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Spectropop - Digest Number 1423



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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: UK Oriole
           From: Ray Lincoln 
      2. Re: The Portraits
           From: Gary Myers 
      3. Re: commercial uses ... now "Blowin' In the Wind"?
           From: Andrew C. Jones 
      4. Re: Timi Yuro
           From: James Botticelli 
      5. Re: commercial uses
           From: Clark Besch 
      6. Re: Hothouse Smiles
           From: Gary Myers 
      7. Re: commercial uses ... now "Blowin' in the Wind"?
           From: Artie Wayne 
      8. Re: commercial uses ... now "Blowin' in the Wind"?
           From: Art Longmire 
      9. Re: Uptown Harley Hatcher
           From: Joe Foster 
     10. Re: Larry Carlton / Wenzel's / Uptown
           From: Gary Myers 
     11. Re: Timi Yuro
           From: Eddie Rambeau 
     13. Re: Since I Fell For You
           From: Steve Harvey 
     14. Re: Since I Fell For Since I Fell For You
           From: James Botticelli 
     15. Beatlefest in Secaucus
           From: Fred Clemens 
     16. Re: Manhattan label
           From: Joe Foster 
     17. Cartridge controversy continues ...
           From: Austin Powell 
     18. Re: Larry Knechtel
           From: Doug Carey 
     19. mo' commercial potent
           From: Steve Harvey 
     20. Re: The Portraits
           From: Gary Myers 
     21. Re: Since I Fell For You
           From: Clark Besch 
     22. Jerry Tawney discog
           From: Gary Myers 
     23. Shindig March Reviews Now Up
           From: Jon 'Mojo' Mills 
     24. Various
           From: Country Paul 
     25. The Ronettes & Chubby Checker @ Cameo-Parkway
           From: Mick Patrick 


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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 01:10:48 +0100 From: Ray Lincoln Subject: Re: UK Oriole Oriole had early hits with jazz and skiffle records. In the '60s the label became more pop and soul oriented, and in fact in 1962 and '63 held the licensing arrangements for Tamla Motown in the UK. Oriole label: CBA1809 I Found A Girl/You'll Be Sorry Some Day Valadiers March 1963 CBA1775 I Found Myself A Brand New Baby/It's Too Bad Mike & Modifiers Oct 1962 CBA1808 If It's Love (It's All Right) /It's Not Too Late Eddie Holland March 1963 CBA1817 Locking Up My Heart/Forever Marvelettes March 1963 CBA1819 Come And Get These Memories/Jealous Lover Martha & Vandellas April 1963 CBA1764 Beechwood 4-5789/Someday Someway Marvelettes Sept 1962 CBA1795 You've Really Got A Hold On Me/Happy Landing Miracles Jan 1962 CBA1831 Don't Let Him Be Your Baby/It May Be Love Contours May 1963 CBA1803 Stubborn Kind Of Fellow/It Hurt Me Too Marvin Gaye Feb 1963 CBA1846 Pride & Joy/One Of These Days Marvin Gaye July 1963 CBA1762 You Beat Me To The Punch/Old Love (Let's Try It Again) Mary Wells Sept 1962 CBA1829 Laughing Boy/Two Wrongs Don't Make a Right Mary Wells May 1963 CBA1847 Your Old Stand By/What Love Has Joined Together Mary Wells July 1963 ray -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 21:38:37 -0800 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: The Portraits previously: > Can you tell me which two soundtracks have the additional songs on them? We have a filler song (not used in the movie) on "Dr. Goldfoot & the Girl Bombs", under the name Paul & The Pack. That was pre-Tawney. Paul is Paul Stefan, who some collectors might recognize from "I Fought The Law" on Citation, and/or "Hey Lonely One" on Cite. Then, as Jerry & The Portraits we have the vocal version of "Devil's Angels" (and if anyone has the Tower promo single of it, I'm interested!). > ... do you by any chance have copies of the unreleased songs? I think I have some things on reel-to-reel (how old is THAT!), with, presently, no way to transfer them to anything else. I'm blown away that there are two people in here who have my records! gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 23:29:23 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew C. Jones Subject: Re: commercial uses ... now "Blowin' In the Wind"? Artie: I haven't seen or heard that commercial, but I flat-out agree with you. I thought Mr. Dylan never allowed his songs to be used in commercials; it's a (bleepin') shame if he is now. ACJ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 12:38:04 