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Spectropop - Digest Number 1847



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There are 19 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Hit Records stereo singles
           From: Joe Nelson 
      2. Re: Nightriders 45
           From: Artie Wayne 
      3. Re: Time, oh time
           From: Joe Nelson 
      4. Johnny Fortune
           From: Stephen C. Propes 
      5. Johnny Fortune
           From: Gary Myers 
      6. Re: Jimmy Webb / 5th Dimension
           From: Artie Wayne 
      7. Re: No Bass (and Great Bass)
           From: Einar Einarsson Kvaran 
      8. Re: Muscle Shoals
           From: Mike Rashkow 
      9. Re: Athena label from Nashville?
           From: Dave Monroe 
     10. Re: Best Of Their Love
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     11. Re: "Baby It's You"
           From: Dave Monroe 
     12. Re: The Dellwoods
           From: Fred Clemens 
     13. Re: Basil Swift
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     14. Re: demises
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     15. Re: Loudermilk of human kindness
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     16. Re: Jimmy Webb/ "Earthbound" / 5th Dimension
           From: Einar Einarsson Kvaran 
     17. Time Life "The Rock'n'Rroll Era"
           From: Doug 
     18. Lance Fortune
           From: Peter Lerner 
     19. Help Needed
           From: Mike Rashkow 


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Message: 1 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:56:23 -0500 From: Joe Nelson Subject: Re: Hit Records stereo singles Billy Spradlin: > Also, were some stereo 45s made after late 1967 (like The Lemon Pipers' > "Green Tamborine") cut this way? I have several 45s from the late '60s > that have "Compatable Stereo" on the label. Some, but not all. A handful of labels, such as Atlantic and A&M. preferred the Haeco C(ompatable)S(tereo)G(enerator) system. The CSG threw the right channel ninety degrees out of phase with the left, phasing down the center channel by about thirty percent when played in mono. I've heard the Lemon Pipers record (actually "Rice Is Nice") was cut this way but don't have it to verify that. Joe Nelson -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:20:16 -0800 (PST) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: Nightriders 45 Claire...How ya' doin'? First I want to thank you for producing such an enjoyable record. Although Hugh McCracken and I wrote "It's Only the Dog" for the Kingsmen, the record I helped Jerry Dennon to produce didn't capture the bizzare nature of the song. It's hard to believe that I never knew the song was even covered. regards, Artie Wayne http://artiewayne.com/ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:08:04 -0500 From: Joe Nelson Subject: Re: Time, oh time Phil M asked: > Now that I think of it I'm not sure why record companies would > bother listing times on their stock copies at all! Would a home > listener choose a 2:10 record over a 2:50 one in order to save > 40 seconds to make an appointment? Country Paul replied: > For home tapers, perhaps - before it became a big bugaboo. I know > that's how I used it (but mostly for sequencing singles I'd already > bought). To which I'd like to add those timings, when accurate, really came in handy during the Seventies (i.e. the eight-track cartridge era). Although I never bought one of the things a lot of people I knew did, and I got real good at the mixed base addition and subtraction necessary to program your tapes to four relatively equal lengths. If the format hadn't bit the dust by the time I entered the workforce I probably could have used that ability to get entry into the record industry. Curiously, that skill saved the day a few months ago on the job (I fix trains for Metro North Railroad in New York City). The Federal Railway Administration requires event recorders on controling equipment (similar to black boxes on airplanes). We had a problem during a run with a car, and my boss wanted to compare the car that failed with another car in the same consist. He downloaded the second car, went to the time of failure and found nothing. He came to me and asked if I could find the point of failure. I said these clocks are never in synch, let me show you how to find it. I looked at the failure point on the problem car and noted the exact time. Then I went to the point of departure from Grand Central Terminal, noted that time and subtracted the two. Then I went to the good car, found the departure point, added the difference from the first car to the departure time, told the computer to pinpoint the answer and went straight to the point of failure on the second car. The boss just sat there looking at me like I had three heads, absolutely clueless as to what I'd done. Call it "job security". :-) Joe Nelson (didn't get a promotion out of the deal...) