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Spectropop - Digest Number 1584



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There are 13 messages in this issue.


Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: The Carefrees
           From: Fred Clemens 
      2. Virginia Vee / 60s French Pop
           From: Tom K 
      3. The Candymen
           From: Austin Roberts 
      4. Industry insights
           From: Austin Roberts 
      5. P.J.Proby / Peter James
           From: Austin Powell 
      6. On Broadway
           From: Alan Ackerman 
      7. You're no good
           From: Peter Lerner 
      8. Re: What's It All About . . .
           From: Joe Foster 
      9. The Epic Splendor
           From: Joe Nelson 
     10. Re: Myddle Class playing at Musica
           From: Kevin Kern 
     11. Alfie
           From: Frank Murphy 
     12. Ringo records - one more question
           From: Andres Jurak 
     13. Re: Brill Building
           From: Lex Cody 


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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 03:55:06 -0000 From: Fred Clemens Subject: Re: The Carefrees Andres Jurak: > I've posted a pic of the Carefrees LP sleeve in the Photos > section. I'm not sure if the photo is of their original LP > cover or re-release. The LP was made in Canada. No year of > release anywhere. The Carefrees on the pic look rather old > for 1964. Does anyone remember how the original LP looked > like? Is it the same? That's the way the original 1964 London LP (US version) looked. The group weren't all that young at the time they recorded. If I recall, the eldest member was one of the guys, at 25. I'd have to check the LP, though the ages should be on the liner notes of your LP as well (on the reverse). Fred Clemens -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 23:24:19 -0000 From: Tom K Subject: Virginia Vee / 60s French Pop Hi there. I just returned from a brief visit to gay Paree, and while scouring a shop near the Sorbonne I took a chance on an interesting-looking disc, namely this 1969 Polydor France release: Virginia Vee - "I Can't See Nobody" c/w a song called "Boum Boum Boum". The A-side is written by B. M. and R. Gibb (those ones, right?) and the B-side, which incidentally is sung in French, is by J.C. Olivier and R. Valade. No idea who those are, but as far as I can tell with my high-school French, it was produced by Claude Ebrard for the Robert Stigwood Organization France (!) and recorded at IBC Studios by (possibly, it refers to his job as "prise du son"?) by Mike Leander, while arrangements and production are by Jimmy Horowitz. I'm pretty confused by the credits, but the record itself has a glorious mid-tempo 'blue eyed soul' feeling on both sides. Vocally, she sounds American or British rather than European, and looks black or mixed-race on the sleeve. Just wondered does anyone know anything else about this artist or record? I can scan the picture sleeve or rip the song to Musica if it hasn't officially been released on CD. And just out of interest, does anyone know of any books or substantial magazine articles written about the French ye-ye and pop scene of the 1960s? I'm strongly considering writing one, and would like some pointers on research or indicators of whether anyone would be interested. Au revoir, Tom K -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 02:37:51 EDT From: Austin Roberts Subject: The Candymen Bob Rashkow: > "Georgia Pines" by The Candymen I loved that record and knew a couple of members of the group. I think Rodney Justo was the singer, but that's been a good while ago. He used to hang out with B.J. Thomas and me on the road in the early to mid 70s. Rodney was 'odd' but a lot of fun. Austin R. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 02:58:35 EDT From: Austin Roberts Subject: Industry insights Bob Rashkow: > And Austin R., it all paid off, didn't it?! All those years of > penning, then a singing career, and it was all for the love of > the music and that "creative energy" that as you mentioned is > so lacking now in the industry. I look forward to hearing more > of these great insights and happy memories from the people who > made my favorite music in the whole world happen. Hey Bobster, Yes,in the long run it certainly did pay off. I love songwriting and figure we got paid well to do something a lot of us would have probably done for nothing if we could afford to live. Most of the writers, artists and producers that I know are prone to 'venting' every once in a while, when we see things in the business that aren't as we would like them to be, having seen much more exciting (creative) times. But it's still a great way to spend your time, so please don't take my one (though there may be more) vent too seriously. Feels good to let fly sometimes. I truly enjoy talking to the people in spectropop. We all seem to teach each other the good things about the records and periods in which they were made. Always the best, Austin R. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:57:54 +0100 From: Austin Powell Subject: P.J.Proby / Peter James There was some discussion recently over whether P.J. Proby ever recorded as Peter James....P.J. is now managed by a guy on the Welsh Coast....I asked him to check out the rumour - he e-mails back to say categorically P.J. Proby never did record as Peter James. Best, Austin P. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:08:10 -0000 From: Alan Ackerman Subject: On Broadway Maybe the sound of that musical era (pre-Beatles) would be rightly termed the Broadway Sound. Let's not forget 1841 Broadway, home of Atlantic Records and Bob Crewe Productions. There were other tunemakers on that street, I'm sure, but my memory is fading. Concerns 1619 Bway, it got its reputation from the many old-line standards music publishers that operated there in the 30s. But, 1650 gets my vote 'cuz Aldon Music was there. That fact alone clinches it. "they say there's always magic in the air" Alan Ackerman -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:09:39 +0100 From: Peter Lerner Subject: You're no good Frank wrote concerning Dee Dee Warwick: > Two years I discovered her original version of You're no Good > to add to my Betty Everett, Swinfging Blue Jeans and Linda Ronstadt > copies. It's brilliant. But please don't forget Barbara West's sublime version on Ronn Records out of Louisiana. Peter -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 23:00:14 +0100 From: Joe Foster Subject: Re: What's It All About . . . Frank Murphy: > Dionne Warwick was upset with Cher's Alfie being the official > version used for the movie soundtrack. That was the official > US release; in the UK we had Cilla Black singing the title tune. > I gather Alfie is being remade. I'm sure there was a sequel some > time ago. I remember it, sadly...it starred, of all unlikely people, Alan Price... and was absolutely dreadful in every way.... as I'm sure the remake will be.... Joe -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:11:04 -0400 From: Joe Nelson Subject: The Epic Splendor Bob Rashkow: > Hot Biscuit Disc Company brought us The Epic Splendor, > which I haven't heard since December 1967... Mainly because they started as a studio act, specifically formed to record "A Little Rain Must Fall". They followed up with a cover of the Smoke's "It Could Be Wonderful" which flopped, and that was the last anyone heard of them. No LP, although it may have been part of the plan as producer John Boylan told me there were stereo mixes of all the single tracks. Joe Nelson -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:07:24 -0400 From: Kevin Kern Subject: Re: Myddle Class playing at Musica Don H. wrote: > Goffin/King-penned Myddle Class track playing at Musica. > I got this song on a rare demo disc. There were no > liner notes, just a list of song titles without artists. > Most of them were Carole King, but I have to assume > this one was the Myddle Class. Listen for yourself. The vocals are surely them, and the organ/guitar instrumentation sounds just like "Lovin' Season" or "Wind Chime Laughter". Don, if you keep digging up new Myddle Class songs, we'll have to ask you to compile a box set for Rhino or something. Thanks for the song, Kevin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 08:16:12 +0000 From: Frank Murphy Subject: Alfie Rob: > Cilla Black's version (I'm told) is used in the U.K. > version of the movie, Cher's for U.S. Don't know if > there's two different DVD's of "Alfie" or not, but > Cher's version is on the DVD here in the U.S. If any UK S'popper has the DVD of Alfie they may care to confirm that it is the Cher version of the title song that appears on the disc. I gather Cilla's version was not on the UK DVD reissue. Even on BBC TV the versions of films such as Alfie tend to be bought in from American distributors and are usually the US releases. FrankM reflections on northern soul Saturday's 2.30pm http://www.radiomagnetic.com or listen to an archive show http://www.radiomagnetic.com/archive/rnb.php -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 08:25:21 -0000 From: Andres Jurak Subject: Ringo records - one more question Mikey: > Has anyone mentioned The Standells "Do The Ringo"?? > They did this song on "The Munsters" (but there is talk over) > and I've tried for 30 years to get a "clean" copy, but I don't > think this ever made it to 45. Yes Mikey, I have this show on DVD. It is Episode # 26 to be exact, called Far Out Munsters, first aired 03/18/65. The Standells did two songs, the second being a cover of "I Want To Hold Your Hand". The first one was a song called, depending on various sources, "Come On And Ringo" or "Do The Ringo" or "Let's Do the Ringo" or "Everybody Do the Ringo". A catchy, typical mid 60's pop effort obviously designed to cash in on rampant Beatlemania. It seems that the full recording of the song is nowhere to be found. The discographies out there indicate nothing that sounds close (although there's a 1964 single on Liberty called "Peppermint Beatles", but I'd bet that isn't it). So maybe the Standells have done it just for the show, or was it a canned track sitting in Liberty, MGM or Vee Jay's vault? There was a Standells rarities disc out a few years ago, with no mention of "Do The Ringo". Was it a throwaway? Was it even copyrighted????!!!! Questions, questions... But there are so many people on the planet, somebody might know... Andres Jurak -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 03:55:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Lex Cody Subject: Re: Brill Building Al Kooper: > Shoulda been called the "1650 Sound," for true accuracy. Woodstock happened in Bethel....... 60 miles west of the Catskill Hamlet of Woodstock, from which, despite turning the promoters down, the festival gets its name. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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