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Spectropop - Digest Number 1910

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. More on The Ofarims
           From: Richard Havers 
      2. New Jeff Barry Yahoo Group
           From: Laura Pinto 
      3. Re: Claire Francis & Birmingham (UK) Groups
           From: philip hopson 
      4. Re: Collins working on King Records documentary film
           From: Phil X Milstein 
      5. Re: John Fred gone
           From: Dave Monroe 
      6. Re: John Fred gone
           From: Clark Besch 
      7. Re: Motown diction
           From: Phil Milstein 
      8. The Caslons from Noo Yawk; early Elton on musica; early John Fred on musica
           From: Country Paul 
      9. More Questions than answers?
           From: Ken Silverwood 
     10. RIP Jerry Byrd
           From: Country Paul 
     11. Re: John Fred gone
           From: Bob Radil 
     12. Re: Photo from Nashville
           From: Ed Salamon 
     13. Re: John Fred gone
           From: Irving Snodgrass 
     14. Follow-up: [Continental] Cousins, "Kana Kapila"
           From: Country Paul 
     15. Re: John Fred gone
           From: John DeAngelis 
     16. Re: Record shops
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     17. John Fred RIP; recommended record shops
           From: Richard Williams 
     18. Re: Seeco
           From: James Botticelli 
     19. Chiffons in stereo on CD
           From: Stefano 
     20. Re: "Judy In Disguise"
           From: Andrew C Jones 
     21. Re: Lou Johnson
           From: Robert Pingel 
     22. Re: "Judy In Disguise"
           From: Bobster 
     23. Re: Claire Francis & Birmingham (UK) groups
           From: Eddy Smit 
     24. Re: John Fred gone
           From: Einar Einarsson Kvaran 
     25. Re: Motown diction
           From: Chris Brame 

Message: 1 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:39:24 +0100 From: Richard Havers Subject: More on The Ofarims This repeats some of the excellent notes from Dr. Mark, but adds a little more..... Esther, formerly an actress, and Abi, a choreographer, married within a week of meeting each other in 1961. Born Esther Zaled on June 13th 1943 in Safed, just north of Galilee, Esther, and Abi, born Abraham Reichstadt, October 5th in Tel Aviv, had already had success in Europe before their two UK hits in 1968. In 1967 The Bee Gees song Morning of My Life had reached No.2 in Germany. In 1961, they were honoured at the Israeli festival, got a first prize in Poland the following year, and Esther came second representing Switzerland in the Eurovision song contest of 1963, In 1964 year the couple won The Grand Gala Disque in Holland. They also appeared with Frank Sinatra when he performed in Israel in 1962 and it’s said he gave them some help with their careers in the USA. In 1967, they won a top award in Rome and were nominated "The most beautiful singers in Switzerland". No doubt their appearances in different countries was made easier by the fact that they were fluent in French, English, German and Hebrew. The first performance of their No. 1, Cinderella Rockafella, cowritten by their friend Mason Williams, writer for the Smothers Brothers US TV show, was seen in Britain on the Eammon Andrews show well before being considered for single release. However, demand was such that Philips rushreleased it. Cinderella Rockafella knocked Manfred Mann's Mighty Quinn off the No. 1 spot, and the duos followup, One More Dance made No.13 in the UK; this had originally been recorded in Hebrew in the early 60's. They had a top ten album in the UK 2 in 3 in 1968, followed by the less successful Ofarim Concert Live '69, the following year. Esther later appeared on a Scott Walker Til The Band Comes In album, but further chart success eluded Esther and Abi. Israeli language students will have noted that Ofarim is Hebrew for Roe Deer, so if they had been of Latin extraction they may have been called Esther and Abi Eapreolus Capreolus. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:27:46 -0000 From: Laura Pinto Subject: New Jeff Barry Yahoo Group Hi Spectropoppers, I would like to take this opportunity to invite you all to check out my new Yahoo Group, Jeff Barry: The Man and His Music. This is the companion group to the official fan site of the same name. Discussion will focus on Jeff and his enormous body of work as producer and composer, as well as the various artists with whom Jeff has worked. To visit, click on this link: Thanks, Laura -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:13:34 +0100 (BST) From: philip hopson Subject: Re: Claire Francis & Birmingham (UK) Groups Austin Powell: > I believe another of the groups that came under the deal were > Giorgio and Marco's Men who released "Girl Without A Heart" > c/w "Run Run" on Polydor 56101 in 1966. Eddy: > The Giorgio (Moroder) & Marco's Men 45 was a Richard Hill > production with Johnny Hawkins as musical director. Both > have worked on Claire Francis productions, but at least on > the labels, there's no evidence Claire was involved here. It certainly wasn't Giorgio Moroder (Giorgio and Marco's Men). The group were Wolverhampton-based and their lead singer was Giorgio Uccellini. "Run run" was the a-side and Giorgio's brother, Marco, was also in the group - playing guiitar. Marco was the composer of the b-side: "Girl