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Spectropop - Digest Number 1654

               SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop!

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Carl Wayne, Steve Duboff, Roquel (Billy) Davis, R.I.P.
           From: S'pop Projects 
      2. Boom!, Skeeter, North Syde
           From: Bob Rashkow 
      3. Various subjects
           From: Clark Besch 
      4. The Murmaids
           From: Martin Roberts 
      5. New @ S'pop Recommends: Teenage Crush
           From: S'pop Projects 
      6. Jim Croce
           From: Austin Powell 
      7. Re: They All Wanna Sound Like Dion
           From: Gary Myers 
      8. Dean Reed's "Elisabeth"/ Claire Francis' " But I Donīt Care"
           From: Julio Niņo 
      9. Re: Skeeter Davis, R.I.P.
           From: Bill George 
     10. Re: Sandy (with a Y) Shaw
           From: DPWirth 
     11. Re: If You Wanna Be Happy
           From: Joe Foster 
     12. Re: They All Wanna Sound Like Dion
           From: Fred Clemens 
     13. Python Lee Jackson
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     14. Re: more on Dean Reed
           From: Fred Clemens 
     15. Florence Ballard song
           From: Jason de Sah 
     16. Re: remembering Jim Croce
           From: Austin Roberts 
     17. All's Quiet on West 23rd
           From: Dave O'Gara 
     18. Re: The Outsiders
           From: Mark 
     19. Re: Frankie's Got It
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     20. Welcome
           From: Claire Francis 
     21. Re: Dean Reed
           From: Andres 
     22. Thanks for the welcome
           From: Claire Francis 
     23. Claire Francis; Cowsills
           From: Country Paul 
     24. Re:  Izora Rhodes Armstead, R.I.P.
           From: Simon White 
     25. Re: There were tears in my eyes.....
           From: Andres 

Message: 1 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 00:46:06 +0100 From: S'pop Projects Subject: Carl Wayne, Steve Duboff, Roquel (Billy) Davis, R.I.P. Dear Members, Alas, obituaries for Carl Wayne, Steve Duboff and Roquel (Billy) Davis have been added to the Remembers section, the place where we honour our recently departed heroes and heroines. The Billy Davis epitaph was specially compiled for S'pop by Mick Patrick from various online obituaries and other sources. Please take the time to read these tributes. S'pop Remembers;, most recent entries at foot of page: R.I.P. The S'pop Team -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 20:43:09 EDT From: Bob Rashkow Subject: Boom!, Skeeter, North Syde Clark, I wish I could put "Won't You Be Friendly With Me?'" and the almost-as-pretty B side on musica but I don't know how to scan stuff and it's on vinyl. But I do know that it's gorgeous, it's from approx. 1968, and Musicor "almost" released it for chart consideration. I'm sure it got some airplay on CFL and WLS at the time, although I don't specifically recall hearing it. Maybe I can see if Harvey Daniels is still in Chicago and try to contact him which I'd like to do anyway. Skeeter Davis, we will miss you. I have a fair copy of "I Can't Help You (I'm Falling Too)", one of her earliest charts, a response to Hank Locklin's smash. Davie Gordon, thank you for the Boom discography. The only 45 I have on Boom is "Hide and Seek", and I've since heard Bunker Hill's wonderful original version, but it was The Sheep that pounded through my brain as a kid, and my sister and I used to count along with them in the car, "5 10 15 20......" Austin Roberts: Which song is The American Breed cutting (of yours)? I'll watch out for it. Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 05:31:41 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Various subjects A variety of subjects. Thanks to Country Paul for the Shadden & King Lears info. How bout a play to Musica? Since the long Vee version is on Cd, I can't put it up on Musica. As for your comments on "If You Wanna Be Happy", I once played the song on my radio show around 1980 (before there were oldies stations in Lincoln) and someone called and said they did not like me playing the song and how would I like it if I were considered ugly and it was played? I really had no answer for her. Since then, oldies stations popped up here and eventually started playing the song. I always wonder if they get those calls when they play it or "That's the Way Boys Are" by Lesley Gore when she sings about her boyfriend hitting her. How do these get by when they always have answers for not playing "2525" as a downer song, or "Ballad of the Green Beret" as being outdated or "unlistenable"? Many on here might cringe at that song, but most people I know from the 60's like it. A goodbye and a welcoming. Goodbye to the great Skeeter Davis. Is it possible to think of that voice as ever being 73? You will long be remembered. A welcoming to Claire