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There are 20 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: France Gall
           From: Jean-Emmanuel Dubois 
      2. Re: Bobby Darin
           From: Clark Besch 
      3. Re: A Whiter Shade Of Pale
           From: Richard Havers 
      4. Seals & Crofts on T-A; Ramrods
           From: Country Paul 
      5. Bang/Shout discog. info
           From: Niels Junker-Poulsen 
      6. Bobby Darin; Procol Harum
           From: Country Paul 
      7. fresh Pet
           From: Bill Mulvy 
      8. Re: Joe Jeffrey Group
           From: Lyn Nuttall 
      9. Re: different British versions
           From: Jeff Lemlich 
     10. Re: 45s and EPs
           From: Frank 
     11. Re: The Arkade - Where You Lead
           From: Steve Fuji 
     12. Re: Ramrods Rockin'?
           From: James Botticelli 
     13. Re: French covers
           From: Dave Monroe 
     14. Re: Samantha Jones; "Summer is Over"
           From: Julio Niño 
     15. Joe Brown
           From: Country Paul 
     16. Fascinating archive at Black Cat Rockabilly
           From: Country Paul 
     17. Re: Bobby Darin
           From: That Alan Gordon 
     18. Re: Louisville's Own
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     19. Re: Dusty B-sides
           From: Jeff Lemlich 
     20. Re: Ramrods Rockin'?
           From: Steve Harvey 

Message: 1 Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 21:49:59 +0100 From: Jean-Emmanuel Dubois Subject: Re: France Gall Dave Monroe wrote: > The Sexologie comp is out of print, but there's one called Dingo > that might yet be available. I got it on both CD and LP from Dusty > Groove America which is typically a > good source for at least reissued French material here. But there's also > a nice Jazzman reissue 45 out as well. Again, try DGA, if not Jazzman > itself. There's also a cover on a Japanese comp called Cuties. And Frankenstein by France Gall, what a killer too. It's a '74 song by Serge Gainsbourg and with a great video with Jacques Dutronc (in fact in the '60s and '70s the leading pop shows were done by the Carpentier and you were able to see lots of artists meeting and playing, singing other artist songs, etc.) JED -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 20:54:07 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Re: Bobby Darin Artie Wayne wrote: > Everytime I'd see him, the first thing he wanted to know > was how I was getting along after being one of the first people > in the U.S. to have open heart surgery in 1965. Artie, I musta missed your heart transplant story--WOW, 1965? As scary as it is today, I can imagine (no, I can't!) how worried you must have been about the procedure back then. I assume your heart has lasted nearly 40 years now? Amazing thing. Glad you are here with us to relate these great stories of music. Hope it lasts another 40! The fact that you wrote a B-side for Darin and Alan Gordon wrote the cool '67 A-side, "She Knows", I would think Darin due for a box set with these more hard-to-find sides, don't you? Now is the time, Rhino Records! Now, Alan, your story on "She Knows" and how Darin came to record it and if you met him and talked about his recording, please? Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 21:58:47 +0000 From: Richard Havers Subject: Re: A Whiter Shade Of Pale Lex Cody wrote: > Richard look here: > That will answer everything you want to know about that song, > abandoned lyrics, etc. Thanks Lex, I went there before and just about the only thing it doesn't have is the recording date. It's well worth a visit by anyone slightly interested in this classic song, though! Richard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 17:05:39 -0500 From: Country Paul Subject: Seals & Crofts on T-A; Ramrods Davie Gordon wrote: > ...[Y]ou can now see a listing of almost every single issued > through Amy-Mala-Bell in the period 1959 - 1974. ... [T]here's > more than enough information to give you a good idea of the > range and depth of the A-M-B Group. ... The URL for the AMB > Yahoo Group is > I have not one but TWO Seals & Crofts singles on T.A. (or, as the logo reads, T-A), from back when they were still considered hip: Ridin' Thumb (matrix 9788-S), wr. Seals and Crofts, 3:53 Leave (9789-S0), wr. Seals and Trombatore, 4:18 TA-208 (stereo, promo copy, full-color label), arr. Seals & Crofts, pr. John Simon, Harem Music-Dawnbreaker Music, BMI, released 10/70 Gabriel Go On Home (9835), wr. Seals and Crofts, 3:54 Robin, wr. Seals and Crofts, 1:53 TA-210 (mono, promo copy, grey & white label), arr. Seals & Crofts, pr. John Simon, Harem Music-Dawnbreaker Music, BMI, released 2/71 Both 45s carry the note "From the LP, T. A. 5004, "Down Home". The two A-sides were the top tracks on the album, a then-unusual case of the