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Spectropop - Digest Number 1931

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: "Reach Out For Me" covers
           From: Jimmy Botticelli 
      2. whither Ringo
           From: Phil X Milstein 
      3. Re: Our Patch Of Blue  (Map City, Vini Poncia)
           From: Lyn Nuttall 
      4. Re: "Bedazzled"
           From: Frank Jastfelder 
      5. Re: late-period Rascals
           From: Larry Lapka 
      6. Blossom Dearie radio show
           From: Patrick 
      7. Re: Gene McDaniels / "Another Tear Falls" video
           From: Jim Fisher 
      8. Arkay IV on Marion
           From: Rob Pingel 
      9. Re: Welcome Alan O'Day
           From: Chris A Schneider 
     10. Re: did Barry shake his tailfeather?
           From: Simon White 
     11. Re: Hi Everyone, from Alan O'Day
           From: Clark Besch 
     12. Re: Kingsmen vs. Scepter
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     13. The Rascals
           From: Javed Jafri 
     14. Re: Leave it to whom?
           From: James Botticelli 
     15. Re: BW, JDS and PAD
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     16. Re: Looking for a memory possibly from 1961- 62
           From: Rodney Rawlings 
     17. Re: Reach Out For Me; Kathy Kirby
           From: James Botticelli 
     18. Re: welcome AO'D
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     19. Re: Stigwood as "producer"
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     20. Re: Kathy Kirby
           From: Roy Clough 
     21. Re: John Denver with Mitchell 3
           From: Steve Harvey 
     22. Re: Stigwood; "Bedazzled"
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     23. Jerr-E, Jerr-E . . . Kathy Kirby
           From: Steve Harvey 
     24. late-period Rascals-Annie Sutton
           From: Bob Kacerow 
     25. Re: In Arts
           From: Bob Rashkow 

Message: 1 Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 21:23:50 -0400 From: Jimmy Botticelli Subject: Re: "Reach Out For Me" covers Howard Earnshaw wrote: > I looked at this and thought how many cover versions of the > great Bacharach-David composition "Reach Out For Me" are there. Walter Wandeley (A&M/CTI) Universal Mind (Red Coach) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 12:02:03 -0800 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: whither Ringo Was I hallucinating, or did I really see Ringo Starr hawking one of those dime-a-dozen "The Best Of The Golden Oldies" collections on a cheeseball infomercial -- the kind where, after delivering a brief intro, the star turns the rest of the show over to "my good friend Mr. Someone You've Never Heard Of Before" -- the other night? That is far more typically the province of the likes of a Davy Jones, who often seems hard-up to make a buck, and it actually concerned me to consider that dear Ringo might be in the same boat as that. Kind of sadly, --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 07:34:48 -0000 From: Lyn Nuttall Subject: Re: Our Patch Of Blue (Map City, Vini Poncia) I wrote: > Our Patch Of Blue had a single on Warner Brothers in 1969 > called Zoom Zoom Zoom ... Kinda sad, replying to my own messages, but someone who has the 45 tells me it was produced by Vini Poncia, as a 'Map City Production'. That will ring a bell to those who saw earlier threads here about Map City, the label formed by Anders & Poncia, I believe in '69. That's interesting, don't you think? Yes, Lyn, it certainly is. Lyn -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 12:51:20 +0200 From: Frank Jastfelder Subject: Re: "Bedazzled" Phil M. asked: > Terrific record! Is that the only version of "Bedazzled" from the > '60s era? Did Cook and/or Moore write it themselves? I've uploaded a scan of the original 45 (both sides) to the Photos section. They list Cook & Moore as the writers. Frank J. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 05:49:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Larry Lapka Subject: Re: late-period Rascals The Rascals could have resuscitated their career pretty quickly, but a silly decision by the band members did them in. I interviewed Dino Danelli and Gene Cornish a number of years ago, just prior to the Rascals reunion (1987 or so I believe). The interview was done in a Japanese restaurant in New York City, and the drinks were flowing pretty well that night (I don't drink at all, so my recollection is vivid). Both Danelli and Cornish told me that the band had been approached by the promoters of Woodstock and asked to perform at the festival. They were among the first of the performers to be asked. According to both musicians, the band thought over the invite, then, to a man, decided that playing in the "cow pasture" would do nothing for their careers. Cornish told me that the thought of mud turned them all off. The rest is history, and The Rascals rested in peace (at least in popularity) after that misguided decision. Both musicians told me