without a heart". Phil Hopson -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:34:40 -0400 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: Collins working on King Records documentary film Karen Andrew wrote: > Collins working on King Records documentary film Thanks for locating this article for us, Karen. It is very exciting news, and it is always cool when a star not only doesn't scorn his early work and associations, but becomes actively involved in their documentation. I only hope they get the financing that they need to do the job up right. I forwarded the article to a friend of mine, a documentary producer in S.F. who grew up in Cincinatti, a white Jewish kid obsessed (as so many white Jewish kids seem to have been!) with R&B. He used to hang around the King building, and later, as an adult, somehow wound up with James Brown's old desk from his King office. I got to see it once, even sit at it, and a magnificent thing it is: enormous, a circular shape, cut in half, with a "donut hole" where the chair goes. I hope he contacts Bootsy and gets that desk represented in the movie. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 17:42:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Monroe Subject: Re: John Fred gone This as I just picked up his "Hey Hey Bunny" 45. Have also long been spinning their take on "Hi-Heeled Sneakers" (I have it as the b-side of some picture-sleeved foreign pressing or another of "Shirley", I don't know how/where/when it was released here). JF&HPB must have had some sort of following in Spain, see, or, rather, hear also the cover of "HHB" by Los Gatos Negros, as well as "Judy con Difraz" by Los Salvajes (they also do a killer "Baby Come Back" ["Vuelve Baby"], among other things). There's also a crazed version of "JID" performed by a (perhaps fictional) punk band in Alex de la Iglesias' Acción mutante (1993), but there was no OST release, and I can't locate who might have recorded it. But the film is out on DVD. Dave Monroe -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 01:02:11 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Re: John Fred gone I won't say that "Judy In Disguise" has any great meaning in it, that it is the love song that "Happy Together" is, but to me it is a great record! I could play it as much as I play "Happy Together"! Both are two of the few I hear on oldies radio that I never get tired of. I love "Hey Hey Bunny" too! John, you are missed (with glasses!). Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 03:01:10 -0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: Motown diction Chris Brame wrote: > Like when Mary Wells sang "... and axed me to be yours"? What song is that in? --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 01:33:09 -0400 From: Country Paul Subject: The Caslons from Noo Yawk; early Elton on musica; early John Fred on musica Phil M: > Were a case of "dropped diction" to have occurred on an > important side, I trust that Berry's Q.C. would've kicked > into gear and done whatever was needed to smooth out the > rough edges, but for a mere B-side or album cut, no such > expenditure was necessary. JB: > It's like Toni Wine's "My Boyfriend's Coming Home For Christmas" > on Colpix. During the piano solo in the middle she sobbingly > talks about how "hawd" it is to be without him. Brooklyn ain't > backwoods but it sure is distinguishable. Noo Yawk accents are so much fun. The Wuhst Brooklyn Accent Awawd to my ears goes to the lead singer of The Caslons ("Anniversary of Love"/"The Quiet One," Seeco 6078, autumn 1961, low-charted nationally but as high as #28 on WABC) who comes close to (but in all honesty doesn't actually arrive at) that old clichéd "toidy-toid 'n' toid" Brooklyn enunciation. The hit side is a great uptempo late doo-wop, written by Stallman-Jacobson; "The Kwoy-it One" is a pretty ballad. Both sides are almost undone by the unintentional humor of that accent. (Interesting that Seeco was almost exclusively a Latin music label; this record was an anomaly for them.) Dave Marheine: > GO OUT AND GET IT (John Martyn) Wow! "Early" and first-hits-era Elton John are my favorites, before he got overly slick and image-ridden. This track is delicious, and Linda Peters [Thompson] makes no small contribution. Thank you, Eddy, for the play to musica. (I think I've got to join ....) Previously, re: John Fred: > "Judy In Disguise" was recorded in New > Orleans with the Fats Domino band ... Not quite. He had a regional New Orleans hit in 1959 called "Shirley" (Montel 1002) which featured Fats' band; he was 16 at the time. From The Advocate, a Louisiana newspaper - : "[John Fred] Gourrier recorded 'Shirley' at Cosimo Matassa's studio in New Orleans, where Fats Domino, Little Richard, Huey 'Piano' Smith and many others had cut their national hits. 'Shirley,' produced by fruit salesman-turned music entrepreneur S.J. Montalbano, was a hit in various regional markets, including New York City. The song got Gourrier, then a 16-year-old Catholic High student, a spot on Alan Freed's New York TV show." I've taken the liberty of playing "Shirley" to musica in tribute to a man who was much more than a one-hit wonder. Get ready to rock.... Short takes: You UK folks have me achingly curious about the "Chicken [Pay]Back." Sounds like you're having way too much fun with this one! As an old radio guy, I can attest to "The Buckle Up" song being a PSA from, I believe, The National Safety Council, available to all broadcast outlets. Country Paul (now actually caught up!) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:06:01 +0100 From: Ken Silverwood Subject: More Questions than answers? Richard Williams: > Had Lou Johnson, to take a Spectropop favourite, been able > to negotiate such a such a deal with Big Top, then we might > be able to buy his great original versions of various > Bacharach-David songs on CD today. So why are they not? Have any not slipped through onto Bacharach compilations? While were at it, I have never seen Dean Barlow's "Third Window From The Right" comp. Bacharach/David anywhere legit. It never got a release in UK what year & label was it in USA? Listening to various versions of Lee Pockriss' "House Without Windows" by Pitney, Cliff R, Orbison, Peterson with so many varied treatments I was suprised to see it never charted, although I only have Ray's as a 45 the others are album tracks. I suppose my question is why did no one else release it as a single? In 1965 The Merseybeats brought out a single " Last Night I Made A Little Girl Cry" I notice that Steve Lawrence also had a release of that title that year. I presume it's the same song, is it available anywhere? Ken On The West Coast? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:39:15 -0400 From: Country Paul Subject: RIP Jerry Byrd Another RIP - they're coming too thick and fast: Jerry Byrd died in Hawaii last Thursday. He was in his 70s, and was a long-time resident of Hawaii. He played steel guitar on tons of 50s-60s Nashville sessions, and had a hit 45 with an instrumental version of Roy Orbison's "Memories of Maria" on Monument. (I've never heard a vocal version of this; is there one to be found?) Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:54:19 -0000 From: Bob Radil Subject: Re: John Fred gone Gary Myers wrote: > John Fred dead at 63 Tom Taber: > Sad news - "Shirley," "Judy," and "Hey Hey Bunny" are all > time favorites for me ("Judy in Disguise" is the only song > I know where I sometimes sing along to the bass quitar part > for the whole record!) The "Agnes English" lp is very good, > and contains a version of Spectropop favorite "No Good to Cry." They also did "No Good to Cry"? I knew of remakes by The Allman Bros. and the Poppy Family. That'd pretty good since the original Wildweeds' version only got to #87 on Billboard although a mega-hit here in the northeast. In Hartford it was #1 on this date in 1967. Is the John Fred version postable to Musica? Bob Radil -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:37:46 -0000 From: Ed Salamon Subject: Re: Photo from Nashville Joe Nelson wrote: > Just out of curiousity, just below the gold record on the > wall between Austin and Larry it looks like the top of another > head peaking out (almost looks like Michael Jackson). Any idea > who or what that is? It's Elvis. When Elvis died, WHN was the first radio station (maybe company of any kind) to get permission use Elvis' name and likeness in advertising. We did a series of subway posters, of which mini versions are on display in my den. Ed Salamon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:41:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Irving Snodgrass Subject: Re: John Fred gone I played the heck out of that tune ["Judy In Disguise"] as a dj at WSSB in Durham, NC back then. Seems like his father was a famous athlete as I recall. Does anyone know? Ken in Michigan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:39:37 -0400 From: Country Paul Subject: Follow-up: [Continental] Cousins, "Kana Kapila" Despite the speed of the internet, sometimes you just have to wait for answers. A while back I'd asked if anyone knew what "Kana Kapila" meant; today, I received my answer from Michael Keene, who hosts a Hawaiian music show of the same name (actually "Kani Ka Pila") on KVMR, Virginia City, CA ( He writes: "'Kani ka pila' means 'Lets play music' or more specifically 'Let's play musical instruments.' There have been albums with 'Kani ka pila' in the title, the most well known is by the Maile Serenaders, circa 1960. It's all guitar, ukuleles and bass. By the way, can be 'live' streamed on most computers." Their full program schedule is also posted on their website, and it looks like quite the interesting radio station. In addition to Michael's comments, I found the following info, including that the Cousins were around for years, with roots in The Shadows' style: - Lyrics here: - Discography here: - Bio here: If you missed hearing the song and would like to, e-mail me off-list. Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:57:45 -0000 From: John DeAngelis Subject: Re: John Fred gone Tom Taber wrote: > I'm pretty sure that it was "Shirley" not "Judy in Disguise" > that was recorded with Fats Domino's band ... Makes sense to me. The band on "Judy" sound nothing like Fats' band to my ears. John DeAngelis -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:38:32 -0400 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: Record shops James Botticelli wrote: > In Boston my faves are: In Your Ear (Allston Store) > Looney Tunes (two locations, Boston and Cambridge) > Both have tons of vinyl which to me is huge. I second Jimmy's nominations for Boston vinyl-hunting. Twisted Village, in Harvard Square, also has good some stuff, although a smaller selection. > Also got an ad magazine from Nina's in PA. The > Cameo-Parkway CD set is available there for $49.00. I believe Nina's is, for better or worse, the mail-order division of the Collectables label. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:01:53 +0100 From: Richard Williams Subject: John Fred RIP; recommended record shops 1. While "Judy in Disguise" was and is wonderful, I always had a particular fondness for another John Fred 45, the equally danceable "Hey Hey Bunny", which I think was the follow-up to "Judy". 2. Some recommendations for wayfaring strangers: Windows in the Arcade, Newcastle upon Tyne, UK Rockit Scientist, Greenwich Village, NYC, USA Bleecker Street Records, Greenwich Village, NYC, USA Disk Union, Shinjuku, Tokyo, Japan Lale Plak, Beyoglu, Istanbul, Turkey Raoul's Records, St Kilda, Melbourne, Australia 78 Records, Perth, Australia Clerkenwell Music, London EC1, UK Selecta Disc branches in Nottingham, UK, and London W1, UK Ray's Jazz & Blues Shop at Foyle's, London WC2, UK Honest Jon's, Portobello Road, Notting Hill, London W11 Richard Williams -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:02:49 -0400 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Seeco Country Paul wrote: > Interesting that Seeco was almost exclusively a > Latin music label; this record was an anomaly > for them. I recently foung a VG+ "Felicia" by Bobby & The Orbits, also on Seeco! Were they from the East L.A. Chicano Rock school of playing? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:06:53 -0700 From: Stefano Subject: Chiffons in stereo on CD I know there are several Chiffons compilations on CD right now, but does anyone know which of them (if any) has the tracks in true stereo? I have a great stereo version of "I Have a Boyfriend", and I'd like to hear some others (besides the main hits) that way. Was a stereo mix ever made of "What Am I Gonna Do With You (Hey Baby)"? That would be wonderful. Thanks, Stefano -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:55:13 -0400 From: Andrew C Jones Subject: Re: "Judy In Disguise" Phil M. asked: > Did the line about the "living bra" make it through intact > in all radio copies? How 'bout the orgasmic moaning on > the break? Whenever our radio station in Upper Michigan played it, it had everything -- moans, "living bra" and all. At the time the song was a hit, I (then a small boy) was sharing a bedroom with my brothers (both teenagers), and there were a couple of nights when they insisted on shouting the song's title to one another. One would shout "Judy in disguise!", long pause, then the other would fire back, "with glasses!" ... while kid brother was trying to SLEEP! But I didn't dare say anything. >From the posts here, though, it seems Mr. Fred was more than a one-hit wonder, and I'll have to check out his other stuff now. ACJ "Optimism works. It is more useful than pessimism." - E.Y. Harburg -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:51:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pingel Subject: Re: Lou Johnson Richard Williams: > Had Lou Johnson, to take a Spectropop favourite, been > able to negotiate such a such a deal with Big Top, then > we might be able to buy his great original versions of > various Bacharach-David songs on CD today. All of the Lou Johnson releases on Big Top and Big Hill have been released on a CD titled "Sweet Southern Soul", except for "The Last One To Be Loved" and "Kentucky Bluebird". The latter two can be found on Bacharach's "Look of Love" anthology. Rob Pingel -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:06:39 EDT From: Bobster Subject: Re: "Judy In Disguise" I'm pretty sure Super CFL in the Windy City did play the moaning on the break of "JID" when the record was Top Ten (1/68). Not sure if they played the lyric, "... Cross your heart / With your livin' bra...". The 45 I once had included both. Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:45:06 +0200 From: Eddy Smit Subject: Re: Claire Francis & Birmingham (UK) groups Philip Hopson wrote: > It certainly wasn't Giorgio Moroder (Giorgio and Marco's Men). The disc is included in a very comprehensive Giorgio Moroder discography I saw, where they list it as his very first release. Although they do admit it doesn't sound very Moroder-like. Eddy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:20:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Einar Einarsson Kvaran Subject: Re: John Fred gone Steve Harvey wrote: > I bought the Playboys CD just to hear their take on > "Sometimes You Just Can't Win" Years ago (can I say "decades ago" here?) I got the John Fred and Boys album while visiting a friend in Washington DC, largely in order to hear what his version of Moby Grape's "Can't Be So Bad" was like. The airlines LOST my suitcase on the way home and I never did get to hear it! Any verdicts? Einar -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 05:22:33 -0000 From: Chris Brame Subject: Re: Motown diction Chris Brame wrote: > Like when Mary Wells sang "... and axed me to be yours"? Phil M. asked: > What song is that in? "You Beat Me to the Punch". She does say "... and asked me my name" in the first verse, though. - Chris -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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