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Spectropop - Digest Number 1445

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Ambrose by Linda Laurie
           From: Dave O'Gara 
      2. Re: Obscure Girl Group Records
           From: John Fox 
      3. Re: Tex and The Chex
           From: (That) Alan Gordon 
      4. "Mr. Lonely"
           From: Mike Edwards 
      5. Girl Groups TOTALLY
           From: Jimmy Crescitelli 
      6. Tandyn Almer & Curt Boettcher
           From: Phil 
      7. Re: Kirby Stone (Four)
           From: Billy G. Spradlin 
      8. Re: Del-Satins
           From: Fred Clemens 
      9. Re: Tex and The Chex
           From: Ed Salamon 
     10. found 'em at Goodwill!
           From: Billy G Spradlin 
     11. Re: Linda Laurie
           From: Gary Myers 
     12. Re: obscure girl group records
           From: Pekka Johansson 
     13. Re: Shangri-Las help
           From: Tony 
     14. Re: obscure girl group records
           From: Jan Kristensen 
     15. Re: Kelly Garrett
           From: Al Kooper 
     16. Re: obscure girl group records
           From: 13 Eagle 
     17. demos by Little Eva
           From: Simon White 
     18. Re: obscure girl group records
           From: Simon White 
     19. Beatle-ettes, Bon Bons and Shangri-Las
           From: Lex Cody 
     20. Re: "Mr. Lonely"
           From: Ken Silverwood 
     21. glaring mistakes
           From: Ken Silverwood 
     22. Re: Tex and The Chex
           From: Hal Muskat 
     23. Re: Tex and The Chex
           From: (That) Alan Gordon 
     24. Re: Ambrose, Pt. 5
           From: Phil X. Milstein 
     25. Re: Obscure girl group records
           From: Frank 

Message: 1 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 22:16:48 -0000 From: Dave O'Gara Subject: Ambrose by Linda Laurie Were there really five versions of Ambrose? The version of Ambrose that got airplay in my neck of the woods featured mostly the girl's voice in a running commentary to "Ambrose" who usually answered anything she said with a line like, "keep walkin!". In the late sixties a fairly well-known Massachusetts DJ named Jeff Starr played a taped version (always late at night) with "his" commentary edited in after Linda's lines. It was a highlight of his show, but he never let on that it was a Linda Laurie record, and as such, the audience was led to believe it was something he dreamed up. Many, many years later, some of us DJ's tried updating the song with a "call and response" format using local names and landmark's in between but, to be honest, it was a pretty lame attempt at "entertainment". Again, still wondering if there was really 5 versions released. Thanks, Dave 0' -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 18:20:16 EDT From: John Fox Subject: Re: Obscure Girl Group Records The Carolines: "Can't Stop Lovin' The Boy". It was originally on the Roulette label and is on the British-released anthology CD, "Run Mascara". Great song/sound, and I'm still trying to find out who was in this group. John Fox -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:30:03 -0700 From: (That) Alan Gordon Subject: Re: Tex and The Chex Hal M.... I was in "Tex and the Chex" from about 1964 to late 65. I do not beleive I was the drummer you met. The band at that time consisted of Rod Bristow, Mike Appel, Everett Jacobs. We had a fun time, the group was playing at the Cinderella Club in the village when two producers saw us, Art Polhemus and Bob Wyld. In the summer of 65, we recorded a song I co-wrote with Jimmy Woods called "An Invitation To Cry". During that session the band split up and Bob and Artie brought in Garry Bonner to sing the lead. Another friend sent Allen Jake Jacobs, who I loved without ever hearing him play, and Jake brought in John Townley. That is the group who turned into the Magicians. Alan, Jake, Garry and John. I never had the pleasure of working with Gary Chester, who I always admired as one of the great session drummers. I have not heard from any of "Tex and The Cex" for many many years, but I will always have fond memories of the time we spent together Hope that clears things up Hal. Best That Alan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 23:32:06 -0000 From: Mike Edwards Subject: "Mr. Lonely" Frank writes of the two versions of "Mr. Lonely", one by Bobby Vinton, the other by Buddy Greco. Is the Buddy Greco version out on CD? If not, I wonder if anyone would be so kind as to sneak it into musica; I've never heard it. Thanks, Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 20:03:47 EDT From: Jimmy Crescitelli Subject: Girl Groups TOTALLY Does anyone have the definitive, all-inclusive, super-comprehensive, ultra Girl-Group list? Just when I thought I'd heard them all (or at least heard of them all)... along come