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Spectropop - Digest Number 1543



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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. New @ S'pop
           From: S'pop Team 
      2. Carole King's "Boomerang"
           From: Don 
      3. The Everlys' "Lord Of The Manor"
           From: Den 
      4. Mel Gadson
           From: vanmeterannie 
      5. Doris Day´s voice and Mick Patricks´ bed.
           From: Julio Niño 
      6. The Everlys' "Lord Of The Manor"
           From: Austin Roberts 
      7. Lulu's "Oh Me, Oh My"
           From: Frank Murphy 
      8. Fluffy Buffy 'nuffy
           From: John J. Browne, Sr. 
      9. Music Choice oldies?
           From: Doug Ohlemeier 
     10. Carole King's "Go Away Little Girl" demo to Musica
           From: Bob Celli 
     11. Re: Everlys "Lord Of The Manor"
           From: Robert 
     12. Re: Melanie
           From: ACJ 
     13. Re: "Oh No, Not My Baby" -  Carole King demo around?
           From: Tony Leong 
     14. For "That" Alan Gordon
           From: Jeff Lemlich 
     15. Melanie; Al's sweet "Lord"
           From: Country Paul 
     16. Re: Dore Alpert
           From: Gary Myers 
     17. Barney Kessel song??
           From: superoldies 
     18. Re: Lulu's "Oh Me, Oh My"
           From: Gary Myers 
     19. Robin McNamara - Audio Interview Coming Soon!
           From: Laura Pinto 
     20. Re: The Everlys' "Lord Of The Manor"
           From: JJ 
     21. Raga Rock
           From: Patrick Rands 
     22. The Gurus' "They All Got Carried Away"
           From: (That) Alan Gordon 
     23. Re: "Oh No, Not My Baby" -  Carole King demo around?
           From: Don 
     24. Re: Moulty Heroic redux
           From: Mike McKay 
     25. Re: The Everlys' "Lord Of The Manor"
           From: Robert 


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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 00:57:29 +0100 From: S'pop Team Subject: New @ S'pop Dear Members, Don't forget, recent feature articles available at S'pop include: The Story Of Peter Antell, John Linde & The Percells by John Clemente: http://www.spectropop.com/percells/index.htm Boy Trouble: Garpax Girls CD Review by Mick Patrick: http://www.spectropop.com/recommends/index2004.htm#BoyTrouble Barney Kessel Tribute by Harvey Kubernik: http://www.spectropop.com/remembers/BKobit.htm The View From The Front Porch by Country Paul Payton: http://www.spectropop.com/FrontPorch/index.htm The Daughters Of Eve: The Story Of An All-Girl Band by Debi Pomeroy and Mick Patrick: http://www.spectropop.com/DaughtersOfEve/index.htm Barbara Ruskin: An Illustrated UK Discography by Mick Patrick: http://www.spectropop.com/BarbaraRuskin/index.htm Locate each article at their individual URLs or via the new S'pop home page: http://www.spectropop.com/ Enjoy! The S'pop Team -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:03:59 -0000 From: Don Subject: Carole King's "Boomerang" Alan Warner wrote: > Re: Boomerang, I think you're talking about two different songs. > Carole King wrote a song called BOOMERANG but so did Jack Keller > in collaboration with another writer from the early Nevins-Kirshner > days, Larry Kolber, who co-authored I LOVE HOW YOU LOVE ME with > Barry Mann. I don't believe I'm wrong here. There was a much later song Carole wrote and sang called "(Love Is Like A) Boomerang)". The one I'm referring to is on the Bril-tone bootleg CD. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:10:20 -0400 From: Den Subject: The Everlys' "Lord Of The Manor" previously: > Anybody else out there mesmerized by the single Lord Of The Manor > by the EB's ??? Al Kooper: > What an amazing record/song. Warner Brothers early 70's. One of my > fave singles of all time. Do I Stand Alone here? "Lord Of The Manor" is one of my favorite of (many) great Everlys Warners-era singles. I remember buying it as a current record in 1968 in those glorious bargain bins in Village Oldies (boy, do I miss those bins - for 25 cents apiece or 5 for a dollar, my collection grew by leaps and bounds - may have even bought Cannon's "Old Rag Man" there as well). "Lord Of The Manor" was actually the B-side, far superior to "Milk Train", the A-side, and was a staple on Bob Lewis' radio show on WABC- FM all that summer. It was much more than just the Everlys' attempt to make a mark in the "hip" progressive rock scene - a