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Timi Yuro > Oldies fans throughout the world are mourning the loss of Timi Yuro. Anecdotally, my sister-in-law went into Manhattan one night the summer before last to carouse, and ran into Timi Yuro at a bar. My sister-in-law had no clue as to who the woman was; she hadn't even been born when Timi's biggest hits were out. But she was convinced that I would know, and got Timi to autograph the sleeve of her new CD for me. My sister-in-law tells me Timi was suffering from cancer at the time. JB -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 19:28:30 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Re: commercial uses Artie Wayne wrote: > Am I the only one angry that one of the most important songs of our > generation has been turned into a commercial? The way Miller is using actual Bud bottles to show women prefer Miller over Bud surprises me. Maybe Bold should use "Leader of the Laundromat" against Tide! "My folks were always putting Tide down (down down), because the laundry came back brown (brown brown)". What say to that, Ron Dante? :) Besides, the Doors used Ajax laundry detergent in reverse -- a hit song using a commercial!! "Stronger than dirt, new Ajax laundry deteregent is stronger than dirt". ("Touch Me", of course). Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 21:21:23 -0800 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: Hothouse Smiles Mark Wirtz wrote: > ... my own Capitol album "Hothouse Smiles," ... which Cashbox > honored as "album of the year" in 1974. Mark, forgive my ignorance, but was that under your name or a band name? gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 14:26:45 -0800 (PST) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: commercial uses ... now "Blowin' in the Wind"? I wrote: > Am I the only one angry that one of the most important songs of our > generation has been turned into a commercial? > "How many times can we do our wash before the whites turn to grey? > And how many times can we dry our clothes 'til colors all fade away? > The answer my friend is Blowin' in the Wind > New Tide Blowin' in the Wind!!" > Outraged, I forgot to add ... APRIL FOOL!!! I guess there's no point in asking if anyone has seen Bob Dylan in the Victorias' Secret TV commercial. Who would believe that???? regards, Artie Wayne http://artiewayne.com/ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 23:58:25 -0000 From: Art Longmire Subject: Re: commercial uses ... now "Blowin' in the Wind"? Artie Wayne wrote: > Am I the only one angry that one of the most important songs of > our generation has been turned into a commercial? Hello Artie, I haven't heard that one yet, but I was startled the other day when I saw Bob Dylan appearing in a Victoria's Secret commercial. I'd heard him singing on an earlier Victoria's Secret commercial, but to actually see him make an appearance in one was rather astonishing. I've got to say that regarding the use of songs in commercials, the context and presentation really make the difference -- I've seen some commercials that were very well done, and some use songs in very effective and artistically effective ways, while others are nothing but crass rip-offs. The commercial you mentioned sounds like it belongs in the latter category. I'm sure some of us can still remember the time the Beatles' "Revolution" was used to sell shoes ... I'm still ticked off about that one! By the way, I LIKE the Dylan Victoria's Secret commercial. Art Longmire -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 20:42:31 +0100 From: Joe Foster Subject: Re: Uptown Harley Hatcher Gary Myers wrote: > Uptown and Sidewalk were both subsids of Tower, and I guess > were manufactured by Capitol. I think Uptown dealt mostly > with Soul/R&B, but I'm not an expert by any means. I have a vague memory there were some Chocolate Watchband singles on Uptown, too. ... Harley Hatcher, now *there's* a character! Joe -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 10:39:15 -0800 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: Larry Carlton / Wenzel's / Uptown previously: > I had the great pleasure of working with Larry on a number of projects ... > with Larry Carlton's guitar ... I played with Larry Carlton most of the summer of '67 -- at a topless after- hours beer bar (!) while I was working 6 nights a week with the Portraits. Larry (C) played on