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Spectropop - Digest Number 1406



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There are 13 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Teen Queens; Good & Plenty; Bernie Schwartz; a discography find
           From: Country Paul 
      2. Al Caiola
           From: Kingsley Abbott 
      3. the Greats of Rock 'N Roll ... Jann Wenner?
           From: C. Ponti 
      4. Dream Boy, vol. 1-3
           From: Mikey 
      5. Re: Bernie Schwartz
           From: Gary Myers 
      6. Re: The Canaries.
           From: Austin Roberts 
      7. Re: Cameo-Parkway and ABKCO
           From: Billy G Spradlin 
      8. when they're 64 / Tim Rose song / Bernie Schwartes / Babbity Babbity
           From: Phil X. Milstein 
      9. the death of Shindig
           From: Freeman Carmack 
     10. Re: Al Caiola -- "Concrete And Clay" guitarist
           From: Dan Hughes 
     11. Re: Cameo-Parkway and ABKCO
           From: Bill 
     12. Re: The Teen Queens
           From: Phil Hall 
     13. an invitation / JDS on AmDreams / Tim Rose
           From: Bill George 


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Message: 1 Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 17:00:24 -0500 From: Country Paul Subject: Teen Queens; Good & Plenty; Bernie Schwartz; a discography find Mick Patrick wrote: > Information regarding the Teen Queens CD is available here: > http://216.15.202.119/cgi-bin/SearchCatNo.asp?lngID=183670 > and here: http://216.15.202.119/MoreInfo/CDCHD581.html Sad tale; it explains why I've only heard the one song (but I admit to not delving too deeply into their ouevre). S.J. Dibai, re the Good & Plenty: > I found my mono cutout copy for five bucks at a funky little store > in West Philly two weeks ago, and it's in pretty good shape. I don't remember the music, but I remember the album cover; at the time, we were kinda "ultra hip" and this was considered "plastic hippie" music. I'd be curious to see what a listen with fresh ears would now sound like. S.J. again: > I also saw an article (from Goldmine, I believe, but I might be > wrong about that) in which Allen B. Klein's son Jody was saying > that ABKCO has been waiting to put out the C-P stuff because > they've been trying to develop the technology to do the most > amazing C-P reissues ever and the technology has taken several > years to develop. >From what I remember in general, most C-P stuff wasn't all that well recorded in the first place -- not atrocious, certainly not great. (Or maybe it was just the sandpaper they were pressed on.) So get 'em out there already, before we can't afford to buy them on our Social Security checks! Ed Rambeau: > The guitarist on Concrete and Clay was Al Caiola (not sure > of the spelling of his last name....). He has a few albums of > his own that are available. He's quite a famous guitarist. I think he was also a UA artist; was it he who had the instrumental hit on the theme from "The Magnificent Seven". Scott: > Bernie Schwartz has a great (if obscure) LP as well -- The Wheel. > Think the two guys from Euphoria played on it. Gary Myers: > Schwartz' first record was on Tide as Don Atello. I covered him to some > extent in a story I did on the Tide label for Goldmine many years ago. > I had a very enjoyable with him for the story. Thanks for the reply, guys. Scott, I have "The Wheel" (CoBurt 1001, dist. MGM). I mentioned this album back in December, 2001, commenting on the harsh sound of the release. There may have been a bad batch of pressings, or bad mixing, but something sure undermined the music. There's a nice ballad on it called "Peace on Earth," which was used in the awful movie "The Magic Garden of Stanley Sweetheart," a hippie-era cash-in best remembered for being Don Johnson's first starring vehicle (if I'm not mistaken). There's also a great rocker, "Follow Me," with some very innovative wordplay in the lyrics. Schwartz also was in The Comfortable Chair (on Ode); my copy of the album has walked away, but I have a 45, the B-side of which, "Some Soon, Some Day," is haunting and has some sparkling harmony. (If the above is a rehash of something I wrote recently, please forgive me; it may have been in off-list correspondence.) Gary, in what issue of Goldmine was your article, please? DISCOGRAPHY RESOURCE ALERT: A companion Yahoo discussion group, the Hillbilly List, has in its files some wonderful singles discographies, not just limited to their chosen topic. Labels I've opened include Cadence and Jamie; there are more, some of which wouldn't open at the moment. But pursuing this might be worth your while: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/hillbilly/files/ . You may need to join the list to view them. Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 10:37:40 -0000 From: Kingsley Abbott Subject: Al Caiola Ed Rambeau wrote: > The guitarist on Concrete and Clay was Al Caiola (not sure > of the spelling of his last name so I spelled it phonetically). > He has a few albums of his own that are available. He's quite > a famous guitarist. Spelling correct! Al was indeed a very good guitarist, probably at his best with jazzy stuff. He worked in NY and Nashville most, and lived in NJ. Made lot of 'theme' albums, a few of which are of interet to S'Pop: One called 'Greasy Kid Stuff' (UA 3287) which included 'South Street', 'He's So Fine' 'Our Day Will Come', 'Charms', 'Rhythm Of The Rain', etc. -- a hits of '63 collection One called 'All Strung Out' put out as the Caiola Combo (a four-piece including Grady Tate on drums), which gives a new summery take on the title number and adds other cool jazzy takes on songs like 'Misty' and 'Cherry Cherry'. There must have been at least two dozen albums, probably many more -- some small group, some with other session guys (i.e., Nashville), some with full orchestra. Pretty well always classy, well-played material, though the covers didn't cause the art departments any overtime! Kingsley Abbott -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 04:43:56 -0000 From: C. Ponti Subject: the Greats of Rock 'N Roll ... Jann Wenner? I think what little credibility the R & R Hall of Fame had has been further compromised by inducting Jann Wenner. Everyone who has been part of the ceremony knows it's a vanity project of Lorne Michaels and a few other ill-informed types. At least Phil Spector helped show them who was deserving, though I always felt his involvement lessened even his formidable cred. I can just imagine Jann saying "This year I think we should induct ... me!" C -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 20:53:25 -0500 From: Mikey Subject: Dream Boy, vol. 1-3 Can anyone hip me as to where I can get the three volumes of the "Dream Boy" series of CDs? thanks, Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 19:28:56 -0800 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: Bernie Schwartz Here is a Bernie Schwartz discography, which I compiled around 1989: 45s: Tide 1099: She'll Break Your Heart / Forever Please Be Mine /63 Tide 2002: Questions I Can't Answer / It Isn't Right /64 (both above as by Don Atello) Warner Brothers 5651: Baby Bye-Oh / Something's Wrong 8/65 Warner Brothers 5867: Her Name Is Melody / I Go To Sleep (Adrian Pride) 11/66 Ode 109: Be Me / Some Soon, Some Day 5/68 Ode 112: I'll See You / Now 11/6 (both above as by Comfortable Chair) LPs: Ode 44005: Comfortable Chair /68 Coburt 1001: The Wheel (three tracks) MGM 1 ST-20ST: The Magic Garden Of Stanley Sweetheart (one track) 10/70 as songwriter: Orange Empire 500: Take A Look In The Mirror / Close Your Mind (East Side Kids) 1/67 Showplace 216: Never See The Good In Me / Sleeping Minds Showplace 217: We Got A Love In The Makin' / (flip is remake of Jezebel) (both above by Yellow Payges) 2/67 MGM 13815: Children Ask / She Is The Color Of Love (Power) 10/67 notes: Baby Bye Oh wr. Sheely-DeShannon, co-pr. Phil Everly, harmony vocal by Everly Something's Wrong wr. Phil Everly I Go To Sleep wr. Ray Davies Comfortable Chair pr. Robbie Krieger & John Densmore Gary Myers MusicGem: http://home.earthlink.net/~gem777/ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 23:15:54 EST From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: The Canaries. Steve Jarrell wrote: > I remember a group called the Canaries. I was playing in Virginia > Beach at the time at Seaside Amusement Park. They hired The Canaries > to play the summer of '64. It not all the local groups that > performed there out of work. Austin Roberts may remember this, he > was there. As for records, I don't know. I remember The Canaries, since I was in a horn-beach-soul group and watched at least half of the clubs in Va. Beach and around start hiring British pop groups. Pissed off a lot of us in the VA, NC, SC areas. Although I must admit I was a huge Beatles fan. Austin R -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:37:56 -0000 From: Billy G Spradlin Subject: Re: Cameo-Parkway and ABKCO previously: > I also saw an article (from Goldmine, I > believe, but I might be wrong about that) in which Allen B. Klein's > son Jody was saying that ABKCO has been waiting to put out the C-P > stuff because they've been trying to develop the technology to do > the most amazing C-P reissues ever and the technology has taken > several years to develop. I don't believe that, but that's what he > said. The new Rolling Stones re-issues were all SCAD/DSD "hybrid" CDs, which I have never bought before, nor understand the technology behind. Are they supposed to sound better played on a another kind of playback unit? Which kind? I played them on my DVD and they played back as a regular audio CD. Someone please explain this to me, thanks. Still ABKCO's explanation for the holdup sounds like a lame excuse to me. The technology for a proper remastering project was available over 10 years ago. No kind of digital remastering or DVD storage wizardry is gonna make "Lets Twist Again" sound better. I would like to see a nice big 4-CD box covering all of Cameo/ Parkway's biggest hits and some rarities, then some separate CDs for the label's most popular artists (Chubby, Bobby, Dee Dee, Orlons, ? & The Mysterians), and then maybe some compilations featuring Doo-Wop, Teen Idols, '60s Dance Craze, Girl Groups, and Garage Bands. Billy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 13:03:51 -0500 From: Phil X. Milstein Subject: when they're 64 / Tim Rose song / Bernie Schwartes / Babbity Babbity It occurred to me recently that this is the year in which the Beatles, those of them that remain with us, will start turning 64. Ringo's 64th birthday comes up on July 7; John's would've been Oct. 9; Paul is two years behind them and George a year behind him. I remember that in the first-ever book of Beatles illustrated lyrics, accompanying "When I'm 64" was an artist's fantasy version of what the boys would look like in 2004. It was a sobering thing to see back when they were still in their mid-30s, but now that that time is indeed upon us I'm curious to revisit that illustration, to see how accurate the artist may've been. If anyone's got that book (I only skimmed through it at a store), perhaps they could scan in the drawing in question and post it for us. By July 7, if not sooner. Paul Bryant forwarded Nick Barks' review of a Tim Rose gig: > "This is the best new song I've heard by anyone in a > decade. I find out later from the man it's called > 'Tigers in Cages.' He wrote it last year and it's > unreleased. Anyone walking in mid-song would have > thought this was an encore. The writer's got me eager to hear this song. Anyone know if it was ever recorded? Scott wrote: > Bernie Schwartz has a great (if obscure) LP as well -- The Wheel. Think > the two guys from Euphoria played on it. And he was excellent in Sweet Smell Of Success, Spartacus, Some Like It Hot ... Mick Patrick wrote: > Babbity Blue "Don't Hurt Me" (UK Decca F.12149, 1965). Written by > Spencer and Cooper. Music Director: Reg Guest. Production: Mike > Smith. Ah, but what, or who, was a "Babbity Blue"? --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 18:28:37 -0000 From: Freeman Carmack Subject: the death of Shindig I agree with Mr Rambeau re the death of Shindig. Look at Hulllabaloo. They'd include an unhip sop to the "oldsters" as an attempt to lure parents and, in the process, I think alienated the kids, who (myself included), were there for the cool music and to look at our idols. I remember being embarrassed in '64-65 seeing Michael Landon singing "I Like it Like That" and trying to keep up with the Hulllabaloo dancers. Shindig had that West Coast Cool about the whole show and early on never seemed to get in the way of the music. Even the fella who served as MC was cool, in a mid-'60s kinda way, and it always served the music -- didn't take