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Spectropop - Digest Number 1720



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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Brian Hyland
           From: Mark Wirtz 
      2. Re: Brian Hyland
           From: Mike Edwards 
      3. Re: The Toys
           From: Dave Monroe 
      4. Re: Brian Hyland
           From: Orion 
      5. Jaynetts' LP cover
           From: Paul Urbahns 
      6. Re: Joanie Sommers and a kazoo
           From: Fred Clemens 
      7. Re: Jaynetts Discography
           From: Tony Leong 
      8. Re: Velvelettes CD
           From: Frank Murphy 
      9. Spanky And Our Gang
           From: Stephanie 
     10. Re: Jaynetts versions
           From: Billy G Texas 
     11. Re: The Tales Of Jonathan
           From: Billy G Spradlin 
     12. Re: Brian Hyland
           From: Ken Silverwood 
     13. Eddie Hodges
           From: Mark Wirtz 
     14. Ron Dante aka Bo Cooper ??
           From: Orion 
     15. Layng Martine
           From: Austin Roberts 
     16. Alice Wonder Land / United Intl. / Bardell / Angie
           From: Dancing Time 
     17. Re: Good Girls Gone Bad
           From: Kingsley Abbott 
     18. Re: The Toys' "Ciao Baby" on CD?
           From: Kingsley Abbott 
     19. Re: The Madisons
           From: Robert Pingel 
     20. Re: kazoos & Ginnys
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     21. Re: Brian Hyland & Bobby Vee
           From: Bob Celli 
     22. Re: Hyland Hylights
           From: Brent Cash 
     23. Re: Jaynetts discography
           From: Barry 
     24. Re: Eddie Hodges
           From: Rodney Rawlings 
     25. Re: Eddie Hodges
           From: Robert Pingel 


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Message: 1 Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 22:45:13 -0000 From: Mark Wirtz Subject: Re: Brian Hyland Those of you who are connected to i-Tunes, can easily preview, then put together a comp of all your BH favourites, including the tracks that are being mentioned in this thread. Mark W :) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 01:09:06 -0000 From: Mike Edwards Subject: Re: Brian Hyland Al Kooper wrote (re: "Sealed With A Kiss"): > Awwwww Austin.....Gary covered it.. but yeah, Brian was the orig. Not so, Al. That honor went to the 4 Voices on Columbia 41699 from 1960. Mark Wirtz wrote: > When I listen to "Greatest Hits" comps by the various legends of the > early 60's, Brian's stuff always seems to stand out. Whereas other > comps contain music that may be brilliant, the material nevertheless > seems somewhat samey. In contrast, the diversity, creativity and > originality of Brian's material, production, and notably > arrangements, never cease to amaze me. How true. That rather humble 18 track "Greatest Hits" CD that MCA put out in 1994 is as good as any in my collection. It brings together Brian's 60s' material from "Itsy" (1960) through "Gypsy Woman" (1970). I guess the diversity resulted from Brian appearing on 5 major labels during the 60s: Kapp, ABC, Philips (where he recorded member, Artie Wayne's "3000 Miles" in 1966), Dot and Uni. This CD is still available, with amazon.com listing it at prices ranging from $5.98 through $11.98. Mark again: > When we think of Brian Hyland, we think of polka-dot bikinis and > pre-bubble gum ditties. How erroneous that impression is! Listen > to some of his more obscure tracks, and you will be amazed by the > adventurous creativity involved! Interesting. But if bubblegum started with "Simon Says" in 1968, then we would think of just about all Spectropop era recordings as being "pre-bubble gum ditties". Also that "adventurous creativity" was fully evidenced in his hit recordings such as "Sealed With A Kiss" (1962), "Run Run Look And See" (1966) and "Gypsy Woman" (1970). Mike Edwards -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 14:38:13 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Monroe Subject: Re: The Toys Austin Roberts wrote: > Somebody must know, especially in such an august group as Spectropop, > who was the classical composer who wrote the melody for the Toys' > "Lovers Concerto". Help! S'pop replies: > (Altogether now...) J.S. Bach - Minuet in G. [Well, that's