The Termites. THE TERMITES indeed! God help us all. Jimmy Crescitelli PS WCAR Top 3, Week of April 19th.: 1. April Young (and ghost lead)... Gonna Make Him My Baby 2. Sharon Marie... Run-Around Lover 3. Patty Michaels... They're Dancing Now -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 00:41:33 -0000 From: Phil Subject: Tandyn Almer & Curt Boettcher I spent a lot of time with Tandyn & Curt in 1964, when for a few months I shared my Hollywood apartment with Curt, and was turned on to music and other joys there for the first time by Tandyn and Curt. I know that Curt died in 1987, but I wonder if anyone knows where Tandyn is, and how to reach him. I was standing backstage with him at the Troubador the night the Association first played his song 'Along Comes Mary' there. It was a great night! Phil -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 01:21:39 -0000 From: Billy G. Spradlin Subject: Re: Kirby Stone (Four) A great record. I have it. Is it out on CD? If not, if you want I could post it to musica. Wonder why Revola didnt put it on their recent "Night Time Music - The B.T. Puppy" anthology?? Billy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 01:43:50 -0000 From: Fred Clemens Subject: Re: Del-Satins ACJ wrote: > First, about the Del-Satins' "Feeling No Pain": Is this the same > early Burt Bacharach song that our ol' pal Paul Evans once recorded? Before I found and heard Paul's version, I used to think they were the same song. They're not, though he probably could have done a nice rendition of the Del Satins song. Heck, he STILL could do a nice version of the song if he wanted to. And the Del Satins (Les, Fred, and Tom) could back him up on it! Now THAT would be something to hear!! Fred Clemens -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 14:17:45 -0000 From: Ed Salamon Subject: Re: Tex and The Chex That Alan Gordon wrote: > I was in "Tex and the Chex" from about 1964 to late 65. I do not > believe I was the drummer you met. The band at that time consisted > of Rod Bristow, Mike Appel, Everett Jacobs. Alan, We all played Tex & The Chex's "I Do Love You" on Atlantic at the hops in Pittsburgh in the 60s. It was huge, and appears on the CD "Pittsburgh's Favorite Oldies: For Lovers Only" (Itzy 5001). Were you on that record, or was that before your time? Was the Mike Appel yo mention the one of Springsteen fame? I met him when he shared an office with my friend Ted Levan, but I never knew he was in a group that recorded one of my favorite "Pittsburgh oldies". Ed Salamon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 03:43:04 -0000 From: Billy G Spradlin Subject: found 'em at Goodwill! Found these gems at my local Goodwill last week, along with a few I found last year. Any info would be nice: Sugar Cakes -- When I'm With You b/w Chains (a nice update of the Goffin-King classic) Warner Bros/Seven Arts 7293 Teenettes -- Bye Bye Baby b/w Let Me Be The One (both originals) Sandy 250 Gerri Diamond -- Give Up On Love b/w Mama You Told Me Hanna-Barbera HBR 458 And I got a nice kick last week finding a promo copy of Anita Humes' Don't Fight It Baby b/w When Something's Hard To Get, on Roulette. A fine record, with Spectropop involvement. A-side by Van McCoy, B-side by Al Kooper-Levine (Joey). Produced by S. Venent and arranged by A. Butler. Shoulda been a hit. I like it better than her sides with the Essex. Billy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 21:16:18 -0700 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: Linda Laurie Mac Joseph wrote: > ... what is Ambrose, Part 5? Ah, a classic novelty! Charted up to #52 in early 1959 during a nine-wk. run in BB. Linda and her boyfriend Ambrose are walking in the subway; she keeps asking questions and he (male voice reportedly also done by Linda) responds occasionally with "just keep walkin' ", over soft piano backing (maybe Lou Stein?). gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 06:49:58 GMT From: Pekka Johansson Subject: Re: obscure girl group records The "Girls in the Garage" bootleg series on Romulan Records can't be recommended highly enough. Both vol. 1 and 2 are packed with obscure girl music with punch and attitude, much more so than you'll find on your average Reparata or Shirelles compilation. Both sides of my all-time favorite girl group record are on vol. 1: "He's Not There Anymore" b/w "Quite A Reputation" by The Chymes (Chattahootchee, 1966 or 1967 depending on source). If there's anyone on the list who owns this record and is willing to sell ... Best regards, Pekka Johansson Stockholm, Sweden -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 05:37:40 -0000 From: Tony Subject: Re: Shangri-Las help Lex Cody wrote: > I've had some fantastic emails, and it's all helping me to construct > a great Shangri-Las website. If anyone