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Spectropop - Digest Number 1887

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There are 21 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. New @ S'pop: Terry Melcher
           From: S'pop HQ 
      2. Re: Bob Crewe productions
           From: Al Kooper 
      3. The sex appeal of paleness; Chris Clark´s compilation; Lou Christie picture, etc.
           From: Julio Niño 
      4. Re: Goffin & King's "Easy To Love"
           From: Don H 
      5. Re: The Parkas
           From: James Botticelli 
      6. CD Reissues
           From: George Schowerer 
      7. Mystery Girl Group Tracks
           From: Stefano 
      8. Wadsworth Mansion
           From: Bob Rashkow 
      9. The 4 Seasons' "Dawn", etc
           From: George Schowerer 
     10. "Everlasting" Dinner
           From: Austin Roberts 
     11. 6Ts 45s
           From: James Botticelli 
     12. Re: Lou Christie photo
           From: Anthony Arena 
     13. Re: The 4 Seasons on CD
           From: George Schowerer 
     14. Steve Tudanger
           From: Mike Rashkow 
     15. Re: Sparring with the Hits (Kenny Hamber)
           From: Hans Huss 
     16. Tery Black
           From: Jim Fisher 
     17. Re: Bob Crewe productions
           From: George Schowerer 
     18. Sparing The Hits
           From: Paul Urbahns 
     19. Re: Oldies Station Versions
           From: Austin Roberts 
     20. Re: Lou Christie photo
           From: Laura Pinto 
     21. Re: April updates
           From: Phil X Milstein 

Message: 1 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 23:58:28 +0100 From: S'pop HQ Subject: New @ S'pop: Terry Melcher After many months of hard toil, Martin Roberts has completed work on a brand new addition to his Jack Nitzsche @ Spectropop pages, "The Producers: Terry Melcher", the first in a series of feature articles which focus on the session directors with whom Nitzsche most frequently worked. Access here: "The Producers: Terry Melcher" is itself divided into eight separate parts: Part 1 - Introduction: Part 2 - Al Hazan: Part 3 - The Rip Chords and Eddie Hodges: Part 4 - Frankie Laine: Part 5 - Doris Day and Gentle Soul: Part 6 - Carol Kaye: Part 7 - Harvey Kubernik: Part 8 - Melcher/Nitzsche Discography: Enjoy, The S'pop Team -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:18:05 -0500 From: Al Kooper Subject: Re: Bob Crewe productions Geprge Schowerer wrote: > Gentlemen: I am the engineer on much of the Seasons and Valli's > sessions. When Rhino put out the "Silver anniv." multiple disc set, > I called Rhino to complain about the distortion present on many of > the tracks. I have no idea what tape they used, but I can guarantee > you that they didn't leave Mirasound studios sounding like that. I have read replies from George before in S'pop, but could not recall meeting or working with him. I have been close to Charlie Calello since 1966, when he arranged a song I wrote called "Stormy" for the wonderful 4 Evers. Charlie and I became a team on my first solo album "I Stand Alone" in 1968, and pretty much worked together until 1995 including stints with Michael Mann, John Waters, and Ray Charles. George's name, to the best of my knowledge, had never come up. So when I saw the latter post, I forwarded it to Charlie and asked about the validity of his claims. Here is Charlie Calello's reply re: engineers on Four Season and Frankie Valli records. Charlie, as most of you recall, was the lone arranger on 90% of those sessions: "When we worked at Stea-Phillips (all the early hits) it was Gordon Clark, when we went to Atlantic and recorded "Dawn" it was Tom Dowd, we then moved to Olmstead on 40th St. and it was Bill McMeekin. "Rag Doll" was recorded at the demo studio Allegro. "Can't Take My Eyes Off You" was recorded at MiraSound and I don't remember who the engineer was." I hope this sets the record straight, and I'm sure George did not intentionally mean to take credit away from the above hard workers. Al Kooper -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 16:33:09 -0000 From: Julio Niño Subject: The sex appeal of paleness; Chris Clark´s compilation; Lou Christie picture, etc. Hola Everybody. I´m back in Madrid, after spending some days in Barcelona. My boyfriend got intoxicated after eating some dubious shellfish, he looked spectacularly ill, deadly pale and with enormous black