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Spectropop - Digest Number 1813

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Help with a Chicago-area song
           From: Gary Myers 
      2. R.I.P. Solomon King
           From: Eddy 
      3. Carol Connors
           From: Country Paul 
      4. Miracles' miraculous material
           From: Phil X Milstein 
      5. Re: Toni Fisher
           From: Barry Margolis 
      6. Sandy
           From: Steve Harvey 
      7. Roy Orbison bios/"Penny Arcade"
           From: S.J. Dibai 
      8. Re: Billy Stewart
           From: Dave Monroe 
      9. Re: Help with a Chicago-area song
           From: James  Holvay 
     10. Austin Roberts yahoogroup
           From: Steve Fuji 
     11. Hey Harmonica Man
           From: Jeff Lemlich 
     12. Re: Beatles on Vee Jay
           From: Claire Francis 
     13. Walker Brothers
           From: Mark 
     14. RIP Johnny Carson; "Summer Holiday"; Achy Macarena
           From: Country Paul 
     15. Nashville S'poppers
           From: Ed Salamon 
     16. RE: Crimson and clover, over and over
           From: Michael Thom 
     17. Re: Harry Pitch and The Beatles
           From: Larry Watts Jr 
     18. Re: Solomon King, R.I.P.
           From: Scott Swanson 
     19. Mr & Mrs Goffin/Joe Brown/Rolling Stones
           From: Ken Silverwood 
     20. Cartoonists; One hit wonders; Chuck Berry
           From: Country Paul 
     21. Mamie Van Doren!
           From: Holly Cara Price 
     22. She Wears My Ring
           From: Country Paul 
     23. Little Eva
           From: Larry Watts Jr 
     24. The Chiffons
           From: S G L 
     25. Re: The Montanas
           From: Steve Fuji 

Message: 1 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:38:33 -0800 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: Help with a Chicago-area song Nick Archer: > ... his all time favorite song which was, in his words, > "called "Sandy" and it was by this group before they became > the American Breed". Don't know the song, but Gary & the Nite Lites was a forerunner of American Breed. (I assume it's none of the ones by Larry Hall, Ronnie & the Daytonas or Dion). gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:08:04 +0100 From: Eddy Subject: R.I.P. Solomon King In spite of what I wrote in my previous post on King, can anybody actually confirm that King was ever a member of the Jordanaires, let alone backing up Elvis? I seem to be drawing a blank when it comes to any decent bit of info on the man, except for the mention of his solo chart entries and whatever the news agencies have to say today re: his death... Eddy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:43:27 -0500 From: Country Paul Subject: Carol Connors Just got a note - and a very dark photo - from Carol Connors, our strongly-Republican favorite Teddy Bear: "Me and the Presidential Seal before I sang our National Anthem at the California [Inaugural] Ball and before President Bush arrived." As I said, the picture of her is very dark, but the seal is very bright....If you're interested, I'll be glad to forward it off-list. More trying to catch up soon. Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 15:06:54 -0500 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Miracles' miraculous material Can anyone recommend a good, comprehensive Miracles compilation? In-print preferred, but not necessarily necessary. Thanks, --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:13:49 -0600 From: Barry Margolis Subject: Re: Toni Fisher Peter Lerner wrote: > West Of The Wall (same melody as Toot Toot)/What Did I Do 1962 Lyn: > Australians loved 'West Of The Wall'.... What intrigues me > is 'Toot Toot' which on the face of it sounds miles away > from the Berlin Wall. The melody of "Toot Toot Amore" is exactly the same....and the arrangement is nearly identical. Barry -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:32:07 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Sandy Nick Archer wrote: > I was speaking with a friend who grew up in Chicago, > and he mentioned his all time favorite song which > was, in his words, called "Sandy", and it was by > this group before they became the American Breed". Isn't that the tune that was done by the Sunrays and the Swinging Blue Jeans? Steve Harvey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:04:20 -0000 From: S.J. Dibai Subject: Roy Orbison bios/"Penny Arcade" Hi, everyone. I was thinking about our recent discussions of Roy Orbison last night and did some looking around. First of all, Gary Myers, the bio you disliked was indeed Alan Clayson's "Only The Lonely"--I found your review of it. Many of the customer reviews, yours included, said that book had numerous factual errors. Maybe I didn't catch them because the writing was so hard to follow, or because I was just a kid who didn't know any better at the time, I don't know. Yet, if I remember correctly, Ellis Amburn's "Dark Star"--the good bio--did contain at least one glaring mistake. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember Amburn claiming that "Penny Arcade" was a #1 hit in Australia in 1965, even acknowledging that that was four years before Roy had it out in the US. But I've never seen anything else that confirms that, nor have I found any recordings of "Penny Arcade" that sound like they could have come from 1965. I don't know how the guy could have made such an elementary goof, unless there really WAS a 1965 recording of "Penny Arcade" that hit it big down under. Maybe some of our Australian S'Poppers can shed some light on this. Well, as Phil Milstein said, "Dark Star" may not be perfect, but until a better bio comes along.... S.J. Dibai -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:21:15 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Monroe Subject: Re: Billy Stewart Dave O'Gara: > anybody like Billy Stewart's version of Secret Love? I'm glad you mentioned this. I have it on a Northern Soul CD comp or two, but it probably wouldn't have caught my eye when I came across a 45 of it the other day had I not been reminded of it. Crazy! Not exactly my thing (though not disagreeable, either), but we do a weekly soul spin, and there are regulars who'll get a kick out of it. Perfect for my Valentine's Day night, at which I meet a doo-wop spinnin' friend somewhere ca. Motown (I'm usually on an edgier mod R&B/soul tip, sidling up to the late 60s funk that many of my friends/guests tend to collect). Also picked up a (the?) Ronnie Milsap soul 45, among some other oft-shortlisted items. Thanks! Dave Monroe -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 15:01:27 -0800 From: James Holvay Subject: Re: Help with a Chicago-area song Nick Archer: > I was speaking with a friend who grew up in Chicago, and he > mentioned his all time favorite song which was, in his words, > "called "Sandy", and it was by this group before they became > the American Breed". Nick: The group's precious name was Gary & The Nitelights. James -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 00:39:44 -0000 From: Steve Fuji Subject: Austin Roberts yahoogroup I would like to invite Spectropop members to join a group I recently created for Austin Roberts. Austin has been participating in the group and it has been very active. Come see for yourself. Thanks, Steve Fuji -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:33:07 -0500 From: Jeff Lemlich Subject: Hey Harmonica Man Dave Heasman: > Very much doubt it. Proper funky harmonicas could be heard on > "Hey Baby", Roy Orbison's "Candy Man" & Ann Margret's "I Just > Don't Understand". That sound was in the air. And of course, "Candy Man" and "I Just Don't Understand" feature the same harmonica player (Charlie McCoy). Jeff Lemlich -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 09:56:33 EST From: Claire Francis Subject: Re: Beatles on Vee Jay Hi Barry, Do you have any memory of Transglobal Music and Roland Rennie. I worked with them when they placed the Beatles on Vee Jay, it was a lot of paperwork!! Transglobal Music was the New York office for EMI. Roland Rennie sent their records to several record companies before Vee Jay, and then Capitol picked them up. Please let me know what you remember, if anything. Most probably, it was just a lot of paperwork, but, who knows... Love & Light, Claire Francis -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:43:50 -0000 From: Mark Subject: Walker Brothers Hello all, I would like to appeal to your good nature. In 1969, The Walker Brothers played a concert in the Korakuen Stadium, Tokyo. The show was broadcast later that evening on Japanese T.V., so must have been filmed in some format or other. I am trying to find anybody that has knowledge of anybody that has Japanese contacts or info on how I might be able to obtain a copy of this concert on film, video or DVD etc... I will be very grateful for any help on this matter. Also I have lots of rare Scott Walker material if anyone is interested (contact me offlist) Kind regards, Mark. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 20:48:53 -0500 From: Country Paul Subject: RIP Johnny Carson; "Summer Holiday"; Achy Macarena RIP Johnny Carson, age 79, of emphysema. Credit to the man for (1) immense talent (2) being a cultural institution unmatched and probably unmatchable and (3) going out on top and staying out so that the legend lived on undimmed. Martin Roberts: > In tribute to Jimmy Griffin the Record of the Week on the Home > page is "Summer Holiday". Not a hit and perhaps it was a good > thing, he might have found himself being labelled 'Whistling' > Jimmy Griffin: About as sweet as it gets without causing tooth decay! The Four Preps lite? Perhaps, the One Prep?!? How 'bout white Bread??? OK, enough bad jokes.... Dave M: > I (quite fortunately, I think) spent years without hearing, only > hearing about, say, "The Macarena" or "Achy Breaky Heart" .... "Achy" was fun the first couple of times; it's amazing what over- exposure can do to even a good song (not to say that "Achy" was, but it was a fun record IMO). If you can find an original version of the Macarena, before it got remixed, you'll find a folkier-feeling song, complete with a bridge and some structure and without the whomping dance-beat, that actually is worth a listen. Now back to our regular era.... Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:30:53 -0000 From: Ed Salamon Subject: Nashville S'poppers Nashville S'poppers met to honor MGM/RCA producer Danny Davis. Danny told us the stories behind songs he produced for Connie Francis, The Quotations ("Imagination"); Nina Simone, Waylon Jennings, Floyd Cramer, etc., as well as own Cabot single, "The Object of My Affection", which was on the KFWB and WINS charts at this time in 1958. Newcomer Tony Moon squeezed in some of his Dante and the Evergreens stories. Photo is posted at S'pop. Ed Salamon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 18:56:04 -0600 From: Michael Thom Subject: RE: Crimson and clover, over and over I can finally answer Charles Hill's message of December 26, in which he wrote: >There is a sixth version of "Crimson", which appeared on the first >Dick Bartley "On the Radio" compilation for Varese Vintage, which >seems to be an actual stereo mix of Version 1 with the proper IP2. Indeed, it *is* the stereo single version with the proper IP2 and not the reconstruction of IP2 that Rhino had done before. I had the Bartley CD but hadn't realized that version had the correct IP2. The question then became: How could that be, since I know the multi-track master was spliced to create the long version? Bartley did not recall how they did the stereo single with the correct IP2, but I have since figured out how it must have happened. There is an Italian version of "Crimson" that was done in stereo, and sure enough, it was done before the long version was constructed, so the Italian stereo mix is the single version with the correct IP2. What Bartley must have done is cut in the correct IP2 to the US stereo long version, then cut back to the ending from the US long version. And it works. Interestingly, the Italian version has different stereo imagery in places compared with the US long version. There is no IP2 in the US long version, so there's no stereo imagery to match there, but the two bars that begin with the cymbal crash and lead into the fade section are mixed differently in the two versions. The snare drum taps are mixed into the left channel with other instruments on the US long version, but are isolated in the right channel on the Italian single. So, Bartley cut back into the US long version at the cymbal crash. The Italian version appeared on a various artists CD called "Rock Around the World" which features a number of US hits recorded in foreign languages. The Italian "Crimson and Clover" has two glitches during the two-bar section beginning with the cymbal crash. With some very careful editing, I was able to repair those. A couple of other TJ notes: Clark Besch noted that TJ's production and mix of "Ginger Bread Man" on the flip of "Do Something to Me," differs from the stereo version on the "Mony Mony" LP. TJ's mix has more punch, and the vocal is echoed at the end of "yes, I can" near the end of the song, while there's no echo on the stereo mix. The fade is also about 11 seconds longer than the stereo version. The single version of "Run, Run, Baby, Run" on the flip of "Mirage" has additional backing vocals not present on the stereo mix, just as the single version of "Mirage" does. Neither of these unique B-side mixes has ever appeared on an LP or CD, nor has the original version of "Draggin' the Line" (sans horns) that is on the flip of "Church Street Soul Revival." With respect to TJ's productions for other artists, I'd appreciate hearing from anyone who has a stock copy of the Fat Daddy single (Mercury 73304) or a stock or promo copy of Joey Greco's single issued at the same time (Mercury 73305). Michael Thom -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 03:15:53 -0000 From: Larry Watts Jr Subject: Re: Harry Pitch and The Beatles Dave Heasman wrote: > Very much doubt it. Proper funky harmonicas could be heard on > "Hey Baby", Roy Orbison's "Candy Man" & Ann Margret's "I Just > Don't Understand". That sound was in the air. > The Beatles didn't issue an LP with Ifield, EMI did. On the comp "Pre Fab!! The Rock & Roll and R'n' B That Inspired Lennon & McCartney" Ann-Margret's "I Just Don't Understand" is included and it's noted that the boys performed it on "Pop Goes The Beatles". Small world... pres -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:26:47 -0800 From: Scott Swanson Subject: Re: Solomon King, R.I.P. Eddy writes: > Born Allen Levy, Solomon King died of cancer in Oklahoma at > the age of 73. He was the first white singer to tour with > Billie Holiday and was a member of the Jordanaires and as > such backed Elvis Presley. But he may be best known for > the records he made under his own name, which included the > hit She Wears My Ring, a top 5 hit in 1967. I thought he was English? Wasn't "She Wears My Ring" a U.K. production? Curious, Scott -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:07:24 -0000 From: Ken Silverwood Subject: Mr & Mrs Goffin/Joe Brown/Rolling Stones Whilst doing a mass migration of LPs from daughter's bedroom to converted loft, I spent some time perusing through my trove and lighted upon the album " Don't Play That Song" by Ben E King, London Atlantic HA-K 8012 . Reading through the credits I noticed the title" Show Me The Way" crediting a certain Gerald Goffin & Carole Goffin is this the only time Carole was given her married name? Back in the swirly mists of time I half recall a package tour of halls/cinemas with Joe & his Bruvvers headlining, I attended the show at the Opera House in my town of Blackpool early 1964, the rest of the package (I think) included