Francis. I must admit that I have never heard the name before, but after hearing the song posted to Musica, you have a very strong voice and it is a shame you didn't have any hits. Great to have you aboard! As for the Outsiders' "Bend me, Shape me", the big deal about the Outsiders' version is that (altho not the first version released) it was the first nationally heard version via the Lp on Capitol, a year or so ahead of the American Breed. The Montanas did this live on the BBC in early 68, but the Amen Corner had the big Uk hit with it, altho the American Breed's version eventually charted and reached the top 25. As for the BOOM! label discography, I have to admit I like novelty songs and my fave "Boomer" is Cab Calloway's "Great Men Repeat Themselves", his take off on "History Repeats Itself". A couple of original comments. I heard EMI is releasing a Cd of John Lennon acoustic versions of his songs. I think that'll be great. I like hearing these things, especially when it is not revisionism thru "rerecording" songs nowadays (ala "Real Love"). Certainly, hearing George's acoustic "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" for the first time was amazing. I expect similar things from the lennon package. I've heard the "unplugged" "A Day in the Life" before and it is cool to hear it that way. I'll not likely like any of these versions better than the released versions, but it's fun to hear it that way. On another note, I heard a local station play the new Hall and Oates single: "I'll Be Around". I will admit that it sounded almost identical in some ways to the Spinners' 70's hit, but like their cover of "You've Lost That Loving Feeling", I don't like the idea of doing a song just like one that was already huge and better originally. "Feeling" DID reach number 12 and their next umteen singles were huge. Maybe that's the idea now, but it won't work, as there is no real outlet in my opinion for it. I'm sure it will sell, but it reminds me of when the Righteous Bros were forced to record standards continuously. It's just not necessary. Lastly, I want to thank everyone for setting me straight on any things I get wrong. I often don't comment on some of these things, but I do listen and apologize when I get anything wrong. Take care, Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 19:18:59 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: The Murmaids Michael Godin's mention of interviewing Ron Dante and the show being archived on his site jogged my memory. Ronnie Allen chatted to the Murmaids some while back but the archived interview doesn't seem to work. Any sharing, caring S'popper got a copy? Best, Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 01:19:54 +0100 From: S'pop Projects Subject: New @ S'pop Recommends: Teenage Crush ... With 28 well-selected tracks; the representation of under- exposed classics; the outstanding liner notes (scholarly and fun simultaneously); and the amazing photos, ads and label scans which are included, my hat is off to this soundtrack of a significant part of my musical youth ... (Country Paul Payton) Read Paul's full review of the brand new CD Teenage Crush, Volume 4 (28 clean-cut pop rockers and teen ballads from the late '50s and early '60s) at the Spectropop Recommends section: Enjoy, The S'pop Team ----------------------------------------------------------------- PS: Is there a recent CD, book or DVD that you consider to be of particular interest to the S'pop readership? Would you like to write a review of it for the Recommends section? If so, simply reply to this message and one of the S'pop Team will get back to you. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 11:28:52 +0100 From: Austin Powell Subject: Jim Croce Artie Wayne: > It's hard to believe that it's been thirty years since my friend Jim > Croce went down in a plane crash. Artie, Sanctuary Records here in the UK are about to release (or maybe have just done so) a 3 CD set of Jim's work called "Jim Croce - The Way We Used To Be". Nearly 70 tracks in all including TV demos from '69 and "live" things from the final tour. Also has great notes/booklet from Geoff Wall which includes input from Ingrid and from Tommy Cashman. Austin P -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 12:15:22 -0700 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: They All Wanna Sound Like Dion Austin Roberts: > Greatest Dion sound-alike, in my opinion, was the one-hit wonder, > number one record Little Star by The Elegants ... Yes, a good one. Another good one is the Mystics "Hushabye". In May 1962 I was playing in Fargo, ND, when a show featuring the Belmonts and several others was in town. Some of the people from the show came into the club, and Carlo of the Belmonts got up and sang a couple with us. The funny thing was that he did two of Dion's solo hits. gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 19:02:17 -0000 From: Julio Niņo Subject: Dean Reed's "Elisabeth"/ Claire Francis' " But I Donīt Care" Hola Eveybody. Iīve been searching for information about Dean Reedīs "Elisabeth" and Iīve found something in a German web dedicated to him: 1- According to that web the song was composed by B. Molnar? (lyrics) and H. Buchholz y H. Loose? ( music). The credits have those question marks, so I deduce that they are not completely sure. 2- Iīve heard a mp3 of the song and Iīm pretty sure that Iīve never heard it before, although it reminds me a lot of the many silly and disposable songs that occurred here in Spain in the seventies, epitomized by the sonic horrors perpetrated by the indescribable Georgie Dann. 3- In respect to the Spanish lyrics, let's just say that you are lucky if you canīt understand them. The web includes lots of photos of him, he was really handsome in his youth and looked like the stereotype we Mediterranean people have of the American male beauty. Iīm convinced that looking "so American" could have been an important factor for his success in South America, East Germany and Russia. Anyway it seems to me that the character is much more interesting than his songs or films. Chao. Julio Niņo. PS: I love the wonderful "But I Donīt Care" by Claire Francis currently playing in Musica, itīs as powerful and beautiful as a summer storm. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 01:48:35 EDT From: Bill George Subject: Re: Skeeter Davis, R.I.P. I'm still catching up with my digests (as usual), but when I saw the two Skeeter Davis tracks in musica I felt a bad omen. So I skipped ahead and found what I feared. I knew Skeeter had been ill for some time, but I hadn't heard an update in at least a couple of years. I'd been thinking about her recently and had been meaning to ask if anyone knew anything about her condition. Too late now. She was one of my all-time favorites. I have most of her albums and singles, and I read her autobiography. I even got the chance to see her at the grand ol' opry about a dozen years ago and she was the best one on the show. She bounced on stage in a silk kimono! She will be missed, but her music will live on. She definitely had "the spirit" about her. Bill -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 14:44:58 EDT From: DPWirth Subject: Re: Sandy (with a Y) Shaw "Wiedehopf in Mai" is a special kind of bird in May. "Einmal glücklich ..." means literally "one time happy." DPWirth -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 20:43:45 +0100 From: Joe Foster Subject: Re: If You Wanna Be Happy previously: > I always wondered if there had been a calypso version before -- or after. > Anyone know? There's a pretty good version on Robert Mitchum's calypso album, which he always claimed was pretty much like the original writer's (or at least as credited on his album) version. Take a look (shameless plug). Joe -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 19:41:18 -0000 From: Fred Clemens Subject: Re: They All Wanna Sound Like Dion Austin Roberts wrote: > Greatest Dion sound-alike, in my opinion, was the one-hit wonder, > number one record Little Star by The Elegants, circa 1958. What a > great record! It was more the other way around. Dion has stated on more than one occasion that he modeled his solo vocals after Vito Picone of The Elegants, particularly on the vocals on The Elegants' "Please Believe Me". Fred Clemens -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 16:00:21 +0000 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Python Lee Jackson I recently revisited the Python Lee Jackson hit "In A Broken Dream," to see if I'd still like it as much as I did when I first discovered it in Sire's "History Of British Rock" series about a quarter-century (yikes!) ago. I do! It's a terrific track, but this time around I began to wonder what this "Python Lee Jackson" thing was all about. Not only have I never heard anything else by them, I haven't even heard OF anything else by them. Were they merely a studio concoction, tossed together for just this one session, or were they a real working (albeit short-lived) band? Do we know know who else, besides Rod Stewart, was involved? If I'm not mistaken, the record was originally on Immediate. Yeah, --Phil M. P.S. On an unrelated matter, I just wanted to thank whoever it was who played the Lecia & Lucienne track "Waiting On The Corner" to musica. It's totally nuts and fun, especially the organ part. I also dig the Claire Francis track, and hope to hear more of her story soon. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 20:34:05 -0000 From: Fred Clemens Subject: Re: more on Dean Reed Chris wrote: > I'd actually first heard about Dean Reed in the "American Rebel" > documentary. What I found interesting was the fact that he got his > start in 1959 at Capitol, which, despite "The Search," his first release, > only reaching the fifties on Billboard, kept releasing several more > singles until 1961. My first aquaintance with Dean Reed was with a 45 on Capitol I picked up in the mid '70s, "The Search"/"Annabelle". It wasn't until his death in 1986 that I learned any info on him. Entertainment Tonight did a broad profile on his career, talking about how early on he was acting on TV (Bachelor Father), and then his move to Russia and his political leanings. I was really surprised so much info was given on this relatively unknown singer. Fred Clemens -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 18:55:58 EDT From: Jason de Sah Subject: Florence Ballard song Hi, I'm kinda new to the group and I was wondering if anyone can tell me which CD has the song "Save Me A Star" by The Supremes on it. It has Flo on lead and it was released on a Supremes compilation. Jason de Sah -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 18:31:00 EDT From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: remembering Jim Croce Artie Wayne wrote: > It's hard to believe that it's been thirty years since my friend Jim Croce > went down in a plane crash. At the exact time of his passing, Patti > Dahlstrom (who'd introduced me to him) and I were writing a song > that we turned into a message to Jim, "Sending My Good Thoughts > To You". You can click on and > hear Patti's 20th Century recording. I knew Jimmy pretty well and miss him still. He knew I was from the south and he would ask me to tell him any southern stories I could think of, things that happened to me and others I knew. He said that some of his songs were based on things he'd heard about and he'd take it from there. He and his guitarist Maury were great talents. Please give Patti D. my best. Kerry Chater introduced us 20 years ago. I haven't seen her since, but we have many mutual friends. Best, Austin Roberts -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:19:38 -0000 From: Dave O'Gara Subject: All's Quiet on West 23rd I recently did a search for All's Quiet on West 23rd Street by Julie Budd and ended up with a copy (mp3) of the song by Jet Stream instead. I wasn't able to find any chart information on either version, although I did discover that the song was written by Resnick-Levine, and that and the Julie Budd version on MGM was produced by Herb Bernstein. It's the Budd version I remember from the radio but I was unfamiliar with the Jet Stream version. Anyone have any recollections on these two versions? Were they out at the same time, and did the competition from the two prevent either from becoming the hit I think it should have been? Also, oddly, the word "Street" is in the title on the sleeve but is not used in the song. If anyone has a copy of Julie Budd's version they could play to musica, it would be great to hear again. I see that Julie did manage to reach the charts with a version of "One Fine Day" in 1976. Thanks, Dave O' -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 02:50:28 GMT From: Mark Subject: Re: The Outsiders Hey Guys! Running WAY behind in my e-mails, sorry I haven't posted in a while, but I have to contribute to this thread. Tom King of The Outsiders is a good friend of mine (I think I've mentioned this before), and he told me that Weiss and English pitched "Bend Me, Shape Me" to The Outsiders. They recorded it, though they weren't too keen on the song (Tom says it's slower than the American Breed's version), but decided not to put it out as a single due to the American Breed releasing it. Incidentally, it's on their fourth album, "In", and not "Outsiders #2". With regards to the "Happening Live" LP, Tom told me that they got a bunch of high school kids to come down to the studio, lie down on the floor and scream as if they were really seeing a live concert. Not a great LP by any means, but I am a fan and collector and they were from my hometown, so I would put it in my collection. I should add that I wrote the liner notes for the comp of Tom's earliest work, "Roots Of The Outsiders" (his sides with Tom King & The Starfires) and his most recent live CD, "The Outsiders 30 Years Live", both on Collectables. Best, Mark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:44:15 -0400 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: Frankie's Got It Jeff Lemlich wrote: > Guida masterminded a very cool promotional record for the shop in > 1969. "Frankie's Got It!" by the Steve Peele Five is a pretty good > psychedelic novelty that can be heard on the "Aliens, Psychos, & > Wild Things" compilation of Tidewater-area bands. Excellent track. Thanks for sending me back to hear it again, Jeff -- some of those comps are packed so tightly with great records that it can be a struggle for some of the less obvious ones to properly catch your ear. A nice companion for "Frankie's Got It" would be "Go To Rhino Records," Wildman Fisher's unsolicited (if I recall correctly) plug for the original