that in hindsight it was probably the stupidest decision that they had collectively made as a band. It would have opened them up to a new audience, but at the time they could not see the forest for the mud. Larry Lapka -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 13:04:13 -0000 From: Patrick Subject: Blossom Dearie radio show For those of you interested in jazzy pop singers, tune in Friday night (5/6/05) between 6-7PM EST at 90.3 FM in the Boston area, or online at for a full hour of incredible music by Blossom Dearie. Blossom Dearie has been recording since the 1950s, recording for the Verve, Fontana, and Daffodil labels (Daffodil is her own label), amongst others, and she still performs in New York City. Her albums have been getting reissued lately, though some of them still remain out of print, and I will try to spotlight her music from the 50s up until the 1970s. :Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 09:11:04 -0700 From: Jim Fisher Subject: Re: Gene McDaniels / "Another Tear Falls" video Phil Chapman wrote: > There's a reasonable mpeg of "Another Tear Falls" at: > Great video. Thanks, good to get a chance to see it. You can barely spot Gene through all the smoke -- it looks like the joint was on fire! I also saw a couple of Dean Martin/Sinatra clips from a similar vintage the other day. They're smoking up a storm in every scene and looking mighty cool -- almost made me want to run and get a pack. After hearing Gene's "Another Tear Falls" I wondered if maybe the other Gene, Pitney, had ever recorded it? It would've been perfect for him, given his range and the song's mini-operatic ending. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 16:37:56 -0000 From: Rob Pingel Subject: Arkay IV on Marion One of the fun obscure records in my collection is a release on Marion Records: "Down From No.9" b/w "When I Was Younger," by the Arkay IV with Bill Adleff. The label reads "Recorded at Gateway Studios, Pittsburgh." There is no label number. Was this record a local hit back East? Anyone have any info about the group? Rob Pingel -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 10:20:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris A Schneider Subject: Re: Welcome Alan O'Day Mike Rashkow: > Are you [i.e. Alan O'Day] related to Anita O'Day? Not entirely sure how serious this question is. You do know, don't you, that "Anita O'Day" was the singing name dreamed up by Anita Colton? To quote her autobiography "High Times, Hard Times": "In pig latin, O'Day means 'dough', which is what I hoped to make." Wishing plenty of "o'day" to all of you ... Chris -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 17:57:48 +0100 (BST) From: Simon White Subject: Re: did Barry shake his tailfeather? Jimmy Botticelli wrote > Barry White as one of the Five Dutones! Who knew? My eyes widened at this too. I'm not sure I believe it though. I'm trying to find out more. Simon White -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 16:42:57 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Re: Hi Everyone, from Alan O'Day Alan O'Day wrote: > Well, I've been lurking & reading enjoyable snippets since my > pal Artie Wayne suggested I get on board Spectropop (while > waving a loaded gun). Just kidding, but if you know Artie, you > know he can be persuasive. Now seeing two familiar subjects > in the last digest, I guess it's time for me to contribute! Alan, let me be one of the 100 responses (that are being written as I write), welcoming you to Spectropop! Artie, keep 'em coming! > Quick bio: I wrote "Angie Baby" (Helen Reddy), co-wrote > "Rock'n'Roll Heaven" (Righteous Bros), and was the writer & > singer of "Undercover Angel". But years before that I wrote > Bobby Sherman's "The Drum" while a staff writer at both E.H. > Morris Music (Sydney Goldstein), and Viva Music (Ed Silvers, > Snuff Garrett, Artie Wayne). I remained at Viva as a staff > writer when Snuffy left & Viva became Warner Bros. Music, in > total I was there for 13 years. "Undercover Angel" sits in my faves. I really like the long LP version too. I listened to your new version on your website, and you still have the voice, altho I'm not into the more "rap" version performed there. Also really liked "Started out Dancing" as a follow-up. I was surprised when it didn't become a hit. I know the original version of "Rock & Roll Heaven" by Climax didn't sell, but the re-do by the R Brothers was a really great rendition. I think you got a little complex with the lyrics on the Climax version and that may have made it suffer some. At the same time, it was probably more meaningful than the hit version. The simplification of things and the big production served the RB well in revamping it. I liked Bobby Sherman's "The Drum" for the happy feeling it gave. I still remember PAMS jingle company producing a set of jingles at that time called "Pop Tops". I wonder if writers got any money from these. These jingles were basically PAMS singers singing opening lyrics before