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Spectropop - Digest Number 1864



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There are 24 messages in this issue.


Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: The Austin Roberts
           From: Mikey 
      2. Help needed--again.
           From: Mike Rashkow 
      3. Le Beat Bespoke
           From: Lobby 
      4. Searching For an Obscure Song
           From: Martin Nathan 
      5. Re: "Come On Down To My Boat"
           From: Phil X Milstein 
      6. Re: Bob Johnston
           From: George Schowerer 
      7. Re: The Cowsills' "We Can Fly"
           From: Frank J. 
      8. Re: The Cowsills' "We Can Fly"
           From: Robert Pingel 
      9. Austin Roberts: Mary And Me
           From: Joe Nelson 
     10. Re: The Austin Roberts
           From: Orion 
     11. Re: RIP Martin Denny
           From: Einar Einarsson Kvaran 
     12. Re: Byrds vs Searchers
           From: Roy Clough 
     13. Re: Byrds vs Searchers
           From: Mikey 
     14. Re: "Sugar & Spice" rememberances
           From: Roy Clough 
     15. Re: Rare Breed "Come On Down To My Boat"
           From: Matthew David 
     16. Lou Christie fans??
           From: Stewart Epstein 
     17. Re: "The Twelfth OF Never" in Musica.
           From: Einar Einarsson Kvaran 
     18. Re: Searchers' "Sugar & Spice"
           From: Einar Einarsson Kvaran 
     19. Re: Bob Johnston
           From: Einar Einarsson Kvaran 
     20. Re: Clydie King
           From: Will Stos 
     21. Re: Rare Breed/"Come On Down To My Boat"
           From: Howard 
     22. Jimmy Webb
           From: Andy 
     23. Re: The Cameo Parkway Story (1957-1967)
           From: Hans Huss 
     24. Re: Whistling Jack Smith
           From: Richard Havers 


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Message: 1 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:45:42 -0500 From: Mikey Subject: Re: The Austin Roberts Austin: > I liked "One Word" too, and The Grassroots cut a good version > of it. After "Something's Wrong With Me" and "Keep On Singing," > I didn't have another hit with Chelsea Records, although "One > Word" went over well in concert. Austin, While you were on Chelsea, Wayne Newton was there too, and made some excellent records like "Pour Me A Little Wine". Did you ever get a chance to talk to Wayne during this period? Waynes stuff on Chelsea was really good. The only one people remember is "Daddy Dont You Walk So Fast", but his other songs were almost as good. Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:00:33 EST From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Help needed--again. I once again call on the membership for assistance. Needing a clean copy of "Dany's Theme" which was the B side of "Hello Goodbye" as performed? by Genevieve Gilles on 20th Century. Anyone? Please contact me off-list. Thanks to those good people who provided me with the Hardy Boys and Steve Tudanger items--much appreciated. Di la, Rashkovsky -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 12:32:39 -0000 From: Lobby Subject: Le Beat Bespoke Just a quick reminder that this great event in London is barely a couple of weeks away! Featuring Love + the Chocolate Watch Band and The Yardbirds and host of other 60's influenced bands. Thanks. Lobby NEW UNTOUCHABLES PRESENT LE BEAT BESPOKE AT THE ROCKET LONDON 166 HOLLOWAY ROAD (TUBE), LONDON, N7 8DB 25/26/27 MARCH 2005 EASTER WEEKEND A 3 DAY FEAST OF FUN, FUZZ & FULL ON PARTYING IN THE CITY OF SIN!!! WITH GARAGE GROOVERS, BIG BOSS BEAT, RAUCOUS R&B, RAUNCHY ROCK N ROLL, FAR OUT FREAKBEAT, SOUL SHAKERS & GROOVY PSYCHEDELIC SOUNDS FROM DJS AROUND THE GLOBE FRIDAY 25TH 8PM-4AM BRITISH R&B WITH YARDBIRDS+NINE BELOW ZERO+LONG TALL SHORTY + 3 ROOMS OF CLUBBING SATURDAY 26TH 8PM-6AM CHOCOLATE WATCHBAND (USA 1ST TIME IN UK) + FUZZTONES (USA) + NEILS CHILDREN SUNDAY 27TH 8PM-6AM LOVE WITH ARTHUR LEE & JOHN ECHOLS + FRANK POPP ENSEMBLE (GERMANY) + THE EXCITERS SAT DAYTIME 1-5PM LOONS (USA) + MASTICA (ITALY) SUNDAY DAYTIME 1-5PM BUFF MEDWAYS + INDIKATION (NORWAY) + GAS MACH 5 14 LIVE BANDS, 3 ROOMS OF GROOVY TUNES, SPECIAL GUEST CLUB NIGHTS, ALLNIGHTERS, INTERNATIONAL DJ'S, BBC RADIO LONDON LIVE BROADCAST, PSYCHEDELIC LIGHT SHOW, GO GO DANCERS, MARKET STALLS, MOVIES, ART EXHIBITION, 'LE BEAT BESPOKE' FILM DEBUT, RECORD DEALERS. NUTS DJ'S DR ROBERT BAILEY, SPEED, PID, CHRIS DALE, SCOTT COPELAND, BERTIE & STEVE + MICKY (VELVET ILLUSION), MARK RAISON (SHAKE), ROGER BANKS, LIAM WATSON (TOERAG STUDIOS), INTERNATIONAL GUESTS - TONY' THE TYGER' SANCHEZ + MIKE STAX (USA) ENEIDA FEVER + LOLO (SPAIN) FRANTZ (ITALY) STEPHAN GOLOWKA + FRANK POPP (GERMANY) SPECIAL GUESTS CLUB NIGHTS FRIDAY HOT ROCK N ROLL IN THE ROCKAROUND ROOM WITH DJ'S MOUSE & COSMIC KEITH SAT 'WHERE THE ACTION IS' WITH GARY CROWLEY & JIM LAHAT BBC RADIO LONDON + PAOLO HEWITT & BAX (YOUNG MODS FORGOTTEN STORY & THE FASHION OF FOOTBALL PUBLICATIONS) SUNDAY 4 ROOMS OF CLUBBING ACID JAZZ PARTY WITH EDDIE PILLER, DEAN RUDLAND + GUEST & MANCHESTERS NEW CENTURY NORTHERN SOUL ALLNIGHTER IN MAIN ROOM FRIDAY 25 MARCH £17 SATURDAY 26 MARCH £17 SUNDAY 27 MARCH £20 DAYTIME EVENTS £6 WEEKEND TICKET £45 TICKET WEB 08700 600 100 http://www.ticketweb.com Full event details at: http://www.untouchables.com click on the Bespoke advert on the home page! This is going to be one mega event -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:19:34 -0000 From: Martin Nathan Subject: Searching For an Obscure Song I started listening to music in the late '60s and every station had a few songs that nobody else played. Often times, the record was impossible to find in the store, and worse, when you'd call up the station they'd act like they never heard of the song, even if they just played it. I was always a big fan of those types of songs, and I have managed to find a lot of them over the years, often just by stumbling onto some of them in piles of old 45s at record conventions. But one still eludes me. A simple little pop song by a young girl group around March 1968 on WTAG in Worcester, Mass- all I remember was "... when we get together, the whole world will shine forever, like peaches and cream together....". This is typical pop from that era, but surprisingly there are very few songs with the title "When We Get Together". I hope sometime I do find out who sang this one. thanx Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 12:53:41 -0800 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: "Come On Down To My Boat" Javed Jafri wrote: > ... Was "Boat" not recorded by a third band as well, and a > regional hit at that? Lee Curtis & The All-Stars did a British version of the song. I'm not sure where it appeared in its chronology, but I'm fairly certain it at least predated Every Mother's Son's version. --Phil M. Cover Art Gallery: http://www.aspma.com/temp/gallery lotsa new posts: http://www.aspma.com/probe -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:44:31 -0800 (PST) From: George Schowerer Subject: Re: Bob Johnston Artie Wayne wrote: > Columbia producer Bob Johnston produced some of > the best Bob Dylan albums. And some Simon and Garfunkel sessions with Roy Halee as engineer at Columbia's 7th. Avenue studio "A". I have some photos I took during those time periods when I worked for Columbia. Regards, George Schowerer -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 20:21:09 +0100 From: Frank J. Subject: Re: The Cowsills' "We Can Fly" Krischan: > Is my mind playing tricks on me or did somebody once mention > here that The Cowsills recorded an Italian language version > of "We Can Fly"? No, that's correct. I posted it about a year ago. Contact me off-list if you're interested. Anybody for the a-side? It's an Italian composition recorded only in italian. Frank J. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:03:05 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Pingel Subject: Re: The Cowsills' "We Can Fly" Christian Steiner wrote: > Is my mind playing tricks on me or did somebody once mention > here that The Cowsills recorded an Italian language version > of "We Can Fly"? I remember seeing them perform the song in Italian on the Dick Cavett show back when. I believe it was their entry for the San Remo Music Festival. It would logically follow that there is a recording of it somewhere, but I don't know for sure. Rob Pingel -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:01:21 -0500 From: Joe Nelson Subject: Austin Roberts: Mary And Me Larry Bromley: >"Mary and me, driftin' along on a carousel."? I loved that one! Austin Roberts: > You've got a good memory; that was 1968. It was about a girl > who was dancing around in Central Park while I was sitting > under a tree with an old Gibson 12-string, bereft of any song > ideas. She told me her name was Mary, and, because of the > simplicity of what she was doing, the song just came together > as she was still dancing. One wonders if she ever heard the finished record. Years ago I wrote a song called "She's Poetry" under similar circumstances. I know for a fact the girl in question never heard it - and given the lyrics I'm pretty sure she wouldn't have wanted to. Joe -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 14:39:42 -0500 From: Orion Subject: Re: The Austin Roberts I don't remember hearing "Mary and Me". Does anyone have it so that could be put up on Musica? I don't think I have ever heard an Austin Roberts tune I didn't like. Orion -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:51:03 -0800 (PST) From: Einar Einarsson Kvaran Subject: Re: RIP Martin Denny Eddy: > HONOLULU, Hawaii (AP) -- Martin Denny, who recorded 38 albums > that defined a genre of tropical mood music, dubbed "Exotica," > which reflected tiki lounge culture, died Wednesday, his > daughter said. He was 93. Martin Denny's recording career gets good coverage in Michael Kelly's CD-ROM book, "Liberty Records." RIP, Einar -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 19:31:58 -0000 From: Roy Clough Subject: Re: Byrds vs Searchers Mark: > Searchers have said that they never even used a 12-string on > "Needles And Pins," which was the blueprint for The Byrds' sound. That's correct Mark, first time The Searchers used a 12-string was on "When You Walk In The Room", the Jackie De Shannon song. Roy Clough -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:42:26 -0500 From: Mikey Subject: Re: Byrds vs Searchers Mark: > Searchers have said that they never even used a 12-string on > "Needles And Pins," which was the blueprint for The Byrds' sound. Correct!!!! it's two guitars played in unison, then done again double-tracked. The Serchers called this "Double Live". Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 19:29:30 -0000 From: Roy Clough Subject: Re: "Sugar & Spice" rememberances Previously: > "Sugar and Spice" will always be a Drifters song. Roy Clough: > Strange, it was written by Tony Hatch, the Searchers' producer > - just a historical note. I think you actually mean "Sweets > For My Sweet". Bill Mulvy: > I'm from Chicago and around here "Sugar And Spice" will always > be remembered as a Cryan' Shames song. The others are in the > rear-view mirror, if t all. Well Bill, I am from Leeds in the UK and over here, apart from me perhaps, who considers himself to be knowledgable on The Searchers - see CLOUGH LINKS on http://www.searchers.rickresource.com/ - No one over here has heard of The Cryan Shames except the English Cryin' Shames who were a one hit wonder with a Joe Meek produced number called "Please Stay". Roy Clough -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 20:08:53 -0000 From: Matthew David Subject: Re: Rare Breed "Come On Down To My Boat" Javed Jafri writes: > Thank you, Matthew! This is the most detailed description > that I have seen about The Rare Breed/original Ohio Express, > and the only time I recall the personnel being mentioned. You're welcome. The real Rare Breed only recorded 2 songs - "Beg, Borrow & Steal" and "Lightning Doesn't Strike Twice". The latter was going to be their