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Spectropop - Digest Number 1463

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There are 21 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: copyright law
           From: Peter Grad 
      2. Re: Blues Magoos' flips
           From: Clark Besch 
      3. Remains / "Roses Are Red"
           From: ACJ 
      4. Re: back to mono?
           From: Phil X. Milstein 
      5. Re: The Globetrotters / Paula Wayne
           From: Howard 
      6. Re: copyright law
           From: Mikey 
      7. Paul Evans on the radio
           From: Fred Clemens 
      8. Re: Agnetha Faltskog
           From: Jimmy Crescitelli 
      9. Murray The K LPs
           From: Austin Powell 
     10. Re: The Globetrotters (Ron Dante & Jeff Barry)
           From: Laura Pinto 
     11. Shindig April Reviews Now Up
           From: Jon 'Mojo' Mills 
     12. Boston/Cambridge Folk & Bluegrass
           From: James Botticelli 
     13. Re: Grass Roots
           From: Austin Roberts 
     14. Re: Agnetha Faltskog
           From: Austin Roberts 
     15. My Colouring Book
           From: Ken Silverwood 
     16. Re: The Globetrotters (Ron Dante & Jeff Barry)
           From: S.J. Dibai 
     17. The Jordan Brothers
           From: S.J. Dibai 
     18. Re: 1910 Fruitgum Company
           From: paferra 
     19. Re: The Globetrotters (Ron Dante & Jeff Barry)
           From: Art Longmire 
     20. Tony and the Bandits
           From: Don Mangus 
     21. Re: Murray The K Brings You The "Hits"
           From: C. Ponti 

Message: 1 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:52:50 -0000 From: Peter Grad Subject: Re: copyright law C Ponti I read with interest your comment on CD copying as stealing. I respect your viewpoint, and of course do not condone the wholesale distribution of CD copies that denies fair payment to artists. However, the tougher issue is what to do about people who share songs among a friend or two. I have a record collection exceeding 3,000. Many of the artists were folks (from the 60's and 70's) I'd never have heard of if my friends did not lend me the album or make a cassette (or reel to reel) tape for me. I in turn made many tapes of obscure and/or interesting artists for friends who in turn often became fans and presumably down the road purchased their products. The limited, small-scale sharing of music clearly can be viewed as a marketing device among consumers that extends the reach of music to an audience it might not otherwise have found. Certainly musicians - as well as the fans - profit from such a system. Do you tape TV programs or watch rented DVDs with friends who did not pay to see them? They may enjoy what they watch and become fans of the artists and actors, and pay to see them in the future. DO you photostat newspaper articles or book or magazine excerpts? Technically, you're stealing from the writers if you do. But I'd like to think that is someone is copying an article I wrote and distrbuting it (in a limited manner, of course), I am potentially gaining new and varied readership. I would welcome such copying. I think we have to be careful whom we condemn; music lovers who share songs with friends should not be lumped into the same category as corporate music honchos who for so long have robbed artists of what is due them. Rather than threaten legal action against kids who balk at paying $18 for a CD and turn to the Web to find music they like, why not direct our energies towards corporations who are choking creativity, inflating commercial release prices, and depriving generations of rock heros (and rock unknowns) their due pay? Respectfully Peter -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:19:40 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Re: Blues Magoos' flips Mike wrote: > "Pipe Dream" was in fact a subsequent single release for The Blues > Magoos. If memory serves me, which it may not, the flip of "We > Ain't Got Nothin' Yet" was "Gotta Get Away." Dave O: > You're right, Mike. Nice catch. I misread the Whitburn book entry. > It was "Pipe Dream" that had a flip that briefly charted, called > "There's A Chance We Can Make It." Another interesting title for the > band, don't you think? Pretty funny about all the slim chance for success titles underlying the Blues Magoos' demise. Altho "Chance we Can Make It" seldom gets mention, I prefer it much more than "Pipe Dream" and it got A side play on WLS in Chicago. "Gotta Get Away" is great and was covered by Chicago's "Sounds Unlimited" and can be found on a Sundazed reissue EP. Their first 45 on Mercury, "Tobacco Road", was the way many Chicago bands performed the song onstage (altho elongated). So, basically, at least in Chicago, they had quite a profound influence on the groups of the time, despite the group's short popularity status. Maybe Moptop Mike will chime in here??? Clark PS. Their first 45 was on Verve about the time Al Kooper was working with the Blues Project. Am wondering if Al ever had any connection with the Magoos when both were on Verve. It's an odd coincidence that the Vereve 45 was listed "Bloos Magoos". I was wondering if that is because it would be confusing if there were "Blues Magoos" and "Blues Project" on the same label?? Then, moving to Mercury, it was changed to "Blues Magoos"? Maybe the Verve listing was just a mispelling?? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:27:00 -0400 From: ACJ Subject: Remains / "Roses Are Red" Regarding the Remains: Long before Larry Kane came out with his book "Ticket to Ride," Remains leader Barry Tashian wrote a book, also called "Ticket to Ride," about the Beatles' final concert tour, on which the Remains and the Ronettes (well, almost) were the opening acts. I think Barry's book is one of the best ever about the Beatles and Sixties pop/rock in general, and I hghly recommend it. And for Paul Evans: Did you ever find out whose idea it was to flip-flop the bridge and the last verse in Jim Reeves' version of "Roses Are Red"? ACJ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:45:01 -0400 From: Phil X. Milstein Subject: Re: back to mono? Joe Nelson wrote: > Is it my imagination, or did Umphred miss something? From what I've > always gathered, Brian wanted you to see his art, and that the way he > saw it. If you could or would change anything, you weren't getting his > vision. Mono was what it was, that mix was set in stone. In Brian's > monaural world, stereo was just another way to hear mono. That's always been my understanding, too, of the reasoning behind Wilson and Spector's preference for mono. I don't necessarily agree with it -- I love the fullness and richness of a good stereo mix -- but I think the point is a valid one, and worth keeping in mind as we listen (to both S and M). Umphred, on the other hand, sounds like he got his mind blown by the "movable sounds" of the early stereo releases, which, as fun as they are, were little more than demonstration records. "Listen: the tugboat starts in the left speaker and moves all the way over to the right!" OK ... then what? --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:55:43 EDT From: Howard Subject: Re: The Globetrotters / Paula Wayne Patrick Rands wrote: > Does anyone have any records by The Globetrotters? I have a single on RCA 2017 - 'Cheer Me Up' (written by Barry, Dante & Carr) c/w 'Gravey' (written by Clark, Bailey & Williams) both sides produced by Don Kirshner : Released in 1970 in the UK. While I was looking for the above details I pulled out another RCA (Victor) single by an artist by the name of Paula Wayne called 'It's A Happening World' (written By Mann, Weil) the other side is a Geenwood, Miller & Daman composition -'Now That I Need Him' RCA 1738 released in 1968, does anyone have any information on Paula.. regards.. Howard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:56:54 -0400 From: Mikey Subject: Re: copyright law Peter, what a wonderful post. You are, of course, quite right in your comments. As a musician and producer myself, with 6 commercially available Cds bearing my drum work, I absolutely recognize the value in sharing my music among like minded fans. This promotes interest in the band and my experience has been that someone who likes the "copy" will pruchase new Cds in the future AND come to shows. It is then well worth it. In the second place, it ISNT the kids file sharing that is the major source of "free music pirating", as much as the record companies would have you believe it. Rather, someone in Asia, or Indonesia, or Malta, or Europe , obtains the new Madonna Cd and then professionaly makes 10,000 copies at pressing facilty, pays in cash, so there is no record, and at that point, only has to recoup the manufacturing costs. Thus, they can sell these Cds to street vendors for 3.50$ who then sell it for 7$. THATS where the record companies lose money, on those 10,000 sales that never take place. At a wholsale price of 7.50, thats 75,000 on one title alone. A simple change in wholesale and retail pricing would virtually put the bootleggers out of business. But, the record companies see that as "giving away profits". Such a shortsided vision!!! no wonder they are in trouble. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 20:03:32 -0000 From: Fred Clemens Subject: Paul Evans on the radio Clark Besch wrote: > Paul, I can vouch for you on radio. I first heard you on the Bill > Miller Show a year or so ago on KMA in Iowa while driving home to > Nebraska. It was great hearing all your recollections. I got home > and checked out your website and emailed you and you emailed back! > Cool! Maybe you should be doing a doo wop show on WCBS in NYC, sine > they dropped doo wop in the town most known to embrace the music. Paul had been on Don K. Reed's Doo Wop Shop at least 2 times that I know of. Paul's a natural on the air. A while before his "Shop" appearance, in 1998, Bob Shannon had managed to get Paul on the phone when he was doing a Countdown show on one Saturday (one of his records was in the Countdown). Bob was amazed at Paul's spontanaity and witty remarks, and would have loved to do a full hour with him had he been allowed to. But the powers- that-were were restricting Bob's on-air interviews, allowing them only on Don K. Reed's Sunday night show. I had done a