rings under his eyes. I found it very sexy. I´d always heard that shellfish could be an aphrodisiac, but I´ve never imagined it that way. This fact brought to my mind some songs that celebrate the sex appeal of paleness, like Mina´s "Tintarella Di Luna" (dyed by the moon), or my favorite, "Rubia" (blonde), by Spanish yeyé singer Lita Torrelló (there´s another version of the song by preteen Alicia Granados), in which she sings that she want to be blonde and pale, and so she only goes to the beach by night and she only drinks milk. Of course, coming from a racial Spanish girl, that wish has some hilarious connotations, just imagine let´s say Diana Ross (or perhaps Michael Jackson) singing it, and you´ll get the idea. I could play it in musica, if a certain magician feels like shaking again his magic stick. In Barcelona, I took a quick walk on the oldies record shops west of Las Ramblas, but I didn´t find much. When I don´t find anything that convinces me I always feel empty and desperate. Finally I found the recent compilation of Chris Clark´s songs, I bought it and that calmed me down. The first CD of the collection contains released masters, and the second previously unreleased tracks. In my opinion some of the unreleased songs are superior than the released ones. My favorites are the tracks recorded from 1965 until 1967, like "Something´s Wrong", "Ask Any Girl", "I Just Can Forget Him", and others. Changing the subject. when I returned back home, I found some new things in Spectroland. A new look in the homepage of Yahoo Groups; new songs in musica: my favorite is "Don´t Mention My Name" by The Shepherd Sisters; and the very surprising ,"carefully posed", as Mick says, photo of Lou Christie. He looks like a tempting (a little hypertricotic to my taste) faun. Is it an authentic picture or a mischievous Photoshop work? I´m gonna clean my flat, like a furious chacha (chacha in Spanish means maid, so Sheila´s magazine has a curious additional meaning in Spanish). Chao. Julio Niño. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 02:03:43 -0000 From: Don H Subject: Re: Goffin & King's "Easy To Love" Robert Pingel wrote: > "Easy to Love" is one of those great, somewhat obscure, Goffin-King > songs. The Chiffons did a terrific job with it. There's also an > excellent version by Skeeter Davis that could have been a > contender. Would love to know if there were any other covers. Those are the only two I know of. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:53:12 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: The Parkas I mentioned: > The Parkas - Back At The Lodge - MGM label's obvious attempt to be > the "Winter" Beach Boys) Chris: > This I'd like to hear (musica?) - how close do they get to the Beach > Boys sound? Writer/producer/B side? I don't know how to post to Musica. If someone wants to let me know privately I'll give it a shot. They don't come close at all to the Beach Boys sound. More like their spirit... -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 19:48:18 -0800 (PST) From: George Schowerer Subject: CD Reissues Billy: One of the major problems with re-issues is that no thought is given toward having the people originally involved with the release ... and not asked to be part of the re-recording. The result so often is that they add equalization and stuff not of the original. The worse case example of this is the first cd release of the group "Bread". The cd doesn't even sound close to the lp ... it's as if it was a completely separate session ... horrible. They didn't even take the time to listen to the lp ... and therefore had no clue as to what made the record a hit in the first place. As for the Crewe stuff ... we would complete the mix at Allegro or Mirasound, and Bob would take the dam tape to Bell Sound where they would add everything you could think of ... sometimes echo, sometimes eq. I must get out some safeties of the original mixes from Bob's sessions, which included Mitch Ryder, Frankie Valli and the Seasons, and Freddie Cannon. I can assure you that they are pristine, as I had related to the Ace re-issue of Frankie (with the green cover) ... it does accurately reflect what we arrived at in the studio ... and without the Rhino "touch" that turned it into trashy, distorted mixes. In many cases, these older sessions were trashed by the updating, and there is NO excuse for those examples. Even the first