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There are 16 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Cowsills a L'Italiano
           From: Frank Jastfelder 
      2. Re: the power of the DJ/payola
           From: Fred Clemens 
      3. Re: favorite obscure Pitney track
           From: Lyn 
      4. Re: a visit to the Hall of Fame
           From: Hal Muskat 
      5. Re: favorite obscure Pitney track
           From: Simon White 
      6. Re: NYC record shops -- update
           From: Mikey 
      7. Re: "Celebrate" controversey
           From: Joe Nelson 
      8. Re: Gene Pitney
           From: Austin Powell 
      9. Re: labels for elders
           From: Gary Myers 
     10. Re: The Aquatones Story
           From: Judye 
     11. Re: favorite obscure Pitney track
           From: Stewart Mason 
     12. Re: favorite obscure Pitney track
           From: Patrick Beckers 
     13. Re: Love Of The Common People
           From: Martin Roberts 
     14. Re: Gene Pitney
           From: (That) Alan Gordon 
     15. Touch the Wall of Sound
           From: Brian Davy 
     16. Re: Waddle, Waddle
           From: Gary Myers 

Message: 1 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 10:26:13 +0200 From: Frank Jastfelder Subject: Re: Cowsills a L'Italiano Paul Richards wrote: > Is 'Le Opere Di Bartolomeo' the same song as Wayne Fontana's great > 'The Words of Bartholemew'? Nope, Le Opere ... is an original Italian composition by Cini/Bardotti. I'm not familiar with these names but maybe one of our Sopranopoppers knows some details. I will post the track to musica, but this will take some time since I first have to transfer it on CD. Frank J -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 11:23:54 -0000 From: Fred Clemens Subject: Re: the power of the DJ/payola Phil X. Mitein wrote: > This same dynamic exists to this day, although such shows are generally > annual events and under the banner of an entire station rather than a > single DJ. It's also what brings us payola, and the very reason why it > will always exist in some form or another. Artists and labels need radio > in order to sell records, and will do whatever it takes to gain and > maintain access to it. Payola, as I understand it to where it makes some sense, is when records were played for pay (or other reimbursement) and went undeclared as income by the DJ and/or station. It was when the government didn't get their cut that got them into trouble. Fred Clemens -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 17:38:44 +1000 From: Lyn Subject: Re: favorite obscure Pitney track For me, it's 1968's "Billy You're My Friend", a mini-opera in three-and-a- third minutes. As to whether that's an "obscurity," Pitney's quality repertoire was so large that people in different places might have different ideas about what was obscure or mainstream. "Billy ..." was a charting single in three of our four major cities in Australia, but not in Sydney, our largest market. Pitney began including "Who Needs It?" on his Australian tours, once he figured out that the Aussies yelling out "Who Needs It?" at his concerts weren't hecklers but fans requesting this song, a hit in Australia but known mainly as a B-side elsewhere. Lyn -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 05:56:13 -0700 From: Hal Muskat Subject: Re: a visit to the Hall of Fame John Fox wrote: > I just got back from visiting the R&RHOF in Cleveland with my son, and > we were struck by the tremendous inconsistency of the "official" Hall > inductees. You raise some excellent issues, Mr. Fox! Who determines deservedness, and who elected them to do so? Do they speak for fans, musicians, labels or what? Criteria has never been clear -- sort of like mystery meat. I would have thought Mr. Kooper had a space there, and your points are well taken. Does the fact the museum is in Cleveland have anything to do with anything? Hal -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 19:27:42 +0100 From: Simon White Subject: Re: favorite obscure Pitney track Howard suggested: > I'd like to nominate "She's A Heartbreaker", a great Inez & Charlie > Foxx composition. I'll second itm Howard -- didn't Richard "Popcorn" Wylie produce? Simon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 14:36:24 -0400 From: Mikey Subject: Re: NYC record shops -- update Correction. Midnight Records is gone .... busted by the Feds. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 15:08:02 -0400 From: Joe Nelson Subject: Re: "Celebrate" controversey That Alan Gordon wrote: > Joe Nelson, the song "Celebrity Ball" (aka "Celebrate") was written > by (me) Alan Gordon and Garry Bonner. That's what I figured. I just didn't understand why the guy (who operates an oldies CD database for a living and should have known that) would single that one track out as the one 3DN hit the group did write themselves if it wasn't true. I thought there might have been some misinformation at some point, and was wondering if you had any info on the history of same, resolution (legal or otherwise), etc. Joe Nelson -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 20:25:15 +0100 From: Austin Powell Subject: Re: Gene Pitney There was an excellent 50-track double CD of Gene issued in the UK by Sanctuary in 2000. In the notes, which take the form of an interview between GP and Roger Dopson, he confirms that "(I Wanna) Love My Love Away" cost $30 to make, using a "small studio on 7th Avenue." The Musicor label was formed by Gene's publisher Aaron Schroeder, with the help of Art Talmadge at United Artists. The notes are almost as entertaining as listening to the songs -- and what an array of songwriters! Austin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 11:58:32 -0700 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: labels for elders Country Paul wrote: > Aren't there any labels out there, like Gold Castle once was, who are > issuing new work by known artists who have "aged out" of the major- > label machinery? Pat Boone has a label of that nature. It was fun to see him and Little Richard sitting side by side on the Today show last week. gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 14:52:14 EDT From: Judye Subject: Re: The Aquatones Story WOW!!!! What a GREAT Interview!!! Thanks for sharing it with us! Dave most definitely has a way with words. I enjoyed this interview very much! Let me say this again, The Aquatones new CD "40 Years Later" is awesome. If you don't have it, get it -- you won't be sorry! The Aquatones' number one fan, Judye -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 12:17:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: favorite obscure Pitney track Howard suggested: > I'd like to nominate "She's A Heartbreaker", a great Inez & Charlie > Foxx composition. A fabulous track, but it was actually one of Gene's hits, hitting #16 in the summer of 1968. (It was also his last chart record.) This is something closer to a "lost hit," one of those chart records that you never hear anymore because as far as oldies radio is concerned, Gene's only hits were "Only Love Can Break A Heart," "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" and "It Hurts To Be In Love." But that's a whole different rant, and one I've ranted here before. I've seen Gene live twice in the last three years, and both times "She's A Heartbreaker" was one of the highlights of his live set, the song where he lets the band have a workout. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 21:36:51 +0200 From: Patrick Beckers Subject: Re: favorite obscure Pitney track I have three favorite obscure Pitney tracks: Billy You're My Friend Animal Crackers (co-written by our own Alan Gordon) Shady Lady Patrick Beckers -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 08:47:24 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Re: Love Of The Common People I'm not sure of the release date -- mid- to late '60s, I'd guess -- but Deane Hawley also recorded "Love Of The Common People", on Sundown 111. Produced by Marshall Leib, and arranged & conducted by Jimmy Haskell. Quite nice, but surely there is no finer version of this song than Nicky Thomas's reggae version, from 1969. Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 11:37:46 -0700 From: (That) Alan Gordon Subject: Re: Gene Pitney Not only is Gene Pitney one of the rare great voices ever, he has written some great songs as well. "He`s A Rebel", "Hello Mary Lou", "I Wanna Love My Life Away", just to mame a few. I also agree with my fellow S'pop member that Al Kooper is too good to be in the R&R Hall of Fame. I would however pay to visit a rock n roll pirates pavillion, where all the infamous crooks would be displayed in wax! Woudn`t that be great. Best, That Alan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 19:28:20 +0100 From: Brian Davy Subject: Touch the Wall of Sound I recently acquired a copy of "Touch the Wall of Sound" - a 60-track double CD on "Ring of Stars". Track 19 on side 1 is listed as "I Love Him" by The Castanets, but clearly isn't. The title might well be "You Don't Do What I Say" -- does anybody know who's singing? Brian -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 12:07:02 -0700 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: Waddle, Waddle Julio Nino wrote: > Is the main voice a girl or a boy? (it seems that I always have trouble > distinguishing between boys and girls) << Hah! That could be a real problem. I'll bet you really had it tough with Laurie London's "He's Got The Whole World ..." :-) gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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