the singing began on the actual record. They would have one line customized for a station that subscribed to the set. The one for Bobby's went (while the opening trumpet intro was rolling) "Come to Omaha, Beat the drum on K-O-I-L" and then right into Bobby's vocal, all in keeping with the song beat. Neat idea, but only lasted a couple of months. > I co-wrote "Flashback" with Artie in '73. I knew little of the > subsequent politics around the cuts, but I remember clearly the > creative collaborative experience. We were in my funky L.A. > apartment, I was playing the piano; & Artie was alternately > hovering & meditating as we tossed ideas back & forth. The > vibe was very intense, as we both drew upon our "lost love" > memories to mold verse lyrics strong enough to set up the > chorus explosion: "And I flashback! Back to the time you were > mine and we lived in a love song...." > I recall us struggling with the "curse of the second verse", > and Artie blowing my mind with his line "My cigarette has > burned down to my fingers, and it brings me back to now". As I have oft commented on here, "Flashback" is one of my Fave 5D tracks! Why it did not bring them back to the top 10 is one of many music mysteries. Thanks to Michael thom for playing Anka's version to Musica, but it could not hold a candle to the 5D. On your website, I saw you wrote "Easy Evil", but don't mention John Kay as one of the over 50 versions. To me, it is THE version I ever think of. They played that record to death around the midwest and it lasted for some 5 months around here. Reached #1 on KCRG in Cedar Rapids, Iowa ta boot. Once again, a great follow-up (to "I'm Movin' On") that got lost in the shuffle somehow. In 1971, I wrote a school paper reviewing Three Dog Night's "Naturally" in which I described "Heavy Church" as "the best good old rock 'n roll gospel song" on the LP. That album got played on the Besch turntables (I have 3 brothers) like crazy. Too bad they didn't lift the song for at least a "B" side to get you some more money. Our own SPopper, Alan Gordon, got his 3 Dog song "Celebrate" into stardom thru the group. "Angie baby" and "Train of Thought" were kinda strange songs for these artists, I thought. I hope you consider this a compliment, but some of your writing reminds me of some of the great 70s ideas for songs that Rupert Holmes came up with. His songs like "Morning Man", "The End" and "Him" seem like songs you could have come up with also. Did you ever write together? You should have! Recently, we were discussing the Lewis & Clarke expedition on Spop. I mentioned to someone that Boomer Castleman's 1975 hit, "Judy Mae", seemed like a cross between "Angie baby" and "The Night the Lights went Out in Georgia". Remember the song? It came out a year after "Angie baby". Wonder if your song influenced the writing of that hit. Lastly, you mentioned in an article that you recorded for a group called the Turtles in the pre-White Whale Turtles era (in other words, a different Turtles group). I think you said the 45 was on Dunhill? The B side was a PF Sloan song. Do you remember what song you recorded by him. He's a fave writer of many here. Get ready for a SPop barrage of greetings. To quote one of your songs....."Hear Them!" Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 12:13:04 -0800 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: Kingsmen vs. Scepter Clark Besch wrote: > Another thing that had to be good and bad was > the fact that the Kingsmen version of "Louie" > WOULD NOT DIE! The group, or at least their label, seems to have contributed to that fact as much as anyone else. How else to explain "Louie Louie 64-65-66"? That type of title -- the name of a past hit, followed by a date -- usually indicates a re-recording, for instance with Del Shannon's "Runaway '67," but in this case a buyer who thought he had a new version of a beloved classic would find nothing more than a straight reissue of that record. Another Kingsmen mystery involves the instrumental "Bent Scepter." I'd had this record for years, and assumed that its title was a dig at the parent company of their label, Wand, based on years of perceived injustices. But now, looking over their discography, I see that it was in fact only their second release under Florence Greenberg, the next one after "Louie." Did The Kingsmen feel she had engaged in some creative bookkeepping, or something along those lines? It might be telling that its topside was a cover of "Money." [UPDATE: Since writing the above, on Clark's recommendation I visited - While I haven't yet found the interview he mentioned, with Kingsmen drummer Billy Truett, coincidentally I did find a fascinating one with their original singer, Jack Ely. Included amid a slew of amazing stories -- among them the religious subtext of the group's name; watching Gary Lewis scrub floors with a toothbrush while both were in the Army; and the fact that Ely was the original lead singer of Don & The Goodtimes -- but also the likely