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Spectropop - Digest Number 1633



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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Scott Shannon's True Oldies
           From: Dave O'Gara 
      2. Re: The Cowsills
           From: Bob Rashkow 
      3. Re: Cash Box singles charts online
           From: Gary Myers 
      4. Re: The Frank Guida Sound
           From: Austin Roberts 
      5. Re: The Frank Guida Sound
           From: Austin Roberts 
      6. Re: Glen Campbell
           From: Jens Koch 
      7. Chuck Berry and  Al Kooper
           From: Dave 
      8. Re: The Cowsills
           From: Gary Myers 
      9. Re: Keith; Bunker Hill; Rain
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     10. Re: Cash Box charts
           From: Orion 
     11. Re: Gary Bonds, songwriter
           From: Gary Myers 
     12. Re: Chuck Berry and  Al Kooper
           From: Eddy Smit 
     13. Re: The Cowsills
           From: Richard Havers 
     14. Re: Jerden label
           From: Superoldies 
     15. Re: Glen Campbell
           From: Steve 
     16. Re: Bunker Hill
           From: Davie Gordon 
     17. Re: Promo Men
           From: Austin Roberts 
     18. Rain, the Kinks & other things
           From: Ken Silverwood 
     19. Re: Bunker Hill
           From: Norm D. Plume 
     20. Re: Glen Campbell
           From: Jens Koch 
     21. Re: The Cowsills
           From: Gary Myers 
     22. Dean & Jean
           From: Austin Powell 
     23. Re: The Cowsills
           From: Richard Havers 
     24. Re: Jerden label
           From: John Berg 
     25. Re: Dean & Jean
           From: S'pop Projects 


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Message: 1 Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 15:38:06 -0000 From: Dave O'Gara Subject: Scott Shannon's True Oldies For those of you who have lamented the tight playlists of Oldies Radio Stations, there is now something different available. I don't know how many markets he's in, but New York DJ Scott Shannon's True Oldies Channel has landed in my city and the playlist is refreshing. They claim to have over 10,000 singles available and vow to play them all, from doo-wop to the early 70's. So far, I haven't caught any repeats. You'll find some details on his website: www.trueoldieschannel.com One song I heard yesterday that I always loved but never owned was Tra La La La Suzy by Dean and Jean. Don't know anything about the writers or performers. Anyone here have some insight? Thanks.. Dave 0' -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 12:25:35 EDT From: Bob Rashkow Subject: Re: The Cowsills Clark Besch: > ... the Partridge Family are phonies whether you like music or not. I always thought it was quite a step down for Shirley Jones, even though the series must have introduced her to a whole world of TV viewers who'd never seen many of her flicks or her musicals, etc. Still, they came up with some good stuff. "It's One Of Those Nights" is probably my favorite and I never heard the LPs in their entirety. However! That said! They pale in comparison with their supposed mentors The Cowsills. Among all the beautiful stuff The Cowsills did is the B-side to "Poor Baby", "Meet Me at the Wishing Well", which I always thought of as their effort at a late 6Ts protest tune. The Philips and Joda sides are super and well worth having. Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 10:08:09 -0700 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: Cash Box singles charts online David A. Young: > ... Randy Price has compiled the data from most all charts from > Cash Box magazine from the '50s through the '90s. There is a book on the CB charts: "Cash Box Pop Singles Charts, 1950-1993" by Pat Downey, George Albert & Frank Hoffman, 1994, Libraries Unlimited: Englewood, CO. gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 15:04:55 EDT From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: The Frank Guida Sound S.J. Dibai: > ... while Doug Sahm must have written that tune as a Texan answer > to U.S. Bonds. What's all the more delightful about this track is > that it was the flip side of Sir Doug's cover of "Quarter To Three"! Here's an aside. Gary Bonds is an old friend (name dropper) who had a certain singing and writing style, but here's the kicker; he co-wrote the country smash Friend Don't Take Her She's All I've Got for Johnny Paycheck. Austin R. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 15:15:31 EDT From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: The Frank Guida Sound Steve Jarrell: > I was told by so folks from Norfolk that did work for Frank Guida > that Frank had his studio remodeled at one time. After the remodeling > was complete, the sound was lost and no more hits came out of the > studio. Austin, do you know or did you ever hear that story? I did hear that story; it does sound like something most people end up doing though. Don't screw with what works! Austin Roberts -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 00:47:48 +0200 From: Jens Koch Subject: Re: Glen Campbell Robert: > I wish Brian could have produced a whole album for Glen Campbell! I just watched the Imagination DVD. In there Glen talks of how he was fooling around on his guitar during one of the studio sessions with Brian. Brian heard, picked up on it, and lo and behold, the opening riff of "I Get Around was born". Jens -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 00:03:21 -0000 From: Dave Subject: Chuck Berry and Al Kooper Hey, guys, been kinda following the group for a while, but I'm a bit younger, and don't know all the references. Anyhow, I was doing a bit of *illegal downloading* (I'm actually one of the few who actually use downloading as a means to find new music to go buy) and I came across a file that said "Chuck Berry and Keith Richards- Nadine- Live in St. Louis, 1987". It was a video (from 'Hail, Hail, Rock and Roll", I believe) and I was wondering if that was Mr. Kooper on keys. If so, where was that filmed? Like I said, I'm relatively young, and just learning about a lot of the things discussed on this list. Dave Btw- my band "Earl" (www.earlsounds.com) was invited to play "Beautiful Delilah" on a tribute to Chuck Berry called "Brown-Eyed Handsome Man" coming out this month on Undertow Records, with such artists as Jay Farrar, Fontella Bass, Ry Cooder, the Bottlerockets, and many more. It should be a really good album. np: "Street Fighting Man" by the Stones -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 20:57:30 -0700 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: The Cowsills Me, earlier: > I think Jon Cowsill (who was too young to be in the group during their > hit days) is now playing drums for the Beach Boys. << Richard: > Jon plays guitar and sings. So you mean he's not playing drums for the BB's? I know he sings very well, but he was also playing drums very well in that lounge trio (named "Sassy" with a girl singer and KB player who handled LH bass). At one point he told me that he auditioned to become one of the Lettermen (one member was leaving). I didn't know he also played guitar. At any rate, I'm pretty sure I heard something about a "Jon Cowsill" drumming for the BB's, but maybe it was only on one tour or something. gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 20:58:10 -0400 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: Keith; Bunker Hill; Rain Country Paul wrote, re Keith: > And what a strange-lookin' cat he has become. Indeed, he seems to have morphed into David Lee Roth! > ... for anyone who doesn't know the song, join Davie's group and listen > to Bunker Hill's "Hide & Seek" (Mala 451) - it rocks like crazy, but the > sound quality makes Gary US Bonds on LeGrand sound like digital hi-fi! If you think Bunker Hill's "Hide And Seek" is wild, try out his "The Girl Can't Dance" sometime. Hill's tracks on both were, I believe, provided by Link Wray and his Raymen. I've found lurking on my hard drive a reggae version of Jose Feliciano's "Rain" (refrain: "Listen to the falling rain, listen to it fall"). Anyone know who this version might be by? Yeah, --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 22:14:01 -0500 From: Orion Subject: Re: Cash Box charts Gary Myers wrote: > There is a book on the CB charts: "Cash Box Pop Singles Charts, > 1950-1993" by Pat Downey, George Albert & Frank Hoffman, 1994, > Libraries Unlimited: Englewood, CO. I have that book you mentioned, but it is out of print and very hard to find. It is a great book though, much like the Billboard books. orion -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 21:00:13 -0700 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: Gary Bonds, songwriter Austin Roberts wrote: > Gary Bonds is an old friend. He co-wrote the country smash Friend > Don't Take Her She's All I've Got for Johnny Paycheck. Wasn't there also a soul version of that? And, if so, is it possible that version came first? gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 09:10:44 +0200 From: Eddy Smit Subject: Re: Chuck Berry and Al Kooper Dave wrote: > I came across a file that said "Chuck Berry and Keith Richards- > Nadine- Live in St. Louis, 1987". It was a video (from 'Hail, Hail, > Rock and Roll", I believe) and I was wondering if that was Mr. > Kooper on keys. If so, where was that filmed? If you're referring to the October 16, 1986 show, filmed at the Fox Theatre in St Louis, the keyboard player there would be Chuck Leavell. Eddy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 08:58:49 +0100 From: Richard Havers Subject: Re: The Cowsills Gary Myers wrote: > At any rate, I'm pretty sure I heard something about a "Jon Cowsill" > drumming for the BB's, but maybe it was only on one tour or something. Gary I was wrong, it's keyboards John plays. Mike Kowalski drums for the BBs, as he has for a good many years. Richard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 04:13:44 -0000 From: Superoldies Subject: Re: Jerden label Have