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There are 19 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. The Avons meet Clifford Curry on the Night Train to Nashville
           From: Mick Patrick 
      2. The Nightriders
           From: Eddy 
      3. Re: The Flirtations
           From: Nick Archer 
      4. Re: The death of vinyl
           From: Steve Harvey 
      5. Re: Nico / Tim Hardin / Lenny Bruce
           From: Steve Harvey 
      6. Re: song lyrics
           From: Stephane Rebeschini 
      7. Re: Both sides covered
           From: Artie Wayne 
      8. Re: Claire and Artie sitting in a tree ...
           From: Artie Wayne 
      9. Re: "Baby It's You"
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     10. Don Grady
           From: Den 
     11. Re: Petula Clark in person
           From: Anthony Parsons 
     12. Re: The Nightriders - It's Only The Dog / C'mon Let's Cut this movie to shreds
           From: Bill George 
     13. Re: Attention Chantal Goya Fans !!
           From: Dave Monroe 
     14. Vanilla Pop
           From: James Botticelli 
     15. Re: Larry Welk
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     16. Re: rampant Thatcherism
           From: Lyn Nuttall 
     17. Re: The Nightriders
           From: Claire Francis 
     18. The Grammy-Winning Avons
           From: David Bell 
     19. Re: Luther Dixon aka Barney Williams
           From: Alan Warner 

Message: 1 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 21:19:14 -0000 From: Mick Patrick Subject: The Avons meet Clifford Curry on the Night Train to Nashville Skip Woolwine wrote: > See: The Grammies are Sunday Night. > In Saturday's Nashville Tennessean 2/12/05, there is an > extensive story about the Grammy Nomination of "Night Train > To Nashville: Music City Rhythm & Blues, 1945-1970" for Best > Historical Album. They include a sidebar with a photo of my > friend, whom my band frequently backs, Clifford Curry and > his reaction to his 1967 "She Shot A Hole In My Soul" > (produced by Buzz Cason) being on that compilation, and its > being nominated for a Grammy. I see the "Night Train To Nashville" CD won the Grammy. It's a great piece of work and deserved to win. Mind you, I don't know what the competition was. Whatever, congratulate the Grammy- winning Clifford Curry for me. His featured track is great. David Bell: > One of the girl groups I've really got into after lots of > recommendations is the Avons, who recorded for a variety of > labels, mostly emanating from Nashville - Groove, A-Bet, > Sound Stage Seven, Excello and Ref-O-Ree. I recall a > conversation I had with Mick a couple of years ago about the > group and I remember him saying that they recorded under > aliases for the Hit label. Does anyone have a listing of what > they recorded and under which names? Don't quote me, but I think the Avons recorded for the Hit label as Jenny & the Jewels - all Motown songs. No doubt you'll be scouring eBay? Do keep us informed what you score. Actually, the Avons are also featured on "Night Train To Nashville". So I guess that from now on we should refer to them as "The Grammy-Winning Avons". The CDs come with an excellent booklet, with excellent notes written by Ron Wynn and Michael Gray. Here's what the latter has to say on the Avons: "Like the Hytones, the female trio the Avons benefited from Bob Holmes's management, production, songwriting, and arranging talents. He secured the vocal group a recording deal with Excello and visibility on (the TV show) Night Train. Paula Hester and sisters Beverly and Fran Bard met at Pearl High School in Nashville but fashioned a sound closer to Motown than to the southern soul of Sound Stage 7." Night Train was like an all-black Nashville version of Shindig. thankfully, footage of the Avons has survived. The group have several songs available spread across numerous CDs. If anyone's interested I could try to compile a list. In the meantime, I have posted a great track by the group to musica. Details are: The Avons "Rolling Stone" (Groove 58-0033, 1964), written by Robert Riley, produced by Bob Ferguson. Listen to it here: I've also posted a picture of the group to the S'pop Photos area. View it here: Now I need a lie down, and some toast. Hey la, Mick Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 11:18:33 +0100 From: Eddy Subject: The Nightriders Since there seems to be a bit of a demand, I've uploaded the Nightriders 45 up to Musica. Unfortunately it's still in Real Audio. However, the much discussed Ebay auction was won by a friend of mine, so an mp3 is in the works ! But do note that the track has been released on the UK OOP Idle Race 2cd set ! Eddy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 07:08:14 -0600 From: Nick Archer Subject: Re: The Flirtations James wrote: > Legendary Girl Group Singers came across another "Blues and Soul" > article from 1974 promoting the Flirtations' single "Dirty Work." > I can post the article if anyone wants it icludes a rare picture > of the group. I was visiting Radio Luxembourg in 1980 and got a tour from one of the DJs, Bob Stewart. In passing he mentioned that one of the Flirtations had gotten a job as a presenter on Radio Luxembourg. Does anyone know who that was? Nick Archer Check out Nashville's classic pop and soft rock radio station SM95, now streaming at -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 08:01:39 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Re: The death of vinyl Matt Spero wrote: > It is possible they have their own vinyl pressing units. . . I'm > sure they are out there from companies that have shut down. . . > I even know someone who has the equipment in their garage to make > pressings. I knew a guy who had a pressing and cutting lathe in his bedroom. Did stuff for rockabilly bands that wanted their music out on vinyl. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 07:57:38 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Re: Nico / Tim Hardin / Lenny Bruce Nico was over in Spain and fell off her bicycle. She hit her head and died from her injuries. I met her once at some club in Jersey called Alexanders. She signed all her lps that I had brought along. Nice enough. Tim Hardin also had a great tribute to Hank Williams too. Norm D: > And to bring the circle back to Lenny Bruce - he told the story, > on one of his records, about actor Bela Lugosi, who was a junkie > for years, "he cleans up, then drops dead". Of course, Lenny never cleaned up and dropped dead too. Drugs have a way of eating you up inside for a long time before they kill you later. I look at friends that did booze and drugs in their youth. You look at them now and they look older than their parents. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 16:07:47 +0100 From: Stephane Rebeschini Subject: Re: song lyrics Steve Jarrell: > A caller called my radio show today and said that she had been > looking for 30+ years for a song with a repeated lyric phrase, > "The children of St. Monica". She said she thought it came out > between 1966-68. Any idea? That's possibly Don Grady with The Windupwatchband (pre Yellow Balloon) : "The Children Of St. Monica". You can find it on the Sundazed reissue CD of the Yellow Balloon album. All the best, Stephane -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 09:42:12 -0800 (PST) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: Both sides covered Joe...How ya' doin"? More interesting A side and B-Side covers were Buddy Holly's versions of of Bobby Darin's "Early in the Morning" b/w "Now Wer'e One". As I remember, it sounded like the same tracks were used, which was highly unlikely. I'd guess they were both cut in New York with the same musicians and background singers. regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 09:55:55 -0800 (PST) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: Claire and Artie sitting in a tree ... Claire...How ya' doin'? If I may finish that rhyme... "Claire and Artie sitting in a tree... waiting for our royalties!" Aren't writers and producers supposed to get 50% of the income from a sale on E-Bay ? regards, Artie Wayne __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 16:43:06 -0500 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: "Baby It's You" Mick Patrick wrote: > As I understand it, Burt Bacharach and Mack David wrote a song > entitled "I'll Cherish You", and made a demo disc thereof, > featuring Burt himself on backing vocals. Luther Dixon, the > Shirelles' producer, liked the song but wanted "darker" lyrics, > so wrote new ones, using his brother's name to do so. He then > recorded the Shirelles'"Baby It's You" over the backing track of > the original demo. While shopping for groceries this afternoon, "Baby It's You" came over the store's PA -- a great thing indeed to squeeze zucchinis to. Hearing it anew, with our thread on it fresh (to maintain the grocery theme) in mind, reminded me to ask if anyone knows what type of organ plays on the track. That trebly solo, while not quite in Max Crook territory, is still pretty close to the stratosphere. "Baby It's You" is so well-constructed a song that it seems hard to ruin. Consequently, I've never heard a cover version that I didn't like, although none nearly as much as I do The Shirelles' original. However, didn't Vanilla Fudge also record it? If so I don't think I've heard their's, and I hold out the possibility that it might not do it for me. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 13:07:33 -0500 From: Den Subject: Don Grady I think Don Grady was Chip, or one of Fred MacMurray's other "sons" in My Three Sons. Den -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 13:39:18 -0600 From: Anthony Parsons Subject: Re: Petula Clark in person Bill Mulvy: > I am also a big Petula Clark fan. I would highly recommend the > Petula Clark DVD, Live in Paris. The performance is excellent. > Circuit City dot com sells it online. Also Petula will be appearing > live with Andy Williams (separately), in Branson Missouri in the > spring and fall of this year. I think each run is for six straight > weeks. She is also doing some east coast dates as well. Thanks for the heads up, Bill. As you might guess, I was already aware of the DVD and the accompanying CD, but I haven't gotten them yet. However, I was not aware of Petula's plans to appear in Branson. I appreciate you letting me know. I'm planning, if all goes well, to travel to Branson late this year to see the Lennon Sisters, so if I can get in a peek at Pet as well, I'd consider myself very lucky. Speaking of the Lennon Sisters, I know they're not really Spectropop material, but I recently pulled out their version of Hit The Road Jack and was very pleasantly surprised. I played it for my cousin, who leans more toward the r&b side of the Spectropop rainbow, and he said