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Spectropop - Digest Number 1783

               SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop!

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: France Gall´s in German
           From: Julio Niño 
      2. Re: "Beyond The Sea" -- Bobby Darin/Kevin Spacey movie
           From: Artie Wayne 
      3. Re: Amy-Mala-Bell
           From: Artie Wayne 
      4. Re: Claire Francis' Polydor records
           From: Claire Francis 
      5. A Whiter Shade Of Pale
           From: Richard Havers 
      6. Louisville's Own book
           From: Mike Dugo 
      7. Re: France Gall
           From: John H 
      8. Re: Who Killed Teddy Bear . . . and the b-side
           From: Davie Gordon 
      9. Different British versions
           From: Mike Edwards 
     10. Jacqueline Taieb
           From: Lyn Nuttall 
     11. French covers
           From: Artie Wayne 
     12. Joe Jeffrey Group
           From: Shawn Nagy 
     13. Captain Marvel Jones/Super Dupers/Leon Russell
           From: Marese 
     14. Re: France Gall
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     15. Charlie Francis
           From: Simon White 
     16. Free Kitten
           From: Bruce Milne 
     17. Re: Dusty B-sides
           From: ACJ 
     18. Re: Louisville's Own book
           From: Gary Myers 
     19. Re: France Gall
           From: Dave Monroe 
     20. Ghost Riders In The Sky
           From: Paul Urbahns 
     21. Re: French covers - Jean/John Musy
           From: Dave Monroe 
     22. Re: Dusty B-sides
           From: Tony Leong 
     23. Re: France Gall
           From: Dave Monroe 
     24. Re: Who Killed Teddy Bear
           From: Davie Gordon 
     25. Claire Francis and Two's Company
           From: Mick Patrick 

Message: 1 Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 16:17:34 -0000 From: Julio Niño Subject: Re: France Gall´s in German Hola Everybody: Frank: > Dave, if you have any foreign languages France Gall tracks, could > you either play them at Musica or send them over? I see France > quite regularly and I'm pretty sure she hasn't got any of these > tracks and would love to hear them again... Hola Frank, there´s a great CD with a collection of France Gall´s songs in German issued between 1968 and 1972 in Decca. It was released in 1998. France looks beautiful in the picture on the cover of the CD, like a sleepless child with sexy raccoon bags under her eyes. Chao. Julio Niño. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 10:48:27 -0800 (PST) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: "Beyond The Sea" -- Bobby Darin/Kevin Spacey movie Steve...How ya' doin'? You have a point when you say, "Having someone as old as Spacey playing Darin is pointless"...but I've seen a couple of clips that Spacey brought to talk shows and I was mesmerized!. Not only was his singing spot on but so was his dramatic portrail. I knew Bobby on many different levels and he always seemed like an "old soul" to having someone "older" portray him isn't a problem for me. Bobby Darin was one of my earliest mentors. I met and became friendly with him backstage at an Alan Freed Rock n'Roll in 1960. I sang and played my songs for him and me sent me to Donnie Kirshner, who signed me to Aldon music just before I was graduated from high school. In 1963, when he was producing Wayne Newton, Bobby put a song that Ben Raleigh and I wrote, "Better Now than Later" on the b-side of "Danke Schoen", and recorded "Train to the Sky" [Raleigh/ Wayne], himself on his own folk album. Throughout the years and my stints at various publishing companies we stayed in touch and I gave him song that he recorded, incuding "Sail Away" [Newman] and "Freedom for the Stallion" [Toussant]. Everytime I'd see him, the first thing he wanted to know was how I was getting along after being one of the first people in the U.S. to have open heart surgery in 1965. I remember the hours I'd spend telling him how well I was doing and how he shouldn't be afraid to have a similar operation. Unfortunately, he waited too long. "Beyond the Sea" just opened here, as soon as I see it I'll post my critique. regards, Artie Wayne __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. Do good. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 09:44:05 -0800 (PST) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: Amy-Mala-Bell Davie...How ya' doin'? in 1963, I produced a master with Joey Powers, "Midnight Mary", which I wrote with Ben Raleigh. My friends, Jerry Landis [Paul Simon] and Tony Dee, both of whom worked at E.B. Marks Music suggested that I take it over to Larry Uttal, who recently left their company to run Amy records. I'm proud to say that it became the labels first Gold record. regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 15:27:08 EST From: Claire Francis Subject: Re: Claire Francis' Polydor records Dear Scott, Thanks so much for all your efforts. You are a gem! See below for a list of records I would like to hear. Mick, Martin, and Phil and Ian had been kind enough to send me the mp3 or downloads (what ever they are called) on some of my work..... I am so Jurassic!!! I know that when I get them...the Quick time icon appears on my screen as I down load them. Then, I send them to my daughter who burns a copy for me, and then I take them home and play it on my