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Spectropop - Digest Number 1414

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Silver
           From: Bill George 
      2. The Six Teens
           From: Phil Hall 
      3. Re: Gary Le Mel
           From: C. Ponti 
      4. Re: Bob Crewe at Musica
           From: Frank 
      5. Re: Larry Knechtal
           From: Mike Rashkow 
      6. New Neil Sedaka Yahoo Group
           From: Dan White 
      7. Copyrighting riffs
           From: Gary Myers 
      8. Thanks
           From: Gary Myers 
      9. Re: On Any Sunday - Soundtrack?
           From: Frank 
     10. Secret Schwartz
           From: Al Kooper 
     11. Plagiarism
           From: Al Kooper 
     12. Jan Berry R.I.P.
           From: Laura Pinto 
     13. Jan Berry Dies at 62
           From: Neb Rodgers 
     14. Monkees / Aretha
           From: Bob Rashkow 
     15. Re; "Take A Girl Like You" Soundtrack
           From: Ray 
     16. Jan Berry R.I.P.
           From: S.J. Dibai 
     17. Re: Cameo-Parkway subsidiary labels
           From: S.J. Dibai 
     18. Re: Cameo-Parkway and ABKCO
           From: S.J. Dibai 
     19. Re: Cameo-Parkway / Chubby Checker
           From: S.J. Dibai 
     20. California Dreamin' TV Special
           From: Mark Hill 
     21. Jan Berry R.I.P.
           From: Country Paul 
     22. Re: Mary Ann Fisher & Margie Hendricks
           From: Mike Rashkow 
     23. Re: Jan Berry R.I.P.
           From: Joe Nelson 
     24. Jan Berry R.I.P.
           From: Steve Harvey 
     25. Best Wishes
           From: Mike Rashkow 

Message: 1 Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 00:57:29 EST From: Bill George Subject: Silver I have an album for the 70s by a group called Silver. I had it on a cassette (transferred it) so there wasn't any information included. The only thing I know is that Brent Mydland (of the Grateful Dead) was in the band. Does anyone have any more information? Who was in the band, etc? And does anyone have their second LP? I really like them. Soft harmony pop somewhere in between America and The Eagles. Thanks for any help. Bill -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 15:38:19 -0000 From: Phil Hall Subject: The Six Teens Al Kooper wrote: > Are The Six-Teens still alive?????????? Al, According to "They have since regrouped (whatever that means) and performed on the doo wop circuit, releasing a CD of new recordings on Lacoriha Records, The Six Teens Greatest Hits". And Ace Records has released a CD of their recordings entitled "A Casual Look: The Flip Recordings", which is still available. Phil H. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 03:44:08 -0000 From: C. Ponti Subject: Re: Gary Le Mel Simon White: > Can anyone give any info on Gary Le Mel... Ray: > Gary LeMel, president of Worldwide Music, Warner Bros. Pictures > Gary LeMel has overseen some of Warner Bros.'s most successful > soundtracks including Singles, The Matrix and The Bodyguard... Ray Babes....and if you listen to any of "Lost In Your Arms" you'll understand why it was a really good idea on Gary's part years ago to go into the business side of the industry.... C Pont -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 11:41:22 +0100 From: Frank Subject: Re: Bob Crewe at Musica Tom Taber: > "Bob Crewe Part 2" is now available at Musica. Do you think it's > too late to enter the contest? Tom, thanks for posting this gem. I think the contest is still running. Or has anybody seen the LP with a picture and a biography of the winner on its back cover? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 20:22:51 EST From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Re: Larry Knechtal Previously: > I'll always remember (Larry Knechtal) for "the best ever rock > n roll piano solo" (tm) on Duane Eddy's "You Are My Sunshine" > back in '59. How about Bridge Over Troubled Water? Rashkovsky -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 04:32:38 -0000 From: Dan White Subject: New Neil Sedaka Yahoo Group We Invite everyone here to join our great Decade site called Neil Sedaka and the 60s, 70s, 1980-85. We are a free group to join: Thanks, Dan White -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 21:54:34 -0800 From: Gary Myers Subject: Copyrighting riffs Previously: > ... Billy Ocean's "Carribean Queen", itself a "Billie Jean" rewrite. > If Michael Jackson needs cash he could easily sue Billy Ocean Not really. It's the melody that is copyrighted, not the arrangement, bass line, intro, etc. The closest thing I ever heard to a lawsuit on something like that was when the writers of "Speedy Gonzalez" tried to sue for the "la la" stuff on "Crocodile Rock." I never heard the outcome, but I doubt that they had a real case, for the same reason I mention above. gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 22:09:24 -0800 From: Gary Myers Subject: Thanks Previously: > By the way, welcome to S'pop. That's a nice "Over The Rainbow" > you have on musica Thanks very much, for both the welcome and the comment. gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 14:51:11 +0100 From: Frank Subject: Re: On Any Sunday - Soundtrack? Sean: > I saw the 1971 documetrary film all about motorcycle racing late > last night, and was wondering if this was ever released as a > soundtrack? And if yes, where can I find it on CD? LP? It's very > groovy and very reminisent of our Mark Wirtz Mood Mosaic stuff! :) Sean, you´ll find it only on vinyl. It was released on Bell Records (Bell 1206). BMG should own the rights to it but I I once requested a track from it for a soundtrack compilation and they couldn´t find any contracts. It´s as funky as the Wrecking Crew ever got. We have surprisingly Larry Bunker on drums (who does a great job) but the rest is in the usual position: Tommy Tedesco and Dennis Budimir on guitar, Carol Kaye on bass, Mike Melvoin on organ and Emil Richards on percussion to name a few. Lyrics for the title song were written by Sally Stevens. She sings and also does some vocalising with a chorus featuring John Bahler among others. BTW the music is written by Dominic Frontiere. A great record but hard to find at bargain prices nowadays. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 09:10:10 EST From: Al Kooper Subject: Secret Schwartz Previously: > [Goldmine] issue #264, 09 /7/90, about the Tide/Edit labels (for > which I also recorded). Thanks for your interest. > > You're welcome. With The Portraits? By the way, welcome to S'pop. > That's a nice "Over The Rainbow" you have on musica - very "seasonal!" > > Re: Mary Ann Fisher, she had a 45 on Seg-Way (same label as The Echoes, > of "Baby Blue" fame). Anyone remember the title? There may be a secret Schwartz thing goin' on 'cause Melvin Schwartz wrote Baby Blue & also Baby Talk (this may be a senior moment. I KNOW he wrote Baby Talk but I think he wrote Baby Blue). Al "THESE aint the faboulous sixties" Kooper -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 09:13:41 EST From: Al Kooper Subject: Plagiarism > there's Billy Ocean's "Carribean Queen", itself a "Billie Jean" > rewrite.  If Michael Jackson needs cash he could easily sue Billy > Ocean, like the Isleys succesfully sued Michael Bolton or when Huey > Lewis took Ray Parker, Jr. to court over "Ghostbusters" sounding too > much like "I Want a New Drug"!   So much for originality......  I don't think it went down, but whoever wrote Lulu's Back In Town could EASILY sue David Clayton Thomas for Spinning Wheel AND Randy Newman for Bet No One Ever Hurt This Bad....check it out y'all !!! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 18:43:47 -0000 From: Laura Pinto Subject: Jan Berry R.I.P. Hi S'poppers, Sad news about Jan Berry from Jan and Dean, who has passed away a week shy of his 63rd birthday of an apparent stroke. Laura -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 13:04:30 -0800 (PST) From: Neb Rodgers Subject: Jan Berry Dies at 62 Subject: Yahoo! News Story - Jan & Dean Singer Berry Dies at 62: Entertainment - AP Music Jan & Dean Singer Berry Dies at 62 By ROBERT JABLON, Associated Press Writer LOS ANGELES - Jan Berry, a member of the duo Jan & Dean that had the 1960s surf-music hits "Deadman's Curve" and "Little Old Lady from Pasadena," has died. He was 62. Berry had a seizure and stopped breathing Friday at his home. He was pronounced dead that evening at a hospital, said his wife, Gertie Berry. He had been in poor health recently from the lingering effects of brain damage from a 1966 car crash. Jan & Dean had a string of hits and 10 gold records in the 1960s with their tales of Southern California. Among them were 1964's "The Little Old Lady from Pasadena," about a hotrod racing grandma, and "Surf City," with its lines about taking the station wagon to a place where there are "two girls for every boy." With Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys, William Jan Berry co-wrote the lyrics for "Surf City" and "Deadman's Curve," which featured the driving guitar icks andfalsetto crooning of the wildly popular surf music. Berry's hit-making career with high school friend Dean Torrence was cut short in 1966 when Berry's speeding Corvette hit a parked truck and he suffered severe brain damage that left him partially paralyzed and unable to talk. His recovery was slow, but eventually he was able to resume singing and writing songs. In addition to his wife, Berry is survived by his parents, William and ClaraBerry of Camarillo; three brothers and three sisters. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 16:18:22 EST From: Bob Rashkow Subject: Monkees / Aretha Phil, I'll tackle 2 of your queries and welcome similar or differing opinions: My take on a Monkees' "Sugar, Sugar" is that they would have either a) switched the lyric to "You're gonna make (me feel? my life?) so sweet" (and, no doubt, have Davy croon it) or b) got Ellie Greenwich, Toni Wine, Diane Hildebrand, Carole Bayer, Cynthia Weil or Carole King (or fill in the blank!) to sing the line. I don't actually recall any Monkee tunes in which women joined in or sang back-up--were there any? I never heard their last 2 or 3 Colgems LPs (only certain cuts from them) after "The Birds, The Bees & The Monkees" in their entirety. I don't know the whole story about how Aretha Franklin broke onto the R&B scene from first gospel and then pop, but most likely Ahmed Ertegun or whoever was in charge at Atlantic around '65 or so picked up on her amazing voice and offered her the recording contract with them. At a certain point if I'm not mistaken Aretha left her native Detroit and settled, as many top recording artists eventually do, in Los Angeles (or NYC--or both!!??) I do agree with Phil that it was just as well if not better that Motown didn't reach her first. Her style is very distinctive and much of her soul from the late 6Ts and early 7Ts is influenced by jazz, rock, blues, gospel, pop......and please pitch in if I left any influences out! Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 21:45:20 -0000 From: Ray Subject: Re; "Take A Girl Like You" Soundtrack Sean: > Does any know where I can find a copy of the 1970 Soundtrack LP to > the film "Take A Girl Like You"? Ray -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 22:54:27 -0000 From: S.J. Dibai Subject: Jan Berry R.I.P. Hello, Spectropoppers. I just read the sad news that Jan Berry died on Friday night at the age of 62. You can see the full story here: I always admired this guy's determination. He fought long and hard to overcome the effects of his accident the best he could. Since Jan & Dean's appearance on "At The Drive-In" was billed as part of their farewell tour, at least Jan got to say a formal goodbye before this life's end. Rest in peace, Jan. S.J. Dibai -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 23:02:18 -0000 From: S.J. Dibai Subject: Re: Cameo-Parkway subsidiary labels Previously: > A topic that should be discussed for the box set, since they did > have some of the most colorful and creative labels. So far, I have > found the following C/P subs: Wyncote (their budget label), Lucky > Eleven, Sentar, Windy C, Vando, Fairmount, Winchester, Key-Loc, and > Cheltenham. Hmmm........I know Wyncote (an amusing budget label--no Sunset, that's for sure!), Lucky Eleven (guilty of giving Terry Knight an outlet), Sentar (New Colony Six territory!), Windy C (Curtis Mayfield's frist label, right?), and Winchester (which released The Tymes' Philly soul classic "This Time It's Love"--groovy baby!). But please.......enlighten me about the others, especially Cheltenham. This would seem to be another label that was named after something in the Philly area. Like Wyncote was named after a Philly suburb. What was Cheltenham named after? Cheltenham Avenue? Cheltenham Township?? Cheltenham Turnpike??? (Did I make that last one up? I'm from Philly but I don't drive!) S.J. Dibai -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 23:11:44 -0000 From: S.J. Dibai Subject: Re: Cameo-Parkway and ABKCO Clark Besch: > Watched Bob Seger get inducted into the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame > last week on VH1. Sad to say that due to Allan Klein, his true > rock n roll best is still unavailable. You think that Capitol > stuff was good? You ain't heard Bob Seger rock for real until you > hear the Cameo (Hideout originally) stuff!! That's what I want to > hear first from these vaults. Funny you should mention that. I was listening to the Spencer Davis Group last night, and it occurred to me just how much "Heavy Music" resembles "Gimme Some Lovin'"--repetitive bass line, shouting soul- rock vocals, incessant maracas, bouyant cowbell.....and Seger even screams "Stevie Winwood got nothin' on me!" at the end of "Heavy Music Part Two." At any rate, Seger's Cameo material is awesome! It is in the proud and true tradition of Michigan garage