Simon and Garfunkel cd's suffered those problems. I compared the cd to my 15ips safety and got sick ... then called Roy Halle, their original engineer to alert him to the terrible transfers ... bottom line is that S & G took Roy back into the studio to properly transfer their material to cd ... but there have been even further transfers done since then that are less than great. It's a sad commentary for the money hungry record associations who think your pockets should be picked ... continuously. Regards, George Schowerer -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 22:54:30 -0800 From: Stefano Subject: Mystery Girl Group Tracks Hi All, I'm new to this group, and have enjoyed looking through the archived posts. I have a couple audio cassettes that were given to me by a friend about 16-17 years ago, of various girl group flip sides and rare tracks. I have long since lost the listing of tracks, and have been trying to figure out who sings them, by researching song titles, artists, etc online. Does anyone know which artists sing these two? I don't know the correct titles, but they are: "Oh what a night, it was love at first sight" (really nice, upbeat ballad with sha-la-la's in the background) "I Wonder Why He's Watching Me" I'd appreciate any help. Thanks- Stefano -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:55:58 EST From: Bob Rashkow Subject: Wadsworth Mansion Country Paul on Wadsworth Mansion: > ... to see this scruffy bunch of Rhode Island hippies ... handle > the vocals of "Michigan Harry Slaughter" live ... I'm sitting on their 1971 LP. What am I waiting for other than that I have about 30 CD comps and about 7 other LPs yet to spin? Until I read Fuzz, Acid and Flowers from cover to cover, I had forgotten about their delightful "slightly vaudevill-y" follow-up to "Sweet Mary". I can't wait to play MHS because I haven't heard that song since it was released! I remember thinking "This one isn't gonna make it, this one isn't gonna make it..." And, unfortunately, I was right! Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:02:17 -0800 (PST) From: George Schowerer Subject: The 4 Seasons' "Dawn", etc Bob Radil > I've noticed that CD distortion also. It seems to be mostly on the > early Phillips stuff, "Ronnie" in particular. The VeeJay stuff > sounds quite good. I would have thought that it would be the other > way around. I'll have to pull out my Private Stock Greatest Hits > LP and give it a close listen when I get a chance. Who owns the > original masters? I was under the impression that they are owned by > Frankie Valli and Bob Gaudio. Would it be their responsibility to > keep those tapes properly stored? Also, do you know if "Ronnie" and > the single version of "Dawn" were ever mixed for stereo? Thanks > for coming on board. I'm sure to have more questions. The 4 Seasons > were among my favorites back in the day. "Dawn" was done at Stea=Phillips studios by either Gordon Clark or Lenny Stea (I think, during the time I was in the Army). Crewe always took my mixes to be cut to disc at Bell Sound. He usually didn't take the original, 8 or 16 track reels...I dunno. Mirasound went belly up and I never found out who got the tapes after that. Allegro got bought out by Laurie Records. I also have no idea where those tapes went. At Allegro, there were tons of demos I did with Carole King/ Goffin and Neil Sedaka (I would love to have a copy of some of those but never had the have them today and add stuff they never would have.... Also the Tokens, Chiffons, Mickey & Sylia (and later Kitty was his partner) Freddie Cannon, and The Rays all had their masters filed with us. Have no idea where they are...I know the studios after a while, ran out of storage space and asked the clients to please pickup whatever they had filed with us. Regards, George Schowerer -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 15:29:36 -0500 From: Austin Roberts Subject: "Everlasting" Dinner Bob Rashkow: > I just want to thank everybody who responded to my query! I had no > idea there were so many cover versions of "Everlasting Love." There > seems to be a "Jones" for that tune, considering that Glenn, Howard > (his "variation") and even Bridget got into the act :--)) Thanks folks, I'm having dinner with Buzz Cason in a few days, and now that I know how many covers (many were hits) of Everlasting Love he's had, He's Paying! Austin Roberts -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 13:47:39 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: 6Ts 45s I wrote: > They are out there in droves...recently I found...