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Spectropop - Digest Number 1839

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Nightriders - "It's Only The Dog"
           From: Claire Francis 
      2. Re: The Chantays
           From: Mike Bennidict 
      3. Re: Dino Desi & Billy, etc
           From: Anthony Parsons 
      4. Re: Nightriders - "It's Only The Dog"
           From: Claire Francis 
      5. Re: The Nightriders - "It's Only The Dog"
           From: Charles Ulrich 
      6. Nico
           From: Scott Swanson 
      7. Motown UK
           From: Frank Murphy 
      8. Re: The death of vinyl
           From: Matt Spero 
      9. Motown re-issues
           From: Frank Murphy 
     10. Re: Mark Thatcher
           From: Norm D. Plume 
     11. Both sides covered
           From: Dave Heasman 
     12. Re: Nico / Tim Hardin / Lenny Bruce
           From: Norm D. Plume 
     13. Petula Clark Live DVD and in person
           From: Bill Mulvy 
     14. song lyrics
           From: Steve Jarrell 
     15. Re: Nightriders/Idle Race CD situation
           From: David Biasotti 
     16. Luther Dixon aka Barney Williams
           From: Alan Warner 
     17. I. Kadez on HIT
           From: Paul Urbahns 
     18. Re: covers on "Hit"
           From: Joe Nelson 
     19. The Flirtations
           From: James 
     20. Re: The Chantays & Lawrence Welk
           From: Mikey 
     21. Re: Stacy, the label
           From: Einar Einarsson Kvaran 
     22. Hit Records ... of Florida
           From: Paul Urbahns 
     23. Re: Stacy, the label
           From: Gary Myers 
     24. Re: Yet another Hit Records question
           From: Peter McCray 
     25. Re: Dino Desi & Billy
           From: Frank Jastfelder 

Message: 1 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:47:05 EST From: Claire Francis Subject: Re: Nightriders - "It's Only The Dog" Hi Artie, It's nice to know I produced one of your songs! It just sold on E-Bay for 151$... What a trip! Love & Light, ClaireFrancis -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 02:06:42 -0000 From: Mike Bennidict Subject: Re: The Chantays Mikey: > Yea, that clip of the Chantays on Lawrence Welk is AMAZING. I > especially like that guy at the end who says "Well they certainly > are 5 fine looking young men". You're serious? They were on Lawerence Welk? I've only been alive 32 years but I know Welk was a Big Band Leader and though I think he had some country acts, having a surf rock group on the show suprises me. Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 07:18:44 -0000 From: Anthony Parsons Subject: Re: Dino Desi & Billy, etc Frank Jastfelder w > If there's interest and space I will upload another single only > track from DD&B "It's Superman". A nice stomper with a funny spoken > intro. The song is from a musical by Adams/Strouse. Both "If You're Thinking What I'm Thinking" and "Superman" are available on Sundazed's DD&B "Best Of" CD. I'm always surprised when no one mentions these things right away. Here are some catch up comments of my own. To the person who got the Sylvie Vartan 45 I mentioned, glad it went to someone who obviously appreciates it so much. To the guy who offered to send me an MP3 of the song, could you please write to me again, I accidentally deleted your e-mail. I LOVE the Hit Records discussion and really enjoyed seeing the websites devoted to them. My mom used to bring home Hit Records every week but I think some may be shocked at how. They came in bags of potato chips! That's right, they were bagged separately in plastic and included in bags of potato chips with a different selection every week. I don't remeber what brand of chips, though. I was really young then and at first I used to wonder how the 45s kept from getting greasy until she showed me the packaging. At first she would take them out right away before I got home from school. I think I first realized these were NOT the actual artists when we got Blowin' In The Wind by Jimmy, Wayne & Betty! For those of you wondering where this happened, we grew up in an unincorporated community outside Tuscumbia, Alabama (birthplace of Helen Keller). Tuscumbia is also part of the quad-cities area which includes Muscle Shoals. When I was in college, I was lucky enough to become the "unofficial" fifth member of the Muscle Shoals Horns. I was majoring in music at the University of North Alabama and a friend from college was working at Wishbone Studios for Clayton Ivey & Terry Woodford. When an unnamed flute player from Atlanta didn't show for a recording session, I was called in to do it due to my friend, and went immediately the next day to Birmingham to join the AFM so it would be "legal". For the next two years I played many sessions with the Horns, as well as some without them, in all the Muscle Shoals studios and I traveled with them more than once to Nashville to record. I played a few live gigs with them too and they always treated me very well, unlike one or two of the local producers who shall remain nameless. My last recording session was for