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Spectropop - Digest Number 1514



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There are 20 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Favorite obscure Pitney track??
           From: Austin Roberts 
      2. Re: Favorite obscure Pitney track??
           From: Norm D. Plume 
      3. Re: Favorite obscure Pitney track / The girls on Hawaii
           From: Tom 
      4. Gene Pitney's Favourites
           From: Norm D. Plume 
      5. Re: Gene Pitney
           From: Denis Gagnon 
      6. Re: Gene Pitney on CD
           From: Al Quaglieri 
      7. Re: Favorite obscure Pitney track??
           From: Peter Lerner 
      8. Re: Gene Pitney's producers
           From: Al Kooper 
      9. Re: Favorite obscure Pitney track??
           From: Austin Roberts 
     10. Re: Favorite obscure Pitney track??
           From: ACJ 
     11. Re: Favorite obscure Pitney track??
           From: S.J. Dibai 
     12. Re: Favorite obscure Pitney track??
           From: James Holvay 
     13. Re: Gene Pitney
           From: Gary Myers 
     14. Re: Favorite obscure Pitney track??
           From: Bill Craig 
     15. Shangri-las footage...
           From: Sean 
     16. Re: The Girls From Bahia (Americanized Bossa Nova)
           From: James Botticelli 
     17. Re: Pat Boone's label
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     18. Stranded In The Jungle
           From: Guy Lawrence 
     19. S'pop London Event Pix
           From: S'pop Team 
     20. The Rev-lons
           From: Mick Patrick 


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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 18:28:49 EDT From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: Favorite obscure Pitney track?? Previously: > Pitney had some 11 top twenty hits there in the sixties: 24 hours from > Tulsa, That girl belongs to yesterday, I'm gonna be strong, I must be > seeing things, Lookin' through the eyes of love, Princess in rags, > Backstage, Nobody needs yoour love, Just one smile, Something's gotten > hold of my heart, Somewhere in the country. Johnny Cymbal and George Tobin originally wrote Somewhere In The Country for Roy Orbison. Great song. Clark Besch: > Say, speaking of Gene, anyone (Al?) remember Gene's tour of stars he > did like the Dick Clark tours in mid-60's?? I saw it in Va. Beach. Terrific! Austin Roberts -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 16:56:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Norm D. Plume Subject: Re: Favorite obscure Pitney track?? Does "Last Chance To Turn Around" count as an obscurity? I only ever heard it once, and I forever wondered why G P was singing about "Last Exit To Brooklyn", and what the connection was with Hubert Selby Jnr's great and notorious book. I now know it's to do with (New York?) traffic signs, but this kinda knowledge is never automatic when you live in Sarf London. Great song though; anyone know where it can be sourced? Norm D. Plume -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 00:57:46 -0000 From: Tom Subject: Re: Favorite obscure Pitney track / The girls on Hawaii I've enjoyed the recent spate of posts regarding Gene Pitney, one of my favourite singers of all time. It would be really hard for me just to pick one or two obscure Pitney songs as my favourites as there are just so many great ones. I bought most of the twofer Sequel Pitney collection, and have played the CDs often. He went through a lot of different styles, and mastered them all in my opinion. A lot of my favourites have been mentioned already (eg. The Boss's Daughter, The Angels Got Together, Rising Tide of Love, 24 Sycamore), but one that I have not seen talked about is "Blue Angel". The melody and lyrics of this song really move me. It was a (barely) top 40 hit for Pitney in the UK around 1974, but I don't think it was even released in the US. The other thing I wanted to comment on was a post I saw calling the background girl singers on "Hawaii" lame and white. I've seen the white girl singer sound take a lot of hits on this group. I noted another person called them "whiny". That always makes me sad to hear people say this, because I happen to adore the sound. I've mentioned before that I can't get enough of the cutesy white sound of the early '60's, and to me it isn't lame, but angelic to my ears. I guess I'm in the minority but I had to say something to defend the music and a sound I truly love. To me, when I hear those girls start singing on Hawaii, I find it as refreshing as a Hawaiian breeze. Although I think Pitney is incredible, I fell in love with that track just because of that sound. Just my cup of tea. Tom -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 16:34:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Norm D. Plume Subject: Gene Pitney's Favourites Gene Pitney was a guest on BBC Radio's "Desert Island Discs" a year or so ago. DID is a long-running national institution: weekly guests talk about their life and choose 8 records they'd take with them to a desert island. Check this link for Gene Pitney's choices (and his book and "luxury"): http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/factual/desertislanddiscs_20030302.shtml Norm D. Plume -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 22:19:29 -0400 