the short > answer. The long answer may send us all to sleep]. This and more at: > http://www.philharmonic.u-net.com/ Answered, I see, but here be sheet music: http://www.pitt.edu/~deben/8BachMin.pdf My sight reading's not what it used to be (and it never was much), but that looks about right to me ... Dave M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 17:30:37 -0600 From: Orion Subject: Re: Brian Hyland Brian Hyland has been one of my favorite artists for many years. I remember my roomie and I in college fighting on which record was going to play. He disliked Brian Hyland and really was into Mitch Ryder and I, as stated previously, wanted to hear Brian Hyland. Sometimes I thought I might be one of his few avid supporters. Thanks other Spectro'poppers. Orion -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 19:18:32 EST From: Paul Urbahns Subject: Jaynetts' LP cover Barry wrote: > Tuff LP 13 - Sally Go 'Round The Roses - 1963 (the picture on the > album cover was pieced together by Zell Sanders, It shows Lezli > Valentine, Ethel Davis And An Unknown Young Lady)... Actually there were two covers, I assume the one that was issued first was the album with just a picture of roses. I know that one exists. Then when they had a group to tour they may have put the girls picture on the cover. But that is only a guess. Paul Urbahns -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 02:16:40 -0000 From: Fred Clemens Subject: Re: Joanie Sommers and a kazoo Jim Fisher wrote: > I was just listening to her "Johnny Get Angry" on the Girl Group > Greats CD and as the instro' bridge began it occurred to me that > instead of the usual sax' or similar it was actually being played > on what sounded mighty much like a Kazoo!! Could this be so? > Could the humble Kazoo be Top Ten material?? A kazoo was so unusual for the time. While Joanie was on the Charts in the Summer of '62, Dion snuck in with a song of the same device, "Little Diane". Both were Top 10 Hits, though not at the same time. Dion made Top 10 about a month after Joanie left the Top 10. And then there was that Flintstones character..., but I think he came along a little later on. Fred Clemens -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 05:02:11 -0000 From: Tony Leong Subject: Re: Jaynetts Discography Barry: > I wish someone would compile a Jaynetts CD... Meanwhile, I found > this on the web...... Barry, both you and John Clemente (in his wonderful book) have detailed the Jaynetts recordings and personnel on record so thoroughly. Interestingly, there are other people who have claimed to also sing on "Sally..." or were in the touring Jaynetts. During the mid-80's, I asked Johnnie Louise (who is mentioned in the liner notes of the original 1963 LP) about the group, and she told me that she sang on "Sally..", AND was in the touring group with Ethel Davis (also mentioned on the LP), and a girl named Sister. According to Johnnie, Ethel sang the lead on the solo parts (I guess on stage). No mention was made of the other girl in the liner notes (Mary Sue Wells). That was the only time I spoke to Johnnie--she passed away shortly after that. Much later, I got to speak to Louise Harris who sang with both the Hearts AND on Jaynetts records. She helped to clarify the personnel on the actual records. However, in some reference books, names like Yvonne Bushnell and Ada Ray were associated with the Jaynetts, but I was told they were just girls that worked for Zell Sanders, not actual group members. Either way, I would love for a Tuff Girl Groups CD collection to come out. Those of you who think "Sally." or "Dear Abbey" are mysterious, give a listen to "Snowman Snowman Sweet Potatoe Nose"!!!!!!! Tony Leong -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 20:04:32 +0000 From: Frank Murphy Subject: Re: Velvelettes CD Barry: > Thanx a lot for the information. I went to Amazon.com and > it's not listed. I didn't realize it was a UK import. I think it is less costly to release a 48 track CD in the UK as the publishing roylaties are fixed per album and the fixed sum is divided by the number of tracks. I know people on this list will confirm, clarify or demolish this supposition. I suspect that Universal think it is not worth their while to do other than