very powerful statement song, punctuated by that drop-dead cold ending (left off the version on the "Heartaches and Harmonies" box set). I met the Everlys backstage at a concert in '95, and meant to ask them about the song, but never did. Sigh.... Den -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:19:23 -0000 From: vanmeterannie Subject: Mel Gadson I have a very beat-up 45 on Big Top by Mel Gadson of "Comin' Down With Love" backed with a great 12/8 version of "I'm Gettin' Sentimental Over You". The label also credits Stan Applebaum for the arrangements. I've done a quick search on the web to find out that the record seems to have charted here and there in 1960, but that's about all I can find out about it. Anybody know anything about Mr. Gadson? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:33:25 -0000 From: Julio Niño Subject: Doris Day´s voice and Mick Patricks´ bed. Hola Everybody. Today it's murderously hot here in Madrid, I feel like if I have my brain roasted (that's not pleasant). Mick Patrick wrote yesterday: > Talking of "Love Her", I'd like to speak up for the female > version, "Love Him" by Doris Day - it's absolutely deeeee-lish!... I've always liked Doris singing, she sounds to me like a mammy (a little incestuous) cooing me to sleep. I have the same relaxing feeling with Bing Crosby's voice, he often sounds to me like a very loving daddy. I sure will search for the Doris CD you have recommended. By the way, Mick, you must have a very broad bed (to take Herb, Tony, Doris and Freddie in, or maybe you receive them by turns?). Chao. Julio Niño. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:39:22 EDT From: Austin Roberts Subject: The Everlys' "Lord Of The Manor" Previously: > Anybody else out there mesmerized by the single Lord Of The Manor > by the EB's ??? Al Kooper: > What an amazing record/song. Warner Brothers early 70's. One of my > fave singles of all time. Do I Stand Alone here? I loved Lord Of The Manor and was hoping they would stay in that direction. Who produced that album? Was it Wes Farrell? Best, Austin Roberts -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 18:56:48 +0000 From: Frank Murphy Subject: Lulu's "Oh Me, Oh My" Gary Myers: > I love the Lulu record, and I think the song was actually first > cut by the great Walter Jackson, titled "Fool For You", or > something like that. The song was written by fellow Glaswegian Jim Doris, guitarist with The Stoics (who featured Frankie Miller on vocals). Lulu recorded it for New Routes which was issued in 1970. Walter Jackson released a disc on U. S. A. 104 - The Walls That Seperate / A Fool For You in 1971. The B side may be a Ray Charles cover? FrankM reflections on northern soul Saturday's two thirty pm: http://www.radiomagnetic.com or listen to an archive show: http://www.radiomagnetic.com/archive/rnb.php -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:46:51 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: John J. Browne, Sr. Subject: Fluffy Buffy 'nuffy Bill George: > Can anybody help me locate an obscure early-80s girl group song > called "Buffy Come Back" by Angel and the Reruns? I've been > looking for it for twenty years and no luck. Thanks! Mark Hill: > Is that the one they used to play on "Dr. Demento"? Lead singer > sounds like fingernails on a chalkboard. "Come back Buffy. Where > are you?, where are you?, WHERE ARE YOU?" It was on the 2nd > Demento LP (Brown cover) ("Dr. Demento's Delights"?) I have it > somewhere in the archives here if you're interested. Mark, the song you're describing sounds like FLUFFY, by Gloria Balsam, about a dog found in the rain: http://www.chocstar.freeserve.co.uk/gloria_balsam.htm. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Admin Note: This thread is now declared closed. No further replies will be posted. Thanking you. S'pop -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 20:23:08 -0000 From: Doug Ohlemeier Subject: Music Choice oldies? Does anyone here listen to Music Choice oldies? The Solid Gold channel on cable TV and satellite? It plays a heavy does of early rock, pop and soul. It seems to concentrate on pre-1966. For every 1964-67 song I hear, it plays 2-5 from late 50s - early 60s, oftentimes playing 2 tunes from the same year back-to-back. What a concept! Playing two 1961 tunes together! I've also heard doo-wop there and Bernadette Carroll's PARTY GIRL. They are heavy into Gene Pitney, Little Richard, Fats Domino, Buddy Holly, the girl groups, etc. I've run an audio cable from my stereo to a laptop to capture much of this music in digital form. Trouble is, some of the selections, like the Ronettes and other girl groups, are in MONO. Then there's a lot of country-crossover songs, like White Sportcoast & Pink Carnation and Wolverton Mtn. But how often do you hear Leroy Van Dyke's WALK ON BY (1961) or Frank Iffields' I REMEMBER YOU on commercial radio? My local station, Oldies 95, KCMO, used to play the latter. Still, Music Choice is a much better choice and a greater variety than commercial FM "oldies" stations. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 20:15:32 -0000 From: Bob Celli Subject: Carole King's "Go Away Little Girl" demo to Musica I've just posted the demo of "Go Away Little Girl" done by Carole King for Bobby Vee to musica. It is a beauty! Love those tom toms rolling along in the background along with a great sounding piano. I had a discussion with both Bobby and Snuff Garrett about the circumstances surrounding them losing this song. Snuff and Bobby both told me that they felt they did not capture the song and wanted to redo it. Bob told me that before they had a chance to go back in and do some more work on the song, they heard it playing on the radio! Snuff did tell me he was really pissed at Donny Kirshner for giving the song away before he had a chance to finish it, and I also remember him telling me that he would never use any material from Aldon Music from that day on. I'm not sure if he ever followed through with that! Bob Celli -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 01:24:36 -0000 From: Robert Subject: Re: Everlys "Lord Of The Manor" previously: > Anybody else out there mesmerized by the single Lord Of The Manor > by the EB's ??? Al Kooper: > What an amazing record/song. Warner Brothers early 70's. One of my > fave singles of all time. Do I Stand Alone here? This one as well as the amazing Sing Me Back Home, and their extremely moving, atmospheric remake of I Wonder If I Care As Much. Oh and Empty Boxes.........I could go on and on........and you can't even get their original mid & late 60's albums on CD (except Roots)! This needs to be corrected RHINO. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 23:39:06 -0400 From: ACJ Subject: Re: Melanie For Tony Gerber: Thanks for the info! I always liked Melanie's music, and found it sad that people just seemed to turn against her after "Brand New Key" became a smash. Glad to see she's still within earshot. ACJ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 04:17:17 -0000 From: Tony Leong Subject: Re: "Oh No, Not My Baby" - Carole King demo around? Charles wrote: > With the recent postings of Carole King demos from her Aldon/Screen > Gems days, how about one for "Oh No, Not My Baby"? Like Dave, I've > always loved the Maxine Brown hit version (supposedly that's Carole > on the piano, and that intro with piano & guitar is one of the best > ever!), and I wonder how Carole first recorded the demo vocals. > So, is anyone out there able to send a copy of the demo (if it > exists) to musica? Pretty please........ I don't know of the existence of a Carole King demo for "Oh No Not My Baby" (who knows, maybe even Eva or the Cookies did one???), but the first recorded version of the song that I know of is by the Shirelles. Doris sang most of the lead, and Shirley did a few solo lines, and the vocals were real raw!!! Sounds like Doris and Shirley were trying to outsing each other. The same instrumental track was used for Maxine's version . The only other version I know of the song is by Dusty Springfield (and I understand she did 2 versions), and a later one by Aretha. I have never heard the versions of "Oh No Not My Baby" by Manfred Mann or Fontella Bass, although I would like to!!!!! Tony -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 00:20:24 -0400 From: Jeff Lemlich Subject: For "That" Alan Gordon Hi Alan, A question has come up about the Gurus' version of "They All Got Carried Away". We know you and Garry were on the Parrots' recording. Someone on another music board is wondering if that's you on The Gurus' version as well. Since I haven't heard the Gurus' recording, I am not able to compare the two. Thanks, Jeff -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 00:52:23 -0400 From: Country Paul Subject: Melanie; Al's sweet "Lord" Tony Gerber > I