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Spectropop - Digest Number 1586



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There are 16 messages in this issue.


Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: U.S.A Records (Chicago)
           From: James  Holvay 
      2. Re: Myddle Class
           From: Mick Patrick 
      3. "Midnight Special" / Buddy Saltzman
           From: Niels 
      4. Re: U.S.A Records (Chicago)
           From: Gary Myers 
      5. Alfie
           From: Frank Murphy 
      6. The New Rascals, Turtles, Grass Roots
           From: David Coyle 
      7. Re: The Candymen
           From: Phil X Milstein 
      8. Re: Candymen
           From: Al Kooper 
      9. How About Dee Dee's "You're No Good"?
           From: Mark Hill 
     10. need song ID from French Scopitone
           From: thirteen_eagle 
     11. Al Kooper via Gary Criss to musica
           From: Joe Nelson 
     12. Re: U.S.A Records (Chicago)
           From: Billy G. Spradlin 
     13. Re: The Candymen / Allman Joys
           From: Eddy 
     14. Re: The Candymen / Allman Joys
           From: Gary Myers 
     15. Bob Gallo
           From: Niels Chr Junker-Poulsen 
     16. NY studio muscicans: Don(ald) Thomas
           From: Niels Chr Junker-Poulsen 


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Message: 1 Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 09:10:43 -0700 From: James Holvay Subject: Re: U.S.A Records (Chicago) Billy: > I also found a 45 by Mike Tomasetti called "Come See What I Got" > (USA 856) - written Tomasetti/Hovay. Anyone from the Chicago area > know anything about this 45? Local hit or not? Bill, That was a song that I co-wrote and produced back in 1964/65. It was not a hit locally or otherwise but it is considered a very collectable 45 in Northern Soul circles. Mike T. went on to become one of the singers in a group called The Neighborhood. They had a hit covering the Joni Mitchell song "Big Yellow Taxi". James Holvay -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 16:49:55 +0100 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: Myddle Class Don H: > Goffin/King-penned Myddle Class track playing at Musica. I got > this song on a rare demo disc. There were no liner notes, just > a list of song titles without artists. Most of them were Carole > King, but I have to assume this one was the Myddle Class. > Listen for yourself. Cool track, thanks. From a rare demo disc, you say? A whole LP full? Mostly Carole King? So exactly what's on it and where can I obtain one? Gagging to know more. Hey la, Mick Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 13:53:09 -0000 From: Niels Subject: "Midnight Special" / Buddy Saltzman Al Kooper mentions that he thinks Buddy Saltzman played the drums on Paul Evans' "Midnight Special". I think Buddy Saltzman once said himself (can't remember where though) that he didn't get started in a serious sense as a studio musician 'till '61, '62 or even '63. Correct me if I'm wrong. Niels -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 10:19:38 -0700 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: U.S.A Records (Chicago) Billy G. Spradlin: > ... found a 45 by Mike Tomasetti called "Come See What I Got" > (USA 856) - written Tomasetti/Hovay. Anyone from the Chicago > area know anything about this 45? Local hit or not? I have a bit of info pertaining to Tomasetti and, as you probably know, Jim Holvay (rather than "Hovay") is a member in here. Because several Wisconsin acts had releases on USA (which actually began in Milwaukee), I have many tidbits of USA info. I'll see what I have for Tomasetti. gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 20:16:08 +0000 From: Frank Murphy Subject: Alfie previously: > Cher's entire version plays at the end scene when > Alfie's at the river." Substitute "Cilla's" for the original UK cinema release. The soundtrack was of course by Sonny Rollins. FrankM -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 13:22:18 -0700 (PDT) From: David Coyle Subject: The New Rascals, Turtles, Grass Roots I'm going to see the Turtles, the Grass Roots and the "New Rascals" at the Ohio State Fair this week. I know what to expect from the Turtles and the Grass Roots having seen both groups multiple times, but know little about the New Rascals. I've learned from the web that the New Rascals only contain Dino Dannelli and Gene Cornish from the original group. There is no actual New Rascals website I can find to see anything else about the group. Has anyone seen the New Rascals? What do they do for a lead singer, considering the two best known voices of the Rascals are not there? I did see some references to Wally Bryson being in the New Rascals at some point, but I can't confirm that he is still touring with them. That would definitely be the highlight for me, considering he was a founding member of two of my favorite '60s and '70s groups, the Choir and the Raspberries. On top of that Dannelli, Cornish and Bryson were all members of Fotomaker, the group that recorded "Where Have You Been All My Life?" (not the Arthur Alexander song) in 1978, a song that had to probably be playing at every prom and wedding in the country when it was out, and hopefully will be played at my wedding. Are Flo and Eddie still putting on a good show? The times I saw them I noticed that music really kind of took a back seat to retro-hippie comedy...sort of like Flo and Eddie were a less-zonked Cheech and Chong. I was talking about this upcoming show with a friend who is going with us, when my fiancee called in from the kitchen, "The Turtles are going to be there, right? I like the Turtles..." I'm 32 and I've always loved this kind of music for some reason, but for my 27-year-old fiancee, who has only known me for two years, to be as excited as I am to see a '60s group in concert is inspiring to me. David -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 18:15:08 -0400 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: The Candymen Wasn't The Candymen the name of Roy Orbison's backing group? If so, was it a different Candymen than the