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:25:18 -0000 From: Stephen C. Propes Subject: Johnny Fortune Country Paul: > 'Soul Surfer' by Johnny Fortune (4/6/63) ... By the way, who was he? > (I doubt his birth certificate said "Fortune" - or did it?) RN: Johnny Sudeta. He recorded at the Pal Studios in Cucamonga, made famous by Frank Zappa. Steve -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:14:04 -0800 From: Gary Myers Subject: Johnny Fortune Country Paul: > ... 'Soul Surfer' by Johnny Fortune ... who was he? I did a story on him around 1979. I'll get it out and post a few facts in the next day or 2. gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:32:46 -0800 (PST) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: Jimmy Webb / 5th Dimension Anthony...How ya'doin'? I represented the 5th Diminsion's publishing companies as well as Jimmy Webb's when I was at Warner Brothers Music and co-wrote their last hit "Flashback" with Alan O'Day. I've lost touch with the group and Jimmy, but I'd love to hear "Moonlight Mile" that everyone is raving about. Is it out on CD? If not, could you post it to musica? Thanks and regards, Artie Wayne http://artiewayne.com/ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:58:07 -0800 (PST) From: Einar Einarsson Kvaran Subject: Re: No Bass (and Great Bass) Previously: > Good to see The Orlons get a plug. Listen to 'Crossfire!' for a > great bass line (and great everything else as well). I just listened to Crossfire, and it is wonderful - - but - - how do I find out who the bass player [and hopefully, the drummer] was? Gary Myers: > I'm pretty sure that "To Know Him Is To Love Him" has no bass > (Teddy Bears, not P&G). Spector is supposed to have played all the instruments on this track [except for Sandy Nelson on drums - not his most rousing work], perhaps Phil was not comfortable on bass? Einar -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 13:53:51 EST From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Re: Muscle Shoals > Historic Muscle Shoals Recording Studio Closes Now--that is the saddest post of I've read on S'pop. No la, Rashkovsky -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:51:20 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Monroe Subject: Re: Athena label from Nashville? Jon Christopher Pennington wrote: > Continuing the discussion of Nashville pop, I think Athena Records > was a Nashville label. The label released the Feminine Complex LP > "Livin' Love," which should be of interest to most people on this > list. The Feminine Complex was an all-girl band out of Nashville > with a Nancy Sinatra-meets-The Standells kind of sound, but also > with some poppier tracks.... Great band, great album, decent 45 ("Six O'Clock in the Morning," though I'm more of a fan of "I've Been Working on You"), Teenbeat (Rev-Ola in the U.K.) reissued Livin' Love on both vinyl and CD a little under a decade ago (though I got lucky and recently scored an OG Athena LP as well), along with demo material, another 45, and a CD of previously unreleased material (To Be in Love). Links: http://users.erols.com/teenbeat/femcmplx.html http://www.cherryred.co.uk/revola/artists/femininecrrev66.htm Though I'd say more 60s countrified pop meets Muscle Shoals (R.I.P.) horns, at least on my favorite tracks. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:33:07 -0800 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: Best Of Their Love Clark Besch wrote: > Hi, altho this isn't usual S'pop chatter, I am looking for help. > I just found out a co-worker is brother to the Emotions, the > sister group who won a Grammy for "Best Of My Love" in 1978. > I have a lot of material on their 70's days, but am looking > for any 60's material--videos, radio charts, pictures, etc. I always thought "Best Of My Love" was by The Eagles! Just fueling, but didn't both "Best"s come out around the same time? It can't be all that common for two songs of a substantially similar (if not