away from it. Other music shows, ie Where The Action Is, also succeeded on its own musical and cultural merits. We'd race home everyday after school in '65-'67 to catch the music, the locations, and the look of WTAI. Some of my fondest adult WTAI re-memories -- the Robbs doing "Race With The Wind", and Tommy Roe performing "It's Now Winter's Day", not to mention all of the wonderful zaniness of Paul Revere & The Raiders. Memories, I might add, stimulated by discussions on this here group; thanks. Freeman Carmack Worthington, OH -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 07:27:39 -0600 From: Dan Hughes Subject: Re: Al Caiola -- "Concrete And Clay" guitarist Mac asks, > Is this the same Al Caiola that did "Theme from the Magnificent 7", > aka "The Theme from Marlboro Country"? I have him also doing the > "Theme from Bonanza". No Mac, not the same guy. There are actually seven different Al Caiolas, hard to tell apart because their styles are so similar. The one who did Magnificent 7 uses a thicker guitar pick than the one who did the Bonanza theme, so if you listen carefully you can detect the more "stable" sound of the thick-pick-using Caiola. Also, he has more hair. (The other five are inconsequential -- lots of bar shows but no recordings of note). Glad to help. --Dan, feeling especially silly and revisionist today ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 08:40:15 EST From: Bill Subject: Re: Cameo-Parkway and ABKCO Herb, Sequel Records here in the UK put out in 1994 a CD of 5 Stairsteps tracks that started with You Waited Too Long. They are quoted as original Buddah recordings. Cheers, Bill -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 02:09:36 -0000 From: Phil Hall Subject: Re: The Teen Queens Tony Leong wrote: > I've read that both members have died -- I think Betty in 1968, > and Rosie a bit later. The cause was drugs I believe. Tragic!!!! Thanks, Tony. I'd probably learn a lot of this stuff reading the liner notes, but my budget doesn't allow me to buy everything I want. BTW, I caught the picture of you with Reparata (Mary Aiese) on another site. Are you still in contact with her, and how's she doing? Phil H. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 10:14:01 EST From: Bill George Subject: an invitation / JDS on AmDreams / Tim Rose To any Spectropoppers in the NYC area who might be interested in something off the Spectropop path (WAY off!) I would like to invite you to a concert I am giving next Sunday night: New Music New York presents William George, tenor Francisco Roldan, guitarist An evening of music for voice and guitar A Tribute to Peter Pears & Julian Bream Benjamin Britten -- Songs From the Chinese Priaulx Rainier -- Ubunzima & Dance of the Rain Lennox Berkeley -- Theme & Variations Michael Tippett -- Songs For Achilles Plus music by Bach, Bettinelli, Carter, Dowland, George, Rodrigo Sunday, March 28, 2004, 7pm, $10 The French Church of Saint-Esprit 111 E. 60th Street (between Park & Lexington Avenues) for more information, call (718) 728-7936 or email NewMusicNewYork@aol.com Clark wrote: > I'm wondering if Bill George and others saw someone > impersonating Jackie DeShannon singing "When You Walk > in the Room" on "American Dreams" this week? Yes, I saw it. It is the first time I've seen the program, and I can't say it held my interest. I just waited for Liz Phair to appear as Jackie. I thought she did a good job, although they hardly gave her any screen time. When I first heard about it, I thought Phair was a poor choice, but she turned out to be pretty good. Apparently, she chose the song/artist to portray, and Jackie was there at the studio while they filmed. Anyway, a pretty good promo for Jackie. Paul wrote: > Hey, Bill -- it might have been this one! A review of a > Tim Rose gig in the UK from a couple of years ago, by > a fiend of mine. Yep, that was the one. I was playing there a couple nights later, and Tim asked if I would do a couple of songs during his set to give him a rest. It was actually my first time playing solo guitar (I am NOT a guitarist), but it was a thrill to be asked to share his stage for a few minutes. He was an amazing performer. Bill -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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