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Spectropop - Digest Number 1812

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There are 11 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Doo-Wop Help Required
           From: Mick Patrick 
      2. Solomon King, R.I.P.
           From: Eddy 
      3. Re: Toni Fisher
           From: Bob Rashkow 
      4. Help with a Chicago-area song
           From: Nick Archer 
      5. Louise Forestier and Beau Dommage; "Whiter Shade"; Holly and Valens movies; Amburn's Orbison
           From: Country Paul 
      6. The mysterious " Lavander Girl".
           From: Julio Niño 
      7. Re: answering the answers
           From: Karl Ikola 
      8. Beatles on Vee Jay
           From: Barry Margolis 
      9. Re: Goldie & the Gingerbreads
           From: Tony Leong 
     10. Re: Toni Fisher
           From: Lyn Nuttall 
     11. Re: Holly and Valens movies
           From: Phil X Milstein 

Message: 1 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:03:11 -0000 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Doo-Wop Help Required Any doo-wop collectors out there? Hope so, 'cos I could do with some expert assistance. I badly need to hear some tracks. There are hundreds of doo-wop compilation CDs in the world. Tell me please, are any of the following tracks available therein. Better still, does anyone have any of the original 45s: The Markeys – Yakkaty Yak (RCA 47-7256) 1958 The Markeys – Make A Record Man (sic) (RCA 47-7412) 1958 The Markeys – Time To Love (RCA 47-7412) 1958 The Lonely Ones – I Want My Girl (Sir 270) 1959 Sal Mure – Desire (United Artists 153) 1958 Sal Mure – Morse Code (United Artists 153) 1958 Thanks in advance. Hey la, Mick Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 08:59:16 +0100 From: Eddy Subject: Solomon King, R.I.P. Born Allen Levy, Solomon King died of cancer in Oklahoma at the age of 73. He was the first white singer to tour with Billie Holiday and was a member of the Jordanaires and as such backed Elvis Presley. But he may be best known for the records he made under his own name, which included the hit She Wears My Ring, a top 5 hit in 1967. Eddy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:58:34 EST From: Bob Rashkow Subject: Re: Toni Fisher My cousin used to have a 45 of "West of the Wall", Toni's only other Top 40, but I never did remember hearing the B-side "What Did I Do". I suspect this might be the same tune done by The Essex (b/w Curfew Lover, 1964, Roulette)--yea? Nay? Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:02:39 -0600 From: Nick Archer Subject: Help with a Chicago-area song I was speaking with a friend who grew up in Chicago, and he mentioned his all time favorite song which was, in his words, "called "Sandy", and it was by this group before they became the American Breed". Does anyone know this song, or better yet, can it be played to musica? Nick Archer Check out Nashville's classic pop and soft rock radio station SM95, now streaming at -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:17:48 -0500 From: Country Paul Subject: Louise Forestier and Beau Dommage; "Whiter Shade"; Holly and Valens movies; Amburn's Orbison I hope folks are enjoying "Pierrot les cheveux" playing on musica. I just received two more French Canadian CD reissues, Louise Forestier, "La Prison de Londres" (title track is exceptional, and the rest is pretty impressive - more folk-progressive than pop); and Beay Dommage's first album (heard about half so far - very pleasant acoustic pop/folk/ rock). I'm still keeping an eye out for Le Coeur d'une Generation's album, from which "Pierrot" comes. Special thanks to Denis Gagnon for the extraordinary guided tour into this music. Back to playing catch-up - from posts of the past week: Frank Murphy, Subject: "Whiter Shade Of Pale" > At the time several critics felt it had been influenced by Jacques > Louissier and his Play Bach albums, but I gather the band were > listening to Percy Sledge more than Johann Sebastian. Perhaps in that Loussier took Bach toward jazz and Procol Harum took him toward rock. Beyond that I hear no similarities. Dave O'Gara: > ...[A]nybody like Billy Stewart's version of Secret Love? Not really; I found the vocal acrobatics admirable but not enjoyable. Re: The Buddy Holly Story (movie), I don't think it's as bad as Joe Nelson does, but it sadly missed being great by a bunch. Nonetheless, there was a lot of the feeling of the time, as I remember (I saw it a long time ago). And I remember Charles Martin-Smith being in it; if I recall, I thought he was pretty good. By the way, what do folks feel about La Bamba, the Ritchie Valens movie starring Lou Diamond Phillips? S. J. Dibai, re: Roy Orbison bios: > ..."Dark Star: The Roy Orbison Story" by Ellis Amburn was pretty > good. I read that also, and also a while back. Amburn did at least one or two other bios, and I remember him getting pretty well slammed for them. But I also remember thinking that he did a good job with The Big O. I haven't encountered the Clayson volume, but perhaps the verbiage encumbering this sentence might reflect S. J.'s opinion of it! Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:11:58 -0000 From: Julio Niño Subject: The mysterious " Lavander Girl". Hola Everybody. I've been listening to the fascinating "Lavander Girl" by Patty Michaels, currently in musica, (thanks to Martin Roberts for providing it). Maybe it's because I can't understand half of the lyrics but I find it rather mysterious. I don't know why I perceive some lesbian nuances in the song. Perhaps I'm hallucinating, or maybe my fantasies are dominating me. Anyway I think the track is wonderful. I'm going to listen to it again, and try to decipher the lyrics, (considering my English capacities I'd better get a crystal ball). Chao. Julio Niño. PS: The first notes remind me of "I can't help it if I'm still in love with you..."). -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:06:04 -0800 From: Karl Ikola Subject: Re: answering the answers Phil X Milstein wrote: > I've been wondering lately why some records seem to generate a > certain kind of excited attention, demonstrated by such things as > answer records, parodies, quickie knockoffs and other artifacts of > "buzz," while other records may be every bit as popular, yet fail > to inspire such a response... Individual artistic inspiration can't be discounted. Some songs (I imagine) simply hit the right person at the right time, inspiring an "answer". That the (commonly, as in "non-answer" cases) one way street of compose, record, play and sell record (and sheet music in the olden days) spins off into sequel of same via the answer record simply recouples the progeny directly with its own precursor. A kind of battle between parent and child. A camouflaged clone if you will. The Spokesmen's "The Dawn Of Correction" really was a right wing, non-ironic response to "Eve Of Destruction", but it's hard not to hear it as ironic today. And this answer song probably speaks more to an "inspiration" by Barry McGuire's over-the-top hit record than the understated (yet seething) P.F. Sloan original, sorry to say. Others, like Bob Seger's "The Yellow Beret" answer "The Green Beret" as more of a stag party stakes raising, as it's not morally opposed to the original's message, just aiming to mutate the imagery a bit for yuks and potentially easy money. KI -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:04:40 -0600 From: Barry Margolis Subject: Beatles on Vee Jay Even though Vee Jay was, by 1964, a very screwed up company, no one can fault them for their various Beatles reissues. They were in a financial pickle, and with all of the lawsuits against them by both Capitol and Bob Crewe, After issuing two bomb Beatles singles, in 1963, when "I Want To Hold Your Hand" broke so big in January, 1964, it made perfect sense for VJ to 'reservice' their poor selling album by removing the two tracks "Love Me Do" and "P.S. I Love You", which Capitol's publishing wing was all up in arm about and to reissue the album. The singles they put out in 1964 all sold bloody well. When "I Remember You" was a hit by Ifield....on Vee Jay, they didn't have enough Ifield tracks to issue an album, so they did it with additional Beatles tracks. The Beatles vs. The Four Seasons and the subsequent "Songs, Hits & Pictures" repackaging was bit out of left field, but, remember the pressure Vee Jay was under. Of course, all of this finally settled when Capitol bought all 14 Beatles and issued "The Early Beatles". So, in my view (and I was there at the time), Vee Jay was by no means 'the bad guys' as far as their exploiting the Beatles tracks in their possession. Barry in Minneapolis -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 03:58:37 -0000 From: Tony Leong Subject: Re: Goldie & the Gingerbreads Tim Rolls: > Does anyone know whether Goldie & The Gingerbreads ever made an > album, or whether a compilation was ever made (LP or, preferably, > CD). If so, does anyone have any details? Tim: Though Goldie and the Gingerbreads recorded lots of sides for Scepter and Atlantic affiliates in the mid-60's, they never had an LP out in the US or UK. Currently, there is no Gingerbreads compilation available (nobody ever got one together). Their cuts appear on some Uk Cd's though. Recently, I gave on of those CD's to Genya and Margo and they hadn't heard some of those tracks since the '60's when they recorded them!!!!!! Tony -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:05:18 +1000 From: Lyn Nuttall Subject: Re: Toni Fisher Peter Lerner wrote: > West Of The Wall (same melody as Toot Toot)/What Did I Do 1962 Australians loved 'West Of The Wall'. Gavin Ryan's Aussie chart books have it at #1 in Melbourne & Adelaide, #2 in Sydney & Brisbane. What intrigues me is 'Toot Toot' which on the face of it sounds miles away from the Berlin Wall. Lyn -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:13:37 -0500 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: Holly and Valens movies Country Paul wrote: > By the way, what do folks feel about La Bamba, the Ritchie > Valens movie starring Lou Diamond Phillips? I thought it was pretty corny. I keep waiting for Hollywood to complete the trilogy by making the bioflick "Hello, Baby: The Story Of The Big Bopper." But is Hollywood listening to me? Not so far. Will I what? --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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