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Spectropop - Digest Number 1511

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There are 17 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: The Girls From Bahia (Americanized Bossa Nova)
           From: Paul Levinson 
      2. 5 Emprees
           From: Clark Besch 
      3. Re: a visit to the Hall of Fame
           From: Phil X Milstein 
      4. Re: favorite obscure Pitney track
           From: Bob Rashkow 
      5. Re: Buzz Cason book
           From: Austin Roberts 
      6. Is it a boy, or is it a girl?
           From: Brent 
      7. Chubby Chequered / David Bowie "Learns To Love"
           From: Phil X Milstein 
      8. Re: favorite obscure Pitney track
           From: Julio Niño 
      9. Re: favorite obscure Pitney track
           From: Ken Silverwood 
     10. Re: a little bit Marty Cooper, a little bit Jimmy Osmond
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     11. Re: Mike Smith update
           From: Karen Andrew 
     12. Re: NYC record shops
           From: Scott Sookman 
     13. Re: a visit to the Hall of Fame
           From: Bob Rashkow 
     14. Re: favorite obscure Pitney track
           From: Gary Myers 
     15. Sir Ben, Bri' and The Beatles
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     16. Re: favorite obscure Pitney track
           From: Richard Williams 
     17. Re: favorite obscure Pitney track / Relic
           From: Wes Smith 

Message: 1 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 03:30:14 -0000 From: Paul Levinson Subject: Re: The Girls From Bahia (Americanized Bossa Nova) Patrick Rands asked: > Were there any other Americanized Bossa Nova acts from the mid-60s who > aren't remembered today? Eydie Gorme? No. I guess she's still remembered ... (Sorry, couldn't resist. Great record, though.) Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 16:19:50 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: 5 Emprees I just received the long awaited Arf!Arf! CD of the 5 Emprees best. Erik Lindgren has done an excellent job of compiling all those obscure 45s from several labels and putting together a wonderful CD of 25 tracks with (for the most part) great sound. "Little Miss Sad" is their lone charter, but a great slice of '65 pop rock. The first 11 tracks are as presented on their lone LP. For the most part these are the lame tracks of the CD. Mediocre covers ("Running Bear"?) abound, but their cover of "Hey Baby" stands out as a Hollies-sounding rocker that became the follow-up to their hit, and also charted on WLS Chicago. As the liner notes state, it is a true feather in the group's hat that all those great Chi groups followed in the 5 Emprees' footsteps. "Mama Didn't Know" is another decent song from the LP. The singles that comprise the remaining tracks are pretty good, for the most part. "Little Miss Happiness" is really good, despite its obvious ripoff attempt of their hit. Despite a few flat notes from the lead singer, "Pretty Face" is a Left Banke-sounding ballad in many ways -- need I say more? "Would You Believe" sounds like a Boyce & Hart vocal and song. Both of these were before the artists I compared them to had their similar sounding hits, too. "Gone From My Mind" is that classic Fortunes song. The sparser Emprees version is more Hollies-sounding, and a pretty originally good effort on Smash. Funny that they released "Hey Diddle Diddle" and "Shake" on 45s around '68, since Mason City, Iowa's very popular area group, the Pete Klint Quintet, also released these songs as 45s. Wonder if one got the songs by hearing the others'? The final three tracks are VERY interesting and I'd never heard them. A 1968 re-recording of "Little Miss Sad", with a new vocalist this time. I think the singing is better than the original, although it's very true to the original. The surprise here is adding American Breed-styled horn overdubs! Works pretty well, despite the original being better (IMO). Track 24 is "Nobody Cares". The entire CD is worth buying just for THIS track! Just an amazing sunshine-harmony song! It was the B-side of the new "Little Miss Sad" 45, apparently. Shoulda been the A-side! Great harmonies, and a nice horn break! The Cd notes mention that many recordings were made that seem to be lost. One "found" nugget is the final track, "Lurkin'". The acetate that is shown in the booklet is the source for this cool nugget. If you heard the opening and didn't know, you'd swear you were hearing the opening of my beloved Cryan Shames' "Mr. Unreliable". Despite the similarities, the 5 Emprees' song is really good, and has a melody of its own. I have anticipated this CD for over a year, and it did not disappoint! Well worth the money from BTW, it's all mono, but sound is nice. If you like Chicago '60s, ya gotta buy this one! Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 09:52:40 +0000 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: a visit to the Hall of Fame Hal Muskat wrote: > You raise some excellent issues, Mr. Fox! Who determines deservedness, > and who elected them to do so? I believe that is Ahmet. > Does the fact the museum is in Cleveland have anything to do with > anything? Cleveland is to the history of rocknroll as Cooperstown, NY is to the history of baseball. I think it's funny, though, that the industry deems Cleveland to be the ideal place to site their precious museum, yet it's not good enough to host their annual induction ceremonies. They did try having it there once or twice, but promptly reverted it to New York. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 12:54:25 EDT From: Bob Rashkow Subject: Re: favorite obscure Pitney track Isn't that sad? I never even hear "Mecca" anymore! But I think they still recognize "Town Without Pity", although maybe not as much as the other mentioned Pitney smashes. What a repertoire this great singer has, and I'm probably only familiar with15 percent of it! So much listening to do! Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 13:34:05 EDT From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: Buzz Cason book Buzz Cason's very recently released book "Living The Rock And Roll Dream" (Hal Leonard Pub) is already in its second printing. It has some great info on the pop/rock scene from 1957 to the present. Buzz, besides being a dear friend, has been there for many of the hot times and changes as a writer/artist/producer/and publisher. I think you'll be amazed at some of the info -- including, of course, all of the info on The Statues. Austin (book promoter) Roberts -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 22:04:58 -0000 From: Brent Subject: Is it a boy, or is it a girl? Julio Niño on the Bracelets: > Is the main voice a girl or a boy? (it seems that I always have > trouble distinguishing between boys and girls)... Gary Myers: > Hah! That could be a real problem. I'll bet you really had it > tough with Laurie London's "He's Got The Whole World ..." :-) And, no doubt, Robin McNamara's "Lay A Little Lovin' On Me", as well. Great job, Laura Pinto! Great single too, Robin & J. Barry ... Brent -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 16:20:31 +0000 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Chubby Chequered / David Bowie "Learns To Love" Anyone know of Chubby Checker's psychedelic album? According to my information, it was released in at least three versions: under the title "New Revelation" in the U.S.; "Chequered" in England; and "Chubby Checker" in Spain. The Spanish version, on Ariola, apparently includes two more songs than the other two. I'm very eager to get a copy of this thing, in any of its versions. Along similar lines, I wonder if anyone knows of the whereabouts of an obscure David Bowie track titled "Even A Fool Learns To Love." Please contact me off-list if you can help out with either of these items. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 20:34:54 -0000 From: Julio Niño Subject: Re: favorite obscure Pitney track Hola Everybody. Continuing with the flow of obscure Gene Pitney´s tracks, I don't think anybody has mentioned yet one of my favorites: " Dream for Sale", a gorgeous pocket drama. Chao. Julio Niño. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 00:22:56 +0100 From: Ken Silverwood Subject: Re: favorite obscure Pitney track previously: > "There's No Livin' Without Your Lovin'", which is not only one of the > biggest hits Gene never had, but one of the biggest hits the Righteous > Brothers should've had! Hoowee! I've a copy of Manfred Mann doing this same song, with Paul Jones on lead. It's on an album, and I don't think was ever put out as a single. The track Al Kooper named as his F.O.G.P.T., "Take It Like A Man" (funny, that line is in "I'm Gonna Be Strong"!), is on the super "Blue Gene" LP. I always remember the song "She Lets Her Hair Down" for the Sunsilk hair products advert. Can't help noticing his US and UK chart successes differed, with "She's A Heartbreaker" and "Last Chance To Turn Around" going top twenty Stateside but not doing much here, being prime examples. Ken On The West Coast (feeling "Tower Tall") -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 12:22:18 +0000 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: a little bit Marty Cooper, a little bit Jimmy Osmond Martin Roberts wrote: > Country Paul asked about Marty Cooper's musical history: > ... wrote "A Little Bit Country, A Little Bit Rock N Roll" and > plenty more besides! "A Little Country/Rocknroll" -- now THAT'S impressive! When I was in Branson last year, I took great amusement from the fact that that song had become the focal point of the city's #1 controversy. Whereas the older Osmond Bros. (i.e., pre-Donny) had been one of that entertainment mecca's mainstay acts for a