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Spectropop - Digest Number 1481



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There are 12 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: posthumous overdubs
           From: Ed Salamon 
      2. Re: need song help!
           From: Dave Heasman 
      3. Re: Bob Lind prequel
           From: Mike McKay 
      4. Re: Projections location
           From: David Coyle 
      5. Deep Stardust
           From: David Coyle 
      6. "Hippies" thanks/South Street
           From: S.J. Dibai 
      7. Re: Paris Sisters' "Be My Boy"
           From: Mike McKay 
      8. Re: Linde, Antell, Percells: well done, lads!
           From: Martin Roberts 
      9. Re: L.A. session musicians
           From: Charles Ulrich 
     10. Re: Murray the K LP on Chess
           From: Ed Salamon 
     11. part of the 16
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     12. Re: need song help!
           From: Alan V Karr 


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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 18:56:51 -0000 From: Ed Salamon Subject: Re: posthumous overdubs previously: > Another overdubbing "project" I cant stand is on the Vogues > Reprise "Greatest Hits" LP where they overdubbed a huge orchestra > over the groups original mono Co & Ce recordings. While the sound > is fuller (I guess you can call them "true stereo" mixes) the > overblown arrangements stick out badly. I heard one of those Vogues overdubs ("Magic Town", I think) played last weekend on "Dick Clark's Rock, Roll and Remember". Remakes, overdubs, alternate takes, and stereo remixes that sound nothing like the original hit mono mix were pet peeves of mine when I programmed radio shows, and I guess they still are. Ed -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 19:44:49 +0100 From: Dave Heasman Subject: Re: need song help! Justin McDevitt wrote: > The other day while my mind was recalling various musical memories of > my youth, a song bubbled up into my consciousness. I first heard this > track played on the radio in early December 1964. I don't know if it > charted here in the US, though I'm sure it did chart in the UK and in > Europe. This particular song has a two-word title, the first word being > "Tokyo". The ensemble, Bert Kaempfert-like in its sound, took its > name from a fellow German, the guy who most likely had put the band > together. I know that one of you experts will step up to the plate and > solve this musical mystery here. Helmut Zacharias: Tokyo Melody -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 17:16:15 EDT From: Mike McKay Subject: Re: Bob Lind prequel Country Paul wrote: > Not dead, in fact a "prequel" of sorts, is the Bob Lind album on Verve > Folkways (or was it Forecast by then?), designed to cash in on the success > of "Elusive Butterfly," which overdubbed a orchestra over some folk-style > earlier recordings by Lind. LOL, I have that album, Paul. It's actually entitled "The Elusive Bob Lind." You're right on the money about the sync problems between the orchestra and the original tracks. There's one song on there I kinda like; title escapes me ... something about "just below the Rockies ... lives a lonely girl" or some such. Even on that song, you wonder how musicians could be that "off." As for the other tracks, they're virtually unlistenable. Townes Van Zandt's debut album, on the Poppy label, sounds like it surely must have been given this "after-the-fact" orchestra treatment as well. The accompaniment is totally inappropriate for the material, and Townes wisely rerecorded many of the tunes on this LP for later releases, giving them the more organic and minimalist settings that suited them. Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 12:38:12 -0700 (PDT) From: David Coyle Subject: Re: Projections location I always loved that Blues Project photo with the members posed behind one of those playground climbing things. Just looks like a natural setting (foredrop?) for a band photo. In fact, the playground in my apartment complex has one of those and I've long been tempted to have my picture taken peering from behind it, ala the Project. If I ever started a band, it would definitely be utilized. David -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 12:29:55 -0700 (PDT) From: David Coyle Subject: Deep Stardust I give my vote, also for "Stardust" and "Deep Purple," as done by Billy Ward's Dominoes, as two of the great lost classics of all time. It may sound like sacrilege, but I almost prefer the Dominoes' version of "Purple" (with Eugene Mumford's sonorous, transcendent lead vocal, which is also featured on "Stardust") to the better known (or at least more played) Nino & April version. And that, for me, is saying a lot. David -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 21:16:46 -0000 From: S.J. Dibai Subject: "Hippies" thanks/South Street Thank you very much to all who contributed answers to my "hippie" question! And it seems like both me and my professor friend screwed up -- we both got Dobie Gillis and Maynard G. Krebs mixed up! Country Paul's answer (hip black community in the South Street area) seems the most likely, because after I posted the question I realized that the songs I referred to as using the term "hippie" also mention South Street: "South Street": "Where do all the hippies meet? South Street ..." "Birdland": "On South Street, the hippies and the gippies [or whatever he's saying!] like birdland ..." "You Can't Sit Down": "When you're on South Street (you can't sit down) and the band is really bootin' (you can't sit down) you hear the hippie with the back beat ..." It also occurred to me that the latter song also uses the term "hip hop": "You gotta slop, bop, flip flop, hip hop, never stop ..." I suggest we refrain from trying to analyze what THAT might've meant in 1963! Out of curiosity, however, if anyone here remembers South Street the way it was in 1963, does it match the descriptions in these songs? It sure as hell doesn't now! Thanks again, S.J. Dibai -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 17:23:41 EDT From: Mike McKay Subject: Re: Paris Sisters' "Be My Boy" Country Paul wrote: > May I gently disagree? With the exception of the "slamming" snare on the > offbeat, "Be My Boy," their first for Gregmark (Gregmark 2), pre-dates it. I just want to say how much I love this song. Don't know why, but it really gets to me. And for some reason, I can hear in my mind's ear a remake (obviously with a sex change) by The Beach Boys, with some trademark close harmonies on the title phrase. I think it'd be a killer. I've had it in mind to try this myself via multi-tracking, and I just may someday. Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 10:42:08 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Re: Linde, Antell, Percells: well done, lads! Almost full marks to John Clemente and S'pop for the fabulous new presentation, "John Linde, Peter Antell & The Percells" ( http://www.spectropop.com/percells/index.htm ). What a great story, and are those pictures cool or what! The last time I chatted with Peter was a year ago at the S'pop party in New York City. (To be honest that was the only time I've chatted to Pete, or for that matter the only time I've been to NYC. I have been to a few S'Pop do's, though!) And what a nice chap -- he waited patiently while I tried to get my befuddled brain in gear in an attempt to recall some of the records he had been involved in. I failed rather miserably, but then it had been a busy day. Anyway, no need to worry -- the new S'pop feature has a super Selected Discography. I haven't heard all the records on there, but I have enough to know I need to hear more. I've played Nick Cardell "Everybody Jump" (AmCan) to musica, and this is one of the reasons the feature doesn't get full marks. As informative as John's interviews with Peter Antell and John Linde are, I'd like to know more about their work! How about a follow-up piece, crossing the t's and dotting some i's? Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 14:34:02 -0700 From: Charles Ulrich Subject: Re: L.A. session musicians Frank Jastfelder wrote: > The only one I know for sure on the picture from the Lumpy Gravy > session is Dennis Budimir (that's his correct spelling). Sorry. That was a typo on my part. > He's fourth to left from Zappa (the one with the short-sleeved black > shirt in the foreground). Thanks! This also helps me narrow down the date of the photo, since he was at only two of the three March sessions, and not at the February session. --Charles -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 21:25:04 -0000 From: Ed Salamon Subject: Re: Murray the K LP on Chess Country Paul wrote: > Re: Murray The K LPs, there was one on Chess as well: "Murray The K's > Golden Gassers," Chess 1458 NYC. Interesting - no liner notes, and on the > labels, no mention of Murray! The "NYC" after the number gives it away; > Chess probably franchised the LP in various markets to various DJs. Right you are, Paul. I have the Pittsburgh version, with my friend Porky Chedwick on the cover, which I bought in 1961, and I understand there was a KYA, San Francisco version as well. My favorite Boston-area country act was John Lincoln Wright & The Sourmash Boys Wright was ex-Beacon Street Union. I remember him visiting me at WHN in the mid-'70s. Ed -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 22:54:10 -0400 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: part of the 16 Been leafing through some old pop mags lately, before a friend of mine unloads them on eBay. The pile includes the July 1966 issue of "16," Gloria Stavers' amazing mix of teeniebop ephemera ("Find Five Errors in the Elvis Drawing"; "Win Herman's 'Lion' Clothes; "Dino, Desi & Billy's Mailbox") with subtly adult and surprisingly eclectic material. I thought y'all might enjoy a few of the odds & ends I found in "Gee Gee's Gossip!!" page: * ROBERT VAUGHN is NOT dying from malnutrition, macrobiotics or sanpaku -- so will you all quit reading those grisly scandal sheets and believing they baloney they print! * BEATLES' supposedly surprise trip to Memphis was to record in the same studio that RUFUS THOMAS and BOOKER T. use. Great sounds come out of there! [did this really happen?] * SUPREMES and HERBIE ALPERT have formed a mutual admiration society. * JOHNNY HAMMOND has signed with Red Bird Records and his first single is called "I Wish You Would." One of these days the world is gonna get woke to how hip and beautiful this young man is. * Recommended LPs this month include The Shadows Of Knight's "Gloria" on Dunwich; "The Wondrous World Of Sonny & Cher" on Atco; Dionne Warwicks' [sic] "Here I Am" on Scepter; James Brown's "I Got You" and "Papa's Got A Brand New Bag" on King; "Sonny Boy Williams [sic] & The Yardbirds" on Mercury [sic; wasn't it on Epic?]; "Them Again" on Parrot; and Chet Atkins' groovey "Pickin' On The Beatles" (he's a guitarist -- get it?) on RCA Victor. Also dig Eddie Rambeau's single "I'm The Sky," anything by Deon Jackson (Detroit's answer to Johnny Mathis), and "Diddy Wah Diddy" by The Remains. Boston's answer to Deon Jackson, --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 21:46:19 -0000 From: Alan V Karr Subject: Re: need song help! Justin McDevitt wrote: > This particular song has a two-word title, the first word being > "Tokyo". The ensemble, Bert Kaempfert-like in its sound, took its > name from a fellow German, the guy who most likely had put the band > together. I know that one of you experts will step up to the plate and > solve this musical mystery here. Tokyo Melody, by Helmut Zacharias (Polydor NH 52341), co-written by Lionel Bart. Charted Top 20 in the UK, and was the theme song of the 1964 Tokyo Olympics. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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