the masters for Jerden surfaced? Offhand I'm only aware of the early Paul Revere sides on this label. Shawn www.superoldies.com 12000 oldies in rotation (1955-1969) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 12:59:42 -0000 From: Steve Subject: Re: Glen Campbell Rob wrote: > Guess I'm Dumb is about as perfect as '60s pop gets. With an amazing > vocal by Glen, and production by Brian Wilson, this single should have > been a huge hit. This song is the reason I bought the Pet Projects > (Brian Wilson Productions) CD. I wish Brian could have produced a > whole album for Glen Campbell! You should hear the B side, That's All Right. It's another great song, plus an earlier single called Same Old Places. They both knocked me out when I heard them. Same Old Places is a Pitneyesque ballad, but Glen's voice is deeper and darker on this one. Oddly enough one of his very early singles, Prima Donna, sounds exactly like a Johnny Crawford reject. Guess he was trying all kinds of things at the time. Cheers, Steve -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 14:00:37 -0000 From: Davie Gordon Subject: Re: Bunker Hill Phil Milstein wrote: > If you think Bunker Hill's "Hide And Seek" is wild, try out his "The > Girl Can't Dance" sometime. Hill's tracks on both were, I believe, > provided by Link Wray and his Raymen. For more on Bunker Hill have a look at http://koti.mbnet.fi/wdd/bunkerhillbio.htm While you're there have a look around the rest of this excellent Finnish website -- one of the best places on the net for info on the roots of rock. Davie -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 11:58:31 EDT From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: Promo Men The late Jerry Fine was the BEST promo man I ever worked with (at Chelsea Records in 1972 and 1973. Another good one was Lenny Petze (not sure of spelling before Cindy Lauper days). Austin R. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 17:16:49 +0100 From: Ken Silverwood Subject: Rain, the Kinks & other things Phil said: > I've found lurking on my hard drive a reggae version of Jose > Feliciano's "Rain" (refrain: "Listen to the falling rain, listen > to it fall"). Anyone know who this version might be by?" And I would give the answer "Bruce Ruffin", 1971 on Trojan Records, no relation to Jimmy or David of course! Totally unconnected is the news that The Kinks "You Really Got Me" is out on sale to commemerate the 40th anniversary of it topping the UK charts. Bad news I didn't know was that Dave Davies is recovering from a stroke & also Eden Kane (who now resides in L.A) is also recovering from a heart problem. Eden was due to appear as part of one of the Golden Oldie package tours doing the rounds of the UK, for the life of me I can't recall who's taken his place. Ken On The West Coast -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 10:08:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Norm D. Plume Subject: Re: Bunker Hill Previously: > If you think Bunker Hill's "Hide And Seek" is wild, try out his > "The Girl Can't Dance" sometime. Hill's tracks on both were, I > believe, provided by Link Wray and his Raymen. > For more on Bunker Hill have a look at: > http://koti.mbnet.fi/wdd/bunkerhillbio.htm > > While you're there have a look around the rest of this excellent > Finnish website -- one of the best places on the net for info on > the roots of rock. There's a great scene in John Walter's movie "Hairspray" that features the kids in a record store dancing to "Hide & Seek". Does anyone know the dance they were doing? Such a good movie... ...and such a good website, too; thanks for the link, Davie. Does anyone know of a good Bunker Hill CD? I don't know if he did enough to qualify for a whole compilation, but even a few tracks together would be a gas. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 18:10:30 +0200 From: Jens Koch Subject: Re: Glen Campbell Steve: > You should hear the B side, That's All Right. It's another great > song, plus an earlier single called Same Old Places. They both > knocked me out when I heard them. Same Old Places is a Pitneyesque > ballad, but Glen's voice is deeper and darker on this one. Oddly > enough one of his very early singles, Prima Donna, sounds exactly > like a Johnny Crawford reject. Guess he was trying all kinds of > things at the time. My favorite Glen track from this period, and probably of all time, is Can't You See I'm Tryin' ... Guess he was trying to be rock'n' roller too. Jens -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 09:59:56 -0700 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: The Cowsills Richard: > ... it's keyboards John plays. Mike Kowalski drums for the BBs, > as he has for a good many years. So, it this the same Jon (John?) Cowsill that I'm talking about, who also plays drums, and who was one of the youngest of the Cowsill family? It sounds doubtful. gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 01:26:17 +0100 From: Austin Powell Subject: Dean & Jean Dave O: > One song