(6Ts 45s) Bobster: > Jimmy, you are truly blessed. You now have four of the greatest > recordings ever produced: The Guise, The Love-Ins ("Red Light- > Green Light"), The Steeple People (both records) and The E-Types > ("She Moves Me").  I only possess the E-Types 45, which I purchased > in 1978 at Flat, Black and Circular in East Lansing, Michigan of > all places (the group was out of Northern California). I'm as green > as The Green Beats!  Boston is a pretty good place for vinyl. Most of the used record stores are run by middle aged white guys who grew up in the 60's. I feel fortunate too when I see the prices on the internet for this stuff. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:46:10 -0800 (PST) From: Anthony Arena Subject: Re: Lou Christie photo Mick Patrick wrote: > And talking of members on display (:-0), the more investigative > among you might have already gawped at the latest addition to the > photos section, a carefully posed shot of Sheila's current > heartthrob, the incredibly talented, impressively flexible and > furry bottomed Mr Lou Christie. It's worth a glance: > Rob wrote: > I'd venture a good guess that this shot was taken as promotion for > the "Paint America Love" LP (1971), since those very words are > painted on his body. And, yes, QUITE an amazing pic, by the way. Yes, Rob's correct. The photo's astonishing. It's the kind of promo- shot a top male music star only would've used back in the 1970s when male nudity was the new cool and hip thing. Lou wasn't the only big star to drop trou for promo photos in those days. We know all about the John Lennon, David Cassidy, Fabian, and Iggy Pop full-nudity from the 1970s. But I never knew about Lou Christie until now. It would be interesting to learn who else tried it as a promotional idea. Anybody have a list? Nowadays most male vocalists are too modest for their own good. Clearly, Lou Christie had nothing to be modest about back then. His physique was extrordinary and impressive. And you know what else? Lou Christie ala' au-naturale, was indeed all-natural! - There were no steriods back in those days either, ya know. Helloooo, calling Mark McGuire?! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 20:09:06 -0800 (PST) From: George Schowerer Subject: Re: The 4 Seasons on CD Anthony: At present, I only have the Ace "Solo" double album with Frankie. I'm delighted to find out from you that there are a group of them ... I'll have to keep my eyes open for the others. My comment about the Ace album was that the transfers were clean, clear, and undistorted. However, not that many songs from that album are duplicated with the 25th Anniversary Rhino release ... but I will see if I can directly compare any particular numbers for you. If I'm successful in getting some of the others from Ace, I'll gladly do comparisons for you. Regards, George Schowerer -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 19:22:58 EST From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Steve Tudanger Al Kooper mentioned Steve Tudanger's group the $ Evers: > ... a song I wrote called "Stormy" for the wonderful 4 Evers. Coincidentally, I had a nice long telephone conversation with Steve Tudanger today--he is in good spirits and he says his health is no worse :--))--and that reports of his demise are premature. He has a very positive attitude for a guy who has had a lot of bad luck. His eyesite isn't good enough to do computer, but in the past I have sent him blown up copies of things about him on S'pop, which he can read. He asked me to tell the group that he is "glad that he is fondly remembered"--actually he said he was glad he was remembered at all. Many very talented people do not get the accolades or rewards they might deserve, Steve, IMHO is one of those people. His song, "Let me Be Forever", which an old friend and I produced with The Definitive Rock Chorale, was later cut by Steve Feldman and Tudie told me it went to #1 in various South American markets. I called him because I happened across a 1977 solo release by him on GEMM. It was out on Big Tree and was produced by Ellie Greenwich. The title escapes me for the moment--something about Rhythm, but I bought it just to check it out. Steve said it was a pretty