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Spectropop - Digest Number 1458



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There are 6 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Judgement Time for The Magoos
           From: Mike McKay 
      2. Re: The Big Hurt
           From: Gary Myers 
      3. Re: The Big Hurt
           From: James Botticelli 
      4. Re: Girls With Guitars - The Charmaines
           From: Mick Patrick 
      5. Del Casher
           From: Phil X. Milstein 
      6. Re: Crime Story / The Ventures
           From: Al Kooper 


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Message: 1 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 13:12:54 EDT From: Mike McKay Subject: Re: Judgement Time for The Magoos Dave O' wrote: > We Ain't Got Nothin' Yet hit BB 12/10/66, peaking at #5 in 1967. The > flip of this single also charted for a while in the spring of '67. It > was called Pipe Dream; an apt description for hopes of a long musical > career? "Pipe Dream" was in fact a subsequent single release for The Blues Magoos. If memory serves me, which it may not, the flip of "We Ain't Got Nothin' Yet" was "Gotta Get Away." Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 09:53:43 -0700 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: The Big Hurt Peter Lerner wrote: > Miss Toni's version of The Big Hurt an all time classic ... Bonnie B: > Have you ever heard the Susan Rafey version on a verve album No, but Wes Montgomery did a nice one, too. Our band used to do that one. gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 13:34:07 -0400 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: The Big Hurt Bonnie B: > Have you ever heard the Susan Rafey version on a verve album Yes...arranged by Alan Lorber in '66 it is spectacular. Between the fuzz guitar and the Son of Wall of Sound, it resonated strongly at this address, resides in my collection, and was on 'moderate' rotation on my weekly kollij radio station show for a couple of years.... -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 19:26:17 +0100 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: Girls With Guitars - The Charmaines Me: > CD is subtitled "All-Girl Bands, Axe-Backed Babes and the like..." > Get the picture? Here's what's on it: > Girls With Guitars (Ace CDCHD 989) > 17. Lonnie Mack and the Charmaines - Sticks And Stones Gary Myers: > Apparently this is not the "Memphis" Lonnie Mack? Yes it IS him. The Charmaines and Lonnie were on the same Cincinnati label, Fraternity. He played on some of the their records, and they sang on some of his - sometimes background, sometimes lead. >From the "Girls With Guitars" CD booklet notes: "...As session singers (the Charmaines) were in demand at nearby King Records, where they backed up James Brown and country star Hawshaw Hawkins, and at Fraternity, where the main recipient of their services was "That Memphis Man", Lonnie Mack. The guitarist's version of Ray Charles' 'Sticks And Stones' (heard here), on which the Charmaines supplied all the vocals, was first released on his "Lonnie On The Move" LP in 1976, although it had been in the can for over a decade..." I hear the Charmaines' previously unissued version of Ike & Tina Turner's "I Idolize You" has become a bit of a London rave. It got played at the last Actionettes club night. 'Tis wild! Hey la, Mick Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 14:54:16 +0000 From: Phil X. Milstein Subject: Del Casher Charles Ulrich wrote: > My main obsession is Frank Zappa. But there are numerous connections > between his career and the subject matter of this group, starting > with the session musicians on the first Mothers Of Invention album > (Carol Kaye et al). Have you contacted Del Casher yet? He was a Les Paul protege who played on some Elvis sdtk. sessions, was a member of The 3 Suns, recorded original demonstration records for both Wah-Wah pedals and Ecco-Fonic tape-delay unit, played countless song-poem sessions, and played a couple of the loosely-assembled Mothers (pre-"Of Invention") dates, alongside Van Dyke Parks. Del, a Midwestern "square" in the best sense of the term, was subsequently invited to join the full-blown MoV Zappa was putting together, but ultimately declined. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 00:41:47 EDT From: Al Kooper Subject: Re: Crime Story / The Ventures Me: > When I scored the TV series CRIME STORY in '86/'87, I also was > hired to pick the records played in the show... Mikey: > I remember one time, watching Crime Story and there was a car > chase......and the music behind it was The Ventures "Walk Dont > Run"......and it sounded just GREAT. Was that your idea? Mikey - I can't believe in 42 shows you pulled THAT one out. It's a great story. It was Episode 2 of the first year and it was an unusually long cue at about 7 minutes. The average cue is 45 seconds. There were all kinds of picture/music matchups and I spent most of that week writing an AMAZING car chase sequence. One of my informants called to tell me that the film editor had put Walk Dont Run in there just temporarily but that Michael Mann really liked it. So I called Michael and said that i had put alot of work into that cue and perhaps he should look at it before he fell deeply in love with The Ventures, When you write for TV or film, its a good idea not to get emotionally involved with your music because directors invariably screw with it so grandiosely that a funeral scene you wrote could be used for a sex scene after they've finished "placing" your music. So we had a lil meeting in Mann's office and we watched the seven plus minutes with my music behind it. Six days work. I was instantly encouraged as he let the entire 7 minutes play out. When it ended, I sat there poker-faced and two seconds later Mann said: "Naaaaahhhh!!! I'm gonna go with The Ventures." I loved that piece I wrote so much I ended up putting it on my anthology album RARE & WELL DONE in 2001. It's on the RARE side and it's called The Big Chase just in case someone reading this owns it. So Mikey - I didnt choose The Ventures and I hated it. But I'm encouraged the audience liked it! Al "You Can't Run With A Walker" Kooper -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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