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Spectropop - Digest Number 1413

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There are 16 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Gary Myers and the Portraits
           From: Gary Myers 
      2. Re: His Name Is Jack ... well, technically John/Reprise's LOSS LEADER album
           From: C. Ponti 
      3. Re: John Simon
           From: mrdrdave 
      4. Re: Browning Bryant, revised
           From: Gary Myers 
      5. Re: "Selfish One" and more intros
           From: James Botticelli 
      6. Ed Rambeau thanks John Grecco for the terrific bio.
           From: Ed Rambeau 
      7. UK Oriole / Dream Babes 5 / etc
           From: Alan V. Karr 
      8. "Take A Girl Like You"
           From: Sean 
      9. On Any Sunday - Soundtrack?
           From: Sean 
     10. Flip Cartridge etc
           From: Martin Roberts 
     11. varied & miscellaneous
           From: Phil X. Milstein 
     12. Re: The Paul Simon Songbook
           From: Steve Harvey 
     13. Re: Lou Adler discovers P.F. Sloan
           From: Karen Andrew 
     14. Re: Reparata & the Delrons
           From: Ray 
     15. Re: Early Bob Seger on Cameo
           From: Mike McKay 
     16. Re: The Wonder of Ray Peterson
           From: ACJ 

Message: 1 Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 21:40:01 -0800 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: Gary Myers and the Portraits Martin Roberts: > ... "Over The Rainbow" (on Sidewalk). I've got this 45 and what a > fun record it is ... I love it! > ... it is now playing in musica How do I find that? > B-side "Runaround Girl"... That side was written by our guitarist, John Rondell, and we still keep in touch. > The label credits The Portraits featuring Jerry Tauney -- is he the > same as Jerry Tawney, who had a 45 or two on Liberty? Yes, Jerry actually had quite a few releases on Bell and other labels after leaving the Portraits. The Liberty 45 came before he joined our band. In fact, it was Clancy Grass who put us together. Jerry also later wrote with Jerry Fuller. I have a discog, if interested. > ... did you work on any other records for Sidewalk (and its sister > (?) label Uptown)? I never knew those two were connected. The Portraits had a previous 45 on Sidewalk (Let's Tell The World/A Million To One), and we had single tracks on two ST LP's. We also did some unreleased stuff, and I played drums on two cuts by the Mystic Astrologic Crystal Band on Carole (Curb's sister), who were also managed by Clancy. > ...delightfully named Harley Hatcher I knew Harley a little from around the offices. Thanks very much for your post, Martin. Gary Myers / MusicGem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 17:44:47 -0000 From: C. Ponti Subject: Re: His Name Is Jack ... well, technically John/Reprise's LOSS LEADER album Phil X. Milstein wrote: > Since my copy of the You Are What You Eat soundtrack was still > playing about, I decided to play another track from it, one which > I thought y'all would dig, to musica. You can now find there John > Simon's original version of "My Name Is Jack." So, dig already! Phil, Remember Simon's "The Elves' Song"? I used to play the LOSS LEADER album from Reprise alot and it was so marvelously odd.I also remember the Jimmy Webb sing, "Has Anyone Seen PF Sloan?" was on it. Many of the artists, Van Dyke Parks most conspicuously, were hurt by being on that album. Reprise also did that weird ad for VDP sniping at how much was spent on budget for SONG CYCLE. Peter Gallway, represented elsewhere on Spectropop as one of The Strangers in the "Emily's Illness" article, was on that album in his Ohio Knox incarnation. Ask me anything! C. Ponti -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:35:24 -0000 From: mrdrdave Subject: Re: John Simon > Since my copy of the You Are What You Eat soundtrack ... > John Simon's original version of "My Name Is Jack." What a cool song. Thanks for putting it in musica, it's going right to the top of the playlist. I think the first song I heard by John Simon was "The Elves' Song" on one of those Warner Loss Leaders albums in the early 70's. Another cool song. I heard "My Name Is Jack" a few years later somehow, not on the soundtrack as such, possibly on some UK import various artist compilation. I was pleased to find the "You Are What You Eat" soundtrack on CD a few years ago. So, I finally got a copy of "My Name Is Jack", and there's a quantity of other bizarre and interesting music on there, too! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 10:47:17 -0800 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: Browning Bryant, revised Previously: > Googling Browning Bryant, I have learned he was born in Pickens, SC, > was a child movie star, and is still recording to some degree. Bryant recorded a cover of "It's A Beautiful Day" (c&w chart single for Wynn Stewart), which was written by Tracy Pendarvis, about whom I also did a Goldmine story (4/3/92). BTW, Phil Milstein suggested that I mention my own research in here. I thought I did that in my reply to his post, but I haven't seen it, so if this is a repeat, please pardon my indulgence: I'm the author of "Do You Hear That Beat - Wisconsin Pop/Rock in the 50's & 60's", and I'm still researching that field. More info on my (very basic) website. Gary Myers / MusicGem gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 15:26:25 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: "Selfish One" and more intros Billy Paul's "Me & Mrs Jones" quotes "Once I Had A Secret Love" in the intro -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 21:11:52 -0000 From: Ed Rambeau Subject: Ed Rambeau thanks John Grecco for the terrific bio. I was recently interviewed by a gentlemen who is a fellow Spectropopper named John Grecco and he has just informed me that he has a new website where he has written a sensational and rather thorough bio on me. The website is also beautifully put together, so congratulations on that, John. For those interested, just go to and click on the rather youthful (LOL) pic of me on the top left side of the homepage. That will take you to the bio. Also, the SHINDIG shows from 1965 as well as the tribute to Diane Renay at the old-time radio convention can now be viewed by going to my website at I'd like to thank my web designer Rosemarie for her assistance is putting that all together. In addition, many of you have already joined JUKEBOX RAMBEAU but for those of you who haven't you can now join by clicking on the "Join The Fan Club" link at and on the bottom of the fan club link page you can join the JUKEBOX and receive a free MP3 daily. Sincerely, Ed Rambeau -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 21:17:24 -0000 From: Alan V. Karr Subject: UK Oriole / Dream Babes 5 / etc More Misc comments: 1) Columbia UK was in fact the British arm of the American Columbia Graphophone record company-as mentioned this became part of EMI, and US Columbia released its product in the UK through EMI through 1952, when for a number of reasons it broke away and licensed its product through Philips. This 2nd agreement (which resulted in Frankie Vaughan and Marty Wilde product being released in the US) lasted until 1962. CBS-Columbia bought the UK independent Oriole/Embassy in late 1964 which quickly became the wholly owned (vs custom label) UK CBS. Question for Mark Wirtz or anyone else: For whatever reason, almost no Beat-era UK Oriole/CBS product has been reissued by Sony. Some collectors have speculated that Oriole wiped their pre-CBS master tapes. Also Oriole & UK CBS made a lot of lease deals that might be hard to untangle but a few items have come to light occasionally. Youd figure since Sundazed has an "in" with Sony Legacy something might turn up but nothing. Any thoughts? 2) In a Discoveries piece Andrew Oldham claime to have completed work on a C-P box but has contempt for the content. I've also heard anecdotally in a situation reminiscent of the Who/Talmy case that the original owners held the tapes, ABKCO holds the copyrights and no one is settling. Like C-P, ABKCO also said the Stones stuff was going to be reissued for years then the CDS really did come out. So what/who the heck can we believe. 3) While I can't say the Guess Who's version of Shakin' All Over is the definitive one, it certainly was the US hit and the break is 1 of the most muscular drumming exhibitions pre-hard rock you'd hear on disc. 4) Dream Babes 5: Aside from the previously unreleased tracks why is there no discography references for the RPM Dream Girls Vol. 5. Could someone let us know the original UK release information? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 22:31:58 -0000 From: Sean Subject: "Take A Girl Like You" Hello, Does any know where I can find a copy of the 1970 Soundtrack LP to the film "Take A Girl Like You"? Thanks, Sean -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 22:32:39 -0000 From: Sean Subject: On Any Sunday - Soundtrack? Hello I saw the 1971 documetrary film all about motorcycle racing late last night, and was wondering if this was ever released as a soundtrack? And if yes, where can I find it on CD? LP? It's very groovy and very reminisent of our Mark Wirtz Mood Mosaic stuff! :) Thanks, Sean -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 22:51:05 -0000 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Flip Cartridge etc In reply to Simon's query Austin replied: > Everybody probably knows, knowing this Spectropop bunch, but Flip > Cartridge was also Flip of Skip and Flip (Cherry Pie and It Was I), > as well as the lead vocal on the Hollywood Argyles doing Alley Oop > and probably on other stuff. His name, of course, is Gary Paxton, > who is a trip to write with. What a talent! Well I sure didn't! Thanks Austin. A few questions remain... Like Simon I know "Dear Mrs Applebee" by Flip on UK London and assumed it was a cover of the aptly named Marie Applebee's, debut 45 produced by the Jerome Brothers on Jubilee. Also for Jubilee The Jeromes produced Renee St. Clair. I can't recall if these girls identies have been confirmed. Any ideas Austin? Country Paul added another query, Flips cover of "That's What Sends Men To the Bowery". This must have been released about the same time as the Jerome Bros. production of the song for Reperatra/Delrons on Kapp. Were you promoting songs from coast to coast Austin? And where any of your and Gary Paxton's songs recorded? Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:37:23 +0000 From: Phil X. Milstein Subject: varied & miscellaneous Clearing out the in-box of my mind: * Just getting around to listening to Julio Niño's musica posting of "Tengo Un Nuevo Angel," by Ana Belen, which he termed (and here I paraphrase), "a sweet song to help ease these difficult times in Madrid." Sweet it indeed is, and most charming, and I hope it helps fulfill Julio's wish. I especially enjoyed the guitar solo, and wonder if he can instruct us on who might've plucked it. * I believe it was Mick who played Babbity Blue's "Don't Hurt Me" for us. Wow! What a delight. Am I mistaken in believing the "Don't Hurt Me" girl also had a number called "Don't Make Me"? Don't tell me these two so similarly-named songs were the two sides of her one record! Even if you can't tell me that, perhaps you can tell me a little more about this Blue lady called Babbity. * I've long been aware of the fact that Aretha Franklin is from Detroit. But it only recently occurred to me to think of Aretha's Detroit in the same mental breath as the Detroit of Motown Records. Once so doing, however, I had to stop and wonder how it is that she didn't wind up recording for them. I'm sure her music would've come out very different if she had, and so I don't mourn the fact that this combination never (?) came to pass. And yet the confluences of time, place and talents make it seem like she would've been a natural signing for them. So, how not? * I'm looking for track suggestions or other input on a new compilation I've got on simmer, of reggae covers of relatively tepid U.S. or UK pop tunes. Examples include Take Me Home Country Roads, Red Red Wine and Pied Piper. Tentative title: Can A Rastaman Sing The Whites? * If The Monkees had indeed tackled Sugar Sugar when it was offered to them, which Monkee do you suppose would've taken the "I'm gonna make your life so sweet" line? * If, according to Don McLean, "the music died" one day in 1959, then what does he call what the hell it is that he's doing? * I recently reread the Mary Wilson interview residing in the Files section, and urge anyone who's missed it thus far to take a moment and look it over next chance they get. The questions are thoughtful and provocative, and Miss Wilson's answers are generous and elequent, and offer clear and unequivocal statements in support of such issues as fake groups and America's inability to adequately honor its elder stars. I doubt she's thinking of herself in regard to the latter issue, but I sure do hope that as she approaches her own senior years her country shows her the full level of its affection, as she truly has earned it. Her website, at, typically lends as much space to links to sites for her fellow artists as it does promote anything about her. Country Paul wrote: > I have a 45 by him, "That's What Sends Men To The Bowery;" his identity > remains a mystery, but I rather like the track - almost too cute to be > as poignant as it is. A number also recorded by Reparata & The School-Marms, I mean Del-Rons. Is "Flip Cartridge"'s version in the same faux-vaude style as Reparata's? That '67-'68 trend thrilled me when I was a pre-adolescent and it was new, but at this point my patience for it is pretty thin. Sebastian Fonzeus wrote: > Of interest to members of this list regarding The Hep Stars might > be their unsuccessful 1968 LP "It's Been A Long Long Time" on the > Cupol label as it includes several Curt Boettcher, Gary Alexander > and Sandy Salisbury penned tunes otherwise better known as recorded > by Milennium/Ballroom/Sagittarius. So the Hep Stars or someone in > their "inner circle" obviously had good taste ... Carl Magnus Palm's excellent 2002 Abba bio, "Bright Lights, Dark Shadows," addresses this issue. Palm relates that Felle Fernholm, the Hep Stars' "sixth member" and quasi-manager, connected in early 1967 with Steve Clark, the CFO of Boettcher's production company. But Clark and Boettcher split with one another shortly afterward, over Boettcher's belief that Clark was jobbing him on the company's revenues, and Clark took the reins for The Hep Stars' studio sessions, which took place in London in November and December. After causing the band to sack three of its members, he presented remaining Hep Stars Benny Andersson and singer/teeniebop magnet Svenne Hedlund with a list of songs they could select from, most of which were Boettcher titles (of which the reader is left to assume Clark retained a share of the publishing). Although prior to signing them Clark had tempted the band with suggestions that their sound was just the thing the American market was hungering for, once the recordings were complete, as Hedlund told Palm, "I don't think very much was really done to get the album released over