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Spectropop - Digest Number 1499



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There are 11 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Herb Alpert
           From: Al Kooper 
      2. Re: Superbabs
           From: Al Kooper 
      3. Celebration to Musica / Alan Gordon / Fem Complex / Wizzard, etc
           From: Clark Besch 
      4. Cloudy Summer Afternoon
           From: Jim Shannon 
      5. DC5's Mike Smith info
           From: Clark Besch 
      6. Re: Guess Who
           From: superoldies 
      7. Re: Brian Wilson covers
           From: Phil X Milstein 
      8. Re: Andrew Loog Oldham and Pete Meaden
           From: Joe Foster 
      9. Re: Gene Pitney
           From: Jim Shannon 
     10. Re: Aquatones
           From: Mikey 
     11. Re: Aquatones
           From: Judye 


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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 09:00:43 EDT From: Al Kooper Subject: Herb Alpert Previously: > Herb recorded under the "Dore" moniker a couple (?) of singles for > RCA, around 1962, and just before those a single for the Carnival > label. He also, around 1959, recorded a vocal for the Prep label, > using "Herb Alpert". I have the Carnival and one RCA single. Was Alpert at the helm of the pre A&M westcoast Dore Records label? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 08:40:29 EDT From: Al Kooper Subject: Re: Superbabs Previously: > Now responding to Martin's questions. Charlie Callelo arranged my > version of "My Heart Belongs To Me" on my Extragordonary lp. So when > Barbra (Streisand) did the song we felt Charlie would be the right > call, and he did a brilliant job. Years later in 1987, Charlie & I were working on a TV pilot that Don Johnson was producing. We had a meeting with him at our studio in North Hollywood and he showed up with his squeeze at the time, Babs. When she saw Charlie, she lit up like an Xmas Tree (uhhh- Chanukah lamp) and they ran off to the lounge to chat it up. Johnson & I had the meeting meanwhile. She still adored our Charlie years after the "That Alan" experience. My estimation of her went up that night. Al "Sooper" Kooper P.S. Alan Gordon - I'll be in LA in January and we must get together for your computer lesson. So much for ex-Magicians...... -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 16:12:44 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Celebration to Musica / Alan Gordon / Fem Complex / Wizzard, etc The talk of the Feminine Complex got me thinking about some of the obscure female group sounds of 68/9. Posted to Musica was one that would just fit with the limited space, "Have You Tried Love" by Celebration. It was released on United Artists 50467 and for December, 1968, seemed to incorporate much of the pop sounds of the day. I hear the Happenings, Cowsills, Love Generation and the theme to Tv shows of the era, as well as other pop influences of the day. It was written and produced by Tony Michaels and Vinny Gormann for Mirage City Productions. I assume Tony and Vinny were group members of an obviously male/female configuration. I actually like the B side better, "Never Mind the Rain", if anyone would want to hear it too. Alan Gordon may well know about this group, as one of their followups would be his "Celebrity Ball" (aka "Celebrate") on UA 50626 released in February, 1970. The timing was not good, as Three Dog Night's retitled version was released on 45 and buried "Celebration's Celebrity". Three Dog's version was itself a case of bad timing too. Being the third single from a 6 month old album that had already spawned two top 10 45's ("Easy to be Hard"/"Eli's Coming") , had seen the group release a "live" album since then, it would seem it amazing that all the airplay for "Celebrate" was able to get it up to #15 on the Hot 100 eventually. Certainly the most played of the three hits, one wonders if it'd been released first if it had been the group's first #1 record. Even in 20/20 hindsight, Alan had a real feather in his cap there. Speaking of That Alan, am wondering if Lou Rawls' "Show Business" is by chance a song you wrote? I have the song on Cd, but no writers credits. I know you wrote a song by that title and I doubt it would be Lou's song, but it was released in your hottest charting period, mid-1967. Any help here? Back to the female music topic. Apparently, my Mindy and the Complex 45 from October, 1969 is indeed the same group as the Feminine Complex. The 45 is on Athena 5011. A Cd biography mentions them recording for Athena! How odd that neither 45 side is on the Cd, despite it having the released Lp and 11 demos. I will post both sides to Musica when space permits, if there is interest. A few other great 45s I remember from that period of obscure girl groups were "My Idea" by Creme Caramel on Janus (also 10/69!), "For Pete's Sake" by Sweetwater (7/69), and "Masquerade" by Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66 (3/70). A few years later, "Shyin' Away" by Spring (73) had that style, with obvious Brian Wilson sound. One more thing. I was watching a couple of Roy Wood's Wizzard videos last week and it was amazing how much "See My Baby Jive" and "Dear Elaine" lent itself to the early Phil Spector girl group sound! Ok, enough already......Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 17:28:57 -0000 From: Jim Shannon Subject: Cloudy Summer Afternoon Anyone recall a Barry McGuire release called "Cloudy Summer Afternoon"? The song was released during the summer of '66 but charted poorly, only reaching the top 30 or so. Seem to remember nice lyrics and melody to it. Is it available on CD? Thanks for any help, Jim Shannon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 16:16:43 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: DC5's Mike Smith info Here is some heartening news on DC5 lead singer Mike Smith's latest condition after his terrible fall at home in Europe. Here is a doctor's memo from April: Mike is now swallowing ice cream and yoghurts without any difficulty and today he is having another swallow test to see if he can commence swallowing solids. It is anticipated that he will do so very soon.The dreaded "Hospital Bug" has now been eliminated and because he is now breathing so well without the use of the tracheotomy, it's removal is being considered in the near future.Because his breathing difficulties have improved so much, in about two weeks time, it is hoped to move him from the Progressive Care Unit into a rehabilitation unit where he will then be able to have more specific therapy designed to improve movement. Without the tracheotomy and by being moved to this unit, he will also be far less exposed to picking up chest infections.Movement in his right arm, hand and fingers is minimal but improving and I shall be very surprised if he is not able to play the keyboard again with this hand. Movement in the left arm is good and much more controlled but that of the fingers is limited because of fixed flexion, and is probably going to be the hardest problem to reverse. There is also improvement in neck movement and head control.He is spending time each afternoon in his wheelchair and when he is in the rehabilitation unit he will eventually be taught how to manipulate a wheelchair modified to be used with his limitations.All in all terrific news and again he is so pleased to be alive. An independent life is now definite. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 10:07:03 -0000 From: superoldies Subject: Re: Guess Who Previously: > ...one of my lost unreleased tracks by the Guess Who, "Use your > Imagination" which I wrote and Co-produced [uncredited]. I did it > when I was a staff writer Scepter records. "Use Your Imagination" did make the Sundazed label Guess Who CD from a few years back...kickin' track! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 12:28:16 +0000 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: Brian Wilson covers Artie Wayne wrote: > to Phil Milstein.......My favorite Brian Wilson cut by a female is "God > only Knows" by Olivia Newton-John, which I gave her on my first day > running Irving/Almo music. Hi Artie, it's great to have you back in the fold! Thanks for the tip on ONJ doing GOK. I'd like to try and scare me up a copy -- was it a 45? LP cut? --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 20:52:40 +0100 From: Joe Foster Subject: Re: Andrew Loog Oldham and Pete Meaden Previously: > Oldham had two other role models: Pete Meaden, the Who's first manager > and one of the original mods, and the teenage svsngali and producer > Phil Spector. > That Pete Meaden was a role model for Oldham rings vaugely familiar, > and certainly makes sense, > That's odd, because Meaden & the Detours/High Numbers would only just > have hit the scene by mid '64, by which time the Stones had two UK top > 10 records. And no small notoriety.. Peter and the Loog were from the same neighbourhood, around Hampstead way...and ran many a semi-innocent rascally teenage hustle together, in one of which they managed to involve the pre-fame Peter and Gordon...they even started a PR consultancy together..all this pre-band management...see ALO's excellent book Stoned for all the hilarious and almost sordid details, much better than I could tell them....it's a small world you see! all the best Joe -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 19:14:08 -0000 From: Jim Shannon Subject: Re: Gene Pitney John Berg wrote: > I flew through Heathrow yesterday (enroute to my Seattle home from a > visit to Egypt) and noted in the latest issue of "Q" magazine that > Pitney will be doing some UK dates later this year. My question is, > why has nobody produced a recent "contemporary" album with him along > the lines of those done with Roy Orbison and Del Shannon in the '80s? > Surely there are enough songwriters and musicians out there who > hugely admire Pitney's singing (and writing) and have industry "pull" > to make such a project feasible. Or is Pitney himself simply not > interested in such a venture? Anybody know the answers (or have I > missed a recent Pitney album of recent recordings?) Good question and one that should be answerd by Gene himself as I am trying to make contact with him. He resides in Somers, Connecticut, not too far from his hometown of Rockville, CT. I have e-mailed him to see if there would any interest in being interviewed for Spectropop. Jim Shannon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 16:12:13 -0400 From: Mikey Subject: Re: Aquatones The Aquatones' "You" Lp was released on Relic Records back in the 80s. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 21:22:13 -0000 From: Judye Subject: Re: Aquatones Hi Guys, New member here - I just read the post on my Favorite Group, The Aquatones, and I have to tell you, they are TO DIE FOR!! I have their latest CD - "40 Years Too Late" - NOT a bad song on the CD - honestly, every song on there - ALL 23 of them - will totally 'BLOW YOU AWAY'!!! I'm very PROUD to call myself their Number One Fan, oh, and I'm most definitely that! Great website Guys! I'm glad to be a part of it! Judye -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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