that I always loved but never owned was Tra La La La Suzy > by Dean and Jean. Don't know anything about the writers or > performers. Anyone here have some insight? Best I can do is....Dean was Welton Young and Jean was Brenda Lee Jones. Apart from Tra La La La Suzy which they wrote they also did Hey Dean, Hey Jean (Let's Have A Party) (an Ernie Maresca song). I loved 'em both. I guess they recorded other stuff but these two are the only ones I ever got. Both were on Rust around 63/64 and both got a UK release on EMI's Stateside label. Austin P -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 20:39:31 +0100 From: Richard Havers Subject: Re: The Cowsills Previously: > ... it's keyboards John plays. Mike Kowalski drums for the BBs, > as he has for a good many years. > So, it this the same Jon (John?) Cowsill that I'm talking about, > who also plays drums, and who was one of the youngest of the > Cowsill family? It sounds doubtful. John Patrick Cowsill....one in the very same. I just wish I sounded more believable. I guess having screwed up on the guitars for keyboards made it sound like I don't know! Mike Kowalski......the present BBs drummer is a good friend, he played on Bryter Layter by Nick Drake.....does that sound like I know? Last time I saw John was at a gig at Edinburgh Castle, we chatted about the fact that I had bought 'The Rain The Park and Other Things' in Andorra with a Spanish picture sleeve.....wish I still had it. Here's a little link http://www.beachboysband.net/MEMPAGES/JC_PAGES/JC_H-PAGE.htm Richard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 14:56:33 EDT From: John Berg Subject: Re: Jerden label Shawn, Over the past few years there have been no less than three series of releases of Jerden masters -- by Ace Records (UK), Sundazed (USA) and Norton (USA). Ace's Alec Palao went right from the master tapes, having come here to Seattle to DAT everything in the Jerden vaults and thus unveil true stereo mixes on quite a few songs for the first time. All these series are worth buying, as each comes with slightly different song selections, and each has good liners. John Berg, Seattle area -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 20:56:19 +0100 From: S'pop Projects Subject: Re: Dean & Jean Dave O: > One song that I always loved but never owned was Tra La La La Suzy > by Dean and Jean. Don't know anything about the writers or > performers. Anyone here have some insight? Austin Powell: > Best I can do is....Dean was Welton Young and Jean was Brenda Lee > Jones. Apart from Tra La La La Suzy which they wrote they also did > Hey Dean, Hey Jean (Let's Have A Party) (an Ernie Maresca song). I > loved 'em both. I guess they recorded other stuff but these two are > the only ones I ever got. Both were on Rust around 63/64 and both > got a UK release on EMI's Stateside label. S'pop have installed a new search engine. How useful. Let's see, type in the words "Brenda Lee Jones", click "Go", and up pops a message submitted by Mick Patrick three years ago. Find it reprinted below. At your service, The S'pop Team ------------------------------------------------------ Message: 1 Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 21:46:08 +0100 (BST) From: Mick Patrick Subject: BRENDA MELSON RIP Singer/songwriter/guitarist BRENDA MELSON, better known as Jean of 1960s duo Dean & Jean, has died aged 63. Her lengthy recording career included collaborations with Eubie Blake, Roland Kirk, Tommy Tucker and Richard "Groove" Holmes. Brenda also recorded solo as Brenda Jones, Brenda Lee Jones and Brenda Lee Melson. Born in Dayton, Ohio, Brenda began her recording career in the early 1950s. She teamed up with Welton Young in 1958, the pair were christened Dean & Jean by their manager, future congressman C J McLin. Dean & Jean inked with the New York-based Laurie label in 1960. Early duties included the writing of songs such as "King Without A Queen" and "The Majestic" for Dion. Dean & Jean began recording for Rust in 1962 and hit the Top 40 with "Tra La La La Suzy" and "Hey Jean, Hey Dean" in 1963/4. They recorded many other excellent tracks for the company including stomping updates of the evergreens "I Wanna Be Loved" and "Mack The Knife" but split up soon afterwards. Brenda went on to record with Richard "Groove" Holmes. After overcoming cancer in 1979 Brenda became a born again Christian and began a voluntary career in prison welfare. She and her husband formed the Son Reign Ministry in 1985. Of the 28 prisons in the state of Ohio, Son Reign ministered in 23 of them. After a lengthy hiatus Brenda resumed her recording career in the 1990s distributing cassettes of her albums free of charge to any prison inmate who requested them. Brenda Melson died of cancer on Saturday August 4 aged 63. MICK PATRICK PS Some readers may be aware that I was involved in the release of a Dean & Jean LP some years ago. Brenda (Jean) was a big favourite of mine. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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