rock, and "East Side Story" is one of the most gloriously gritty pieces of lyrical wizardry I've ever heard. Not to deviate too much from the "pop" focus of this group, but I must reference The Caretakers' rather lackluster cover from the same era, apparently produced by Seger's buddy Doug Brown, in which the lead singer totally eschews any mention of "Johnny" from the lyrics! How dare they, that's part of the melodrama!!!! If anyone can verify Seger's claim that The Underdogs recorded "East Side Story" originally and that their version sucked, please contact me off-list. Thanks. S.J. Dibai -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 23:19:02 -0000 From: S.J. Dibai Subject: Re: Cameo-Parkway / Chubby Checker Larry Lapka: > By the way, my son loves Chubby Checker. My son is eight years > old. If that isn't reason enough to put out a legitimate CD of > Chubby's hits, I don't know what is. Well, Larry, I won't hold that against your son. Just kidding! Despite his mediocre singing, I enjoy many of Chubby's records, especially "The Class" and "Loddy Lo." However, someone ought to keep his ego in is a link to a two-year-old story from the Philadelphia Weekly (one of those free weeklies) which shows just what I mean: No, this article is NOT an April Fool's joke. S.J. Dibai -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 21:11:18 -0500 From: Mark Hill Subject: California Dreamin' TV Special I just ran across this special while I was channel surfing: Saturday 8pm, Midnight and Sunday at 4pm on the OVATION channel. (More possible showings. Check your listings.) "CALIFORNIA DREAMIN'"- Covering the branches of the "Rock Family Tree." The California rock scene. THE MAMAS AND THE PAPAS and THE LOVIN SPOONFUL, BARRY McGUIRE, THE BLUES PROJECT, BLOOD SWEAT AND TEARS. They even interview AL KOOPER! This features an array of music clips that I don't recall seeing before and interviews with band members. Has a British narrator, John Peel, so I assume it's from the BBC. They cut it off before the end of the credits. So I don't know how recent it is. Dr. Mark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 23:22:14 -0500 From: Country Paul Subject: Jan Berry R.I.P. I'm very sad. I met him on his first tour after his accident. It was difficult for him, but he was game, and it was a good show. Both he and Dean were very unassuming and just really nice people. My sympathy to all. Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:37:25 EST From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Re: Mary Ann Fisher & Margie Hendricks Previously: > Don't recall a female counter lead on Tell The Truth; just the > Raelettes ensemble..... As usual, I have it half right. Thought I clarified it in my own correction. Tell The Truth has a female lead until Ray comes in. What Kind Of Man Are You which has single voice answers to the title question. Di la, Rashkovsky -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 07:28:49 -0500 From: Joe Nelson Subject: Re: Jan Berry R.I.P. S.J. Dibai: > I always admired this guy's determination. He fought long and hard > to overcome the effects of his accident the best he could. Since Jan > & Dean's appearance on "At The Drive-In" was billed as part of their > farewell tour, at least Jan got to say a formal goodbye before this > life's end. The guy partying with with Jan at the end of the show is a friend of mine, Dr. Robert Rush from the Rip Chords. I'm sure he has the news already, but he's got to be devastated. Joe Nelson -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 15:45:01 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Jan Berry R.I.P. Just met a friend to exchange some CDs and DVDs. This guy is in his forties now, but I knew him as a kid in high school that was really into Jan and Dean. Not exactly the type of act you'd think an 80s kid would be into. Within an hour of saying goodbye I heard that Jan Berry has died. I saw him twice with Dean. He was always friendly, unlike Dean who was arrogant both times I've tried talking to him, and seemed to genuinely appreciate his fans. Yet again the local oldies station has barely mentioned his passing. He was the "Brian" of the band up until his accident. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 09:54:34 EST From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Best Wishes To everyone who attended the big party in London this weekend, I hope that it was a great affair and that a good time was had by all. Sure sorry I could not be there. Di la, Rashkovsky -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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