phone interview with Paul on Super Bowl Sunday, 1999 (the game wasn't going well). That was alot of fun! For those who are unaware, Paul did co-write a couple of Doo Wop classics with Jimmy(?) Krondes: "Valerie" by the Mello Kings on Herald; and "School Bells" by Nicky and the Nobles on Gone, the latter withh the additional help of "Jacobson" (was that Sid?). Fred Clemens -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:24:12 EDT From: Jimmy Crescitelli Subject: Re: Agnetha Faltskog Peter! Thanks for posting the info regarding her new CD. I've always loved this woman's voice... starting way back with ABBA. I will be sure to add this to my collection. To me, the 1970s were ABBA... they saved me from the soft-rock blues. Well, okay, so did Karen Carpenter for that matter ; ) Tusen takk for ditt brev, Jimmy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 21:43:16 +0100 From: Austin Powell Subject: Murray The K LPs Peter: Scepter also released "Murray the K, the Fifth Beatle Gives You Their Favourite Golden Gassers", complete with an autographed pic of the fab four with Murray on the back - 14 tracks including Dionne warwick, Drifters, Shirelles, Chuck Jackson, Chiffons, Kingsmen, Dale & Grace and Jan Bradley........and whilst there's been talk of Bobby Vinton of late, I have a Gary Stevens WMCA Good Guy LP called "22 Good Guy Goldies" which had a cartoon of GS being thrown out of the studio by "The Wooley Burger" and brief sleeve notes by Bobby Vinton - "Roses Are Red" is not on the LP, but Curtis Lee, The Shangri-Las, Dovells, Dion, Tymes, Del Shannon, Reflections, Little Ceasar, Orlons and Ad-Libs are among the 22 tracks....The inner sleeve showed "dee-jays LPs" from Jerry Stevens, Terry Lee, Jerry Blavat, Georgie Woods, Joe Niagara and Bill Wright Snr....They were all on a label out of Philly called Lost-Nite. Austin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 20:49:13 -0000 From: Laura Pinto Subject: Re: The Globetrotters (Ron Dante & Jeff Barry) Patrick Rands wrote: > Does anyone have any records by The Globetrotters? > > Is it true Ron Dante & Jeff Barry worked on this, I guess it was a > late 60s tv show? Any one have any idea how much came out under this > name and if it'll ever get reissued on cd? > > If anyone has a track by The Globetrotters handy, is it possible to > post a track in musica? Hi Patrick, I have the whole album - I'll list the tracks and songwriters here, and when I can I'll get one of them into musica. Ron Dante co-wrote one of the tracks, "Cheer Me Up." Neil Sedaka and Howard Greenfield wrote several tracks including my favorite, "Rainy Day Bells." Laura -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 18:43:33 +0100 From: Jon 'Mojo' Mills Subject: Shindig April Reviews Now Up It's nearly May... so here're the reviews for April... and there'll more to come in the next four weeks.... which leads to me think, where else on the web can you find FREE quality reviews of all the latest garage, psych, mod, late '60s-'70s rock, power pop and new band-er-ama anyway else on the planet????? No where! Shindig! it's where it's at! A few things covered this month: RICHARD BERRY SIMON DUPREE & THE BIG SOUND THE HUSTLERS NINO & APRIL THE PANDORAS THE RATS BERGEN WHITE SKY ‘SUNLIGHT’ SAXON AND THE SEEDS VARIOUS U-Spaces: Lost Sixties Delights Vol. 1 VARIOUS ARTISTS Come To The Sunshine: Soft Pop Nuggets From WEA VARIOUS Conquer The World! Rare Global Mod-Beat-Garage Punk 1965-1968 VARIOUS ARTISTS Garage Beat ’66: Vols. 1-3 VARIOUS Glitterbest: 20 Pre Punk Glam Terrace Stompers VARIOUS Northwest Battle Of The Bands: Vol. 4 VARIOUS ARTISTS Thee Cave Comes Alive: Lost ‘What Wave’ Fanzine Tapes -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:18:23 -0400 From: James Botticelli Subject: Boston/Cambridge Folk & Bluegrass > And another sixties Boston group, Earth Opera, was led by Peter Rowan > and David Grisman, now two of the true giants in the bluegrass field. > > Who'da thunk Boston of all places would produce country and bluegrass > stars?? Boston/Cambridge actually had a fairly thriving Folk/Bluegrass scene during the Great Folk Music Scare of the 60's...Club 47, Joe Val & The New England Bluegrass Boys, Geoff & Maria Muldaur, The Unicorn (club), Tom Rush, the legendary radio program, still on the air today, called "Hillbilly At Harvard"...The tone was au naturel in pre-chain store legitimately funky Harvard Square in the sixties ...Bluegrass fit in nicely. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:57:56 EDT From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: Grass Roots Fred, Thanks for the info on Let's Live For Today by the Roots. I never knew that. Austin Roberts -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:02:39 EDT From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: Agnetha Faltskog Peter Lerner: > Here's one Spectropopper who is happy to give a five star (that's > *****) review to Agnetha's brand new CD, "My colouring book". Peter, As a very lucky writer who had an Agnetha single (produced by Peter Cetera) several years ago, she sells a lot of records in countries other than America. Also sings her butt off. Austin Roberts -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 00:08:55 +0100 From: Ken Silverwood Subject: My Colouring Book Peter Lerner: > The title track is best known to me from a cover on a Brenda Lee > album, and I can't just now remember who performed the original > (Nana Mouskouri?), Peter, the only version I heard way back when was by Sandy Stewart, probably Pye Intl. in the UK (Colpix US). Then I heard a superior version by Dusty Springfield on (I'm guessing) "A Girl Called Dusty", the one where she wears a denim top. I'm now gonna keep a look out for Brenda Lee's. Do we know if the writer/s were female? Ken On The West Coast -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 23:22:55 -0000 From: S.J. Dibai Subject: Re: The Globetrotters (Ron Dante & Jeff Barry) Oh, my God! I used to hear "Rainy Day Bells" all the time on the local doo-wop shows. I had no idea about the background of this group, if the story you quoted is indeed true. I just knew it was from 1970, even though it sounded like a '50s or early '60s doo-wop record. Well, Patrick, if you can find a copy of "Rainy Day Bells," snap it up; it's a doo-wop gem. S.J. Dibai -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 23:36:05 -0000 From: S.J. Dibai Subject: The Jordan Brothers Ed B wrote: > I recall hearing Spencer Davis on radio with Gimme Some Lovin' > and thinking why were they doing a cover of The Jordan Brothers, > which was top 10 in Boston early 67. This reminds me of a question I've been meaning to ask: who ARE the Jordan Brothers? Bob Hyde mentions them in the liner notes of the (here it comes again) KIT KATS compilation, but he just says they were from Pennsylvania, they were labelmates of the Kats at one point (so they recorded for Jamie/Guyden???), and they successfully transitioned through the rock styles of the late '50s through late '60s. I also see them listed on a Cameo-Parkway discography, but I can't seem to find any other info about them on the 'net. Furthermore, is this act that covered "Gimme Some Lovin'" the same "Jordan Brothers" I'm talking about? And finally--how easy is it to find their recordings? (I think the answer to that question is, "It's not," but what do I know....) Thanks, S.J. Dibai -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 00:49:54 -0000 From: paferra Subject: Re: 1910 Fruitgum Company Bob Rashkow wrote: > Coconut Teaszer's tongue is planted firmly in cheek, but what > bothers ME is that we all know that "Yummy Yummy Yummy" was on > the charts in the late spring of 1968, not "the early 7Ts"!!! > I suspect a bad case of time warp here. Jeepers Bobster, you're more living proof of the everlasting power of bubblegum. What were you - all of ten when "Yummy" came out? You get a gold star :) If you'd like to bring back the flavor (so as to get them nasty old '7T's' out of your mouth) to what you've been chewing all these years, just listen to this: Some things REALLY never change :) paferra -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 01:26:22 -0000 From: Art Longmire Subject: Re: The Globetrotters (Ron Dante & Jeff Barry) Hello Patrick, I used to watch the Globetrotters show back in 1970-1971, and purchased the album back then-unfortunately I no longer have it. I think it was about the second album I ever bought. My brothers and I loved both the show and the album, in particular the track "Gravy" which we thought was as good as any of the funk tunes that were out at the time. Anybody know who sang lead on that track? I didn't realize that Meadowlark Lemon was the only Globetrotter to appear on the LP. Good luck getting a copy of this...I wonder how much it goes for on E-Bay these days? I've also heard "Rainy Day Bells", which is excellent-I believe it is a later recording done around 1972. Art Longmire -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 01:48:48 -0000 From: Don Mangus Subject: Tony and the Bandits Looking for any other info out there about a group I was associated with in the mid 60's called Tony and The Bandits. I was their promotions and advertising manager at that time period in Bond Hill, Cincy Area. I have had contact in the past with a Ron Sauer from Northern Kentucky and I am looking for any ifo/ photos or recordings done by this Cincinati Based Group. Thank you! Don Mangus Mild 2 Wild Entertainment -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 02:43:17 -0000 From: C. Ponti Subject: Re: Murray The K Brings You The "Hits" Peter, I hate to make this any more of a mystery, but the album I saw on the street had different titles. Also only a few titles were actual charting hits by the original artists. It was the kind of album you'd buy thinking you were getting the original hits only to find they were by a lesser known act. I am still fairly sure the Del Satins were on it. I bet it was one of those cut-out type releases you only saw at one chain of record stores. This would all be alot easier if I'd pulled it off the wet, dirty street, but it was filthy. It was obvious the vinyl was compromised by water and warping..... C Ponti -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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