one of our unreleased sessions. > I just read the post about Wenzel's record store closing ... Is there > a story behind their closing? Tom & Maxine decided it was time to retire. Yes, I was very sorry to hear about their closing, too. And, I didn't hear about it until after the fact, so I missed out on any closing sale ... and I live only about 2 miles from the store. They used to sell some of my stuff on consignment. > ... interesting records on the Uptown label ... The Sugar Lumps, Won't > You Help Me (Uptown 735), written by Harley Hatcher and also recorded > by the Paris Sisters on their Sidewalk "Golden Hits Of The Paris Sisters" > LP ... I didn't know about that one. Maybe there was more of a connection between the two labels, or maybe it was just the Hatcher connection on that particular song. gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 12:46:42 EST From: Eddie Rambeau Subject: Re: Timi Yuro I would like to offer my condolences to all those who adored Timi Yuro. I had the distinct pleasure of working with her in Pittsburgh, and I can remember a wonderful time we had driving in the back seat to do one of Pittsburgh's American Bandstand type shows. We laughed, we sang, and I truly believed that she was one of the most talented singers on the face of the planet. As a matter of fact, till today I still have as many Timi Yuro songs in my iPod as I've been able to find. Her rendition of "The 13th Hour" will forever remain one of my favorites. I've also always been a huge fan of Brenda Lee's and always thought that Timi and Brenda had a similar quality, yet you could still always tell them apart. There are so many Timi Yuro songs that I will treasure and continue to listen to, and my favorites are much too numerous to mention. She was a truly gifted singer, with a voice that keeps me in awe. I carry my iPod everywhere I go, and so she will be with me always. I love and will miss you, Timi. May God bless you, your family, fans and friends. In fond memory, Eddie Rambeau -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 15:50:56 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Re: Since I Fell For You Mike Rashkow wrote: > I hope I didn't communicate that I thought Ella's was better. It is > totally different. As you know, she swings the blues and Lenny > cried his heart out. Mike, No, I was merely asking your opinion of Ella's version. The obit seemed to make out that her version was even better than his take. I'd find it hard to believe that anybody could top Lenny Welch's performance. A classic instance of a brilliant performance being caught on tape. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 12:42:15 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Since I Fell For Since I Fell For You Mike Rashkow wrote: > I absolutely love Lenny Welch's record. One of my all time faves. Great > chart and most interestingly -- he does the verse. How odd is that for a > pop hit? Cadence was a great label. Archie Bleyer had exquisite taste. Laura Lee did a credible early 70's cover of same, and laid a nice rap on the intro to boot ... JB -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 23:47:24 -0000 From: Fred Clemens Subject: Beatlefest in Secaucus I was just wondering if anyone on board will be in attendance at the Beatlefest in Secaucus, NJ, over this weekend (Friday, Saturday and Sunday). Original Beatle drummer Pete Best is scheduled to be there all three days. I think I *might* be able to make it there on Sunday. I know that WCBS-FM's Bob Shannon will be there on Sunday to host a Beatles quiz/game on Sunday at 2pm. Fred Clemens http://www.bobshannon.com -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 23:29:25 +0100 From: Joe Foster Subject: Re: Manhattan label Martin Roberts wrote: > PS Whilst hunting for the 45 I stumbled on a single from the Manhattan > label, best known for soul girl Lydia Marcelle. And the credits on all these? > Sidewalk Productions & Harley Hatcher, but dist. by Dover Records ... > more queries! I used to have some singles on Manhattan: The Painted Faces: Anxious Color/Things We See (Manhattan 803) I Think I'm Going Mad/I Lost You In My Mind (Manhattan 811) Don't Say She's Gone/In The Heat Of The Night (Manhattan 818) Apparently something of a tax loss operation, Manhattan still exists as an EMI/Capitol subsid. Mostly jazz nowadays. I think they just kept the name, along with Angel