folks choosing the singles getting it right. I had the pleasure of having them in the control room for a live concert at WHCN -- just them, a bassist, and me and a few thousand listeners. They were REALLY good; unfortunately, the tape deck that was supposed to be was recording them didn't. I don't think either single charted ("Ridin' Thumb" might have), but this is the album that got them noticed. Dan Hughes wrpte: > Actually, (Ghost) Riders In the Sky (remake of a 1949 Vaughn > Monroe number one hit) by the Ramrods entered the Billboard Hot > 100 in January 1961, stayed on the chart for 9 weeks, and peaked > at number 30. ... The very first Hit Parader magazine I ever bought > (I was 13) had a feature article on this hot new group from Connecticut. The Ramrods were from CT? Any more details on that, please? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 23:52:23 +0100 From: Niels Junker-Poulsen Subject: Bang/Shout discog. info I'm looking for some help getting a complete listing for (Bert Berns') Bang Records 500 and Shout 200 series. I primarily need Shout 241 and 256 plus Bang 507, 513, 548, 560, 564, 565, 567, 572, 573 and 589. But info on which producers (Feldman/ Gotthehrer/ Goldstein; Jeff Barry; Chris Huston; George Tobin, Johnny Cymbal, and of course Berns himself) did which singles, and any other people involved with the own productions of the labels, are equally welcome. Please write me offlist. Of course, I do know about his son Brett's fabulous site, but he seems to be only interested in the recordings of his father. Thanks in advance for any help. Best, Niels -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 17:56:27 -0500 From: Country Paul Subject: Bobby Darin; Procol Harum Artie Wayne, thanks for the Bobby Darin recollections. I haven't seen the movie yet, but I'm mighty curious. I thought Darin was a consummate rocker and folkie, and I appreciated (but didn't particularly enjoy) his "ring-a-ding" style, which I thought he had down as well as Sinatra did (based on my limited recording exposure alone). I urge anyone who might think that Darin "strapped on" the introspective attitude in the early '70s to be trendy to flip over "Queen Of The Hop" and listen to "Lost Love" (which was the first side promoted in New York, by the way). I know the movie of necessity leaves out a lot, but as Don Kirschner (I think it was him) noted, Darin lived at least three lifetimes in his short years. I'm eager to see it. Richard Havers wrote: > Does anyone happen to know the precise date that Procol Harum > recorded A Whiter Shade Of Pale? I am pretty sure it was early > April 1967. Don't know, but according to it was first reviewed on May 13, 1967 in NME. notes that "In early May of 1967, the group performed "A Whiter Shade Of Pale" at the Speakeasy Club in London," and that "the prototypal Procol Harum made its concert debut in London opening for Jimi Hendrix at the Saville Theater on June 4, 1967. Four days later, "A Whiter Shade of Pale" reached the top of the British charts for the first of a six-week run in the top spot, making Procol Harum only the sixth recording act in the history of British popular music to reach the number one spot on its first release (not even the Beatles did that)." Anyone have any ideas on who the other five were? That's the best my mid-level research could come up with for now. I notice lots of activity here for the new year, which is good. Musica's apparently been busy, too -- couldn't get in to listen to anything this afternoon. ... Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 19:37:26 -0600 From: Bill Mulvy Subject: fresh Pet Petula Clark has a new DVD out called "Petula Clark Live at the Paris Olympia." It was from a live performance in 2003. This lady is 70 years old and still sounds like she did 40 years ago! About half the performances are sung in French, with most of the big hits sung in English. The intensity of her performance is simply amazing, as well as being very professionally done. This is one of the sleeper music DVDs of the year. I found it online at Circuit for only $15.95. I have yet to see it available in stores (probably because of its partial French content). This is better than her other DVD, which mixed old and recent footage within the same performance, and seemed to be a more tentative performance. All Pet Clark fans will love this DVD. These are not exactly French covers, but her own songs sung in French. There's plenty of songs in English, too. See you "Downtown." Bill Mulvy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 08:00:07 -0000 From: Lyn Nuttall Subject: Re: Joe Jeffrey Group Shawn Nagy wrote: > I can't find any info on Joe on the net, does anyone know much about > him or have a link for more info? You're right -- there's not much to be found, either on the Net or in any of