nice record. If it is obscure enough and if I am allowed, I will try to post it to musica. Di la, Rashkovsky -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:28:58 -0800 (PST) From: Hans Huss Subject: Re: Sparring with the Hits (Kenny Hamber) Country Paul: > Is this the same label that had Kenny Hamber (with David > Robertson's combo) doing "Tears In My Eyes"? [...] Delightfully > atrocious! (And oddly enough, Kenny Hamber actually recorded again > on a real label, Kapp.) A different SPAR label entirely, tiny but real, owned by Baltimore radio jock Bill “Sparky” Mullen (WSID). The primitive-sounding ‘Tears In My Eyes’ (Spar 101) was subsequently re-recorded in New York (with King Curtis amongst the backing musicians) and released on Spar’s sister label Zenette in the following year (1961). Kenny Hamber, who is active to this day, I think, never recorded for Kapp, but had great releases on De Jac and Arctic in the 1960s, on ABC (as a member of the Hitchhikers) in 1973, and more recently on his own MCK label, the albums “This Is R&B” (1996) and “In A Romantic Mood” (2001). His ‘Anything You Want’ (Arctic 131), composed by Kenny Gamble, is simply one of the finest singles in soul music -- think ‘Open The Door To Your Heart’, Philly-style -- and deservedly much sought after on the Northern Soul scene. The complete Kenny Hamber story may be found at Blues Art Story Journal’s website: Hasse Huss P.S. If anyone has a copy of Kenny Hamber’s ‘Camel Walk’ (Mean 200) to trade or sell, please contact me off-list. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:32:12 -0800 From: Jim Fisher Subject: Tery Black Terry also did a track "Moondust" on the Bill Murray flik "Meatballs" soundtrack, it's not too bad at all, romantic melodic ballad that seemed a bit out of place in that wacky kind of movie. Worth checking out for some Mood Music..(I think the movie was shot in Canada too.) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:08:41 -0800 (PST) From: George Schowerer Subject: Re: Bob Crewe productions Steve Crump wrote: > George, were you involved with Bob and the song "An Angel Is Love" > from "Barbarella"? It's a great song and one of my favourites. Unfortunately, I was not involved with his Barbarella recording. Regards, George -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:50:10 +0000 From: Paul Urbahns Subject: Sparing The Hits Country Paul asks: > Is this the same label that had Kenny Hamber (with David > Robertson's combo) doing "Tears In My Eyes" / "Do The Hullyu Gully"? The Hit Paul answers: No, Like there was more than one Hit label, there was also another Spar label. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 20:40:02 -0500 From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: Oldies Station Versions Speaking of 'odd' splices on past records, I've always been curious about the strange `splice' in Tommy James' Crimson And Clover where it goes from one sound to an entirely different one by, what seemed to be a `strange splice'. Oh well; just one ear's opinion. Austin Roberts -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 23:51:20 -0000 From: Laura Pinto Subject: Re: Lou Christie photo Rob wrote: > I'd venture a good guess that [the Lou Christie photo] was taken as > promotion for the "Paint America Love" LP (1971), since those very > words are painted on his body. And, yes, QUITE an amazing pic, by > the way. Hi Rob and all, It appears that way, according to the eBay description! Check it out: Laura -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 18:33:27 -0800 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: April updates Mike Dugo wrote: > Here's a quick note to inform everybody that the April updates to > have now been posted. This month we > feature interviews with Jerry Chandler of Four More ("Problem > Child"), Robert Allen of The Sundown Collection (Happening '68 > competitors), and Ron Bowell of Friar Tuck & The Monks, who > recorded a unique cover of The Beatles' "Help" in 1969. Any chance that's the same Friar Tuck as per the Mercury LP "Friar Tuck & His Psychedelic Guitar"? I imagine not, as the latter (from c.1967) was the brainchild of Curt Boettcher and (primarily) guitarist Mike Deasy, but now you've got me curious if the unfortunately-named Mr. Bowell wasn't also involved. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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