From: Denis Gagnon Subject: Re: Gene Pitney Clark Besch: > Say, speaking of Gene, anyone (Al?) remember Gene's tour of stars he > did like the Dick Clark tours in mid-60's?? I saw Gene in Montreal in 1966 (Backstage was his big hit of the moment, at that time) with a bunch of other artists. I'm not certain if it was the Dick Clark's Caravan of stars but Del Shannon, Chad & Jeremy and many other acts were part of that show. I remember seeing Herman's Hermits and the Zombies around that time but I can't swear it was on that specific show. Denis -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 00:19:43 -0400 From: Al Quaglieri Subject: Re: Gene Pitney on CD I was jazzed when I saw Sequel was going to release the "Ultimate Collection," but was kinda disappointed when I got it. Uneven sound quality, mono where stereo exists, etc. Pitney deserves better. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 15:28:31 +0100 From: Peter Lerner Subject: Re: Favorite obscure Pitney track?? Ken Silverwood commented: > Can't help noticing his US and UK chart successes differed, with > "She's A Heartbreaker" and "Last Chance To Turn Around" going top > twenty Stateside but not doing much here, being prime examples." "Last chance to turn around" is certainly my favourite obscurity of Gene's from my vantage point in the UK. It was tucked away on the B- side of the UK hit "Looking thru the eyes of love" but had massive airplay at the time on Radio Caroline. And that hook line "Last exit to Brooklyn" - must have been at least a nod towards the major contemporary novel of that title? Does anyone know? Peter -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 06:55:08 EDT From: Al Kooper Subject: Re: Gene Pitney's producers Jens Koch: > Who were Pitney's producers -- apart from Spector, Pitney and Wylie? > I know that's a big question that could end with multiple answers, but > who were the main ones? Mostly Aaron Schroeder in the first batch of hits. Smart Aaron was also a) his manager b) his publisher c) his record company founder But I dont recall him ever being referred to as Colonel Aaron Schroeder although he is probably eligible for Corporal punishment for some of that contract wording I'm guessing. Buck Private Al Kooper -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 15:05:41 EDT From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: Favorite obscure Pitney track?? Country Paul: > And then there's Austin Robert's pick, "If I Didn't Have A Dime > (To Play the Jukebox)," Mike Edwards' choices "Dream For Sale" > and "If I Didn't Have A Dime" - and there are so many more! One > easily forgets - but shouldn't - the depth of Pitney's catalog. If I Didn't Have A Dime must be Austin Powers' pick. I have two favorite Pitney songs (a tie): Love My Life Away and I'm Gonna Be Strong. I like nearly everything he did though. Austin Roberts -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 17:22:30 -0400 From: ACJ Subject: Re: Favorite obscure Pitney track?? For Nick Archer: I don't think Gene Pitney ever recorded "I Knew You When," but he played an unwitting role in the success of the man who did, Billy Joe Royal. Joe South hired Billy to sing on the demo of a song he (Joe) had written for Gene, called "Down In the Boondocks." Gene turned the song down, but Joe used that demo to get Billy a recording contract with Columbia, and the rest is history. ACJ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 20:12:11 -0000 From: S.J. Dibai Subject: Re: Favorite obscure Pitney track?? John Love: > One of his all time greats for me is Randy Newman's "Just One Smile" > which from memory hit big in the UK but not in the States. Apparently, it was a top ten hit in Chicago. In fact, I used to know someone from Chicago who didn't remember a lot of songs from that era by title, but she sure remembered "Just One Smile." I never quite got the appeal of that record. It's a dramatic production, alright, but it has a typically overwrought, showtune- ish Randy Newman melody, and Gene pours on the pathos a little too thick for my tastes. That it was apparently released as a single over a year and a half after coming out as an album track says that the label must not have thought much of it, either. Not that I would trust Musicor's tastes too much. Holding "Nobody Needs Your Love" on an LP while it busted the charts in the UK? Releasing singles like "Tremblin'" and "Animal Crackers" while letting "Losing Control" and "Rising Tide Of Love" go to waste? Strange, indeed. S.J. Dibai -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 08:44:56 -0700 From: James Holvay Subject: Re: Favorite obscure Pitney track?? Nick Archer: > It struck me last night that Gene Pitney would probably do a great > job of singing "I Knew You When". Did this ever happen? I agree. Many years ago, my group worked opposite Billy Joe Royal. He did a great version of "Oh Girl" by The Chi Lites, in his show. The brotha definitely had some "chops". -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 09:49:24 -0700 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: Gene Pitney Dave O'Gara: > Did anyone think the first time you heard "Black is Black" by Los > Bravos that it was Gene singing lead? Yes. I also thought "Down In The Boondocks" might be Pitney when I first heard it. gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 