Rhino store and their very first release as a label. Anyone know of any other songs about record shops, especially real-life ones? --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 20:04:22 EDT From: Claire Francis Subject: Welcome Kevin Higham: > Just to introduce myself to the group. Kevin Higham, UK-based, listen > to USA R&B, which in the UK is split Vocal Harmony, R&B, Soul, > Northern Soul, Deep, Southern, Motown, etc., as well as Modern/ > Crossover. I also listen to Blues, Soulful Reggae, Bluebeat, oh and > even some '50s and '60s Gospel, which seems had to get to hear! So "I > have my ears wide open" and give most tunes a try. I prefer USA 45s > myself, but have a growing number of CDs; all the LPs gone now, > though. Hope to contribute if and when I can. Welcome Kevin, I just joined the Spectropop group as well. I am in search of any singles of work by Claire Francis, records produced by me of other artists, as well as records recorded by me. This was on the Polydor label in the mid sixties, and on United Artists. I wrote a song with Herbie Hancock called "I Love New York", and I do have a copy of that, but anything else would be greatly appreciated. I would appreciate any help. Thanks, Claire -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:23:49 +0400 From: Andres Subject: Re: Dean Reed Eddy Smit wrote: > Apparently Dean Reed had more than strong sympathies for Communism. > After all, there was a reason why he lived in the GDR and was so > popular in the USSR. I also heard that he was the member of the US Olympic team in the late '50s (track and field). Interesting person. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 00:03:49 EDT From: Claire Francis Subject: Thanks for the welcome Hi Clark, Thanks for the welcome. I really love the Spectropop website. I hope you enjoyed my record "But I Don't Care". It is true that I have a very strong voice and still do. I enjoy singing because when I sing I feel like I am in a state of true Spirit. When people ask me if I believe in a Higher Power, I say, yes, especially when I sing. I know you said "it's a shame I didn't have any hits", but hey, it's not over 'till it's over baby. I have a feeling that one of these days it will come because my voice is still strong and I'm still around. Love & Light Claire -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 00:06:35 -0400 From: Country Paul Subject: Claire Francis; Cowsills Claire Francis: > My name is Claire Francis. I was head of A&R for Polydor in London > for a few years in the sixties. While I was there, I recorded myself > as an artist. I recorded "But I Don't Care" and "I've Got My Own > Thing Going", for Polydor records in the 60's.... Welcome aboard, Claire, from a Yank who had never heard of you before listening to "But I Don't Care" on musica. Nice big sound; I'm impressed. Care to discuss any of the artists you brought to UK Polydor while you headed A&R there? Phil M: > ...[T]hanks for the recent posting of The Cowsills' "All I Really > Wanta Be Is Me." I'd never heard this song before, but, despite the > distractingly loud snare, really enjoyed it. Pure folk-rock, of the best > variety, in fact it reminds me in places of The Beau Brummelstones' > "Don't Talk To Strangers." And, for better or worse, it's very hard to > find a trace of the group that would soon enough be hitting with "Hair," > "The Rain, The Park, Etc.," and the theme to "Love American Style." Amen to all the above. I liked the pre-Rain Park phase best, myself, and also had never heard this little gem. Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 07:46:05 +0100 From: Simon White Subject: Re: Izora Rhodes Armstead, R.I.P. Eddy wrote: > R.I.P. Izora Rhodes Armstead, half of The Weather Girls of "It's > Raining Men" fame. Sad news. I saw the Two Tons Of Fun as back ups for Sylvester when they came to the UK in the late 70's and it was the first time I'd experienced big voiced gospel soul singing live. I was completely blown away and to this day it remains the best performance I've ever seen live. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:27:55 +0400 From: Andres Subject: Re: There were tears in my eyes..... Claire Francis: > Dear Mick Patrick and Spectropop members, Thank you for playing my > song in your music room. My whole family sat there with tears in > their eyes as we listened. "But I Don't Care" was so much of a > thrill to produce, write, arrange and record. I forgot for a moment > in time just how great the thrill was. Thanks for bringing in on home > to me... Dear Claire, Thank you once again for your music! As I was reading your message there were tears in my eyes too. It's really great that we have this Spectropop forum where we can meet our favorite artists. Best regards from Moscow, Russia! ANDRES -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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