identical) title, even if such an innocuous one as this, to both hit big within a short period of time. Observationally, --Phil M. http://www.aspma.com/probe -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:36:59 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Monroe Subject: Re: "Baby It's You" James Botticelli wrote: > Funnily enough I just digitized a 1980 recording of "Baby Its You" > by a girl group called Dolly Mixture. It rocks a little too much > for my ears but when the subject of your CD-R is "Stuff From '77- > '84 That Sounds Sixties" you include it.. Man, I've been TRYING to score Dolly Mixture vinyl, but ... anyway, DM's Deborah "Debsey" Kelly is currently in Birdie, who have two albums out in a more folksy 60s vibe. She also sang on Saint Etienne's cover of Candlewick Green's "Who Do You Think You Are?" St. E's Bob Stanley put out a CD of DM tracks (Demonstration Tapes, on Royal Mint). Further info: http://www.thestranger.com/1999-05-06/excellent15.html http://www.geocities.com/tokyoskyline/etiennerelated.html My fave DM track: "How Come You're Such a Hit with the Boys, Jane?" That title alone ... -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 21:26:10 -0000 From: Fred Clemens Subject: Re: The Dellwoods Country Paul wrote: > It was on an album of Mad songs credited to a group called The > Dellwoods. Anyone know anything about them? Were they a real group? > My favorite track from the album was the heartfelt ballad "I"ll > Never Make Fun of Her Mustache Again." (For the record, Dellwood > was a major dairy company serving the New York metro area, where > mad was headquartered.) The Dellwoods appear to be a legitimate group, as they are pictured on the back side of the MAD TWISTS ROCK AND ROLL lp on Big Top. The other featured Artists were Mike Russo and Jeanne Hayes. Mike Russo had earlier attempted a solo gig in 1959, when he remade the Isley Brothers' "I'm Gonna Knock On Your Door" on the Crosley label. The Isleys had recorded it earlier in the year on RCA Victor. Eddie Hodges had a Hit with it for Cadence in 1961(?). Mike Russo would go on to record a blues oriented album for the Airhoolie(sp) label in the late 60's (or early '70's?). Two MAD tunes by the Dellwoods from the LP had earlier been released as a single (on RCA), but credited to the Sweet Sick Teens. The songs were "Agnes (The Teenage Russian Spy)" and "The Pretzel". As the Dellwoods, a Big Top single was realized from the album, "Don't Put Onions On Your Hamburger" b/w "Her Mustache". Also, a few of the tunes from both Big Top lp's (the other one being FINK ALONG WITH MAD), were issued as laminated cardboard records in certain MAD Special issues a couple of years after the initial lp's. Fred Clemens -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:25:25 -0800 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: Basil Swift Eddy Smit wrote: > ... In the US there was the 45 version of Brian Wilson doing his bit > as Basil Swift and the Seagrams, c/w Shambles, produced by Nik Venet > and Danny Hutton on Mercury 72386 (1965). I was always under the impression that "Basil Swift" was aka Danny Hutton. No? --Phil M. http://www.aspma.com/probe -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:30:03 -0800 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: demises Bill Swanke wrote: > Historic Muscle Shoals Recording Studio Closes Hi Bill. No offense, and I appreciate your diligence, but I sure hope to read some GOOD news from you one of these days! I'm only fueling actually, as I realize that when working with aging artists the inevitable is bound to occur at a much higher rate than if you were mining, say, the Rave field, but I still sincerely hold out hope -- for your sake at least as much as for our's -- that one of these days you'll be able to report something to us other than an obituary, whether of a human or inanimate subject. Best wishes, --Phil X. Milstein http://www.aspma.com/probe -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:21:44 -0800 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: Loudermilk of human kindness Davie Gordon wrote: > I was going to refer you to a great John D. Loudermilk website, > only to discover that you most likely know about it already, since > it's your project :) I'll see if I can find anything on Jana. > Congratulations on your site -- a superb piece of work. > http://members.chello.nl/~k.vanderhoeven/JDL.html I second Davie's enthusiasm for Kees' Loudermilk site. The