Jack Tempchin, author of the Eagles' hit Peaceful Easy Feeling, for his own version of that song recorded at what was then the brand-new home of Muscle Shoals Sound after they left the classic 3614 Jackson Highway address. Not long after that, the discos of Chicago beckoned to my dancing feet and I moved away. My path since then has been pretty winding, but included a 15 year 'career' as a nightclub dj which started in SF and eventually led me back to Chicago and much semi-professional work in the community theatre scene of Chicago, a past-time I am currently in the process of reviving. I often wonder what my life would've been like had I remained in Alabama. When I met Jerry Wexler at a session for the Staple Singers, he was very encouraging to me and said I had a bright future as a musician. But overall I really have no regrets. Regrets are pointless anyway. My own Spectropop favorites are Lesley Gore, Cliff Richard, The Mamas & The Papas, Petula Clark and the Shangri-Las, although I love all music of this very broad spectrum. In closing, I'd like to say that I really love the Spectropop group and am continually fascinated by the information which surfaces here. Thanks to all the contributors! Anthony Parsons aka Antone -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 07:58:15 EST From: Claire Francis Subject: Re: Nightriders - "It's Only The Dog" Yo Dogs..... Good Morning you Groovy Spectropop people....Here is a copy of an email I received from Rock of Ages!!! > "After years of searching I finally found myself a copy of my very > favourite Claire Francis production, It's Only The Dog by The > Nightriders, The Nightriders being David Pritchard, Greg Masters, > Roger Spencer and at the time the complete unknown Jeff Lynne who > had just replaced Roy Wood on lead guitar. A year later after this > release the "Nightriders" became the Idyll (then Idle) Race. Both > the A and the B side of this single can be found on "Back To The > Story" CDs by Idle Race which if you find for under $100 these days > you're doing well. And for the single I got a bargain at $151... > Boothferry" I also wrote to the seller of the single and told him to join Spectropop and told him about all the wonderful people in this group and told him he will meet some very groovy and talented people. I hope he listens to me....So, yet another record comes around and I really would love to hear this one since he says it his favourite production. I am in such a state of awe about this all... Artie, so tell me...are we cosmically connected here in CyberSpectroLand? Love & Light, Claire Francis -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:43:10 -0800 From: Charles Ulrich Subject: Re: The Nightriders - "It's Only The Dog" Phil X Milstein: > The label credits reveal some pretty interesting things going on here. > This "Claire Francis Production" is of a song by "Wayne-McCracken." I > don't know if Carl Wayne was in The Nightriders, He wasn't. By this time he was in the Move. Before the Move, Roy Wood had been in Mike Sheridan & the Nightriders, while Carl (as well as Bev Bevan and Ace Kefford) had been in Carl Wayne & the Vikings. --Charles -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 19:14:44 EST From: Scott Swanson Subject: Nico Bill Reed: > Nico, who also wasn't long for this world, had the nerve to sing > "Deutshland Uber Allas" in person. Brave lady trying to play that before a crowd ... actually anyone trying to listen to the album with her version on it is equally brave. Scott -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 08:28:18 +0000 From: Frank Murphy Subject: Motown UK Someone asked: > I've been looking for a UK Motown website -- is there one? I don't think there is an official UK motown site sponsored by Universal music but the unofficial ones are pretty good: -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:30:51 EST From: Matt Spero Subject: Re: The death of vinyl Clark Besch: > By the way, I got a message from Tim at Sundazed that despite the > closing of their vinyl manufacturer, Sundazed will ALWAYS make vinyl > records! Yippee! Joe Nelson: > The question is: how? It is possible they have their own vinyl pressing units. . . I'm sure they are out there from companies that have shut down. . . I even know someone who has the equipment in their garage to make pressings. Matt Spero -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:53:03 +0000 From: Frank Murphy Subject: Motown re-issues I was in Fopp records today and noted about 3/4 Marvin Gaye re-isues on 12" singles. I thought someone might have had the gumption to put some unreleased but sought after Northern or modern soul tracks on the B sides to Grapevine, let's get it on etc but no. I believe Motown had a success with the recent Motown 45 single re issues but they would have had an even bigger success if they had combined a hit A with an unreleased (or CD only) song on the B. Frankm reflections on northern soul Saturday's two thirty pm or listen to an archive show -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:28:59 -0800 (PST) From: Norm D. Plume Subject: Re: Mark Thatcher Tom Diehl wrote: > Does anyone have any info on Mark (Thatcher)? Is he still alive, > and if so, doing what these days? Am I the only person in the UK who finds the idea of Mark Thatcher singing a bluebeat song hilarious? So, Maggie Thatcher gave birth to a bluebeat singer? Gevalt! Doesn't Mark give her enough problems as it is? Norm D. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 22:40:12 -0000 From: Dave Heasman Subject: Both sides covered Davie Gordon wrote: > It looks as if they were issued more or less simultaneously. Curious > that both singles couple both the same songs -- that must be pretty > unusual. Lyn Nuttall: > The double-sided duplication is interesting: it reminds me of the > Diamonds covering both sides of The Rays' "Silhouettes " /"Daddy > Cool," but no doubt there are other cases. The English Wild Willie Harris covered Bobby Rydell's Wild One/Little Bitty Girl and someone whose name I forget covered Eddie Smith & The Hornets' Upturn/Border Beat. Smith's "Upturn" is the best guitar instrumental ever made. I reckon. Dave -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:23:35 -0800 (PST) From: Norm D. Plume Subject: Re: Nico / Tim Hardin / Lenny Bruce Phil X Milstein wrote: > Nico recorded a Hardin composition, "Eulogy To Lenny Bruce," on her > first solo album. Is Hardin's version readily available? ... The > nexus of Hardin/Nico/Bruce is especially fitting, in a tragic way, > in that all three died from the effects of heroin. There is a concert version by Tim Hardin on "T.H. 3"; he never did a studio version. It is stunning and may be the one on the Lenny Bruce tribute album. Tim H. did live at Lenny Bruce's for a while. And didn't Nico die in a rather bizarre way, by falling off her bicycle? She was living in the UK at the time and had, apparently, cleaned up, so I guess heroin was not directly or immediately involved. Tragic all the same. And to bring the circle back to Lenny Bruce - he told the story, on one of his records, about actor Bela Lugosi, who was a junkie for years, "he cleans up, then drops dead". Norm D. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 17:52:06 -0600 From: Bill Mulvy Subject: Petula Clark Live DVD and in person Anthony Parsons: > My own Spectropop favorites are Lesley Gore, Cliff Richard, The > Mamas & The Papas, Petula Clark and the Shangri-Las, although I > love all music of this very broad spectrum. In closing, I'd like > to say that I really love the Spectropop group and am continually > fascinated by the information which surfaces here. Thanks to all > the contributors! Anthony, I am also a big Petula Clark fan. I would highly recommend the Petula Clark DVD, Live in Paris. The performance is excellent. Circuit City dot com sells it online. Also Petula will be appearing live with Andy Williams (separately), in Branson Missouri in the spring and fall of this year. I think each run is for six straight weeks. She is also doing some east coast dates as well. Bill Mulvy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 00:04:58 -0000 From: Steve Jarrell Subject: song lyrics S'poppers, Normally I wouldn't bother the group with trivia, however, I need some help. A caller called my radio show today and said that she had been looking for 30+ years for a song with a repeated lyric phrase, "The children of St. Monica". She said she thought it came out between 1966-68. Any idea? I'm at a lost so I thought I would ask the group. Thanks, Steve Jarrell -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 00:25:44 -0000 From: David Biasotti Subject: Re: Nightriders/Idle Race CD situation Scott's quite right about the frightening prices being asked for the "Back to the Story" Idle Race anthology. As for that long- gestating EMI box, my understanding is that it is happening, but the question is when. Dave Pritchard of the Nightriders/Idle Race had told me as early as September, but, from talking to Rob Caiger, who's putting the set together, I don't think that's so. (I think EMI _is_ finally reissuing the Move's "Message from the Country" that month, though. (That one's been held up for 4 years, waiting for liner note contributions from Roy Wood, that he never got around to writing - they're just going with what Jeff Lynne & Bev Bevan contributed.) Having never myself heard the Nightriders single under discussion, I can't add anything there, but, for anyone interested in this kind of thing, the spring issue of Ugly Things will feature Part One of a fairly lengthy interview I did with Mike Sheridan & Rick Price a couple of months ago, on the occasion of the recent President reissue of their album "This is to Certify That." The first installment covers the Nightriders up through when Roy Wood & then Mike Sheridan split the band, & Rick Price's pre-Move bands, the Cimarrons & Sight and Sound. all the best, David -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:33:22 -0800 From: Alan Warner Subject: Luther Dixon aka Barney Williams Previously: > The book I'm currently reading, Genya Ravan's