follow-up, but wasn't released due to the similarly titled Lou Christie hit. Turns out the remaining 8 trax on the Super K Kollection are by totally different groups! Typical K&K move. Bill Mulvy writes: > "Come And Take a Ride In My Boat" can be found on "Bubblegum > Classics volume 1". VareseSarabande VSD 5535. The Rare Breed's "Come And Take A Ride In My Boat" was in fact not done by The Rare Breed! Who is behind this fuzzy early version is still a mystery. Matthew David -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 20:56:37 -0000 From: Stewart Epstein Subject: Lou Christie fans?? Any Lou Christie fans out there??...the guy looks GREAT and can still do his falsettos..the way I "warm up" for singing is to first sing along with "Cara Mia" by Jay & The Americans, then "Lightning Strikes" by LOU, and then I am ready to sing my lovey-dovey ballads. Stewart Epstein -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 14:40:27 -0800 (PST) From: Einar Einarsson Kvaran Subject: Re: "The Twelfth OF Never" in Musica. Country Paul: > I just played "The Twelfth of Never" by Mark Dinning to musica. Julio: > maybe my favorite is the suffocating and soulful version by > Jamaican singer "Pat Kelly" recorded in the late sixties. Billy J Krammer & the Dakotas have a pretty credible (in my opinion) version from 1963. Einar -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 14:21:13 -0800 (PST) From: Einar Einarsson Kvaran Subject: Re: Searchers' "Sugar & Spice" Previously: > "Sugar and Spice" will always be a Drifters song. Roy Clough: > Strange, it was written by Tony Hatch, the > Searchers' producer - just a historical note. I show Sugar & Spice as being written by a "Fred Nightingale." Einar _____________________________________________________________ Admin note: Fred Nightingale is one of the pseudonyms used by Tony Hatch. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 14:53:00 -0800 (PST) From: Einar Einarsson Kvaran Subject: Re: Bob Johnston Artie Wayne wrote: > Columbia producer Bob Johnston produced some of the > best Bob Dylan albums. Steve Harvey: > ... and one of the worst Byrds LPs. They fired him after they > heard the way he produced their version of "Lay Lady Lay". Two versions of "Lay Lady Lady" appear on "The Byrds Play Dylan" CD. Listen to them both and it's pretty easy to guess which one the band objected to. Einar -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 21:09:52 -0000 From: Will Stos Subject: Re: Clydie King Dave Monroe wrote: > Clydie King's "I'll Never Stop Loving You" is an all-time > favorite track of mine. I've also been spinning "One Part > Two Part" and "Mistakes Of Yesterday." Beautiful, nigh > unto stately soul. Guess I'll have to get 'em all. Can anyone tell me if there's a compilation that contains Clydie's '60s material? I doubt it's all collected together, but can anyone recommend a series that has more than one or two of her songs? If not, perhaps it's time to suggest one to a reissue label. Will : ) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 04:41:40 -0500 From: Howard Subject: Re: Rare Breed/"Come On Down To My Boat" Matthew David wrote: > This is the band that played on "Beg, Borrow & Steal" -- both > the Rare Breed 45 on Attack and Ohio Express 45 on Cameo. The > group was previously known as The Conquests. All members > were high schoolers in the Brooklyn/Bronx area of New York. Javed Jafri wrote: > Thank you, Matthew! This is the most detailed description that > I have seen about The Rare Breed/original Ohio Express, and the > only time I recall the personnel being mentioned. BTW was "Boat" > not recorded by a third band as well, and a regional hit at that? Is this the same song (COME ON DOWN TO MY BOAT)that MANITOBA recorded on RCA?? Howard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:06:36 -0000 From: Andy Subject: Jimmy Webb I've just got my tickets to see Jimmy Webb at the Lyric Theatre in London on May 21st. I've never seen him live before and I guess he'll be promoting the 