Records, another Curb thing. Joe -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 21:23:41 +0100 From: Austin Powell Subject: Cartridge controversy continues ... Am I missing something here? Joel Whitburn's Billboard Top Pop Singles book lists Flip Cartridge as being (William) Billy Meshel, born: Brooklyn, later an exec at Ariola America Records. Not (Skip &) Flip! Austin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 17:47:50 -0800 From: Doug Carey Subject: Re: Larry Knechtel I've mentioned this before on a separate thread, but Larry Knechtel lives in my town of Yakima, Washington. Apparently, he and his wife relocated here from the Eastside (Seattle-ish) a couple of years ago. Our local news did a feature on him about a month ago, and he started playing around at some of our very few night spots. Perhaps those of you who know him will be able to let me know if it would be intrusive of me to approach him about sitting down to talk about his work. I'm a music teacher in town, but I don't know if that would carry any weight. I don't want to offend him, just pick his brain. Doug -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 15:46:11 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: mo' commercial potent Artie Wayne wrote: > Am I the only one angry that one of the most important songs of our > generation has been turned into a commercial? That's even worse than the bandage company that uses "It's Alright Ma, I'm Only Bleeding" for their commercials. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 21:43:14 -0800 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: The Portraits > "Million To One" -- did you have the effrontery to cover the Five > Satins' Ember 45? No, we did an up-tempo remake of the Jimmy Charles hit. > Recorded 'straight', or ala the Four Seasons? I guess I'd say it's a little bit Buckinghams-like. I think you asked me to mention the Mojo Men, too. (I could probably talk for hours about this stuff ). That was our Milwaukee band that came to SoCal in '65. We had a 1964 release on Tide as Tommy Hahn & the Mojo Men, and we eventually had to change our name because of the SF Mojo Men, although we think we had the name first. I'm happy to supply any details of interest. gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 05:42:28 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Re: Since I Fell For You Rashkovsky: > I absolutely love Lenny Welch's record. One of my all time faves. > Great chart and most interestingly -- he does the verse. How odd > is that for a pop hit? Cadence was a great label. Archie Bleyer > had exquisite taste. Ditto Di la! Emotion is the best word for that incredible song! And when I heard this in incredible stereo, I realized there could be great stereo in those early stereo years! One of the best SOUNDING songs of the early 60's and one of the best performances too! Two mints in one!! Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 23:21:43 -0800 From: Gary Myers Subject: Jerry Tawney discog As requested: Jerry Tawney Discography by Gary E. Myers Liberty 55892 Funny Man/Run To The Door 6/66 Tower Devil's Angels/---- (Jerry & Portraits) 6/67 Sidewalk 928 Let's Tell The World/A Million To One (Portraits) 9/6 Sidewalk 935 Over The Rainbow/Runaround Girl (Portraits) 12/67 Dunhill SPD-12 Blue Monday/same (Rock & Roll Revival) /69 Capitol 2957 Down To The Wire/God Knows I Love You (Yellow Hand) 10/70 Bell 45144 Lady Faith/same (DJ only) 10/71 Bell 45194 Soft Spoken Girl/Dusty Roads 3/72 Bell 45242 It's Over/Sunny, Sunny 7/72 Bell 45289 Woman Child/---- 11/72 Bell 45315 Don't Take Away The Music/Junk (Posse) 1/73 Bell 45333 Turn On The Radio/Cross Country Train 3/73 Mercury 73976 Turn On The Radio/Bad Night In Dixie (Glory) 5/78 LP's: Tower 5074 Devil's Angels (Jerry & Portraits, Various Artists) 6/67 Dunhill 50059 Great Oldies Done Hear And Now (Rock & Roll Revival) /69 Capitol 549 Yellow Hand (Yellow Hand) /70 Notes: Most successful: Bell 45315, 45194 Unrelated Posse: Janus (Tawney was not involved in Bell 45370 or 45473) I believe Jerry's biggest writing succes was a song on Al Wilson's "La La Peace Song" LP - don't know the title off hand. gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 11:01:46 +0100 From: Jon 'Mojo' Mills Subject: Shindig March Reviews Now Up http://www.shindig-magazine.com/reviews.html Well how do you do? Apologies for having such a small amount of reviews