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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: SGC / David Jones
           From: Lapka Larry 
      2. Re: Monkees masters
           From: Mikey 
      3. Midnight Mary / Joey
           From: Tom Adams 
      4. Re: "Sweets For My Sweet"
           From: Stewart Epstein 
      5. Re: Clique
           From: Phil X Milstein 
      6. Re: The Jaynetts' "Snowman, Snowman, Sweet Potato Nose"
           From: Dave Monroe 
      7. "Sweets For My Sweet" / Joey Powers to Photos
           From: Clark Besch 
      8. Magicians' orbit
           From: Phil X Milstein 
      9. Re: "Sweets For My Sweet"
           From: Dave Monroe 
     10. Re: "Sweets For My Sweet"
           From: Dave Monroe 
     11. May I "chime" in
           From: Bob Rashkow 
     12. Freddie Perren, RIP
           From: James Cassidy 
     13. Re: Joey Heatherton
           From: Julio Niño 
     14. Re: Freddie Perren, RIP
           From: Davie Gordon 
     15. Re: Joey Powers to Photos
           From: Davie Gordon 
     16. Re: Magicians' orbit
           From: "That" Alan Gordon 
     17. Re: Joey Heatherton
           From: Mikey 
     18. Re: Joey Heatherton
           From: That Alan Gordon 
     19. The Braillettes
           From: Will Stos 
     20. Re: Joey Heatherton
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     21. The Turtles' "Happy Together"
           From: Claire Francis 
     22. Re: The Turtles' "Happy Together"
           From: Roger Smith 
     23. Re: The Braillettes
           From: Steve Yaver 
     24. Re: The Turtles' "Happy Together"
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     25. Re: The Turtles' "Happy Together"
           From: That Alan Gordon 


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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:15:15 -0800 (PST) From: Lapka Larry Subject: Re: SGC / David Jones Dear All: Thanks for the information on SGC. My mind is spinning at this point, but keep it coming--and any other information you may have on Colgems too. I think the David Jones LP is OK, but nothing to write home about. Remember, he was a Broadway star when this album first appeared, as the original Artful Dodger in Oliver, so the material kind of went back and forth from contemporary stuff ("It Ain't Me Babe") to British music hall-type material ("What Are We Going to Do"). This leads me to my next point: I think the album leans toward Herman's Hermits-sounding material overall, and I have long contended that Davy was included in The Monkees to "ape" Peter Noone! I know that some radio stations played "What Are We Going to Do" and that many listeners thought it was the new Herman's Hermits recording. Ironically, Jones and Noone toured briefly a few years back in the Teen Idols tour, and they actually recorded a song together that is on the CD sold at tour stops. Bobby Sherman stuff is also on there, as he was with them at the time. Larry Lapka -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 07:58:29 -0500 From: Mikey Subject: Re: Monkees masters Phil M: > Arista originally inherited the Monkees catalogue, yet it now > SEEMS to be held by Rhino -- thankfully, as they've done a far > better job with it than Arista ever did. Presuming this to be > true, did Rhino buy it outright from Arista at some point? Yes, as a matter of fact, Rhino bought the ENTIRE Monkees franchise, music, TV shows, movies, etc, from Arista/Colgems. Rhino owns it all now. Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:36:47 -0000 From: Tom Adams Subject: Midnight Mary / Joey Hey all; After a year long search, I was finally able to get my hands on Lorna Dune's "Midnight Joey", the answer song to Joey Powers' "Midnight Mary". This record has proven to be so elusive and rare that even our own Artie Wayne (who wrote it) said that he didn't know much about it except that "Lorna Dune" was actually Lorna Wright, the sister of Gary "Dreamweaver" Wright. It's now posted at musica. Happy Holidays to all. Tom Adams -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:18:00 -0800 (PST) From: Stewart Epstein Subject: Re: "Sweets For My Sweet" Dave Monroe wrote: > I picked up a 45 by The Riddles the other day the b-side of which > is a cover of Pomus/Shuman's "Sweets for My Sweet"... I know The > Drifters and The Searchers had recorded it previously, but am > convinced someone had taped a rather elss obvious version of it > for me some time back. The shop owner had some idea The Clique > had done it as well, though I can't find any quick confirmation > online. Help! Thanks ... Actually, my rock band recorded and released "Sweets For My Sweet" in 1969. We were called "Central Park West", and our agent/manager was Julie Rifkind, who is the man who introduced me to Karen Carpenter in 1969. I was the lead singer, BUT the singer on the released single was actually Terry Cashman, who formed our group plus another band called "The Buchanon Brothers", managed by Roy Rifkin, who put his son into that band and which was, quite honestly, the more talented of the two bands. Hope this helps. Stewart Epstein -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:18:45 -0800 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: Clique Bill Mulvy wrote: > The Clique album