one that turned into ARS? Also, why am I confusing The Candymen with the group that became The Allman Brothers? Maybe they had a candy-related name, too, such as Allman Joy or something like that. This is all starting to make me hungry for a snack. Dig, --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 18:58:00 EDT From: Al Kooper Subject: Re: Candymen Bob Rashkow: > "Georgia Pines" by The Candymen Austin: > I loved that record and knew a couple of members of the group. > I think Rodney Justo was the singer, but that's been a good > while ago. He used to hang out with B.J. Thomas and me on the > road in the early to mid 70s. Rodney was 'odd' but a lot of fun. They evolved into the Atlanta Rhythym Section - same drummer, bassist and keyboardist. Rodney Justo lasted one album in that configuration. Al Kooper -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 19:00:11 -0400 From: Mark Hill Subject: How About Dee Dee's "You're No Good"? Mick: > This is in Musica: Dee Dee Warwick - Don't Call Me Anymore > (Jubilee 5459) ....From 1963, the A-side of "You're No Good", written by Clint Ballard and Les Ledo, arranged and conducted by Garry Sherman, a Leiber and Stoller Production. How about the A side be placed in Musica, too???? The recent post about this was the first I had heard that there were so many other versions. Other than Rondstadt and Betty Everett. The Swinging Blue Jeans...??? Wow! Learning every day... "Dr. Mark" Hill * The Doctor Of Pop Culture /*/ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 00:47:39 -0000 From: thirteen_eagle Subject: need song ID from French Scopitone In the late seventies I saw sketch on Saturday Night Live called "Bad Cinema" in which they showed what I believe to be a Scopitone in French with a catchy song possibly titled "Allez, Gigi" - Male vocal, film showed several guys dancing around some girl riding in a horse-drawn carriage. Title? Artist? Year? Help? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:13:53 -0400 From: Joe Nelson Subject: Al Kooper via Gary Criss to musica Now playing @ musica: "Little Joe" by Gary Criss. An obscure Diamond B-side written by Al Kooper, Irving Levine and Bob Brass [spelled correctly on the label but I couldn't resist the "This Diamond Ring" in-joke - sorry :-)]. Thanks to Tom Diehl for this, undoubtedly more rare Diamond sides are on the way. Enjoy, Joe Nelson -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 06:12:41 -0000 From: Billy G. Spradlin Subject: Re: U.S.A Records (Chicago) Me: > ... found a 45 by Mike Tomasetti called "Come See What I Got" > (USA 856) - written Tomasetti/Hovay. Anyone from the Chicago > area know anything about this 45? Local hit or not? Gary Myers: > I have a bit of info pertaining to Tomasetti and, as you probably > know, Jim Holvay (rather than "Hovay") is a member in here. Thanks - my 45 has someone's pen marks scribbles on it, making it hard to see who wrote it. Didn't Jim Holvay write the Buckinghams' hits "Kind of A Drag" and "Don't You Care?". Anyway it's a fine piece of Chicago pop - very much inspired by Major Lance/Curtis Mayfield's "Monkey Time". I can hear why the Northern Soul croud like this one. Billy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 08:23:06 +0200 From: Eddy Subject: Re: The Candymen / Allman Joys Phil X Milstein: > Wasn't The Candymen the name of Roy Orbison's backing group? > If so, was it a different Candymen than the one that turned > into Atlanta Rhythm Section? Also, why am I confusing The > Candymen with the group that became The Allman Brothers? Maybe > they had a candy-related name, too, such as Allman Joy or > something like that. Totally different band backing Orbison! Here's a list of the people that at one point or another were members of Orbison's Candy Men: Dewey Martin - drums, Robert Nix - drums, Bobby Goldsboro - guitar, Barry Booth - piano, band director, Paul Garrison - drums, Billy Sandford - lead guitar, Billy Gilmore - bass and John R. Atkins - guitar. Yes, The Allman Joys was an earlier incarnation of the Brothers. I believe they only had Spoonful (c/w You deserve each other) released as a single during their lifespan, but with the success of the Brothers they had some unreleased recordings put on an LP by Dial in 1973. STOP PRESS on Orbison & the Candy Men: Although as far as I can see it is not the same band, apparently two members actually toured with Orbison as well. So this may need a little more investigation. Eddy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:47:17 -0700 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: The Candymen / Allman Joys Phil X Milstein: > ...why am I confusing The Candymen with the group that became The > Allman Brothers? Maybe they had a candy-related name, too, such > as Allman Joy or something like that. Almost - Allman Joys. And did I ever tell you that the 2nd teen band I played in, in Florida, also included Dickie Betts? gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 10:11:50 +0200 From: Niels Chr Junker-Poulsen Subject: Bob Gallo Browsing thru old messages on the list, I realise that Bob Gallo has been brought up before, and it seems like not much is known about him. He did own the TalentMasters studio in the sixties with his partner Bob Harvey (a manager). The address was at 126 West 42nd St. A lot of great records have been recorded in this studio. The Who and a lot of r'n'b stuff. Gallo and Harvey did sell the studio to Atlantic Records in 1966 or at the beginning of 1967 ... and I'd sure like to know more about any recollections about this studio. Niels. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 10:18:41 +0200 From: Niels Chr Junker-Poulsen Subject: NY studio muscicans: Don(ald) Thomas I just can't seem to find any info on Don(ald) Thomas. He was a guitar player and is to be heard on sessions in New York in the mid-sixties. But also with The Monkees, I believe. Anybody got any info on Mr. Thomas? Sessions he did participate in. Where did he come from? His whereabouts since then? etc. Niels. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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