Motown 'best of's and the custom made Hip O selects for the States and that the Motown fanatics will know how to import. Since 'This is Northern Soul' was the biggest selling budget album for them a few years ago, they know Motown sells in the UK and actually they are putting a bit of a sales budget behind their releases. I hope you enjoy the album. FrankM reflections on northern soul Saturday's two thirty pm http://www.radiomagnetic.com or listen to an archive show http://www.radiomagnetic.com/archive/rnb.php -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 05:34:09 -0000 From: Stephanie Subject: Spanky And Our Gang http://www.songbrokers.com/Ref_Lib/Ref_SpankyMcFarlane.html Above is the link to a wonderful interview with Spanky and she looks great in the pictures. Stephanie -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 09:06:38 -0000 From: Billy G Texas Subject: Re: Jaynetts versions I put together a CD version of the "Sally Go 'Round The Roses" earlier this year and while searching my CD library I found 4 different versions of the same song! 1) Stereo Mix - without the organ overdubs (MCA, and on a really cheap "Platinum" oldies CD) 2) Stereo Remix - with the Organ overdubs (Verese Sarabande) 3) Mono mix with a longer 13 second into and fade (Rhino) 4) Mono Mix with the regular 6 second intro, closest to the original 45 (Time-Life & K-Tel) I think its all about how these companies get ahold of the master tapes. Tuff was a tiny label, distributed through Chess. I'm guessing the MCA (Vintage Music) version is from a 2-track session tape, and it sounds to me like the Verese version (Collector's Essentials - All-Time Greatest Girl Groups) is the same version with the organ overdubs digitally "punched in" from the mono recording. Billy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 09:12:58 -0000 From: Billy G Spradlin Subject: Re: The Tales Of Jonathan I wrote; > A mystery single for the experts. > Tales Of Jonathan > Wild Strange Girls b/w She Ups and Changes Her Mind > MGM K13727 (black label) > Prod. By Paul Tannan > A Lamridge Production Peter Richmond: > Only a miniscule of information; Weird (sic) Strange Girls was > recorded in New York City 16 February 1967. She Ups And Changes > Her Mind was recorded in New York City 21 March 1967. Thanks for the informtation (sorry about the wrong title). At least now I know its not a UK-based production. I'll have to post it when space frees up in the Musica folder. Billy http://listen.to/jangleradio -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 11:31:48 -0000 From: Ken Silverwood Subject: Re: Brian Hyland >From Mark Wirtz: > In contrast the diversity, creativity and originality of Brian's > material, and notably arrangements never cease to amaze me, I > think I'm gonna play me some of that stuff right now. So I chose "I Should Be Gettin' Better", HMV 1013, the b-side to "Ginny Come Lately", on which Brian out Bobby Vees Mr Vee, right from the xylophone on the talking intro, the pacey rhythm, to the violins & also including a **kazoo** solo. I never tire of this record. Ken On The West Coast (looking for more) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 12:59:57 -0000 From: Mark Wirtz Subject: Eddie Hodges Here is a single that blew me away when it came out in the early sixties: Eddie Hodges' "Gonna Knock On Your Door". Did he make any other records, or albums? Would love to know. Also, I'm curious to find out where it was recorded, because it didn't sound like West Coast, Nashville, Memphis, or even New York. Question to those of you who remember that track -- can you hear the similarity in energy to current day's 'Maroon 5'? Best, Mark W. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 15:42:31 -0000 From: Orion Subject: Ron Dante aka Bo Cooper ?? I have searched our messages and don't see this anywhere, so if I missed it please forgive me. Mr Dante, I was looking at one of my Bubblegum M*****f***** CDs and it shows you singing "Christian" written by Cooper/Panzer but it says "'74 Bell 45. Bo Cooper is Ron Dante! Produced by Barry Manilow!" It is really a nice tune. Has anyone every had as many aliases as you? I do so enjoy ALL of your music. Orion -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 14:56:43 EST From: Austin Roberts Subject: Layng Martine Phil C. writes: > Clark, I was just thinking the same thing about "I Can Hear The Rain" > (Martine - Stallman). It may not be one of his strongest tracks, but > it does have something special (and S'pop appeal) and compares > favourably with the perhaps better known version by Reparata & The > Delrons. I have a mint-ish UK copy, but the pressing sounds poor. > I've played it to musica anyway. What's so cool about S'pop is info like this about Layng Martine, who is one of my favorite co-writers and friend. He was in New York, already writing by the time I moved there in 1968. We met in Nashville in the mid 1970's. He is such a modest guy, he never talks about himself. When a lot of us here get down, we get a Layng fix because he's always up and fun to write with. Thanx for the info. Austin R. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 20:11:22 -0000 From: Dancing Time Subject: Alice Wonder Land / United Intl. / Bardell / Angie Greetings! My first post, very happy to join Spectropop! Would anyone on the list know if the Alice Wonder Land who recorded 'It Was Only A Dream' / 'My Joey' on United International Records 1001 is the same artist who had the great 'He's Mine (I Love Him, I Love Him, I Love Him)' on Bardell, and, as Marie Antoinette, 'He's My Dream Boy' on Providence? Her real name supposedly was Alice Faye Henderson. Wonder what became of her? For the United International release, the producer is listed as "Alice Wonder-land, Inc." and the composers are J. Northern - F. Payne ('Dream') and Tony Casino - John Marga ('Joey'). The flip is pretty good, with a nice saxophone. Sounds like 1961 or thereabouts. It would be nice to learn more about the United International label, too. I presume it was based in New York. I know of a couple of releases, including one by Mary Ann Lorri, 'I Wanna Thank You' / 'One More Tear' (United International 1004); one by the Monclairs (a different group from the others by the same name, most likely), 'Come On And Hold Me' / 'Young Wings Can Fly' (1013); and one by the great Connie McGill & The Visions, 'He Created You For Me' / 'No! I Won't Believe It' (1009). Come to think of it, it would be great to learn more about the Bardell and Angie group of labels, too. Home of the great Laddins (featuring Frankie Gearing) - as well as the immortal 'He's Mine' - that's about all I know... Thanks in advance! D_T -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 17:05:23 -0000 From: Kingsley Abbott Subject: Re: Good Girls Gone Bad Doc Rock asked: > Can anyone tell me what this CD is like? [Good Girls Gone Bad - Wild, > Weird & Wanted] It's girlie rockabilly territory, with tracks mostly from the '56-'58 era. Good of their type, but not S'pop 60s girlie stuff. Kingsley Abbott -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 17:10:32 -0000 From: Kingsley Abbott Subject: Re: The Toys' "Ciao Baby" on CD? Jeff Smith asked: > I have a Toys CD, but it doesn't contain "Ciao Baby", my favorite > of theirs. Is it on CD anywhere? I assume you have the Sundazed collection, where it certainly isn't, but I have seen it somewhere on a (I think) British CD that had a few different ones on. I don't have it myself, but I'll try to talk to someone who may know. Kingsley -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 13:54:29 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Pingel Subject: Re: The Madisons Rob Pingel wrote: > Does anyone have any information on the members of The Madisons? > Recently discovered their single on MGM, and was blown away by > the song "Looking for a True Love". Written by Larry Santos. > Sounds like it was tailored for the 4 Seasons. One great hook > after another. Flip side, "Cheryl Ann", also written by Santos. Billy G. Spradlin: > Who was the producer? Santos wrote "Candy Girl" for the Seasons, > and also recorded as "Larry & The Legends" with the Seasons on > backing vox on Atlantic... I'm a sucker for anything with Crewe's > classic "Stomp-Clap" formula so if you could post the record I'd > love to hear it! Hey Billy, Both sides were produced by Larry Santos for Bob Crewe Productions. "Looking for a True Love" has the stomp-clap formula down pat. No arranger credits given, but if it's not Charlie Calello, then