21:50:38 -0000 From: Bill Craig Subject: Re: Favorite obscure Pitney track?? I don't know if this has been covered already or not, but is it not true that the original copies of "Last Chance To Turn Around"' had the title: "Last Exit To Brooklyn", but had to be changed after the author of the novel by that name threatened to sue, or something along those lines? This may be Pitney 101 to Geneophiles but I'm not sure if I am remembering correctly from back in the day. Also, great song by any name. Bill Craig -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 18:07:22 -0000 From: Sean Subject: Shangri-las footage... I really need footage of the Shangs. All I have of them is them singing Great Big Kiss on Shindig but its not even the whole song. I am a very big fan and I would appreciate if someone would help me out. I am looking for... shindig-oct 23, 1965 right now and not later, great big kiss, thirty days, and twist and shout shindig-april 1965 out in the streets and great big kiss shivaree-??oct 1965?? right now and not later and great big kiss hullbaloo-feb 9, 1965 great big kiss jan 10, 1966 long live our love Also I am interested in seeing any clips of the post-Margie era (1966- 1967). -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 14:28:55 -0400 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: The Girls From Bahia (Americanized Bossa Nova) Patrick Rands asked: > Were there any other Americanized Bossa Nova acts from the mid-60s > who aren't remembered today? Paul Levinson: > Eydie Gorme? No. I guess she's still remembered ... (Sorry, couldn't > resist. Great record, though.) And she is from Latin America anyway, quite possibly Brazil...But Trio Janeiro which was just reissued by Rev-O-La & Bossa Rio. Additionally June Christy did a 45 for Capitol called "Bossa Nova", one could argue Burt Bacharach was strongly influenced by bossa and gave back as good as he got....Also see the rich bossa nova tunes emanating forth from Japan (big Japanese population in Brazil), and Italy. Some argue against its 'purity' but bust out with your best iconoclastic techniques for them I say. Don't forget Les Masques (France), The Gimmicks (Sweden), Wanda de Sah Brazilian on Capitol, Novi (Poland), and native Brazilian organist Walter Wanderley's record on Tower (!). More but can't think right now. Or ever for that matter~... JB -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 16:15:37 +0000 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: Pat Boone's label Country Paul wrote: > Pat Boone? With Little Richard? Great cooga-mooga! What's the > label called? His first signings are Little Richard and Fats Domino. The label's called I Owe My Career To You Records. Just a joke, Boone fans! --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 22:24:33 +0100 From: Guy Lawrence Subject: Stranded In The Jungle On purchasing Shout's new Vibrations CD, "Out Of Sight!! The Checker Years" (www.cherryred.co.uk), it occurred to me that I now own five versions of "Stranded In The Jungle" - The Cadets, the Jayhawks, Jett Powers (aka P.J. Proby), the New York Dolls and now the Vibrations. I'm guessing there must be more. I know Alan Warner is on the group - his essential book, "Who Sang What In Rock'n'Roll", is never far from my side but "Stranded..." isn't in it. Has anybody got any more to add? Guy http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TweedleeDumsDrive-In/ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 15:28:06 +0100 From: S'pop Team Subject: S'pop London Event Pix Pictures from the last S'pop live event, held in London in March, are now available for viewing on the Actionettes' website: http://www.actionettes.com/photos/SpectroMarch04/SpectroMarch04.html The ladies hold regular club nights of their own. The next, featuring performances by guest vocalists Elisabeth and Emma, is on Saturday June 19th. For details: http://www.actionettes.com/sophisticated.html The S'pop Team -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 15:45:50 +0100 From: Mick Patrick Subject: The Rev-lons Some time ago Patrick Rands asked: > ...if anyone has any information about the Rev-Lons, I'd > love to know... The Rev-lons have six tracks included on the very fab looking new CD "Boy Trouble: Garpax Girls". I don't have a copy yet, so if you check out the press release you'll know as much as I do: http://www.acerecords.co.uk/gotrt/may04/cdchd1005.html In the meantime, a few words on the Rev-lons from CD compiler Alec Palao: > The tracks on "Boy Trouble" were all recorded between 1963-1967 > and leased to various labels or issued on Paxton-run imprints > like Garpax and Star-Burst. However the bulk of this thoroughly > enjoyable anthology is presented here for the first time, from > recently excavated master tapes. Highlights include Bakersfield > trio the Rev-Lons and their well-known title track Boy Trouble, > plus other single cuts and some splendid unissued material; the > precocious Beverly Williams, who turns in some fabulous Spector- > esque sides; au go go swingers like Diana Dawn and Mary Saenz; > and even Paxton's then-wife Jan, whose smoky tones beg the > question as to why the producer didn't try to make her a star. Hey la, Mick Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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