experience when it came to the Beatles' work. Dudley Moore's best musical work, IMO, is actually in the Beyond The Fringe recordings (also produced by Martin, and sampled for the audience noise on Sgt Pepper), where he provided much of the background music (such on the merging of Beethoven and Lili Marlene in the Aftermyth Of War sketch) as well as musical parodies like his setting of Little Miss Muffet in the style of Benjamin Britten. -- A webcomic about Smile On temporary hiatus while I'm lacking net access, but back soon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 03:37:15 -0000 From: Rick Hough Subject: Re: Kathy Kirby, Helen Shapiro Simon White wrote: > I've been a closet Kathy Kirby fan since I was a kid -- > I realise now it was the shiny lipstick that did it. Way to go, Simon! Here's Kathy Kirby's own official website. By the way there's a KK- approved tell-all on the way: It's great to see some long-overdue mentions for Helen and KK, two all-time faves, even if it's in the context of camp. Although The Times bemoans a dearth of gay appreciation for Kathy Kirby, it's great to know that Northern Soul metrosexuals dig Helen Shapiro (they're solely responsible for making her "Stop (And You Will Become Aware)" so collectable 20 years ago); and their dancing to "Queen For Tonight" -- GREAT song, GREAT production -- is a vindication of good taste! Or maybe it's the end of masculinity as we know it -- something which arch-Conservatives have long prophesized. But I digress. Can anyone explain why these two girls remain so uncelebrated and apparently unappreciated? They're both brilliant vocalists and both made amazing records during and after their chart reigns. "Helen In Nashville" (1963) is so good that it demands instant replay, and "Helen Hits Out" (1964) has to be one of the finest girl group albums ever made. There are gems galore among her 1964-70 singles, such as "Stop", "She Needs Company", "You'll Get Me Loving You", "Silly Boy", "Today Has Been Cancelled" and the brilliant "Queen For Tonight," but you'll rarely hear them on CD. And if that's not enough, she was able to smooth out her foghorn pipes enough to turn in some excellent jazz in the '80s. Why can't she even attract contemporary though empty buzzwords like "diva" and "icon"? Of course Kathy Kirby's camp overload (her "personal problems"), looks (Monroesque), voice (Garland meets Connie Francis) and the now- legendary lipgloss) has its counterpoint in her music: a schizoid mix of excellent Great American Songbook LPs offset by some outrageous titshaker 45s. But the quality is there by the bucketload. Evidence for the defense: "Big Man" (an upbeat rewrite of "Uptown" -- yes, it's possible!); those eight-bar sustains on the bullfight epic "You're The One"; the insinuating horns which make "Love Me Baby" just as dirty as it should be; '50s schlock like "Secret Love" and "Let Me Go Lover" reinvented as pseudo-rock blasters; the haunting balladry of "Where In The World"; the throb power of "Dance On", Snuff Garret's blueprint for Cher's chart-topping "The Way Of Love". Producer Charles Blackwell should've been given an OBE for this stuff! The music of Helen Shapiro and Kathy Kirby doesn't really attract trendy (or respectable) labels nowadays, but their catalogs are littered with superb records which may or may not unleash The Drag Queen Within. So be it! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 10:30:11 +0200 From: Eddy Smi Subject: RIP Eddie Barclay Flamboyant Famous French record producer Eddie Barclay (real name Edouard Ruault) died in Paris at the age of 84. He discovered a.o. Jacques Brel, Charles Aznavour and Mireille Mathieu. Eddy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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