'The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress' box set. Can anyone out there give me an indication of what his live shows are like? Am I in for a treat? Cheers Andy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 06:34:13 -0800 (PST) From: Hans Huss Subject: Re: The Cameo Parkway Story (1957-1967) Matt Spero wrote: > THIS IS A MAJOR MUSICAL EVENT. [...] For years the only > Chubbby Checker and Bobby Rydell stuff available have > been re-recordings. Yes, the Cameo-Parkway Story is good news! Let's hope it has all the right versions and let's hope the liner notes tell the story. What little have read about the label before, The Sound of Philadelphia by Tony Cummings, for instance, is usually very dismissive. However, I must confess I find the inclusion of the British tracks a bit odd. I understand they are there for historical reasons, but musically (and geographically) they appear out-of-place. No slur on the Kinks (or the Ivy League); even the Beatles wouldn't quite fit alongside Jerry Butler and Betty Everett on a Vee Jay collection! I wish some of the more glaring omissions -- hits and obscurities -- would have taken their place instead: the Bronzettes "Hot Spot" (Parkway 929, penned and produced by Chubby Checker); Honey Love & the Love Notes "We Belong Together" and "Mary Ann" (the latter a scarce Phil Spector song, Cameo 380); Alaine Williams "When Are We Getting Married" (a lovely Kenny Gamble-Thom Bell collaboration, Cameo 923); Yvonne Baker's northern soul classic "You Didnít Say A Word" (Parkway 140); and the Orlons' great double-sider "No Love But Your Love"/"Envy" (Cameo 384, the latter surely the blueprint for some of Laura Nyro's finest songs -- listen to "Sweet Blindness" for instance)! Not to mention Chubby Checker's "Dancin' Party" (Parkway 842) and Dee Dee Sharp's "Wild!" (Cameo 274)Ö Hmm, thereís a Volume 2 in this, I think! Still, alongside the truly marvellous "Don't Hang Up" and "Cross Fire!", it's good to see the rare "Get a Hold of Yourself" by the Persians (originally released on Cameo-Parkway's small Pageant subsidiary); the A-side, by Billy Giant, Bernie Baum and Florence Kaye (of "(You're the) Devil in Disguise" fame ), could have given not just "Don't Throw Your Love Away" a run for its money, but a few of the big ones as well! Hasse Huss -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:22:07 +0000 From: Richard Havers Subject: Re: Whistling Jack Smith Phil X Milstein wrote: > I can't add anything about Whistling Jack Smith to the info > Richard Havers provided, which corresponds precisely with the > info on "Smith" presented in "Billboard's Book Of One-Hit Wonders." Maybe I'm over sensitive Phil, but that sounds like an accusation of plagiarism. As I writer I am very careful about such things. What I wrote actually comes from a book I have written that I have in manuscript form. It has been worked on over the course of the last twenty years, and is about every artist that had a hit in Britain in the 60s. The Whistling Jack Smith entry in the Billboard book lacks a lot of information and I think my words on WJS reflects far more accurately the story. Billboard says - Billy Moeller recorded "disks" as Coby Wells when in fact he cut one song. - He didn't return to being Coby Wells - He didn't record as Bill Moeller or Billy Moeller but as one half of Bill and Buster The Billboard book says pretty much what you say Phil "I would, though, like to mention that the character's name was obviously chosen in reference to Whispering Jack Smith, a British singer whose war injury severely curtailed his projection abilities, leading to both his vocal signature and his kicky nickname" Unfortunately the Billboard book says that it was a World War 2 injury, when in fact the whisperer's injury was sustained in the First World War. So please be more careful when using the word 'precisely' and sorry to be picky, but it's a professional thing. Best Richard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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