also had some Tommy James songs including "Sugar On > Sunday" and "Sparkle and Shine". Their big hit song was "I'll Hold > Out My Hand". They also did the original? version of "Superman", to > be made famous, years later, by REM. Was that the same Clique that also covered "Splash I," by the 13th Floor Elevators (which, by the way, was written about Janis Joplin)? --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:38:09 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Monroe Subject: Re: The Jaynetts' "Snowman, Snowman, Sweet Potato Nose" Julio Niño: > ... the very hypnotic "Snowman, Snowman, Sweet Potato Nose" by > The Jaynetts. I find it childish and charming but somehow wicked > at the same time. I don´t know why it disquiets me a little. > Anyway I love it. PS: my cats also seem to feel something perverse > in the song, because when I play it loud they run and hide under > the bed, very nervous. James Moniz wrote: > That's so strange the first time I played "Sally Go Round the Roses" > by the Jaynetts my cats also started to act strange (meowing and > hiding). Try "Hey Now" by Lesley Gore. I've found no end of fascination of late in that strangely seductive rhythmic disconnect betwixt vocal and instrumental tracks ... Dave M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:33:37 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: "Sweets For My Sweet" / Joey Powers to Photos MopTopMike wrote: > The Buckinghams released their version of "Sweets For My Sweet" as > their debut single in January 1966, just prior to getting signed to > the USA label. The Riddles version came out in mid 1967. > The shop owner must be confusing "Sugar On Sunday" with "Sweets..." Mike, you made me look foolish here! Yes, the Riddles was 1967 and how could I not think of the Bucks' version too? EEgahd. I'm going to punish myself by going and listening to the "Kind of a Drag" Cd 10 times! Also, someone posted "Midnight Joey" to Musica. I had a picture scanned already that I was going to send to Artie Wayne of Joey Powers and Lorna Dune of their recording session, so I posted it to S'Pop photos section. Now, watch and listen! Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:06:02 -0800 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Magicians' orbit Reading the liner notes to Rhino's first "Nuggets" boxset last night, I grew curious to learn more about the Magicians' (and Blues Magoos') management team. Perhaps one of our Alan Gordons can clue us in on that. Likewise, I was surprised to read there the writer credits to "Invitation To Cry," which listed Alan's name alongside that not of the expected Garry Bonner but rather of James Woods. Would I be correct in assuming that's a different James Woods than the (in)famous actor, Alan? Magically, --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:50:17 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Monroe Subject: Re: "Sweets For My Sweet" Clark Besch wrote: > Dave, do you like the Riddles' version? I love it! > It made top 20 in Chicago on WLS in 1966.... Oh, yeah, I actually bought it for that side. Is that a fuzz bass, or just a guitar? Anyway, one of my DJ tag-team partners told me I couldn't play that one as she was already spinning it, then she figured out I had no interest in the other side. Thanks for the info! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:51:42 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Monroe Subject: Re: "Sweets For My Sweet" MopTopMike wrote: > The Buckinghams released their version of "Sweets For My Sweet" > as their debut single in January 1966, just prior to getting > signed to the USA label. The Riddles version came out in mid 1967. > The shop owner must be confusing "Sugar On Sunday" with "Sweets..." Thanks as well! And I believe you're right, meaning, what, now Tommy James is mistakenly involved as well ... -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:52:12 EST From: Bob Rashkow Subject: May I "chime" in Taking this opportunity to wish everybody on Spectropop a terrific 2005 and joyous holidays......Bobster (Peace all over the world ASAP) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:34:57 -0500 From: James Cassidy Subject: Freddie Perren, RIP >From the Los Angeles Times, December 22, 2004 LOS ANGELES -- Freddie Perren, a composer, arranger, and record producer who won a Grammy Award for producing two songs on the 1977 ''Saturday Night Fever" album, has died. He was 61. Mr. Perren died Thursday after a long illness, according to his wife, Christine Yarian Perren. She said Mr. Perren suffered a massive stroke 11 years ago. The ''Saturday Night Fever" album was named Album of the Year in 1978. The next year, Mr. Perren wrote and produced, with Dino Fekaris, ''I Will Survive" by Gloria Gaynor, which won the Grammy for Best Disco Recording in 1979. Mr. Perren was a member of the Motown production group The Corporation, which wrote and produced the first Jackson Five hit records. The Corporation -- which included Motown Records founder Berry Gordy, Deke Richards, and Fonce Mizell -- produced the Jackson Five's ''I Want You Back," ''ABC," and ''The Love You Save." While at Motown, Mr. Perren also produced the Miracles' hits ''Love Machine" and ''Do It Baby." Some of Mr. Perren's post-Motown records include Peaches and Herb's ''Reunited" and ''Shake Your Groove Thing"; the Sylvers's ''Boogie Fever" and ''Hot Line"; and Tavares's ''Heaven Must Be Missing an Angel." In addition to his wife, Mr. Perren leaves a son and a daughter. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:17:59 -0000 From: Julio Niño Subject: Re: Joey Heatherton Hola Everybody: I love innocent girls pretending to be bad, but I think I much prefer bad girls pretending to be innocent. Joey Heatherton looked in many pictures like a wonderful case of the latter type, although she always made it clear to us that her faux candour is just a pose. To me, she always looks like a girl with attitude and a lot of sense of humor. I´m only familiar with one track by Joey, her great and in my opinion definitive version of " Live and Learn" (included in "Where The Girls Are" vol.1). I also think to remember that she appeared in John Waters´ "Cry Baby". Yesterday, I was very intrigued by the amusing post by David A. Young (thanks for the tip , David) announcing the recent release of a Joey´s compilation in Hip´O select (you can find info in http://www.hip-oselect.com/catalogue_joey.asp ). Of couse I felt immediately fascinated when I saw the suggestive picture on the cover of the CD. I´ve already ordered my copy, but it will take some days to arrive, and according to David the liner notes aren´t very informative. So, as I feel very curious about her (her music and her life), maybe David or our "Jail Queen" (or was it "Sanatorium Queen"), Amber, or any other, could calm my anxiety by telling us something about Joey. Chao. Julio Niño. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:42:06 -0000 From: Davie Gordon Subject: Re: Freddie Perren, RIP James Cassidy wrote: > From the Los Angeles Times, December 22, 2004 > LOS ANGELES -- Freddie Perren, a composer, arranger, and record > producer who won a Grammy Award for producing two songs on the 1977 > ''Saturday Night Fever" album, has died. He was 61. Sad news indeed, James - thanks for letting us know. I knew he was in a bad way following his stroke but this still comes as a shock. My sympathies to his wife and family - they must have had some trying times over the years. Davie -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:48:15 -0000 From: Davie Gordon Subject: Re: Joey Powers to Photos Clark Besch wrote: > ... scanned already that I was going to send to Artie Wayne of Joey > Powers and Lorna Dune of their recording session, so I posted it to > S'Pop photos section. Now, watch and listen! Aye, they were the days when girl singers were "larks" or "thrushes" - not like these days of "barely clothed slappers". Davie - in "old curmudgeon" mode :) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:52:03 -0700 From: "That" Alan Gordon Subject: Re: Magicians' orbit Phil X Milstein wrote: > Reading the liner notes to Rhino's first "Nuggets" boxset last night, > I grew curious to learn more about the Magicians' (and Blues Magoos') > management team. Perhaps one of our Alan Gordons can clue us in on > that. Likewise, I was surprised to read there the writer credits to > "Invitation To Cry," which listed Alan's name alongside that not of > the expected Garry Bonner but rather of James Woods. Would I be > correct in assuming that's a different James Woods than the (in)famous > actor, Alan? The Magicians and Blues Magoos were both produced by Art Polhemus and Bob Wyld. They had a company called Longhair Productions. "Invitation To Cry" was a song I wrote with Jimmy Woods, a fellow staff writer at We Three Music. I had not met Garry Bonner untill Art and Bob brought him into the studio to do the lead vocal on "Invitation" The Magicians were given the name by Koppleman and Rubin who had the Spoonful hit "Do You Believe In MAGIC", hence The Magicians. Garry replaced Mike Appel who quit the group before Longhair sold the master to Koppleman and Rubin. Jimmy Woods is not the actor James Woods. Longhair did manage the Magoos, who recorded a song I co wrote with Ritchie Adams called "Gotta Get Away" which was on the B side of "We Ain`t Got Nothin Yet" both groups performed at The Nite Owl in the village. Best, That Alan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:26:57 -0500 From: Mikey Subject: Re: Joey Heatherton Speaking of Joey Heatherton, MANY years ago, when I was like 15, I got to meet her brother Dick Heatherton at WCBS-FM. Super guy. Showed me how to load carts. Hope he's well these days. Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:37:43 -0700 From: That Alan Gordon Subject: Re: Joey Heatherton In the 1950`s there was a children's television show called 'The Merry Mailman' which was hosted by a man named Ray Heatherton. He was, if I`m not mistaken, Joey`s fatherton. I betcha Al Kooper and I still remember his theme song!!! Best, That Alan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:17:03 -0000 From: Will Stos Subject: The Braillettes I'm not sure if this is even real or not, but on a list of worst record covers ever, a girl group (whose members are apparently blind) showed up. Anyone ever heard their record? http://porktornado.diaryland.com/covers2.html Will : ) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:38:16 -0800 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: Joey Heatherton Julio Niño