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Spectropop - Digest Number 1759



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There are 13 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Saint Etienne
           From: Dave Monroe 
      2. Re: Sonny's productions
           From: Phil X Milstein 
      3. Re: Colgems
           From: Bob Rashkow 
      4. Thanks
           From: Joe Nelson 
      5. Re: This Diamond Ring
           From: Ken Silverwood 
      6. Re: Cher & Spector
           From: Barry 
      7. Simon & Garfunkel's "Silent Night"
           From: ACJ 
      8. Sammy Ambrose
           From: Jeff Lemlich 
      9. Re: Saint Etienne
           From: Frank 
     10. Re: Beverley's "Happy New Year"
           From: Scott Swanson 
     11. Colgems
           From: Lapka Larry 
     12. Harry and Cher
           From: Charles G. Hill 
     13. Rhino Girl Group Box
           From: Dan Nowicki 


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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 13:25:11 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Monroe Subject: Re: Saint Etienne Stewart Mason wrote: > I too recommend all of the previously-mentioned titles highly, > and say without reservation that if Bob Stanley isn't a > Spectropopper, he should be. One of the most enjoyable times > I've ever had as a journalist was interviewing Mr. Stanley a > few years ago, which devolved into a long and detailed > conversation about the '60s records of one of our shared > passions, France Gall. And speaking of France Gall, not to mention (as had been mentioned earlier in this thread) Belle & Sebastian, there's an, er, "unofficial" recording of B&S doing FG's "Poupee de cire, poupee de son" floating around out there that's so uncannily faithful to the original that one can sense the ghost of Serge Gainsbourg conducting the band as they do their all to bring home the Eurovision trophy for Luxembourg ... And speaking of Saint Etienne, French pop, and, er, dolls (poupees), Saint Etienne have also recored a couple of versions of Michel Polnareff's heartbreaking "La poupee qui fait non". One was a studio project for a French pop covers compilation, but I prefer the live version found on various formats of their "Hug My Soul". The Birds (Ron Wood et al., later Birds Birds) and Dana Gillespie, at the very least, both recorded it as well (the latter as "No No No", on Foolish Seasons). St. E have also covered, on the Francophone front, Massiel's "La la la" and Francoise Hardy's "Tout les garcons and les filles". Okay, my two obsessions, 60s French pop and Saint Etienne (okay, three obsessions, Scottish indie pop as well) rolled into one post ... Dave Monroe -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:12:59 -0800 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: Sonny's productions Rick Hough wrote: > As decent families once hid crazy relatives in attics, so > Bonologists wish the dreaded "Unchained" had remained quite > firmly chained and hidden from polite society! Phil, you've > undone forty years of hard work!!! Always happy to help. More seriously, though, your recent posts on Sonny & Cher have made for some terrifically exciting reading. Have you published any of your S&C findings anywhere? --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 17:24:48 EST From: Bob Rashkow Subject: Re: Colgems I do remember that the American pressing of "Davy Jones" (first name may have been spelled on some copies either as David or as Davey) on Colpix was re-released sometime in 1967 after The Monkees became a popular show as well as recording artists. I want to hypothesize that Colpix became Colgems in '66 around the time that The Monkees were "getting their act together." There are at least a few 1966 Colpix records including (They Call Me) Granny Goose (shown as by The Winkle Pickers). Anyone know this one? I've never heard it, but it certainly SOUNDS like a novelty! Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 02:02:21 -0000 From: Joe Nelson Subject: Thanks Just to say thanks at this time to whoever sent me a card anonymously with a Phoenix, Az. postmark. ...you know who you are. God bless, Joe Nelson -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 23:24:20 -0000 From: Ken Silverwood Subject: Re: This Diamond Ring Davie: > Tony Middleton is definitely not Sammy Ambrose. Ambrose died > some years ago, whereas as far as I know Tony Middleton is > still with us. Sorry if I am mistaken, I was quoting from a copy of Mr Whitburn's Record Research books, which I took to be pretty precise. Anyhoo, Sammy's version was on Musicor 1061 c/w "Bad Night". Ken On The West Coast. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:03:56 -0600 From: Barry Subject: Re: Cher & Spector Rick Hough: > In the fall of '74, Mo Ostin of WB pushed his two prime > acquisitions of the year to record together. Their first > effort was the Nilsson/Cher duet "A Love Like Yours", recorded > towards the end of the John Lennon "Rock'n'Roll" sessions. The > results were good enough (fantastic, actually) to justify an > album, and "A Woman's Story" and "Baby I Love You" were then cut. > Those tracks were the debut Warner-Spector 45 (WS 0400 November > '74, in stereo). "A Woman's Story" is indeed an amazing track...perhaps one of the most unknown of 1970's. Also, towards the end of the single, there's quite an obvious edit.......makes me wonder if this song wasn't much longer. Wish to heck it would show up on a CD somewhere. Barry -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 22:59:30 -0500 From: ACJ Subject: Simon & Garfunkel's "Silent Night" Who was the newscaster on Simon & Garfunkel's Christmas single "Silent Night / Six [Seven?] O'Clock News"? I'm guessing it's Roy Halee, but I'd like to know for sure. ACJ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 22:31:51 -0500 From: Jeff Lemlich Subject: Sammy Ambrose Sammy Ambrose and Tony Middleton were two different people. Ambrose was a limbo dancer/singer who hit the road in the early 60s with a group called The Afro-Beats (which included one of Betty Wright's brothers). He had an excellent voice but stardom eluded him, and he returned to Miami Beach in the 70s, where he worked as a limbo dancer at the Place Pigalle burlesque joint. It was during the 70s that he was charged with murder for selling heroin to a war veteran who had overdosed. Ambrose himself later died in obscurity in 1988, at the age of 47. You can see a photo of Ambrose (and the Afro-Beats, as well) in our tribute to him over at the Limestone Lounge: http://tinyurl.com/4f2ct Jeff Lemlich -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 08:06:42 +0100 From: Frank Subject: Re: Saint Etienne > One of the most enjoyable times I've ever had as a > journalist was interviewing Mr. Stanley a few years ago, which > devolved into a long and detailed conversation about the '60s > records of one of our shared passions, France Gall. I was with France Gall this past Friday evening, and since you're a big fan, I can tell you that they're might be a big surprise coming soon. And in the meantime Warner France has just released a huge set of all her Warner recordings including some unreleased before sides and and a live concert DVD. Frank -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 00:31:19 -0800 From: Scott Swanson Subject: Re: Beverley's "Happy New Year" Mario writes: > Has anyone here heard the great Deram 45 (I think it was the > label's debut, along with Cat Stevens' "First Cut ...") "Happy > New Year" by Beverley. I have copies of both "Happy New Year" and its B-side ("Where The Good Times Are"). I'd upload them to Musica but there isn't room for them. As far as I know she only released one other solo track in the '60s -- a version of Donovan's "Museum" in July 1967. Now if only someone would upload THAT to Musica! LOL There is a brief interview with Beverley (born Beverley Kutner but known as Beverley Martyn since marrying and divorcing John Martyn) here: http://home.wanadoo.nl/hvandenberk/words/01wor03.htm She used to have her own website but it has been disbanded. :( Hope this helps, Scott -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 05:04:52 -0800 (PST) From: Lapka Larry Subject: Colgems Dear Mike, Joe Nelson and All: The morphing of Colpix into Colgems into Bell is an interesting story, one that I don't have very much knowledge about. I am almost 100 percent sure that during the episode where Bobby Sherman was "the teen idol," he actually held a copy of the David Jones LP for whatever reason. Whether it was Bewitched or The Monkees, this means the album (and a Colpix release) was available to the general public in 1966-1967--or after the time that Colgems supposedly replaced Colpix. Bell might have absorbed Colgems, but they really did little with the catalog. They released a lame Monkees greatest hits album called "Refocus" and they released the final Monkees single, although it was credited to Davy Jones and Micky Dolenz, not The Monkees. I am trying to find out more about the connection between the three labels, and even Arista, which I believe absorbed Bell's catalog in the mid to late 1970s. I have been in contact with Varese Sarabande about a legitimate Colgems "Greatest Hits", but have not had a bite yet. I think one is warranted. Larry Lapka -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:14:02 -0600 From: Charles G. Hill Subject: Harry and Cher If you happen to stumble across the Warner Bros. sampler album "All Meat" (PRO 605, 1975), you'll find "A Love Like Yours" credited to "Nilsson/Cher". Annotator Dr. Demento says: "Despite its youth, the 1974 Nilsson/Cher duet 'A Love Like Yours' is rare, having been greeted upon its 45 rpm release by the same sort of incomprehension that was accorded to Ike and Tina Turner's 'River Deep, Mountain High," to name another wonderful Phil Spector production. May I commend to you the entire catalog of Warner/Spector Records, which have stunning label design and music even more so, and also Cher's WB album, 'Stars'." cgh -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:40:42 EST From: Dan Nowicki Subject: Rhino Girl Group Box Lesley Gore's official Web site contains a blurb about Rhino Records planning to release a 4-CD girl group box set in June 2005. Does anybody on Spectropop have any insight into this project? Lesley's site only says, "They plan to go beyond the hits and showcase 'should-have-been-hits'. It will include two tracks from Lesley and a box book." Is there a tentative track list or any other details floating around out there? Dan Nowicki Phoenix, Arizona, U.S.A. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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