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Spectropop - Digest Number 1617

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There are 14 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Jim Ford
           From: Bryan 
      2. Re: new "Smile" CD
           From: Jens Koch 
      3. Re: New "Smile" CD
           From: Bryan 
      4. Columbus Jones
           From: Austin Roberts 
      5. Duh! Sunshine Company distortion "meant to be there"!!!
           From: Dee 
      6. Benny Gordon
           From: Simon White 
      7. Brian & Smile
           From: Richard Williams 
      8. The Accents featuring Sandi
           From: Billy G. Spreadlin 
      9. Hal Blaine Book Reissued
           From: Greg Matecko 
     10. Re: New "Smile" CD
           From: MJ 
     11. The Accents featuring Sandi
           From: Davie Gordon 
     12. The Accents featuring Sandi / Moya Donnelly
           From: Julio Niño 
     13. Re: Dickey's Rocky
           From: Austin Roberts 
     14. The Clusters live this Saturday in Lodi, NJ
           From: Country Paul 

Message: 1 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 18:43:12 -0700 From: Bryan Subject: Re: Jim Ford Previously: > 3025 -- Jim Ford : Linda Comes Running / Sing With Linda (1967) > 3027 -- Jim Ford : Ramona / ? (1967) [Mustang's last 45] The b-side of "Ramona (My Darlin')" (Mustang 3027) is "She Knows How To Make Me Feel Like A Man," from March 1967. It was the last single released on Bob Keane's Mustang label and wasn't properly promoted (according to Keane). Bryan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 00:05:16 +0200 From: Jens Koch Subject: Re: new "Smile" CD Kurt Bemnbenek wrote: > Which Smile album cover are you referring to? The new Smile cover is previewed at - it's consistent with the merchandise sold at the concerts. I'm posting it in the photo section as well. Jens -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 18:46:50 -0700 From: Bryan Subject: Re: New "Smile" CD Previously: > Sad to hear the new Smile release will be mostly new recordings. So, > no vocals, even, will be from the original sessions? The 'Smile' vocal tracks are owned by Capitol; the new 'Smile' album is coming out on Warner Strategic Marketing's Rhino label -- Brian Wilson (his management, etc.) met with several record labels to present a package deal which would include the release of a newly-recorded 'Smile,' his new CD 'Gettin' In Over My Head,' and the Showtime cable TV special (I'm sure there were other terms and conditions). The Capitol vocal tracks were not made available to Darian and Brian. Bryan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:53:13 EDT From: Austin Roberts Subject: Columbus Jones Jeff Lemlich: > I found a 45, "Sharon Stay In Birmingham," by Columbus Jones on > White Whale 315. Austin is credited as the writer; Tobin and Cymbal > share producer credits. I can't place the voice, so I have to ask: > "Who was Columbus Jones"? I remember writing the song and Cymbal and Tobin wanting to record it with someone, but I don't believe it was me, as I think I was with Dunhill and the Arkade by then so they found another act. I liked the song, but I don't remember the record and I doubt anyone else does either. If you do have a copy I would appreciate hearing it. Just let me know. Best to you, Austin R. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 00:42:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Dee Subject: Duh! Sunshine Company distortion "meant to be there"!!! Orion wrote: > Speaking of Rev-Ola, I purchased a CD from then by the group The > Sunshine Company. It sounds like it was made from LPs for sure, > as track 11 has the sound of the needle picking up and about 6 > or 7 seconds of distortion... Joe Foster wrote: > This one was from master tapes as supplied by EMI/Capitol, and > was mastered a number of years ago at Sound Mastering at Ace > Records. I take a lot of care with the stuff I put out, and I'm > sorry you were disappointed I've always respected Joe Foster, great musician and record label magnate, but now even more so as he had the opportunity to point out the mistake of the original post, but chose not to, in what I can only imagine to be his characteristic brand of humility. What a swell guy. "Track 11" is the song "I, To We, And Back Again." The "sound of the needle picking up" and subsequent distortion is *meant* to be there - it's on the original LP, and also on the Collectors' Choice Sunshine Company CD (they did their own comp, with a slightly different track listing). It's meant to mimic the "drop" of a record onto a turntable and the beginning of a song . . . it's PART OF THE RECORD . . . conceptual musical art from the 60's! For what it's worth, I'm only missing a few Rev-Ola releases (even from their initial incarnation - I beamingly purchased their first release, a Fire Engines CD, the day it became available), and I've always found their sound quality pretty fine - sometimes quite excellent, sometimes simply about what I'd expect from 30-40 year old