answer to my own question: JE: We recorded "Louie, Louie" to be a hit, which it was, and we needed something that we wrote for the flip side. So we threw on this little ditty Don [Gallucci - keyboards] and I had been working on, just so we could get the writers’ royalties, which we never got (but that's another story). ... [Lynn Easton's] name was printed on the label for writing "Haunted Castle" and who knows whether or not he ever got any money. At the time of the recording, nobody in the band was affiliated with any organization. To my knowledge, The Kingsmen received one royalty check for "Louie, Louie" and the monies were so fragmented by all the comings and goings of personnel that there was hardly a cent for anyone.] Finally, at what point did The Kingsmen's contract migrate from Jerry Dennon to Florence Greenberg? Did she buy it outright from him at the time of "Louie"? If so, perhaps their complaint was something to do with that. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 10:29:11 -0700 From: Javed Jafri Subject: The Rascals Clark Besch: > I agree to some extent. Certainly, radio changed a lot of this too. > Formats got really tight in latter '67, and "old" groups were often > squeezed out by new artists. FM also got a large chunk of audience > and they tended to squeeze out the old AM artists. Funny thing is > that the '69 Rascals conformed to the FM sound of the day and also > to the "heavier" sound you allude to, and still didn't keep it > going! Yes starting in 67 The Rascals did go "hippie" and it would it would have been hard to confuse their look or sound to that of the teen pop idols of the early 60's. They were after all "Groovin" and "It's Wonderful" was a nice slice of psyche pop. Their garb was as love bead heavy as that of any band and their hair and beards were getting longer and longer. By the time of the 1971 double album "Peaceful World" (which was aimed squarely at the FM market) they had fully succumbed to peace, love and understanding vibe. In a way they made the transition a little more smoothly and successfully than the Beach Boys. Javed -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 17:13:53 -0400 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Leave it to whom? Frank M wrote: > Living in the UK I've never seen 'Leave it to Beaver' and > this week once again Spectropop provides some enlightenment. Welcome to the Foundation Of Babyboom Hood American Style! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 11:38:27 -0800 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: BW, JDS and PAD Peter Lerner wrote: > It doesn't seem to include Barry's sterling work as part of Jackie > DeShannon's backing band (also including Dr John) on the > adventurous "Laurel Canyon" album. A gig in which Barry is captured in all his glorious Nehru-jacketed splendor during Jackie's appearance (and chat) on Hugh Hefner's "Playboy After Dark" TV program. I believe Playboy's cable channel has rerun some of the PAD episodes, allowing the one featuring Jackie w/ Barry, along with many other exciting performances (including The Byrds post-Gram Parsons; Sir Douglas Quintet in their "Mendocino" phase; James Brown around the time of "World"; Marvin Gaye; Cowsills during their "IIxII" period; Grateful Dead, who were rarely televised at the time; Sonny & Cher at the dawn of their Vegas phase; etc., etc.), to gain new life in pass-around VHS form. Among other unique factors, all the musical acts on PAD played live, and as well many of the bookings were of acts not already on the typical music-on-TV treadmill of the day. Well worth seeking out. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 20:54:15 -0000 From: Rodney Rawlings Subject: Re: Looking for a memory possibly from 1961- 62 Here is the album info: LES-4038 - Collector's Records of the 50's & 60's, Volume 11 - Various Artists [1981] There's A Moon Out Tonight - Capris (M) Do You Know The Way To San Jose - Dionne Warwick (S) I Go To Pieces - Del Shannon (M) Believe Me - Skyliners (M) Santa Margarita - Belmonts (M) You Turned Me Over - Carlo (M) Light The Candles - Bobby Goldsboro (M) Richie - Gloria Dennis (M) Bounty Hunter - Nomads (M) Don't Pity Me - Dion & Belmonts (M) Groovy Girl - Waterproof Tinkertoy (M) Psychodelic Situations - Jimmy Curtiss (M) There's Nobody Else - Slim Jim (M) You're What's Happening Baby - Jimmy Curtiss (M) Child Of Clay - Jim Campbell (M) Let's Dance Close - Jimmy Curtiss (M) There are various sites where one can find more info on Laurie Records. Here's one: Rodney Rawlings -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 16:26:09 -0400 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Reach Out For Me; Kathy Kirby Howard Earnshaw: > The Kathy Kirby version was on an EP release here in the UK. > KK was a great vocalist who scored a few big hits in the UK with > her two biggest being a cover of Doris Day's "Secret Love" and a > vocal version of the Shadows song "Dance On." Here she was best known for "The Way