the reference books I own. A few leads: Bomp List has a post by Mike Markesich from July 1999: > Joe Jeffrey was indeed a Cleveland, Ohio native (real name Joseph > Stafford, Jr.) The song was co-written by another Clevelandite, Al Russ, > but you won't see his name on the 45 ...Not sure where the songs > were cut ..." Citi-Music Cleveland has a post from the daughter of Al Russ who "arranged, produced and lead the recording session". She has an email address for anyone wanting more details: There is a Buffalo NY connection, through the song's publisher and the radio station that broke it (WKBW), perhaps leading some to mistakenly think the band was from Buffalo. The above Bomp post mentions it, as does this one: The Joe Jeffrey album "My Pledge Of Love" album is listed on the Wand Records discography at Both Sides Now (with track listing and sleeve shot): it was issued under JJ's name only, not the Joe Jeffrey Group. Lyn -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 20:44:49 -0500 From: Jeff Lemlich Subject: Re: different British versions I can think of a record that had different lyrics (and a different title) for the Canadian market: "Squeaky Vs. The Black Knight" by the Royal Guardsmen. Blimey! Now playing in Musica: the first in a series of Kenny Young publisher demos for TM Music. This week's installment is "Slauson Street", which Kenny later re-recorded as "Freddy's Street" (to capitalize on the success of Freddie & The Dreamers). Now if he just would have released "Slauson" in one country, and "Freddy" in another... Jeff Lemlich -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 20:20:04 +0100 From: Frank Subject: Re: 45s and EPs Dave Monroe wrote: > By the way, on vinyl, the 45 and/or EP can go for pretty good > money (I consider myself lucky to have brought it in for less > than $100) ... When I think of the number of EPs and singles I just threw away ... !! Frank -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 19:23:06 -0000 From: Steve Fuji Subject: Re: The Arkade - Where You Lead Austin Roberts wrote: > Dan Walsh sang lead on Sentimental Lisa. He sang most of our > B-sides and he and Michael Price wrote most of the songs we cut. > I thought Danny had a great pop voice. One thing about the group, > all three of us were great friends. LA in the late 60's-early 70's was > a great place to be if you were a writer or artist or both. I just listened to the recording of "Where You Lead" by Arkade that is playing in musica. Thanks to whoever posted it, because I was not aware of that record. How many Arkade records were released? There are no listings in any of the discographies that I have. I bought "Sing Out The Love" and "Morning Of Our Lives" when they first came out and have always enjoyed them, and this cover of "Where You Lead" is really nice. I'm aware that this was a studio group, but were there ever any group photographs taken? Steve Fuji -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 14:24:11 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Ramrods Rockin'? Phil M. asked: > So that would be a different Ramrods than the Rockin' Ramrods, > the Boston group of the middle '60s? Dan Hughes replied: > Phil, here ya go: > Thanks for the link, Dan. I'm wondering if the Vincent Bell who played lead guitar for "those" Ramrods is the same Vinnie Bell that became legendary as a session guitarist whose "underwater" blip sound on the guitar became his trademark. JB -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 11:37:55 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Monroe Subject: Re: French covers Stephane Rebeschini wrote: > It's Jean Musy, masquerading under a "English sounding name", > as many French musicians did in the 60/early 70's (Eddy Mitchell, > Dick Rivers, Long Chris, Johnny Hallyday...). Musy was behind > many "dance craze" projects in the late 60's/early 70's, and most > of them seemed to have failed. That "Le Rock Steady" track is, on the one hand, novelty-record goofy, but, on the other, it has a great beat to it (lifts the opening, er, "breakbeat" of Lee Dorsey's "Working In A Coal Mine" and runs with it), and a great organ bit hits just when it's become a bit too cute otherwise. Plus the back of the sleeve diagrams the dance for you, which is always appreciated. > Bonne Année à tous / Happy New Year Right back atcha! And if you're, say, Chinese, Jewish or Muslim, a few more yet to come. Thanks, as always ... -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 20:15:11 -0000 From: Julio Niño Subject: Re: Samantha Jones; "Summer is Over" Hola Everybody. Mark Wirtz wrote: > By far my favourite of the recordings that I produced with Sam is > "Today Without You", which I co-wrote for her with Kris Ife and > which became the UK entry in the Eurovision Song contest. Hola, Mark: I'm not familiar with "Today Without You", but I really love "Go Ahead", it's a very atmospheric recording. Samantha's voice goes easily from whispering to very stratospheric notes, blowing you away like a hurricane. I also like very much her earlier recordings produced by Charles Blackwell, Like "Don't Come Any Closer", or "Just Call And I'll Be There", both of them covered in French by Françoise Hardy. Other favorites of mine are the wonderful "I Deserve It" or "Somebody Else's Baby". Frank wrote: > Wasn't "Summer Is Over" a B-side too? Hola Frank. Yes, the evocative "Summer Is Over" was the B-side of "Losing You", Phillips 1369, 1964. Chao. Julio Niño. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 17:55:50 -0500 From: Country Paul Subject: Joe Brown I know that Joe Brown was a lot bigger a phenomenon in the UK than the US, but his "Teardrops In The Rain" (a particular favorite of mine) was released here on Jamie in the early 60s. Check out , a page on his website, which announces a series of UK performances in mid-February. He's also written a stage presentation with Roger Cook. So, a question from an unlearned Yank: can someone please fill me in on where Joe Brown's "place" is in the pantheon of British pop and rock? Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 18:43:07 -0500 From: Country Paul Subject: Fascinating archive at Black Cat Rockabilly I am probably late in discovering this (or perhaps rediscovering it), but there's an amazing library of short bios collectred by Black Cat Rockabilly at I obviously can't vouch for the complete accuracy of each one (some are tales gleaned from other sources, not always fully accredited), but there some interesting stories told, and I know at least some to be true. The links page, , will keep you entertained for hours. Please note: this isn't just rockabilly, but a lot of pop, r&b and other genres of 50s and 60s music. Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 18:51:02 -0700 From: That Alan Gordon Subject: Re: Bobby Darin Clark B., in answer to your Bobby Darin questions. Bobby did four of our songs: "She Knows", "Whatever Happened To Happy" "Lady Fingers" and "Me About You." He did a wonderful performance of each one. "She Knows" was the B-side to "If I Could Talk To The Animals". I've told this story before, but for those new members of S'pop that might have missed it I will tell it once more. We met Bobby at the studio when he was doing "She Knows". I wanted Bobby to throw in a couple of "hey hey hey"s at the instrumental break, but he was adamant about not doing that, saying, "I've done that a couple of times on other recordings". I implored him, saying, "Please Bobby, do it for me. I really think it would be great". He finally agreed, and put it in. Now, of course, each time I hear the record I kinda smile to myself at those "hey hey hey"s, knowing he did them just for me. I think "She Knows" is still a great record and holds up well. I will try to get it to a new artist, after all when Bobby sings it people take notice. Jack Nitzsche did a brilliant arrangement. After the session, we met up a a park in Beverly Hills for a softball game. Bobby drove up in a nifty white foreign sports car, a convertible. He was with his new squeeze at the time, who was the ex of A&P heir Huntington Hartford. Later that night Bobby invited us to see him in concert at a venue in Anaheim, with Chad & Jeremy opening. Wonderful memories. Best, That Alan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 20:05:54 -0800 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: Louisville's Own Don Syzmansky wrote: > Louisville's Own was published in 1983 by Brenda and Bill Woods > ... Not sure if it is still available, but you may find it online > somewhere. does list a single copy available for sale, from a store in Columbia KY. But someone's gonna have to want it REALLY bad to pick it up at the price they're charging for it: $500! Oh, and 95 cents. The page for it might still be worth a visit, though, as it includes an exhaustive list of the artists covered in the book. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 20:54:31 -0500 From: Jeff Lemlich Subject: Re: Dusty B-sides I have an original publisher's demo of "Now That You're My Baby", one of the Dusty B-sides mentioned in a recent post. Since Toni Wine was a co-writer, I have to suspect she's one of the singers on the demo. Expect this to turn up on musica in the near future. Jeff Lemlich -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 17:45:14 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Re: Ramrods Rockin'? Phil M. asked: > So that would be a different Ramrods than the Rockin' Ramrods, > the Boston group of the middle '60s? Definitely differents bands. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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