tapes, but no real disappointments at all for me. Buy with confidence, folks! There are some differences in mastering between the Rev-Ola and Collectors' Choice, but I can't say one sounds better than the other - however, the Rev-Ola version has a better track selection and one more track, so that's the way I'd go if I were undecided. Dee -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 07:46:21 +0100 From: Simon White Subject: Benny Gordon I'm appealing to Spectropoppers out there in the vain hope that one of you will have some information on a gentleman called Benny (sometimes Bennie and sometimes with "The Soul Brothers") Gordon. He had soul and funk 45 releases on a number of labels in the sixties including RCA, Capitol and a number of smaller labels including Enrica and importantly Estill which seems likely to have been his own label. I can find no releases other than those by Benny on Estill. There is also one album release. Does anyone have any info on him or the Estill label? Yours in slight desperation, Simon White -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 10:25:21 +0100 From: Richard Williams Subject: Brian & Smile Mark Wirtz wrote: > Has anybody involved in all these lively "Smile" debates considered > the fact that ALL classical music recordings/performances are "re- > performances" and newly generated recordings? Does that lessen their > substance in any way, despite their subtle, sometimes not so subtle, > "personalised" interpretations by soloists and conductors? This is a good and valid point, but not a definitive one. Rather than comparing Brian with Mozart or Bach, let's make a comparison with Duke Ellington and Charles Mingus. Their music -- which, like Brian's, is in a sense "orchestral" -- is still performed several decades after their deaths by ensembles bearing their names. It's always worth hearing in that form, but it's not the same. Their presence and that of their close collaborators (their regular soloists) was vital to the deepest essence of their music. The work will continue to be performed, accurately and enthusiastically, but that essence won't -- can't -- be there. Perhaps (probably, even) in 50 years' time people will still be performing Beach Boys tunes as a kind of classical music. But will be it the same, when deprived of all its original performers and divorced from its cultural context, in quite the way that a Beethoven symphony seems to be essentially the same as it was in its composer's own lifetime, even when subjected to the variation of a present-day conductor's interpretation? Richard Williams -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 10:29:12 -0000 From: Billy G. Spreadlin Subject: The Accents featuring Sandi Clark Besch wrote: > Also, with the positive response to the P.F. Sloan demo, I've played > to musica a 45 some of you might already know, "I've Got Better > Things To Do", by the Accents featuring Sandi. I have no idea who > this was, but I would guess some of you do. Unlike many Sloan covers, > this actually had his involvement! Released on CRC (Charter Record > Company) 1017, this dark song was not only written by Sloan and Barri, > but arranged by them as well. Would be neat to hear a demo of this. > The B-side was written by G. Lapano, if that gives any clues. Anyway, > hope you enjoy these 2 sides. I recognise the name Gene Lapano - he was one of the Cascades, who also released a great single on CRC Charter (CR-1018) in 1965: "She Was Never Mine (to lose) b/w "My Best Girl". The only other artist on this label I have seen was a 45 by "The Ultra Mates". Billy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 07:43:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Greg Matecko Subject: Hal Blaine Book Reissued Hiya Folks! The Hal Blaine book has been re-released. It's a smaller version, size- wise, and has some really strange graphics on the cover. There is one page in the book that has a section of new type literally pasted over the original page. I got my copy at Barnes and Noble here in Pittsburgh. Earl Palmer, another studio vet, also has a book called "Backbeat" that has some studio memories as well. He credits Carol Kaye for bringing the "Motown Secret" to light. Speaking of Motown, Dennis Coffee also has a book out called "Guitars, Bars and The Motown Superstars" that recalls his days as an auxilliary member of the Funk Brothers. Greg Matecko -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 08:46:09 -0400 From: MJ Subject: Re: New "Smile" CD I, for one, have no issue with artists perfroming their inetrpertation of SMILE. I think that a lot of people would like to have the original works asembled as best as they could in a single place. SMILE was never completed and therefore I can understand Brian wanting to make it complete. The fans would have complained if he had added new songs to the old collection to finsih it off. I think that this is probably a biz calculation. Brian can release the new SMILE frist and then release the original works. There will be a vast number of people who will run out and buy Brian's new SMILE becasue the original is not available. Once this new SMILE is out and selling, we will then start to hear that the original will be released in 2005 in a box set - perhaps AFTER the BRIAN performs SMILE LIVE CD. I would also argue that most people would be drawn to buy the original recordings of Beethoven's 9th if the great master would have been alive in the age of recoridng studios over the Boston Pop's version. A Matisse painted by your cousin is nice, but I would prefer the artists' original version created in the original time and space. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 11:00:21 -0000 From: Davie Gordon Subject: The Accents featuring Sandi Clark Besch wrote: > Also, with the positive response to the P.F. Sloan demo, I've played > to musica a 45 some of you might already know, "I've Got Better > Things To Do", by the Accents featuring Sandi. I have no idea who > this was, but I would guess some of you do. Unlike many Sloan covers, > this actually had his involvement! Released on CRC (Charter Record > Company) 1017, this dark song was not only written by Sloan and Barri, > but arranged by them as well. Would be neat to hear a demo of this. > The B-side was written by G. Lapano, if that gives any clues. Anyway, > hope you enjoy these 2 sides. Clark, have a look at this link to an article about the Cascades which has some info. on Mr. Lapano and Sandi & The Accents: The whole site's worth a look as there's info. there on groups who are rarely written about. Davie -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 14:03:42 -0000 From: Julio Niño Subject: The Accents featuring Sandi / Moya Donnelly Hola Everybody. Clark Besch writing about the songs he´s just played in musica: > ...Anyway, hope you enjoy these 2 sides... Hola Clark. I've liked very much both of them. Thanks. Moya Donnelly's "Marvellous Boy" is very nice but I prefer much more the superb "I've Got Better Things To Do" by The Accents featuring Sandi. The main voice has the perfect blend of vulnerability and defiance. But what I find totally irresistible is the game between her voice and the second voice. It's a very sexy combination. By the way, as ussually, I have a problem distinguishing if the second voice is a boy or a girl. I would say that it's boy. I don'´t know if Moya Donnelly's track was recorded in UK, but the composer of the song, Harold Spiro, worked there, at least in the final sixties and seventies. I think he was one of the composers of Olivia Newton John's 1974 Eurovision Song Contest UK entry, "Long Live Love". Chao. Julio Niño. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 09:24:01 EDT From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: Dickey's Rocky Bob Rashkow: > Question for Austin R.: Not having heard Dickey Lee's recording of > your fabulous hit "Rocky", in 1975 did he still have that "Laurie"/ > "Patches" sweet yet sharp edge to his singing voice? I always think > of Dickey as having a Bobby Vinton voice with about 3 times the > insulin. Patches must have been pretty high on the Country charts > too, but Laurie wasn't (if I had to guess)--Laurie, other than being > one of the sickest "sickies" of the Sickie Sixties, is pure pop > while Patches has much more of a heartland feel to it. Dickie became more and more country during the 70's and 80's, though he recorded very little in the 80's. His version of Rocky was country sounding, while mine was purely pop. He still does pop shows and sings all his old pop hits (Patches, Strange Things Happen In This World, I Saw Linda Yesterday etc.). He has written some country hits, quite a few,in fact, including She Thinks I Still care and lives in Nashville. I see him quite often and he is still a very humble, very talented friend. Hope this covers your questions. Best, Austin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 13:23:21 -0400 From: Country Paul Subject: The Clusters live this Saturday in Lodi, NJ A while back, I, Al Kooper and a couple of others were raving about The Clusters' "Darling Can't You Tell" (TeeGee, 1958), my personal favorite uptempo doo-wop song of all time. The Clusters are performing along with the current incarnation of The Dubs ("Could This Be Magic," "Please Don't Ask Me To Be Lonely") this Saturday Night at the UGHA meeting/show in scenic Lodi, NJ (John Fogerty didn't write the song about this Lodi, but he could have). Also on the bill: a "local" group from (I think) Philadelphia, Cornerstone featuring "Golden Voice Harry" (I don't make these up, friends!) and the unique ramblings of host and UGHA founder Ronnie I. Details of the event at click on "Upcoming Shows". Their own website, plays an excerpt of a somewhat labored re-recording of their hit when opened. (It used to play the original; Morris Levy's or George Goldner's ghosts must have gotten to them!) If anyone's going, please e-mail me off-list; perhaps we can meet and reserve a table. Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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