long number of years, by the early '90s the scene there had become overexpanded, and began experiencing serious consolidation strains. Many stars who'd previously headlined their own ("own") theaters were now being forced to double up, or suffer some other form of downsizing. The Osmonds, for instance, found themselves working breakfast shows, at an anonymous theater at that. While their star was hurtling earthward, little Jimmy had mosied into town and was now top-naming a highly successful '50s-styled "jukebox" show. Without having gained their permission (I'm not positive that he even asked for it), Jimmy had appropriated Donny & Marie's tagline of "little bit country/little bit rocknroll" as his own (rephrasing it as "I'm a little bit country, I'm a little bit," etc.), causing his near-ostracization from the family. I'd be curious to learn, however, whether the recent death of family matriarch Olive Osmond has led to some sort of reconciliation. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 17:31:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Karen Andrew Subject: Re: Mike Smith update Clark Besch wrote: > Here is some heartening news on DC5 lead singer Mike Smith's latest > condition after his terrible fall at home in Europe. What happened to Mike Smith? I'm sure this was covered recently, but my poor memory is failing me! Thanks, Karen -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 01:25:14 -0000 From: Scott Sookman Subject: Re: NYC record shops Sadly, Midnight Records has vanished after about 20 years. Their website is also gone. Sniff. Although I've lived in L.A. since 1989, I shopped at Midnight six or seven times over the years, and always found it to be the epitome of a big city record store: a tiny shop in an ancient building, crammed full of the coolest, most obscure, specialist items imagineable. One of my faves. R.I.P. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 12:43:30 EDT From: Bob Rashkow Subject: Re: a visit to the Hall of Fame John Fox: > ...the guy answered, "Is she (referring to Jackie Wilson) an inductee?" Of course they must have mixed him up with Jackie DeShannon. :--) Welcome to the 21st Century. It's also not too difficult to figure out why "Celebrate" gets more airplay on oldies and "classic rock" stations than "Easy To Be Hard" or "Eli's Coming" -- my take is that 1) it's a party tune and 2) the Rago-Radni and Nyro tunes might be (gasp gasp) considered more -- dare I even breathe the word -- revolutionary?! Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 10:09:35 -0700 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: favorite obscure Pitney track This one is a B-side that did chart, but I've always liked: "If I Didn't Have A Dime" gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 16:25:37 +0000 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Sir Ben, Bri' and The Beatles I found this paragraph recently in an online bio of actor Ben Kingsley: "Made his London stage debut in 1966 as the narrator of 'A Smashing Day' produced by Beatles manager, Brian Epstein. He wrote the music for the production as well as sang and played guitar for same. After one performance, John Lennon and Ringo Starr came backstage and told him that he should go into music and that if he didn't, 'he would regret it for the rest of his life.' He was subsequently offered a deal by the same publishers who handled the Beatles, but he chose to remain an actor. The next year, he was invited to join the Royal Shakespeare Company and his choice was made." I've never heard of this musical before. Is it a known entity to Beatles experts? --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 23:40:34 +0100 From: Richard Williams Subject: Re: favorite obscure Pitney track My vote would go to "24 Sycamore" -- if it's obscure enough. Richard Williams -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 04:41:44 -0000 From: Wes Smith Subject: Re: favorite obscure Pitney track / Relic Al Kooper wrote: > OK, come outa the basements, lads... Favorite obscure Pitney trax? > Mine is One Day. Also love Donna Means Heartbreak & Marianne. I'll certainly go along with the two above -- real nice, although I didn't think "Donna Means Heartbreak" was anywhere near obscure as "Marianne". Also I must add two more that I was unaware of for years, "Angels Got Together" and "Rising Tide Of Love". Both real nice, to my ears. Phil X. Mil wrote: > Relic Rack, which, if I recall correctly, spawned the Relic line of doo- > wop reissues, although the two separated from one another after a > while. Relic Rack shut down a few months ago, a sad event which > prompted a brief thread in these parts. Apparently the Relic label has been gone for some time, too. A real shame, because they did things right. Wes Smith -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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