just wanted to let any Melanie fans know about her newest > album of all new material entitled, "Paled by Dimmer Light".... > More about this album can be found at: > http://spaceformusic.com/melanie > Melanie's Official Website is: > http://melaniemusic.net/ Tony, your comment about her voice being better than ever is true IMO. There are two free downloads at her official website that are rather nice. She's still one heck of an intense artist, that's for certain. Thanks for pointing us in this direction. previously: > Anybody else out there mesmerized by the single Lord Of The Manor > by the EB's ??? Al Kooper: > What an amazing record/song. Warner Brothers early 70's. One of my > fave singles of all time. Do I Stand Alone here? You do not. Perhaps not my fave, but excellent. Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 22:17:48 -0700 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: Dore Alpert Country Paul: > I've just played "Dina" by Dore Alpert (A&M 714, 1963) to musica. That certainly qualifies for the odd chord progression category. :-) gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 06:37:17 -0000 From: superoldies Subject: Barney Kessel song?? Re "TV Commercials" featured recently @ musica: Barney Kessel was listed as the artist, but who were the vocalists? Thank you. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:36:08 -0700 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: Lulu's "Oh Me, Oh My" Previously: > I love the Lulu record, and I think the song was actually first > cut by the great Walter Jackson, titled "Fool For You", or > something like that. Me: > The song was written by fellow Glaswegian Jim Doris, guitarist with > The Stoics (who featured Frankie Miller on vocals). Lulu recorded it > for New Routes which was issued in 1970. Frank M: > Walter Jackson released a disc on U. S. A. 104 - The Walls That > Seperate / A Fool For You in 1971. The B side may be a Ray Charles > cover? Not sure which you're calling the B-side, but "A Fool For You" is definitely the same song Lulu did as "Oh Me Oh My," as I had (maybe still have) the record. My mistake on the date, however. I was assuming it must have been before Lulu's. gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:04:10 -0000 From: Laura Pinto Subject: Robin McNamara - Audio Interview Coming Soon! Hi S'poppers, A big THANK-YOU to those of you who checked out the Robin McNamara interview on my site, Oldies Connection, and took the time to write to me and share your thoughts about it. My friend Bette from Track One Audio has conducted a phone interview with Robin, and it will be going up on her site for everyone to listen to within the next couple of weeks. Audio interviews currently available on Track One Audio are Andy Kim, George Galfo's Mystics, D.K. Davis, and Freddie Scott. I will let everyone here know when Robin's interview is online. Meantime, if you want to check out any of the other audio interviews, go to http://www.trackoneaudio.com . To revisit "Got to Believe in Love: The Robin McNamara Interview" on Oldies Connection, just click on http://snipurl.com/oldies and scroll down the homepage for the link. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:29:52 -0000 From: JJ Subject: Re: The Everlys' "Lord Of The Manor" Previously: > Anybody else out there mesmerized by the single Lord Of The Manor > by the EB's ??? Al Kooper: > What an amazing record/song. Warner Brothers early 70's. One of my > fave singles of all time. Do I Stand Alone here? Austin Roberts: > I loved Lord Of The Manor and was hoping they would stay in that > direction. Who produced that album? Was it Wes Farrell? Any idea if "Lord of the Manor" is available on cd? Thanx in advance! JJ/Sweeden -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:47:10 -0000 From: Patrick Rands Subject: Raga Rock I've been coming across songs lately which would fit the description of Raga Rock or Sitar Rock - songs which have pretty much one chord, sometimes use sitars, have repetitive beats and chanted vocals and often drone on for a few minutes. I'm more willing to call it Raga Rock because I don't want to limit it to only songs with sitars. There's the song Nicole on The Minx soundtrack by The Cyrkle, and a handful of songs on Rhino Handmade's Hallucinations. I'd love to get together a list of Raga Rock songs, anyone interested in this idea? What is the history behind this type of song? Did it