there. ... In reality they only wanted to jump on our bandwagon [i.e. popularity back home], since it was likely the album would sell a hell of a lot in Scandinavia." That's rocknroll, --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:16:05 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Re: The Paul Simon Songbook You have never heard anything about the reissue until now because it just came out. It's never been reissued before. The girl on the cover is Beverly Martyn, later married to Brit folkie, John Martyn. She had a record out on Deram under her own name. It's her voice you hear in the middle of "Fakin' It". -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:42:25 -0800 (PST) From: Karen Andrew Subject: Re: Lou Adler discovers P.F. Sloan Dan, thanks for the background on the "Eve of Destruction", which is one of my favorite protest songs. Adler said: "If you listen to the song today, it holds up all the way - it's the same problems." Isn't that interesting - we can say the same for 2003 too! What a song! KA -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 03:10:12 -0000 From: Ray Subject: Re: Reparata & the Delrons Austin...Tony...and Phil Just a short update on Reparata. I am a longtime friend of hers. I spoke to her just a few weeks ago. We try to keep in touch on a monthly basis. Tony's right, she is no longer performing. She gave it up just a few years ago. She is living in Neponsit, Queens... close to the beach. I've been attempting to keep her up to date with all of the message board chatter that has taken place on this board in the last year or so. She is literally amazed that people outside of nyc even remember her name. A few months ago, I copied and printed some of the interesting posts and gave them to her in a large folder. As she read it, her eyes widened with every comment. She was especially happy to see that her favorite recording "I'm Nobody's Baby Now" has received some praise. It's the one record that she is the most proud of. It surprised me to hear her say that up until the recent CD release of "Magicial Musical History Tour", she did not have a copy of "Nobody's Baby" or many of her other releases. My own collection of her many releases is much larger than hers, but still not nearly complete. She was also very pleased with Mick Patrick's article on the group in the Cha Cha Charming website. Mary (Reparata) promises me that she will soon get on board with the rest of the world and start to get on the internet. She is an extremely funny person with a lot of stories to tell and would be a great asset to this site. At least that's what I keep telling her. So, I hope you'll soon be hearing from her directly. Austin, I'll be sure to mention your name the next time I speak to her. Tony, good to hear from you again. Ray -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 23:24:09 EST From: Mike McKay Subject: Re: Early Bob Seger on Cameo Clark wrote: > Watched Bob Seger get inducted into the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame last > week on VH1.  Sad to say that due to Allan Klein, his true rock n > roll best is still unavailable.  You think that Capitol stuff was > good?  You ain't heard Bob Seger rock for real until you hear the > Cameo (Hideout originally) stuff!!  That's what I want to hear first > from these vaults.  makes sense with the induction so recent.  Clark, you can get the early Seger stuff on a CD entitled "The Best of Hideout" from Sabre Disc. A friend of mine got it as a present for her boyfriend this past Christmas, so I can testify that it does exist. I don't know anything of the legalities involved -- perhaps someone associated with Hideout retained the rights to this stuff despite it later appearing on Cameo/Cameo Parkway. Anyway, the address for ordering this CD can be found at the bottom of this page (following an interview with someone who was in on the ground floor of the Hideout Club, which spawned the record label): By the way, I certainly agree with you about the excellence of the early Seger stuff. I never much cared for him after "2 + 2 == ?" and "Ramblin' Gamblin' Man," but the earlier "Persecution Smith" and "Heavy Music, parts 1 and 2" are both excellent. And the best of all is "East Side Story" -- which has been at the top of my urban punk hit parade for many, many years now. Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 23:39:53 -0500 (EST) From: ACJ Subject: Re: The Wonder of Ray Peterson Well, I'm glad to see some others besides me (namely, Country Paul and Gary Myers) prefer Ray Peterson's "Wonder of You" to Elvis's! No offense against The King, of course, but I'm surrounded by Elvis-worshippers, and I hear Elvis's "Wonder" quite often, and think "Oh, if you'd only hear..." And Gary Myers - welcome to S'pop! I'm surprised you weren't here already! (To others: Gary is the author of a splendid book about Wisconsin rock acts and their records, and he's been a big help to me in my "U.P. Grooves!" project.) ACJ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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