memoir "Lollipop > Lounge," cryptically refers to Dixon as "aka Barney Williams." > Anyone know what that means? As I understand it, Barney Williams is Luther Dixon's brother and is credited as co-writer on the Shirelles hit song BABY IT'S YOU alongside Burt Bacharach and Mack David, Hal's brother. Rock on! Alan Warner -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 19:26:26 EST From: Paul Urbahns Subject: I. Kadez on HIT Unfortunately there are no files left from Hit as I understand it talking to some of the primary folks involved. However there are several times an artist name is used only once. I always assumed I Kadez was for I Can Dance. But seems like that would have been a better name to put on Do You Love Me (The Contours hit, notice the small h) because the phrase is used there. However I keep remembering an incident in Hit Records where a hardware store operator in Texas was selling so many Hit singles out of his rack that as a joke (and a thank you or sorts) they put his name on one of the records as an artist. Supposedly, the little girls in town would not leave him alone or believe that he only sold Hits and did not make them. So there is always a possibily I Kadez was a hardware salesman. Paul Urbahns the Hit man -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 17:44:29 -0500 From: Joe Nelson Subject: Re: covers on "Hit" Sometimes the whole "cover version" matter that Hit epitomized can backfire. My wife has a cassette of an LP of "movie themes" (if you believe the title) played by some faceless orchestra. Through that record she became enamored with the song "Music Box Dancer". Trouble is, she grew up listening to this pointless fake and prefers it to the less familiar (to her) original by Frank Mills. Try finding that cover on CD :-| Joe Nelson -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 02:26:01 -0000 From: James Subject: The Flirtations Legendary Girl Group Singers came across another "Blues and Soul" article from 1974 promoting the Flirtations' single "Dirty Work." I can post the article if anyone wants it icludes a rare picture of the group. If its not too much trouble - I have every song by the Flirtations EXCEPT for "Dirty Work" and "No Such Thing As A Miracle.." the b-side. Seeing this article has only only made me more ashamed of being their #1 fan and not having those songs. If there is anyone who can put the song up in musica or e-mail it to me at I would be estatic! --James -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:25:39 -0400 From: Mikey Subject: Re: The Chantays & Lawrence Welk Yes, The Chantays appeared on the Lawrence Welk Shpw in mid 1963, miming to the 45 of 'Pipeline" playing in the backround. The story is this: Pipeline was first distributed in California to stores on the local Princess Label. After the song became a strong regional hit, Dot records of Los Angeles picked up the record for National distribution. As it happened, Lawrence Welk was also on DOT Records. So, the powers that be at DOT asked Welk to feature The Chantays on the show to give the 45 a very strong National boost. And it did. Interviewed in the 1970s, Wlek admitted that he really liked the sound of "Pipeline" and thought is was a "great little record by boys so young". That Lawrence Welk.....what a Cut-up!!!! Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 23:08:02 -0800 (PST) From: Einar Einarsson Kvaran Subject: Re: Stacy, the label Previously: > Would anybody have any input on this label, and maybe an idea who > else recorded on it? It is my understabding that Al Casey is living in Phoenix now, or was fairly recently. I wonder if he is approachable for this sort of question? Einar -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 22:19:07 EST From: Paul Urbahns Subject: Hit Records ... of Florida Chris Rowling wrote: > In my 5000-strong collection of sixties 45s there is only one > single on the Hit label and that is Chuck Reed's Just Plain Hurt That is a Florida label and not related to the Nashville Hit label. Paul Urbahns -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:23:25 -0800 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: Stacy, the label Bobster: > Also on Stacy was The Torkays' "Karate" / "I Don't Like It," from > 1963... I know next to nothing about the group. The Stacy guy whom I mentioned in my response to the same post was the leader of the Torkays. gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 19:44:37 +1100 From: Peter McCray Subject: Re: Yet another Hit Records question I've been following the various threads on Hit Records with great interest. Does anyone know if Status Quo's 1968 psychedelic classic 'Pictures of Matchstick Men' ever got the Hit treatment? Peter -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:58:01 +0100 From: Frank Jastfelder Subject: Re: Dino Desi & Billy Sorry, I was not aware of the Sundazed CD. Of course this supercedes my offer for uploading "Superman". Frank Jastfelder -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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