wrote: > I´m only familiar with one track by Joey. ... So, as I feel very > curious about her (her music and her life), maybe David or our > "Jail Queen" (or was it "Sanatorium Queen"), Amber, or any other, > could calm my anxiety by telling us something about Joey. Joey was raised in a family prominent in local New York City show business circles. Her father, Ray Heatherton, was, if I'm not mistaken, a former big-band leader, who by the time I was coming up had taken to hosting his own daily kiddie TV show titled "The Merry Mailman." His sidekick, if you can believe this, was a talking mailbox named "Bleep-Bleep," who could only talk when the Merry Mailman pulled down his hinged letterbox door. (If I remember correctly, all Bleep-Bleep could say, at that, was "bleep bleep." Hence, as you've no doubt already gathered, his name.) As the Merry Mailman was not only merry but also a singing mailman, there was at least one album released in conjunction with the show. Joey's brother Dick Heatherton was a long-time NYC DJ. She herself was groomed for stardom, as a singer / dancer / actress / sexpot, but was derailed by a raging cocaine habit, which led to an unfortunate case over an airport inspection of her baggage. Details are hazy, in my mind and perhaps her's as well. So Julio, does this information raise Joey's position in your pantheon, or lower it? Live and learn, --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:49:01 EST From: Claire Francis Subject: The Turtles' "Happy Together" I just want to say that "Happy Together" by the Turtles is one of my all time favorite records. It kept my family going through many tough times when there was a lot of medical problems in our then young family. Every time I hear that song, I just feel like crying. If any of you know the songwriter, or The Turtles...give them a big hug for me. Love & Light, Claire Francis http://www.clairefrancis.com -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:18:14 -0500 From: Roger Smith Subject: Re: The Turtles' "Happy Together" Claire Francis: > I just want to say that "Happy Together" by the Turtles is one of my > all time favorite records. It kept my family going through many tough > times when there was a lot of medical problems in our then young > family. Every time I hear that song, I just feel like crying. If > any of you know the songwriter, or The Turtles...give them a big hug > for me. Check out http://www.theturtles.com/ to see if the Turtles are performing in your area. In addition to putting on a terrific show, Mark and Howard are very accessible. They usually greet fans after their shows. I doubt they get tired of hearing how much their music has meant to others. As for one of the songwriters, hang on a second .... :-) -- Roger -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:06:39 -0800 From: Steve Yaver Subject: Re: The Braillettes Will Stos: > I'm not sure if this is even real or not, but on a list of worst > record covers ever, a girl group (whose members are apparently blind) > showed up. Anyone ever heard their record? > http://porktornado.diaryland.com/covers2.html It most certainly is real, as I have a copy of it. But, and here's the big BUT...I haven't listened to it because it is still sealed. It's on Heart Warming Records, and it's Christian music. They were from San Leandro, CA, and the record was recorded at Whitney Recording Studios in Glendale, CA. The music was arranged and conducted by Jimmy Owens. I have a friend that has an open copy, and he says it's nothing special; just girl vocal stuff on some traditional Christian songs. Steve -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:21:51 -0800 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: The Turtles' "Happy Together" Claire Francis wrote: > I just want to say that "Happy Together" by the Turtles is one of my > all time favorite records. It kept my family going through many tough > times when there was a lot of medical problems in our then young > family. Every time I hear that song, I just feel like crying. If > any of you know the songwriter, or The Turtles...give them a big hug > for me. Claire, one* of the writers of that song, the so-called That** Alan Gordon is a prominent member of Spectropop. My bet is that he will be delighted to hear of how much "Happy Together" has meant to you and your family. Love and light to you, too, --Phil M. *The other being Alan's longtime writing partner, Garry Bonner. **To differentiate him from This Alan Gordon, another member, who, come to think of it, we haven't heard from in a while. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:25:20 -0700 From: That Alan Gordon Subject: Re: The Turtles' "Happy Together" To Claire, I`m so glad you like "Happy Together". Like you, that song kept my family going through many tough times, and thankfully many good times. I`m blessed to be able to say I co-wrote the song with Garry Bonner. When I was a young man I would always ask for heavenly help in trying to write a hit song, well the Angels must have heard my prayers because they made sure there were plenty of trumpets on the record. Merry Christmas and a wonderful New Year to you and your family. Best, That Alan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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