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Spectropop - Digest Number 1932



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There are 15 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Louie Louie in the news
           From: Patrick Rands 
      2. Welcome Alan O'Day
           From: Bob Rashkow 
      3. Re: "Happiness Is"
           From: Bob Rashkow 
      4. Gene McDaniels and "Chip Chip"
           From: Bob Celli 
      5. Marva Josie
           From: Felonious 
      6. Re: "Bedazzled"
           From: Clark besch 
      7. Flashback by the 5D
           From: Richard Gagnon 
      8. Re:Gene McDaniels/Another Tear Falls
           From: Bpb Celli 
      9. Re: Gillian & Almo Sound
           From: Dee Lacevic 
     10. Re: Gene McDaniels "Another Tear Falls"
           From: Peter Lerner 
     11. Re: "I Love New York"
           From: Claire Francis 
     12. Re: whither Ringo
           From: Pete Palmiere 
     13. Follow Up From O'Day
           From: Alan ODay 
     14. Re: "Happiness Is"
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     15. Re: Arkay IV on Marion
           From: MopTopMike 


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Message: 1 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 17:29:17 -0000 From: Patrick Rands Subject: Louie Louie in the news Band banned from performing 'Louie Louie' May 5, 2005 BENTON HARBOR, Mich. --A pop culture controversy that has simmered for decades came to a head when a middle school marching band was told not to perform "Louie Louie." Benton Harbor Superintendent Paula Dawning cited the song's allegedly raunchy lyrics in ordering the McCord Middle School band not to perform it in Saturday's Grand Floral Parade, held as part of the Blossomtime Festival. In a letter sent home with McCord students, Dawning said "Louie Louie" was not appropriate for Benton Harbor students to play while representing the district -- even though the marching band wasn't going to sing it. Band members and parents complained to the Board of Education at its Tuesday meeting that it was too late to learn another song, The Herald-Palladium of St. Joseph reported. "It's very stressful for us to try to come up with new songs for the band," eighth-grader Laurice Martin told the board. "We're trying to learn the songs from last year, but some of us weren't in the band last year." Dawning said that if a majority of parents supports their children playing the song, she will reconsider her decision. "It was not that I knew at the beginning and said nothing," Dawning said. "I normally count on the staff to make reliable decisions. I found out because a parent called, concerned about the song being played." "Louie Louie," written by Richard Berry in 1956, is one of the most recorded songs in history. The best-known, most notorious version was a hit in 1963 for the Kingsmen; the FBI spent two years investigating the lyrics before declaring they not only were not obscene but also were "unintelligible at any speed." from: http://tinyurl.com/9fv2n -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 00:53:43 EDT From: Bob Rashkow Subject: Welcome Alan O'Day It's great to hear from you, Alan. Your "Undercover Angel" was a well-deserved hit in '77, great production, arrangement and lyrics. "Angie Baby" is certainly another example of your penning talent; who was your co-writer on that one? Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 00:06:20 EDT From: Bob Rashkow Subject: Re: "Happiness Is" Beaver (Jerry Mathers) and the Trappers' song is "Happiness Is Havin'" and isn't the same song as "Happiness Is" (I remember the Kent commercial) which was "basically" recorded by MOR artists. Probably among other comps the Beav and friends' wonderful tribute to teenage big-time dreaming is included on "Hipsville 29 BC" (Sparkles) (LP, possibly also CD) which also contains the Guys Who Came Up From Downstairs, Oh Those Eyes by the Vagrants, Danny's Reasons' super-speeded up version of Little Diane, etc. I thought I remembered, at least originally, the Kent commercial including other lyrics: "Happiness is/the taste of Kent!" etc. repeated and then "That's what happiness is..." Did they perhaps take out those lyrics when the FCC intervened and prohibited smoking equated with enjoyment? "Happiness", from YOU'RE A GOOD MAN, CHARLIE BROWN, appeared some months later in 1967, I believe This too, I seem to recall, was picked up and recorded by quite a number of MOR artists, especially being the only song other than the title track that was catchy. Even so it's a very good musical, enjoyable as heck. Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 10:49:50 -0000 From: Bob Celli Subject: Gene McDaniels and "Chip Chip" A few years ago I had the opportunity to interview Cliff Crofford, the gentleman who penned "Chip Chip". Cliff told me that Snuff Garrett got a song from a couple of writers called "Chip Chip" sent to him, but he didn't like anything about it except the title. He asked Cliff to write a song called "Chip Chip" without telling Cliff anythng about the demo he had been sent. Cliff said that he went home that cold and rainy night, lit the oven, pulled the door open, pulled up the kitchen chair, stuck his feet up on the open door, and wrote "Chip Chip" in a few hours. When I asked him why there were two other writers on the label, he told me that he had to share the writers credits with the other two guys because they supplied the title. He also mentioned that Snuff spent the better part of a day looking for just the right piece of metal to make that "chipping" sound on the record. Bob -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 18:10:55 +0100 From: Felonious Subject: Marva Josie Claire Francis wrote: > I just got an email saying that "I Love New York" artist > Marva Josie, written by Claire Francis and Herbie Hancock > sold on Ebay for $208.50 - This is just a 45 rpm....!!! > Why is this so expensive; what makes it so costly? How do I say this Claire. It's the other side "Don't" which is sought after by those crazy Northern Soul fans. Most of Marva's records go for normal less that $10 but "Don't" and "I Don't Care" go into three figures. It can be found on Talcum Soul a collection of northern soul floor-fillers http://www.localdial.com/users/jsyedu133/Soulreview/cdpages/talcumn.htm The most money paid for a 45rpm record is the 14,500 paid by Scotsman Kenny Burrell (not the guitarist) for the Soul demo copy of "Do I Love you" by Frank Wilson (the Motown songwriter /producer) I have a mint UK Motown 7" copy released earlier which I paid HMV 4 . If you see any crazy prices for 45s, chances are it will be a Northern Soul rarity, after that Freakbeat or a sixties funk record. In the meantime here's a tip Marva Josie's "Later For You Baby" /"You Lied" might be about to go big. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 16:52:07 -0000 From: Clark besch Subject: Re: "Bedazzled" previously: > And find "Bedazzled" by Peter Cook & Dudley Moore, with vocals > by The Breakaways, one of the girls' finest moments, now playing > at musica. Lobby: > "Bedazzled" was the musical work of Dudley Moore with some lyrics > by Peter Cook. Its a shame Dudley didn't write more pop tunes > really he certainly had the talent. His jazz LPs are brilliant. > Try and track down the LP "Bedazzled" which contains all the > songs from their classic movie of the same name. Of course I cannot find it, but I'm sure most of you Moore collectors have the Ready Steady Go performance of Cooke & Moore doing "Goodbye- ee"--pretty crazy stuff. I never saw the Goon shows and much of his other '60s work, but I love "Arthur"--how many of us woulda loved to be that guy??? I have a classical piano piece on 45 from his '80s recording days somewhere. Seems like I remember critics thinking the music was nothing special, but he certainly was a terrific concert pianist! Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 12:51:33 -0400 From: Richard Gagnon Subject: Flashback by the 5D Artie Wayne wrote: > Although "Flashback" was the 5th's last hit record, to my > knowledge, it hasn't been included in any of their greatest hit > collections. Then I'm happy to tell you it's present and accounted for on their (IMHO) finest comp, Up-Up And Away: The Definitive Collection. It's track 18 of disc 2 on this wonderful, if blandly titled compilation. That's where I first heard Flashback, myself. Richard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 19:09:33 -0000 From: Bpb Celli Subject: Re:Gene McDaniels/Another Tear Falls Phil Chapman wrote: > There's a reasonable mpeg of "Another Tear Falls" > at: http://www.amajor.com/video Norm D.: > ..... It must be decades since I last saw this film, and > it's certainly as I remember it ....moody and noir, very > art house. What a great experience. This is truly a powerful arrangement and one of Gene's best vocal performances! Ernie Freeman certainly did his best work for both Gene and Bobby Vee while working with Liberty and Snuffy Garrett! Bob -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 15:16:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Dee Lacevic Subject: Re: Gillian & Almo Sound > Current artist Gillian Welch recorded her first two CDs for > Almo Sounds, a label run by Alpert and Moss. When they > closed the label they gave her the rights to her recordings > rather than handing them over to Universal (I think that is > who would have gotten them.) That was supremely cool of them. I was involved with Almo Sounds - the deal was really that a band could either choose to be paid off for the remainder of their contract, or they could get their records back, except in a case or two (like Garbage) where the contract was assigned to Universal. Gillian and David chose to get their masters - probably a wise choice considering the viability of their career. Some other bands did the same; others took the cash and called it a day. All this was accomplished with a minimum of fuss - a testament to the grooviness of Jerry and Herb. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 20:18:41 +0100 From: Peter Lerner Subject: Re: Gene McDaniels "Another Tear Falls" Jim wrote: > After hearing Gene's "Another Tear Falls" I wondered if maybe > the other Gene, Pitney, had ever recorded it? It would've been > perfect for him, given his range and the song's mini-operatic > ending." I'm not sure about that, but the Walker Brothers did a lovely version which hit the UK charts. Peter -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 18:18:07 EDT From: Claire Francis Subject: Re: "I Love New York" Phil M. wrote: > The simple answer is that it is a great record; clean, original > copies are most likely difficult to find; and it involves > personnel who have since built up a sizeable fan base. Beyond > that, though, the laws of supply-and-demand tend to fly out the > window when dealing with any rare commodity, because when all > that is needed to make a sale is just one seller and one buyer > there is no telling what price they might agree to. Thus, were > the exact same record to go on sale a month from now, it could > just as easily go for a fraction of that price -- or, > theoretically, many times more. Claire writes: Thanks for the info Phil. Since joining Spectropop I have learned a good deal about collecting records from the 60s. I have loads of LPs and maybe even 45s in cartons somewhere...I guess it is time to get them out!!! > Phil writes: > Ah, that is great news! Long may you wave, and we'll be there > for your next session as much as we were for this past one. Claire says: Thanks for your support! I truly believe that the prayers from Spectropop members helped pull me through....I'll let you all know when I will be going into surgery again. Every Mother's Day, I celebrate my love for Mother Earth with a prayer for all life on this Earth. For all you songwriters out there..it's time a good day to write a song....Long live S'pop!! Love and Light, Claire Francis http://www.clairefrancis.com -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 20:34:56 -0000 From: Pete Palmiere Subject: Re: whither Ringo Phil X Milstein wrote: > Was I hallucinating, or did I really see Ringo Starr hawking > one of those dime-a-dozen "The Best Of The Golden Oldies" > collections on a cheeseball infomercial The idea that pop musicians are good at selling products is not a new one. I just picked up a Roy Orbison collection that contains a bunch of Coca Cola radio spots that he did back in the '60s. More recently, Bob Dylan appeared on-camera in a series of strange Victoria's Secret TV ads. U2 is featured in Apple's iPod commercials Pop stars have always sold anything and everything to make a few extra dollars. If John Sebastian (arguably a much "better" musician than Ringo) can happily hawk oldies collections on late-night TV, then perhaps we should cut Ringo some slack. By the way, apparently back in the mid-90s, Ringo did some TV commercials in Japan for some sort of apple sauce. At least hosting oldies TV commercials seems to be a bit more in Ringo's field. Kurt Benbenek Long Beach, CA -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 06:13:40 -0000 From: Alan ODay Subject: Follow Up From O'Day WOW! Thanks for the welcoming posts & e-mails from Ed, Rob, Phil, Frank, Rex, Gary, Rashkovsky (thanks for putting quotes around "dirty"), and anyone I missed. My pal Joel is delighted to be remembered, as well. More to add later. Chordially, Alan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 13:55:59 -0800 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: "Happiness Is" Larry Lapka wrote: > By the way, was this song also recorded by Beaver & The Trappers, > Jerry Mathers' band? I kind of doubt it, but I figured I would ask. That came up here about a week ago. The short answer is no, Mathers' record was titled "Happiness Is Havin'," and is a completely different song. I heard a rumor recently that Jerry Mathers is Eminem's father, but I'm not yet convinced it's true. --Phil M. -- new Cover Art Gallery: http://www.philxmilstein.com/temp/gallery2 new posts: http://www.philxmilstein.com/probe -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 13:31:43 -0000 From: MopTopMike Subject: Re: Arkay IV on Marion Rob Pingel wrote: > One of the fun obscure records in my collection is a release > on Marion Records: "Down From No.9" b/w "When I Was Younger," > by the Arkay IV with Bill Adleff. The label reads "Recorded > at Gateway Studios, Pittsburgh." There is no label number. > Was this record a local hit back East? Anyone have any info > about the group? > > Rob Pingel The Arkay IV were from Erie, PA. All of their 45s (three released on Marion, in '66, '67 and '68) all charted locally in that area. Here is their output as it will appear in my Garageband tome, TeenBeat Mayhem: Marion (17811/2) Surprise Love / Another Way Oct'66 Marion (18805/6) Down From No. 9/ When I Was Younger Mar'67 Marion (21667/8) Demotion / I'll Keep On Trying Apr'68 Other 45s: Two unreleased acetates (Gateway Rec. Studios) and a 'reunion' 45 in the 1980's. * All releases credited as the Arkay IV with Bill Adleff. "I'll Keep On Trying" released on the 3rd single is just an instrumental track, with horns overdubbed. There is a vocal version unreleased at that time which can be found on a compilation of Arkay IV sides, released on Collectibles. This has everything, including their LP tracks (the Arkay IV LP released circa 1967/8). Note - the Marion record labels have no offical release numbers designated. Whenever that occurs, I employ parenthesis around the "Master" or "pressing plant added" numbers in order to reference each disc in some sequential order. The Marion 45s were pressed by Rite Recording Studios in Cincy, Ohio. All Rite pressings sport a set of master on each side of the 45. MopTopMike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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