computer so that I can try to put them in Itunes. I have an iMacOS X. I am sure there must be a way to get the cd through to my computer so that as I play it, it jumps into ITunes. I don't know how, but I know that it can happen because it happened one time, but I don't know how. As I was playing the mp3 or download, I noticed it appeared into Itunes, but I don't know how I made that happen. So, in either case, anything you send me on the list below would be greatly appreciated, and, I don't need the original disks, but a scan or photo of the label would be great so that I can print it and put in on the c.d. myself. I hope this isn't to confusing to you. As far as the list of songs from BMI, I just recently finished a meeting with BMI because I don't know some of the songs they have in my catalog...Like, I never can even imagine I wrote "You made a football out of my heart" as well as some of the other songs listed.'s in my catalog. Thanks for being part of helping me unravel the mystery. And I hope the S'pop gang helps with sending out any mp3's or scans of my labels when they can. I know time spent is precious energy and in New York, time is I will find a way to repay you all. Records I would like to hear, and see pictures of the labels: Mikki Young: The Day He Came My Way/ I Can't Hide My Love (Polydor 56058, 1965) John Bull Breed: Can't Chance A Breakup/ I'm A Man (Polydor BM 56065, 1966) Lynn Holland: Oh Darling How I Miss You/ Before (Polydor BM 56035, 1965)   Sonny Childe: "To Be Cont'd" LP (Polydor 582003, 1966) Long Live Spectropop and its incredibly generous members. Love & Light, Claire Francis -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 16:40:37 +0000 From: Richard Havers Subject: A Whiter Shade Of Pale Does anyone happen to know the precise date that Procol Harum recorded A Whiter Shade of Pale? I am pretty sure it was early April 1967. Thanks in anticipation Richard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 08:24:26 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Dugo Subject: Louisville's Own book Thanks for the info on the Louisville's Own book, Don. How is the coverage on the local '60's "garage bands"? Does the book also cover the obscure bands, or does it concentrate mainly on the better known acts? Mike Dugo -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 21:17:50 -0000 From: John H Subject: Re: France Gall I've loved France Gall's 60s stuff for a few years now, but there seems to have been a period between those and her Michel Berger stuff that I can't locate anywhere. Among the singles from this time was "Zoi Zoi," and I've heard such great things about it that I can't wait to hear it. Is it on any currently-in-print compilations? -John H -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 19:38:23 -0000 From: Davie Gordon Subject: Re: Who Killed Teddy Bear . . . and the b-side Claire Francis wrote: > Now, my question is...if I wrote the B side of "Who Killed Teddy Bear" > and if that Teddy Bear record sold I supposed to get a > royalty for my song?? I know that sounds like a dumb question, but I > think maybe Polydor should have paid me for any sales of that record > because I wrote the B side. Hi Claire, It wouldn't be Polydor's responsibility to pay you writer royalties unless they, or one of their associated companies were the publishers. You could ask the song's publishers but whether or not they've kept records stretching back nearly four decades is another thing entirely. Don't book that cruise to the Caribbean just yet :) A bit more about the "Who Killed Teddy Bear" saga: According to one of my film reference books the film was released in the US in October 1965. The Leslie Uggams version on Atlantic 2313, going by the number, was issued in December 1965. I'd need the matrix number to estimate the recording date. I've just sent off an e-mail to Al Kasha asking him if he can confirm the identity of the singer of the version used in the film. I'll let you know if I get a reply. I don't know this has occurred to you but if that film had been released a few months later it's quite probable the Mikki Young record wouldn't have happened at all. At the time (12/65) that Leslie Uggams version was released Atlantic records were being issued in the UK through Decca. Atlantic switched their UK licensee rights to Polydor in March '66 so if the film had been released in '66 Polydor would have been unlikely to have asked you to produce a local version - it would've been cheaper to just get the tapes of Leslie Uggams' version from Atlantic. Could you post the Polydor number for the Mikki Young record - we might as well try to sort out the chronology completely. Davie -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 19:15:19 -0000 From: Mike Edwards Subject: Different British versions Me: > the definitive British car song was and is "Beep Beep" by the (New) > England vocal group, the Playmates on UK Columbia DB 4224 from 1958. Phil X Milstein: > I'm a little confused. The British release was of a different version > than the American one? Me again: Hi Phil, from what I recall, they substituted a bubble car for a Nash Rambler on the UK issue. There were a couple of other interesting examples of lyrics being changed for UK consumption. Johnny Horton sang that the British kept-a-comin' on the US issue of "The Battle Of New Orleans" but "rebels" replaced "British" on the UK 45. Connie Francis used a spoken intro on her great "I'm Gonna Be Warm This Winter" (MGM, 1962) and let us know that "we met at a ski lodge and we fell in love". I guess the suits at EMI figured that we simply couldn't relate to such a statement and used "we met on a winter's day…" for the UK 45. Of course today, with the £ being so strong against the $, I imagine that the ski lodges in Vail will be ringing with the sounds of those wonderful London accents. Mike Edwards -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 07:09:17 +1000 From: Lyn Nuttall Subject: Jacqueline Taieb I just acquired a gloriously screwy song by Jacqueline Taieb called "7 heures du matin" (1967), a sort of languid French rap over a groovy beat in which she lapses now and then into snatches of Anglo pop such as "talking 'bout my g-g-generation" and "wop-bob-a-loo-bop..." My French isn't up to making much sense of it, apart from the title ("7 o'clock in the morning"), but I love it. Her page at The Yé Yé Girls website makes one yearn for more, and apparently she has been anthologised outside of France. Any other enthusiasts here? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 09:26:54 -0800 (PST) From: Artie Wayne Subject: French covers Bon Jour, Comme sa va? Speaking of French covers, does anyone have a copy of "Excuse me Lady" by Joe Dassin, which I wrote?. It got to #3 on the French Charts in 1967. It was a cover of "Excuse me Baby" by the Magic Lanterns top ten UK hit. Merci. regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 00:02:27 -0000 From: Shawn Nagy Subject: Joe Jeffrey Group I can't find any info on Joe on the net, does anyone know much about him or have a link for more info? Happy New Year to all. Shawn -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 00:44:58 -0000 From: Marese Subject: Captain Marvel Jones/Super Dupers/Leon Russell Hello! I used to own an original Pickwick 7", something I inherited when I was about 10. A-side was the Archies "Everything's Archie", B- side "Captain Marvel Jones" - this was the coolest song I've ever heard. I played it about 10 years ago my 21st birhtday, and my vinyl junkie flatmate slid it into the cover of one of his hundreds of albums to keep safe. Of course it was promptly lost, and I've been looking for it ever since. I've read on this list a post from Peter McDonnell, saying he has an album including "Captain Marvel Jones". Peter, please could you make me a copy?? I'm no serious vinyl collector, I just love that song. SO I'd love to get my hands on it again and if anyone would be so kind as to send it to me I'd be ever so grateful. Thanks Marese -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 18:06:14 -0500 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: France Gall Frank wrote: > Dave, if you have any foreign languages France Gall tracks, could > you either play them at Musica or send them over? I see France > quite regularly and I'm pretty sure she hasn't got any of these > tracks and would love to hear them again. What sort of thing does she do with her life these days? --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 10:22:45 +0000 From: Simon White Subject: Charlie Francis I'm looking for info on an artist named Charlie Francis. His name appears on a few budget albums, the ones where they split the album with two artists over two sides with artists like Sam Cooke, Brook Benton and Chuck Jackson. Charlie is a balladeer in a Chuck mode often backed by a group and some of his stuff is really good. There don't seem to be any 45's though which is odd. Anyone know anything about him? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 13:26:56 +1100 From: Bruce Milne Subject: Free Kitten Dave Monroe: > (France Gall's) "Teenie Weenie Boppie" was a while back floorfiller > here, however, as it had been covered by Cat Power (Sonic Youth's > Kim Gordon + Pussy Galore's Julia Cafritz). Kim & Julia's band is Free Kitten. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 22:51:29 -0500 From: ACJ Subject: Re: Dusty B-sides For Frank: That's for sure! The CD version of Dusty's "Stay Awhile / I Only Want to Be With You" album includes a bonus track called "Baby Don't You Know," which (I think) would have been a bigger hit than its A-side, "In the Middle of Nowhere." ACJ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 19:21:30 -0800 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: Louisville's Own book Don S: > Louisville's Own was published in 1983 by Brenda and Bill Woods > ... Not sure if it is still available, but you may find it online > somewhere. I was able to get a copy directly from Bill Woods about a year ago. He said it is out of print, but he still had a few copies at that time. I think he has an agency or something like that now. Whatever it was, I did find him online through it. gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 22:02:46 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Monroe Subject: Re: France Gall Frank wrote: > Dave, if you have any foreign languages France Gall > tracks, could you either play them at Musica or send > them over? I see France quite regularly and I'm > pretty sure she hasn't got any of these tracks and > would love to hear them again. Well, I'm pretty low-tech, I mean, my idea of downloading music is, I find something online, I send them some money, electronically