Of Love". On Parrot as I recall. Kinda hystrionic but not a bad sentiment. JB -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 17:13:30 -0800 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: welcome AO'D Welcome, Mr. O'Day, and thanks for your vivid stories and recollections. From "Undercover Angel" to "Angie Baby" to Paul Anka to Arch Hall, Jr. (note: contents not in chronological order) -- who coulda thought such range possible?! In keeping more with the latter than either of the other three, I understand you've also been instrumental in the career of The Gamma Goochee (Himself). Care to elaborate for us? Dig, --Phil Milstein -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 14:19:47 -0800 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: Stigwood as "producer" Scott Swanson wrote: > Wasn't that pretty much the standard in the '60s? The "producer" was > oftentimes little more than the "money guy" (akin to modern day film > producers), while the engineers and musical directors did the actual > "producing" in the studio. I hear ya, Scott. Just to make my point clear, though, it was in the following company that Stigwood's name stuck out like a sore, unmusical thumb. Tony Hatch Joe Meek George Martin Shel Talmy Andrew Loog Oldham Mike Leander Mark Wirtz Ivor Raymonde Charles Blackwell Burt Bacharach Bert Berns By the way, I once saw a Phil Spector interview that went into some detail of his having coined the word "producer" (in the music recording context, that is), and quite deliberately so at that. Usually such terms occur more or less organically*, so I found it interesting that not only did the term get applied in this case so knowingly, but also that it was done so by the acknowledged master of the form. Best, --Phil M. *Another exception would be Jerry Wexler's coinage of "rhythm and blues." -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 22:57:06 -0000 From: Roy Clough Subject: Re: Kathy Kirby Phil M: > -- I don't know anything about Kathy Kirby, so wonder if > you could lay a few details down for us May give all info you need, Phil -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 16:39:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Re: John Denver with Mitchell 3 I interviewed Joe Frazier of the Trio about his days folk singing. He was an Episcopal minister in my hometown at that time. I was mainly interested in talking about Jim "Call me Roger" McGuinn since I'm a Byrds fan. However, he said in later years John Denver actually sought him out after he became a big star. He said John was not that prima donna people often become when they hit stardumb. Anyone know why the Karen Carpenter and John Denver medley of Comin' Through the Rye and Good Vibrations never made it stateside when the As Time Goes By CD hit over here. Hate to pay $30 for the Japanese CD for that one tune. Steve Harvey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 13:58:54 -0800 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: Stigwood; "Bedazzled" Dave Monroe wrote: > I have both the LP and the 45 ("Bedazzled" c/w "Love Me," > my best vinyl purchases ever, by the way), though not at hand, > but I believe Dudley Moore is listed as the sole composer. I've posted "Love Me" to my Probe site (link below). It's from a cassette, so please allow for a bit of muffle and distortion, but is still quite listenable, and while not quite as fun a record as "Bedazzled" (perhaps due to the absence of The Breakaways) remains a real strong track. Dig, --Phil M. new Cover Art Gallery: new posts: -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 16:44:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Jerr-E, Jerr-E . . . Kathy Kirby Simon White wrote: > I've been a closet Kathy fan since I was a kid - I realise > now it was the shiny lipstick that did it. Mr. Blavat actually played Kathy Kirby's "The Way of Love" during the lunch time show. Never heard her before. Steve Harvey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 19:53:01 -0400 From: Bob Kacerow Subject: late-period Rascals-Annie Sutton Phil M: > Did Annie Sutton ever record with The Rascals? Is her membership > in the group a well-known fact today, or has it slipped through > the cracks of history? I believe this was near the very end when they veered into jazz with Island of Real and Peaceful World when it was just down to Felix Cavilierre , Dino Dinelli, and Buzzy Feiten had just joined on lead guitar. Cheers, Bob K -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 23:52:38 EDT From: Bob Rashkow Subject: Re: In Arts I picked up In Arts 104 at Beverly Records last year, "Little Brother" by Stormie and Sunnie. Osborne doesn't list it as a collectible 45, but it's nice twee pop from '67, with sweet, if somewhat familiar harmonies. I'd never seen the label before, nice orange-yellow pastel design, out of Hollywood, Calif. if I'm not mistaken. Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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