first time I found myself visiting there, it struck me that while I was quite familiar with Loudermilk's name as the author of dozens of great songs, I didn't know a thing about him, nor had I heard any of his own records. This in turn triggered me to pick up a JDL album or two, and, after getting over the shock of hearing Loudermilk's clear, earnest voice (shocking because I'd expected, for whatever reason, something closer to a life-hardened rasp; in fact I think I specifically had Dave Van Ronk in mind), I've found myself quite liking them. I'd call Loudermilk a "singular talent," except that there is one career to whose his seems to have a lot of parallels, that being Mose Allison. Neither is quite categorizable; both are better-known for their compositions than for their own recordings; and other stuff like that. I believe both are still alive, as well. Dig, --Phil M. http://www.aspma.com/probe -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:47:52 -0800 (PST) From: Einar Einarsson Kvaran Subject: Re: Jimmy Webb/ "Earthbound" / 5th Dimension Previously: > Can anybody tell me how good the reunion album Jimmy Webb did with > the 5th Dimension is? 'Earthbound' is out of print ... If there are > any other Fifth Dimension fans out there, I'd love to hear your > take on this LP. I'm wondering if this "reunion" included Hal Blaine and the Wrecking Crew, who were such a big part of the original 5th Dimention, and a lot of other Jimmy Webb stuff for that matter? Einar -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 22:00:53 -0000 From: Doug Subject: Time Life "The Rock'n'Rroll Era" Can anyone tell me, or know where I can find, a complete list of what cds were issued in the Time Life "The Rock'n'Rroll Era" series? Thanks, Doug -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 22:13:19 -0000 From: Peter Lerner Subject: Lance Fortune Listening to regional BBC radio on my way home late from work last evening, I almost crashed the car when I heard former Radio Caroline DJ playing "Be mine" by Lance Fortune. For the majority who have never heard it, it was a UK top ten hit in 1960, quite well sung by a slightly husky Lance to an all action pizzicato string accompaniment, reminiscent of contemporary Adam Faith-with-John-Barry-accompaniment, which itself owed major debts stylistically to Buddy Holy's "It doesn't matter anymore". Get the picture? Well, the record so charmed me then that I bought it, but shortly afterwards must have confused it for a floor mop. so for the past 45 years my listening pleasure has been somewhat tarnished. It was a joy therefore to hear it in pristine sound. Which leads me to wonder, at the time Lance Fortune was something of a mystery man. He followed up "Be mine" with three equally charming non hits, all on the Pye label, then disappeared. Totally. He did not turn up in 1963 leading a Mersey style beat group, nor in 1969 as a heavy metal hippie. My recollection is that he was said to be an undergraduate who went back to university after his 15 minutes of fame. But something else says he was someone more renowned, in disguise. One thing is certain, he never turns up on revival tours or in nostalgia mags. Does anyone know anything about this gentleman. Has his oeuvre been collected on to CD? Did he record an album to go alongside his hit? Well it makes a change from Brian Wilson, doesn't it. Peter -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:06:39 EST From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Help Needed Fellow S'pop-ers, I ask your assistance for a project I am working on, as follows: I need good originals for the following recordings: The Hardy Boys: 1. Let The Sun Shine 2. Good Good Lovin' 3. My Little Sweetpea 4. I Hear The Grass Singing 5. On Time In A Million 6. Those Country Girls I have previously been given a CD dub of these from one of our good brothers, but the quality of the source LP was marginal, and the beginning of several are clipped in the transfer. Also: Steve Tudanger 1. This Is The Beginning Of My Love This is the "B" side of "Everybody's Talkin' 'Bout You" on Mercury-- and that is the only place it exists. For this one, I only need the last 1/3 to be in good shape. I've got the rest. If you can help with any of the above, please contact me off-line and hopefully we can work out something together. Thanks. Di la, Rashkovsky -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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