or otherwise, and they send me a (hopefully) shiny black disc ("minirecords," as a little rave girl recently called my 45s), but I can likely get some assistance if need be .... But I will mention that there's a 20-track CD, France Gall en Allemand--Die Beste in Deustch (WEA), that has most everything I can recall being on the handful of EPs/2 comp LPs I have of her German tracks. It's not necessarily cheap, especially give recent downturns in our exchnge rates, but it's readily available, on your various amazons-dot-com, fr, de, whatever. If all else fails, I ended up with two copies, although the vast bulk of my CD collection is in storage (I moved ca. a year ago, and I DJ all vinyl, so ...) ... So let me know what you can find. In the meatime, it strikes me that, while her contemporaries were busy rerecording English, German, Spanish and Italian lyrics over their backing tracks (and Sylvie Vartan had at least one nice 60s single available only in Japanese), FG only seems to have recorded in French or German, and, again, i can recall only one crossover point, and evern there over a new arrangement/ recording. Can anyone confim that for me? Thanks as always ... -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 21:06:11 EST From: Paul Urbahns Subject: Ghost Riders In The Sky Actually, (Ghost) Riders In the Sky (remake of a 1949 Vaughn Monroe number one hit) by the Ramrods entered the Billboard Hot 100 in January 1961, stayed on the chart for 9 weeks, and peaked at number 30. It's my understanding that Vaughn Monroe's was a Pop version of a country hit by Bob Atcher who recorded over 100 songs for Columbia back in the 78 rpm days. If the name is not familiar go to this link: -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 21:48:19 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Monroe Subject: Re: French covers - Jean/John Musy Moi: > ... By the way, know anything about John [sic?] Musy? Frank: > It's Jean Musy, Dave. He was indeed a very well respected French > arranger/composer. Well, when I posted that, I didn't have the record in front of me, and I recalled a Jean Musy from elsewhere, but it's definitely John Musy on the sleeve, e.g.: Same guy or different? The only hits I get for "John Musy" involve that 45, so ... so thanks again ... -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 06:10:18 -0000 From: Tony Leong Subject: Re: Dusty B-sides frank: > I generally found that Dusty's B sides were almost always great > tracks worthy of the A side. Agreed--"Baby Dont you Know", "If It Hadn't Been For You", "I'm Gonna Leave You", and the EP track "Now That You're My Baby" were much more profound than their A-sides!!!!Incidentally, those songs are so much more memorable that it is taking me time to remember what was ON the A-side!!!! Tony -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 23:30:39 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Monroe Subject: Re: France Gall Frank wrote: > Dave, if you have any foreign languages France Gall > tracks, could you either play them at Musica or > send them over? I see France quite regularly and I'm > pretty sure she hasn't got any of these tracks and > would love to hear them again. By the way, there are covers of both "A Banda" (which I recall best from both Astrud Gilberto and Herb Alpert recordings) and, apparently, Van Morrison's "I Shall Sing" (which I don't know, so I didn't recognize) on that German comp CD, as well as my fave tracks, so ... But, man, say "hello" or "bonjour" or "Guten Morgen" or whatever to her for me if you could, okay? And let her know that we're still playing tracks like "Laisser tomber les filles" and "Nefertiti" and "Zoizoi" and "Merci Herr Marquis" and ... to apprecaitive dancers here. And ask if she's heard April March's "Chick Habit," 'cos not only does it actually live up musically to the original (FG's "LTLF"), but it's a brilliant translation to an American idiom. "Hang up your chick habit, hang it up, Daddy-O ..." ... -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 22:35:44 -0000 From: Davie Gordon Subject: Re: Who Killed Teddy Bear Al Kasha replied to my e-mail - he confirms that the singer of the title song in the film is .. Leslie Uggams. I've told Al about Spectropop and invited him to join up - let's keep our fingers crossed. Davie -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 13:06:33 -0000 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Claire Francis and Two's Company Scott Swanson: > Since everyone is chiming in with the Claire Francis records > they've uncovered, I figured (as a public service, so to speak) > I'd compile a list of them. Here are the ones I know of: Thanks for taking the time to do that, Scott. Blimey, we'll soon have enough for a whole CD (...thinks...). Unfortunately, my efforts to locate a copy of the Sonny Childe LP have been thwarted at every flippin' turn, so the search for that baby goes on. In the meantime, I've posted another of Claire's little symphonies to musica for all to hear. Just follow this URL: Details are: Two's Company "Now That I Love You" (UK Polydor BM 56072, 1966); written by Tony May (I think); produced by Claire Francis. Hope this stirs up some more memories, Claire. Back to work tomorrow. Bummer. Hey la, Mick Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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