start with The Beatles and The Byrds or were there underground artists doing it first (maybe on ESP?). And how far did the trend extend? The Cyrkle's Nicole seems to show a fairly square band branching out, were there other artists and singers (perhaps in jazz or Spectropop mode?) who performed raga rock songs which were out of character? I also wonder if some of the songs without the sitars are still influenced by Indian music, or is there any other influence which could've occurred (like minimalism?). I wonder if there was a point where the repetitive one chord songs no longer have that psychedelic vibe influenced from the raga, and instead become mindnumbing punkers - or was that not done before punk and alternative rock? :Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 09:57:13 -0700 From: (That) Alan Gordon Subject: The Gurus' "They All Got Carried Away" Jeff Lemlich, regarding "They All Got Carried Away"; yes, Garry and I were singing backround on the Gurus record. Sundazed recently released a Gurus cd. That's what I love about S`pop, nothing stays hidden for too long. Best, That Alan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:15:12 -0000 From: Don Subject: Re: "Oh No, Not My Baby" - Carole King demo around? Charles wrote: > With the recent postings of Carole King demos from her Aldon/Screen > Gems days, how about one for "Oh No, Not My Baby"? Like Dave, I've > always loved the Maxine Brown hit version (supposedly that's Carole > on the piano, and that intro with piano & guitar is one of the best > ever!), and I wonder how Carole first recorded the demo vocals. So, > is anyone out there able to send a copy of the demo (if it exists) > to musica? Pretty please........ Tony Leong: > I don't know of the existence of a Carole King demo for "Oh No Not > My Baby" (who knows, maybe even Eva or the Cookies did one???), but > the first recorded version of the song that I know of is by the > Shirelles. Doris sang most of the lead, and Shirley did a few solo > lines, and the vocals were real raw!!! Sounds like Doris and Shirley > were trying to outsing each other. The same instrumental track was > used for Maxine's version . The only other version I know of the > song is by Dusty Springfield (and I understand she did 2 versions), > and a later one by Aretha. I have never heard the versions of "Oh No > Not My Baby" by Manfred Mann or Fontella Bass, although I would like > to!!!!!! You are right that the Shirelles recorded the original, but it was rejected. Stan Greenberg (son of Florence) found it and used the Shirelles track and added Maxine Brown (and Dee Dee Warwick too, I believe). The song has been recorded by: Fontella Bass Gary Bass Debbie Boone Maxine Brown Canoise Cher Merry Clayton De Blanc Denise Elites Aretha Franklin Tommy Hunt? Carole King Manfred Mann Freddie McGregor Odyssey Partridge Family Linda Ronstadt Shirelles Dusty Springfield Rod Stewart Martha Velez Kim Weston Yo La Tengo I've also seen the following names associated with this title, but I'm not sure if it is the G/K song: Julie Budd Taffy McElroy Vivian Copeland -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:25:48 EDT From: Mike McKay Subject: Re: Moulty Heroic redux I'm sorry that I've only just now stumbled upon this information in the dark recesses of my hard drive. This isn't exactly a contemporary report, but for those who lately were wondering whatever became of The Barbarians' drummer Moulty Moultin, I found two articles from 1996 stating that he had launched a new version of The Barbarians that contained his two sons, then ages 19 and 20. They were slated to play the Wonderland Ballroom in Revere on May 18, 1996. One article states that Moulty "now lives in Abington [MA] and runs a cleaning business on the side (Moulton Cleaning Co.)." Interestingly, the second one says "the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland recently asked him for two of his distinctively notched drumsticks to add to its collection." I wonder if this ever came to pass? Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:59:44 -0000 From: Robert Subject: Re: The Everlys' "Lord Of The Manor" JJ asked: > Any idea if "Lord of the Manor" is available on cd? Yes, LORD OF THE MANOR is on the 2CD compilation, Walk Right Back: The Everly Brothers on Warner Brothers 1960-1969. Rob -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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