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Spectropop - Digest Number 1469



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There are 9 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Back To Mono
           From: James Botticelli 
      2. Re: Back to Mono
           From: Gary Myers 
      3. Re: Back to Mono
           From: John Sellards 
      4. Re: Back To Mono
           From: Al Kooper 
      5. Re: the Spectropoop on Ray Charles
           From: Al Kooper 
      6. '60s Girly Sounds A-Go-Go! May Da Doo Ron Ron
           From: Chris King 
      7. Re: The Penthouse ... good news!
           From: Michael Stroggoff 
      8. Re: Schlagers
           From: Phil X.  Milstein 
      9. Re: Pied Piper
           From: Alan Gordon 


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Message: 1 Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 11:01:40 -0400 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Back To Mono Al Kooper wrote: > Many years ago, I found a Japanese import of a one disc Phil Spector > collection IN STEREO!!!! It's one of my most prized posessions. "Be My > Baby", "Walkin' In The Rain", "Do I Love You" etc. Some brilliant mind > asked to borrow it when Spector was inducted into the Hall of Shame > and I'm sure that guy had a private laugh over that usage. I just > listened to it the other day - it's still amazing. I have it as well. You just haven't heard "Uptown" until you've heard the stereo version. JB -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 21:17:02 -0700 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: Back to Mono > what kind of sense does that make when the whole point of The Mamas > & Papas is those four voices blending together as one with those > wonderfully complex John Phillips-devised harmonies? OT, but this reminds me of the first time I saw the Four Freshmen. It was a small club and they were using one mic -- and playing instruments -- and their blend was perfect! gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 11:49:22 -0000 From: John Sellards Subject: Re: Back to Mono Mike McKay wrote: > stereo, and there's quite a lot of that about. The example I've always > cited is the truly abominable stereo mixes of The Mamas & Papas' great > body of recorded work. In these mixes, the four voices are spread all > across the stereo spectrum. It sounds as if the four of them are > isolated in separate rooms, miles apart from one another. I've heard this over and over about the Dunhill mono tapes being gone. Surely some of these things were issued somewhere other than the USA where the tapes didn't get pitched? John Sellards -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 01:54:13 EDT From: Al Kooper Subject: Re: Back To Mono Mike McKay wrote: > My bottom line has always been this: I'm not anti-stereo ... I'm anti-BAD > stereo, and there's quite a lot of that about. The example I've always > cited is the truly abominable stereo mixes of The Mamas & Papas' great > body of recorded work. In these mixes, the four voices are spread all > across the stereo spectrum. It sounds as if the four of them are > isolated in separate rooms, miles apart from one another. Well, we agree on one thing -- we are both against bad stereo mixes. I have been doing hands-on stereo mixing since 1971. I consider it an art form, and the only reason it's hands-on is because I've never worked with an engineer that hears my productions the way I do. I wish I could find someone that did, for then I could take a vacation after the wrap of recording and come home to a finished CD. It doesn't look like that's gonna happen. So after 33 years of mixing, I have my methods and theories about it. I just mixed two albums from 1968 in 5.1 surround sound, a first for me. It is an amazing platform for listening, albeit the antithesis of mono. I understand about BAD stereo mixes -- there was once an in-house remix of "Good Thing" by Paul Revere etc., that I couldn't believe anyone who called himself an engineer could turn in as finished work. That was a great example of the spreading-out of mono power in a bad way. However, I just downloaded (from i-Music) the great stereo mix of "Reach Out" by The Four Tops (a GREAT mono record), and the stereo is pretty darn good. I prefer the ambiance and balance of a great stereo mix to the bunchedupness of mono, but we're all entitled to our own opinions based on how we live our lives. But your point is well-taken -- down with BAD stereo mixes ~~~~~~ Al - K o o p e r - Al -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 02:12:24 EDT From: Al Kooper Subject: Re: the Spectropoop on Ray Charles Stuart Miller wrote: > Al, I believe Ray was an absolute nightmare to work with that time and > was actually reponsible for Charlie walking away from the business for > a while afterwards. Is that your recollection of the recording? Stuart, you have wrongs and rights in your reply. Let's adress them: First off, the one award that I think Ray Charles should own is the lifetime achievement Academy Award. He has convinved Middle America that he is a swell guy in the ranks of, say, B.B. King. Now don't get me wrong -- musically-speaking, I would not