Rolling Stones, Manfred Mann & The Crystals(Manfreds on backing). I recall Joe always played "All Things Bright & Beautiful" as an acoustic piece in those days. The Rolling Stones next appeared here at the Empire Ballroom in late 1964, they had a hit or two under their belts by then, anyway a riot started and the Rolling Stones were banned from ever appearing in Blackpool again, the ban is still in place. Last year Bill Wyman & his Rhythm Kings actually made an appearance in that original hall,nobody mentioned the ban. Right back to the loft. Ken On The West Coast (in the loft) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 12:54:30 -0500 From: Country Paul Subject: Cartoonists; One hit wonders; Chuck Berry Phil Milstein wrote: > Color me sincerely impressed. The closest thing to a celebrity > among my parents' friends when I was a kid was someone who knew > the guy who drew Mutt & Jeff. Dave Berg, who did "Berg's Eye View" for Mad Magazine, lived in our aparetment development when I was a kid, and used me as an occasional model for his strip. Austin Roberts wrote: > I love one hit wonders as well. I've always felt there was magic > in these records. The artist or group put everything they had > into one killer record. My favorite one hitter is the Elegants > LITTLE STAR. ...or everything they were able to break through withg, as the Elegants had releases for several years after, the closest to a hit being "Goodnight," which actually sold a bunch of copies in Providence, RI where it was used as the closing theme for DJ Joe Thomas. The one-hit artists I wonder about are the ones who got only one release, and it hit. The Ducanes' "I'm So Happy" on Goldic, produced by Phil Spector, comes to mind. Anyone with others - one hit, nothing else out there? Karen Andrews wrote: > Chuck Berry Plays Sold Out Show in Prague..... > Worth checking out:, which reveals that Berry is doing voice-overs for an airline. Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 15:42:30 -0500 From: Holly Cara Price Subject: Mamie Van Doren! Does anyone out yonder have any recordings by Mamie Van Doren? Please email me off-list if so! Thanks- Holly -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 13:03:47 -0500 From: Country Paul Subject: She Wears My Ring Eddy: > Born Allen Levy, Solomon King died of cancer in Oklahoma at the > age of 73. He was the first white singer to tour with Billie > Holiday and was a member of the Jordanaires and as such backed > Elvis Presley. But he may be best known for the records he made > under his own name, which included the hit She Wears My Ring, a > top 5 hit in 1967. I thought Roy Orbison and a country singer named Jimmy Bell (on Hickory) had the hits with this song. Am I wrong? Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 03:28:09 -0000 From: Larry Watts Jr Subject: Little Eva A few months back, while waiting for five hours to meet Eddie Izzard at an in-store at Tower Records, I did some clearance- bin diving and found a CD by the little one called "Back To Basics". I grabbed it because I'd never heard of it and it was only a few bucks. As I'd bought a pile of CDs, it got filed away and I kinda forgot about it. Last week I was bin diving again at the local Media Play and I found another copy. I bought it for the hell of it. It was apparently recorded around '88 and it sounds it. Her voice was as good as ever and the ballads are good in that "the heroine overcomes her inhibition/obstacle scene" background music so prevalent in the late eighties. Still, lesser diva wannabes had bigger hits with lesser tunes at the time. The upbeat stuff is as over produced and metallic as it gets and a bit painful at times. Does anyone know anything about this album? Hula hoppin' with Sister Idalia, pres -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 03:37:40 -0800 (PST) From: S G L Subject: The Chiffons Hey all.... Im working on a Chiffons site, Im also doing a Dixie cups one. I am looking for anything to help get it pretty complete, so if you have anything you can scan and email, I will work it into the site. I'm hoping to contact one or two original group members to get some input, or involvement. Failing that it will be much like Any help appreciated off-list. Thanks. SGL -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 00:49:26 -0000 From: Steve Fuji Subject: Re: The Montanas Bill Mulvy: > "You've Got To Be Loved" is on the Rock N Roll Roots Vol 6 CD > recently released by WDRV radio in Chicago. The sound is fantastic, > (better than the Dick Bartley version) and is in stereo, unlike > The Montanas' hit compilation, where it appears in mono. It's strange that the Greatest Hits compilation is in mono and the copy on the Dick Bartley compilation is in Stereo since they are both Varese Saraband releases. I bought "You've Got To Be Loved" and "Run To Me" on 45s as a 12 year old with my hard earned allowance money and they have always been among my favorites. Glad to see so many other people also liked them. I wasn't familiar with their other releases until I got the CD. They really should have gotten a lot more hits here-the reasons why they didn't are detailed in the liner notes of the CD. Steve Fuji -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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