has any odd pic sleeves or can > find unusual/rare images from magazines that can be scanned that'd be > awesome. If you do scan any images please include in the email the > magazine it's from and the date, and most importantly if it's available, > the photographer for credit.!! Hi, I remember that Rolling Stone interview with Mary Weiss Stokes, from '85 I believe. Several former singers were interviewed in that issue (I also remember Dee Dee from the Crystals, the dentist from Every Mother's Son, etc.). Anyhow, Kurt Loder did the brief interview with Mary. It wasn't much -- just about her loving to sing since she was little, her "tough" upbringing, how the Shangri-Las got abysmal royalty rates, how she was an S.F. hippie after the demise of the group -- that's about all I can remember. Oh, the end of the article had something to do (I think) about some of the business problems the group had, and I believe she ended the article by saying something like "... I always walked away..." Sounds like the end of one of her records! I have always heard that Mary really did not like to talk to journalists that have contacted her. But, I recently bumped into Kurt Loder and asked him how he got so lucky -- he said that back then, Ellie Greenwich hooked him up with Mary. But Mary is great with fans that recognize her (like I do) at functions. She is amazed that there is still an interest in the group -- and that people know who she is!! Tony Leong -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 07:55:24 +0200 From: Jan Kristensen Subject: Re: obscure girl group records Jeffery Kennedy wrote: > Maybe a girl group is no longer obscure if it has appeared on a "Girls > in the Garage" bootleg compilation? The Beas track is on one of the > "Girls..." CDs. The Bittersweets track, however, hasn't shown up on > any compilation, as far as I know. I have it on tape, and it's one of > the best Shangri-las ripoffs ever: oodles of eerie atmosphere and bad > attitude. The Bittersweets' "What A Lonely Way To Start The Summertime" can be found on Campark Vocal Groups, vol. 1 boot comp. Jan K -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 21:56:07 EDT From: Al Kooper Subject: Re: Kelly Garrett Phil M wrote: > ...and then this Kelly Garrett, who's got it all goin' on. > She have any success to speak of? Still working, by any chance? I think I played on a Kelly Garrett single, produced by Ray Ellis, called "Tryin' To Win Your Love". Mighta been on Reprise, circa early '60s. Al Kooper -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 03:06:33 -0000 From: 13 Eagle Subject: Re: obscure girl group records A few I like: The Sisters, "Gee Baby Gee" Jeannie & the Big Guys, "I Want You" The Bluebelles, "I've Just Gotta Let Him Know" And not technically groups, but: Dora Hall, "Secret of My Success" Annette, "I'll Never Change Him" (would somebody PLEASE release this on CD -- why was it cut out of the Beach Blanket Bingo DVD?) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 07:00:40 +0100 From: Simon White Subject: demos by Little Eva An enquiry for a friend regarding Little Eva. He asks me to ask the group: "I think she did the demo of "One Fine Day" and it was given to The Chiffons, but on the "Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow" programme on BBC radio, she said that she did the demo for "He's So Fine". Was she confusing the two or did she do the demo for both ? Thanks, Simon Gobble and / or diddle it. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 07:05:10 +0100 From: Simon White Subject: Re: obscure girl group records Unfortuanately my message was edited in a strange way. This part was left out: Bob Rashkow wrote: > Tears Come Tumbling b/w You Won't Be There (both terrific) > Cincinnati's Teardrops on Musicor, 1964/5 I refer to "both tracks" in my posting, but the editing only allows one. I should have put The Teardrops in the title line, I suppose. Simon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 01:45:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Lex Cody Subject: Beatle-ettes, Bon Bons and Shangri-Las Can someone explain to me the link between The Beatle-ettes, Bon Bons and Shangri-Las? I believe they are all the same, as in pre-Shangri-Las. but that's all I know. Has anyone heard the songs they did, were they much like a Shangri-Las song? Are they available anywhere? I'm mystified. Please, some clarity here would be appreciated. Does anyone have any of the singles that were released? If so is it possible to get a pic of the centrepiece on the vinyls? Cheers, Lex -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 11:19:20 +0100 From: Ken Silverwood Subject: Re: "Mr. Lonely" Although not madly keen on Bobby Vinton (excepting "Blue On Blue" and "Blue Velvet"), I often wonder where the song "What Color Is A Man?" came from -- composers, etc.? Own up time! I actually bought my mother "Roses Are Red", but by UK singer Ronnie Carroll in 1962, who at the time was married to Millicent Martin. What a good boy! Ken On The West Coast. (trying to remember how much it cost, was it 6s 8d?) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 12:57:37 +0100 From: Ken Silverwood Subject: glaring mistakes In the last couple of days I have spotted some mistakes which made me look twice. Firstly, in the Jan Berry obit in Record Collector mag of May 2004, everything is fine until after the crash, then we find he went on to design album covers for the Beach Boys, Nilsson and Nitty Gritty Dirt Band. I always thought Dean Torrence (of Kittyhawk Productions) did those. Then, after watching The Beatles First US Visit DVD, as the credits were rolling I learned that it was The Isley Brothers who'd written "Twist And Shout", not Medley/Russell as I had always believed. WWHHAATT!! Doesn't anyone proofread this stuff? I was then sorting through a box of Beatle 45s, and stopped when I saw that the composer credits for "From Me To You" on the Parlophone release were for McCartney/Lennon. I saw a Carribean island beckoning me, until I searched and found that it was not a mistake this time. Ah well, back to work! Ken On The West Coast. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 08:48:14 -0700 From: Hal Muskat Subject: Re: Tex and The Chex Thanks Alan, Thanks for the get back. Hi Ed, Clears up some, but then it doesn't. . . When I saw the band last, Tex was still there. What happened to him and the other guys? I'd guess you joined the band after "I Do Love You." I think I remembered that my birthday party the band attended was in '65, which may have put you in my living room, but could easily have been '63. Esp if Tex was out of the band by '64-65. I was there. I don't remember.- And, I don't remember names, was Rod, Mike and Everett in the original Tex & The Chex and what became of Tex? & Ed, I believe Alan would say "yes" to Mike Appel and Springsteen. I read somewhere he was an early mgr. . .so this is what you do eh? hang out on esoteric lists. . . Re Gary Chester: Many certainly believe he is one sideman who belongs in the Rock Hall of Fame. (16,000+ sessions & a credit list that is incredible!) Anyone wishing to assist in efforts in achieving this recognition is welcomed. cheers, Hal "Phoenix" Muskat -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 08:51:58 -0700 From: (That) Alan Gordon Subject: Re: Tex and The Chex Ed..I was not in the group that made the record you mentioned. Yes that is the same Mike Appel who worked with Springsteen. I think Rod Bristow was in the original Tex and the Chex, but to be honest with you I can't say for sure. He had to be though to be able to use the name, and he was the front man and lead vocalist. Best, That Alan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 12:47:58 +0000 From: Phil X. Milstein Subject: Re: Ambrose, Pt. 5 Dave O'Gara wrote: > Were there really five versions of Ambrose? No, just the one, unless you want to count Linda's follow-up release, "Forever Ambrose." Gary Myers wrote: > Ah, a classic novelty! Charted up to #52 in early 1959 during a nine-wk. > run in BB. Linda and her boyfriend Ambrose are walking in the subway; she > keeps asking questions and he (male voice reportedly also done by Linda) > responds occasionally with "just keep walkin'," over soft piano backing > (maybe Lou Stein?). The Game Show Network not long ago reran an episode of one of the What's My Line/To Tell The Truth/I've Got A Secret cycle of shows (can never keep those three sorted out), in which Linda Laurie appeared alongside a pair of Linda Laurie imposters. During the "reveal" segment after the game itself was finished, she leaned into her mic and demonstrated how, with no studio gimmickry, she did the Ambrose voice herself. Pretty impressive grit & depth to the delivery, especially for a high school chick. I tried it myself as I watched, and was just about coughing up blood from the larynx strain. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 10:12:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Subject: Re: Obscure girl group records If you allow obscure B-sides and album tracks by more prominent artists, here's five of my favorites off the top of my head: The Chantels - I'm The Girl (with that "Junior Prom Of The Dead" groove that I love so much) Julie & The Desires - Kiss And Tell (early Sloan/Barri effort, with one of my all-time favorite bad arrangements. That bass clarinet is SO not right for the tune & genre!) Darlettes - Here She Comes (knockout Ellie Greenwich gem - shoulda-been-a-hit!) Best, Frank -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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