it's a great imitation. The drummer also has to be the same guy on the 4 Seasons records. Very distinctive. Sorry I can't post the record. Rob Pingel -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 16:22:28 -0500 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: kazoos & Ginnys Ken Silverwood wrote: > So I chose "I Should Be Gettin' Better", HMV 1013, the b-side to > "Ginny Come Lately", on which Brian out Bobby Vees Mr Vee, right > from the xylophone on the talking intro, the pacey rhythm, to the > violins & also including a **kazoo** solo. I never tire of this > record. Speaking of kazoos and Ginnys, doesn't Ginny Arnell's "Dumb Head" have a such a solo, too? --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 22:17:49 -0000 From: Bob Celli Subject: Re: Brian Hyland & Bobby Vee >From Mark Wirtz: > In contrast the diversity, creativity and originality of Brian's > material, and notably arrangements never cease to amaze me, I > think I'm gonna play me some of that stuff right now. Ken Silverwood: > So I chose "I Should Be Gettin' Better", HMV 1013, the b-side to > "Ginny Come Lately", on which Brian out Bobby Vees Mr Vee, right > from the xylophone on the talking intro, the pacey rhythm, to the > violins & also including a **kazoo** solo. I never tire of this > record. Ken, Funny you should mention Mr. Vee, as he and Brian are very close. In fact, Brian is godfather to Bobby's son Robby. Btw, as soon as some space comes open I'll post a demo duet featuring Bobby Vee and Brian Hyland doing a tune they wrote back in the mid sixties I believe. Bob Celli -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 23:19:17 -0000 From: Brent Cash Subject: Re: Hyland Hylights Robert wrote: > His Del Shannon-produced 1970 album is a total gem. Yes indeed, and it contains one of my three favorite Hyland "Hylights," the Jimmy Webb-like "You And Me." I can imagine Glen Campbell doing that one. Anybody know why it has the suffix "(#2)" on the 45? Apologies to anyone who may have e mailed me off-list in the last two to three months. I now have my current address displayed instead of the inactive one, and will finally be able to receive such messages. Best wishes to all, Brent Cash -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 17:20:08 -0600 From: Barry Subject: Re: Jaynetts discography Tony Leong wrote: > Either way, I would love for a Tuff Girl Groups CD collection to come > out. Those of you who think "Sally" or "Dear Abby" are mysterious, > give a listen to "Snowman Snowman Sweet Potatoe Nose"! ... or "Peepin' In And Out The Windows"! Barry in Minneapolis -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 01:08:57 -0000 From: Rodney Rawlings Subject: Re: Eddie Hodges Mark Wirtz wrote: > Here is a single that blew me away when it came out in the > early sixties: Eddie Hodges' "Gonna Knock On Your Door". > Did he make any other records, or albums? That was and is one of my favorite records. You will find this and other information at http://www.meekermuseum.com/ehodges.html In addition to singing on Broadway and in several films, Hodges' musical contributions included four singles which appeared on Billboard's Hot 100 chart in the early to mid-1960s: Cadence Records: 1961: "I'm Gonna Knock on Your Door" (peaked at #12) 1962: "Bandit of My Dreams" (peaked at #65) 1962: "(Girls, Girls, Girls) Made to Love" (peaked at #14) Aurora Records: 1965: "New Orleans" (peaked at #44) The three Cadence sides are currently available on Volumes 1 & 2 of Varese Sarabande's "The History of Cadence." -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 15:25:25 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Pingel Subject: Re: Eddie Hodges Mark Wirtz wrote: > Here is a single that blew me away when it came out in the > early sixties: Eddie Hodges' "Gonna Knock On Your Door". > Did he make any other records, or albums? He charted with "Girls Were Made To Love," which was written by Don Everly. He also did a surprisingly good remake of the Gary U.S. Bonds song "New Orleans," which I think also charted. Less successful but equally good was a recording of "The Old Rag Man", co-written by Al Kooper. Rob Pingel -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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