be here today if it wasn't for the influence of Ray Charles. Many of my compatriots are in the same postion. BUT ... talk to anyone who's worked for him or been in his band and you'll hear another story entirely. Whereas B.B. King is probably the sweetest, most genuine person I've met in my professional 46 years, Ray Charles is most assuredly not. Yet they are perceived by the general public as one and the same personas. That's why Ray should own that award. DAMN he's a great actor. I understand he is going through bad health presently, and my prayers are with him -- he's probably the reason I succeeded in the music business. Now I consider this a pro forum, so let's not break any hearts and take this info out of here. Charlie Calello left LA after the riots that ensued when the cops beat up that African American guy whose name escapes me.* They came damn close to his palatial digs and his wife freaked out. Off they scrambled to Boca Raton, Florida, where they remain happily ensonced. Charlie and I worked with people worse than Ray Charles and survived. It was not Mr. C. that caused Calello to "ease up". It was geography. There's not a lotta sessions in Boca Raton nowadays, ya know. And arrangers are pretty much extinct in today's computer Top Ten list. Ray Charles had nothin' to do with THAT! Al Kooper *It would appear that Mr. Kooper refers here to the infamous Rodney King. --Admin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 09:21:22 +0100 From: Chris King Subject: '60s Girly Sounds A-Go-Go! May Da Doo Ron Ron Dear South Brit-based Spectropoppers: Da Doo Ron Ron -- the one and only '60s girl group club -- returns for our monthly sashay through the femme-centric side of the 60s on Saturday MAY 15th @ the Sussex Arts Club, 07 , Ship St, Brighton, BN1. Doors 9pm to 2am. Admission: 5 BEFORE 11pm! / 6 AFTER E-mail: dadooronron.club@ntlworld.com Tel: 01273-778020/727371. Established in October 1998 (in North London), Da Doo Ron Ron is a '60s oriented club night with a unique slant. In a tribute to original 'girl power', DDRR DJs Chris 'Da Doo' King and Simon Bridger (Brighton Northern Soul All-Dayers) spin only female-fronted tracks from the swingin' '60s. You will never hear a male lead vocal at DDRR! The club's musical menu is a femme-centric celebration of such '60s girl groups as The Ronettes, Marvelettes, Shangri-Las, Supremes, Chiffons, Crystals, Angels, etc., sassy soul sisters like Aretha, Dusty, Maxine Brown, Brenda Holloway and playful popstrels in the vein of Petula Clark, Lesley Gore and Helen Shapiro. For further info. please check the Da Doo website: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dadooronron/ "Da Doo Ron Ron -- A 'femme-centric' selection of back-combed harmonizing". The Guardian -- Number 1 Clubs 'Pick Of The Week' November 2003 Kindest regards, Chris Da Doo -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 05:13:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Stroggoff Subject: Re: The Penthouse ... good news! Frank Jastfelder wrote: > As far as I remember John Hawksworth's score was very creepy too. Jazz > with an edge and dialogue snippets in between. Too weird for me. I sold it. This is being released on CD later this month by UK label Harkit Records (HRKCD8081), http://www.harkitrecords.com with, I gather, great stills from the movie, which starred Suzy Kendall (one of Dudley Moore's wives). The release will also feature a rare interview with the late director Peter Collinson (who also made the original "Italian Job"). The original album was issued in the UK on Jeffrey Kruger's Ember label (NR5040). In the US it was released on United Artists ((5)4170). Much harder to find is the bizarre Italian release on CAM Records (SAG9008) which, in replaced the dialogue sequences with various other tracks that did not feature in the movie. I say bizarre because this strange album also featured music from "Four In The Morning" by John Barry! That soundtrack was also on the UK Ember label, and also on US Roulette. Chris Schneider wrote: > IMdB reveals that there's a song with lyrics by Hal Shaper, who wrote the > words for "Softly, As I Leave You." Sung by a certain Lisa Shane. Possibly > the same Lisa Shane who was in "A Slice of Pye" with Tony Hatch and Jackie > Trent? Lisa Shane was Cyril Shane's daughter. He was a music publisher in the UK. Michael -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 09:50:05 +0000 From: Phil X. Milstein Subject: Re: Schlagers Charles Ulrich wrote: > That's correct. Side one featured Petula Clark, Charles Wright, Peter > Paul & Mary, Ella Fitzgerald, Trini Lopez, Glenn Yarbrough, and The > Vogues. And so on for the other three sides. No Kinks or Mothers Of > Invention on this one! Charles Wright musta stuck out like a sore trombone slide on that one. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 08:46:33 -0700 From: Alan Gordon Subject: Re: Pied Piper Austin Roberts wrote: > Did Crispian St. Peters write his hit record of the same title? "Pied Piper" by Crispian St. Peters was written by Artie Kornfeld and Steve Duboff. Best, That Alan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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