up for March (and late too!) ... we'll make up for it this month with lots of cool new (and not-so-new) releases given the once over... so watch your inbox for notification. Reviewed this month:- THE JACKIE FOUNTAINS SIMON TURNER V/A Grains of Time V/A Hallucinations: Psychedelic Pop Nuggets From The WEA Vaults V/A Just For Kicks V/A Teen Blast USA: #1 & #2 THE A-SIDES THE EMBROOKS THE GENTLEKIN THE HYPNOMEN JANUARY THE MAHARAJAS .. and more -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 01:52:47 -0500 From: Country Paul Subject: Various Martin's summary of the S'pop party in London has left me envious that I didn't break open the piggy bank and come on over. If it was even half as good as his writing and write-up, it would have to have been fantastic. Next time.... And Martin, the only connection I know of between Sidewalk and Uptown is that both were distributed by Capitol Records. Simon White: > Thanks to those who replied on my Flip Cartridge/Gary Le Mel > postings. I had no idea that Flip was part of Flip and Skip, but > then I have no real idea who Flip & Skip where anyway. I suspect > they are outside my immediate area of interest! Skip & Flip (Gary "Flip" Paxton and Clyde "Skip" Battin) had a huge record with "It Was I" - sort of Jan & Deanish duet, very creative, very LA-sounding and sunshiny. Their other big hit (both went to #11 on the US charts) was their cover of Marvin & Johnny's "Cherry Pie." Paxton is probably best known for his version (with the Hollywood Argyles) of "Alley Oop" and his work with numerous 60's groups; Battin is most famous for being one of the first replacement members of The Byrds. A brief but thorough bio can be found at http://tinyurl.com/2ww4r So are they in your area of interest? Your call. > Having said that, did people ever buy by label? Depends - not that I ever ran out to see what the latest Vee Jay release was, but certain labels had reputations which encouraged either taking a chance or shunning them. This was particularly true when browsing through bargain bins. Grab anything on Sun, Philles, Jamie (for quite a while), VeeJay (usually), Elektra albums in their first few years of rock, and several others; certain other labels were probably not going to be satisfying. Anyway, that's how I did it.... Previously [actually, me]: > Googling Browning Bryant, I have learned he was born in Pickens, SC, > was a child movie star, and is still recording to some degree. Rashkovsky: > Does he still live in Pickens? That's not far from me. I could look > him up and get him to autograph my copy of One Time In A Million--and > maybe he would want me to autograph his copy since (not to make a lot > out of it) I happened to write it with with the invaluable assistance > of Ms. Ellie Greenwich. You may be able to find out in the discussion group devoted to him. He also participates in it and seems to post fairly frequently. Phil Hall; > Thanks so much to Ray, Tony & Austin for their Reparata & The Delrons > updates. They are one of my top five or ten favorite girl groups, > and they have to have the greatest girl-group name of all time (Hey, > that could be a contest!). Hopefully someone can persuade them to > join us in this nostalgic madness. Seconded thanks from here, too. I recently pulled out my Reparata & The Delrons Greatest Hits CD (apparently one of several) and was struck by how widely varied and highly musical their ouevre is. And it'd be great if one or more of them would join S'pop, although I tend to think of this group as people with a current interest in music history and an ongoing enthusiasm for the style, rather than a nostalgia trip. Not a put-down - just my opinion. Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 11:25:59 +0100 From: Mick Patrick Subject: The Ronettes & Chubby Checker @ Cameo-Parkway Me: > ...test pressing of Disc Four from ABKCO's forthcoming Cameo- > Parkway box set...Every one of the 25 tracks is previously > unissued...current favourites are: The Ronettes "(Whoa, Whoa) > I Love Him So" and "Hot Spot". Chubby wrote these two songs... I forgot to add APRIL FOOL! I received no such CD. Sorry. HA! According to some of the folk who responded off list, I am ... "you bugger", "a demon", "a total shit", "a complete and utter bastard" and worse. Their point being? Hey la, Mick Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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