the same thing he said when I played him the Shangri-Las' version of the Ikettes hit I'm Blue and that was "Not bad for white girls!" Sincerely, Antone -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 21:36:42 -0000 From: Bill George Subject: Re: The Nightriders - It's Only The Dog / C'mon Let's Cut this movie to shreds Any chance of getting The Nightriders' "It's Only The Dog" posted to musica as an mp3 file? Thanks! And let's all write AMC letters complaining about cutting Jackie DeShannon's songs from Cmon On Let's Live A Little. Would they cut Natalie Wood's songs out of West Side Story?!? Bill -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 10:47:13 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Monroe Subject: Re: Attention Chantal Goya Fans !! Nicole Diaz-Ordaz wrote: > Godard re-release Masculine Feminine (1966): > And watch for the Francoise Hardy and Brigitte Bardot cameos as well --> Thanks again ... -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 14:03:19 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Vanilla Pop I just got my hands on the new book by Joseph Lanza (author of "Elevator Music") called "Vanilla Pop". Mr. Lanza provides all the intellectual evidence one needs as he persuasively argues that Non-Jazz/Non- R&B/Non-'Driven' music embraced by Spectropoppers is not only valid, but the actual 'thesis' of which the above mentioned musical forms are the antithesis. He steps through the culturally sanctioned looking glass and gives a well-thought out assertion of appreciation of 'vanilla pop' on its own merits. Interestingly he uses Billy Joel as an artist torn between the two ends of the spectrum. Apparently Joel, when being inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, suggested he was merely an imitator of 'real' music which he said is R&B. He categorizes Rock 'n' Roll as bastardized R&B. Lanza not only successfully disputes Joel, asking how the writer of the apparently R&B influenced "We Didn't Start The Fire" also wrote the Vanilla Pop influenced "Just The Way You Are", but argues the validity of the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame itself. Its a breath of fresh air, long overdue......A must read for Spectropoppers IMHO... Thanks for the space. JB/dismounting pulpit -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 17:13:30 -0500 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: Larry Welk Chris Brame wrote: > Yes, but it works better with the proper pronunciation: > "I really like-ed the sound of-a 'Pipe-a-line-ah'; it was a great-a > little-a record-a py poys so young-ah." Believe it or not, Welk was born and entirely raised in the U.S. However, he grew up in an isolated enclave of German immigrants in, I believe, Nebraska, thus accounting for his accent. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 21:46:42 -0000 From: Lyn Nuttall Subject: Re: rampant Thatcherism Phil X Milstein wrote: > Are you guys jokin' about This Mark Thatcher being the same as That > Mark Thatcher? Oh dear, I hope I didn't give the impression that he was, but perhaps one should spell it out, for the record, in case there's any doubt: it's an amusing coincidence of names, nothing more. (I can already picture some eager Googler of the future citing the thread as evidence that Sir Mark was a schoolboy bluebeat singer.) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 17:52:48 EST From: Claire Francis Subject: Re: The Nightriders Eddy wrote: > Since there seems to be a bit of a demand, I've uploaded the > Nightriders 45 up to Musica. Unfortunately it's still in Real > Audio. However, the much discussed Ebay auction was won by a > friend of mine, so an mp3 is in the works ! But do note that > the track has been released on the UK OOP Idle Race 2cd set ! Thanks Eddy, I can't wait to hear it! I tried to play it from musica, but it didn't work for me. Oh how I wish I knew how to work this iMack X0 !! Love & Light, Claire Francis -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 17:52:54 EST From: David Bell Subject: The Grammy-Winning Avons Mick Patrick: > Don't quote me, but I think the Avons recorded for the Hit > label as Jenny & the Jewels - all Motown songs. No doubt you'll > be scouring eBay? Do keep us informed what you score. Well, true to type, Mick, I went straight onto Ebay and there's nowt by Jenny and the Jewels up for grabs. But I'm a persistent little beggar! However, I did see Quicksand by the Georgettes. On the videotape that several people have, don't the Grammy winning Avons do that song on Night Train? Or is my memory as bad as it usually is on Saturday night? This gets more and more intriguing. David -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 17:42:58 -0800 From: Alan Warner Subject: Re: Luther Dixon aka Barney Williams Mick Patrick wrote: > Yes, Luther Dixon is alive. Florence Greenberg had great taste > in men, and producers. Luther Dixon is one of the greatest > producers who ever lived. Agreed, Luther Dixon was a superb producer. He also had great taste in the opposite sex because his first wife was Inez Foxx! FYI, Luther and Inez wrote "I Love You 1000 Times" which charted for The Platters in 1966 when they were on Musicor around the same time that Inez and her brother Charlie were recording for Musicor's Dynamo subsidiary. Rock on! Alan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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