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Spectropop - Digest Number 1404

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There are 21 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Good Guys; Tom Wilson; "Guess who?"; short takes
           From: Country Paul 
      2. Re: P.F. Sloan's Danger Man
           From: Phil X. Milstein 
      3. The Hep Stars & Curt Boettcher
           From: Sebastian Fonzeus 
      4. The Hep Stars & Joe Meek
           From: Bill Craig 
      5. WMCA shirts
           From: Kingsley Abbott 
      6. The Wellingtons
           From: Peter Richmond 
      7. Maurice Gibb
           From: Lounge Laura Taylor 
      8. Burt Bacharach & Carol Bayer-Sager's living room!
           From: Lounge Laura Taylor 
      9. Andy Paley / Sidewinders
           From: Richard Williams 
     10. The Canaries.
           From: Julio Niņo 
     11. Re: The Teen Queens
           From: Mick Patrick 
     12. Alan Gordon - "Good Time Girl"
           From: Mike Dugo 
     13. Hayley... sigh
           From: Alan Albabe Gordon 
     14. Re: Good & Plenty
           From: S.J. Dibai 
     15. Cameo Parkway and ABKCO
           From: S.J. Dibai 
     16. Lyrics Questions
           From: S.J. Dibai 
     17. "Concrete And Clay" gutarist
           From: Ed Rambeau 
     18. Hedy Lamarr & Shindig!!
           From: Ed Rambeau 
     19. Bernie Schwartz
           From: Scott 
     20. Re: Gigliola Cinquetti  and Dio, Come Ti Amo
           From: Michael Fishberg 
     21. Bernie Schwartz
           From: Gary Myers 

Message: 1 Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 00:32:29 -0500 From: Country Paul Subject: Good Guys; Tom Wilson; "Guess who?"; short takes Jim Shannon: > I still have my original "Good Guy" sweatshirt from WPOP. > Merchandising expanded to "Good Guy Music Survey" to bumper > stickers. After the "Good Guy" phase, many stations went with > the "Boss Jocks" concept. Would love to get those '60s DJ > musical openings. The late Rick Sklar, the first and most successful Program Director of WABC, New York, as a rock station, told a Good Guys story at a college radio gathering I attended in the late 60's; I may have related it here earlier, so here's the short version. Originally, WABC was "The Good Guys" station, but somehow - perhaps it wasn't copyrighted - it got away from them. WMCA, their down-the-dial competition, came on out of the blue one day as "The Good Guys," and for two days it was a total Top 40 war on the air. WABC did some serious woodshedding and quick jingle production, and suddenly they were "The All Americans" (tying in with their ownership by the American Broadcasting Company. Sklar touted that as trumping The Goog Guys, but personally I thought the Good Guys image was a lot cooler (at least at the time - the smiley face hasn't worn well in this household). Of course, WABC lasted a lot longer as a music station than WMCA, perhaps because it had 50,000 watts to WMCA's 5,000, plus the money of a major network behind it. Phil Milstein: > To my ears, Mr. Wilson sounds a bit stoked on the wacky tabacky > here, but perhaps those who knew him can inform us of whether this > is the way he spoke ordinarily or not. Fun flashback, Phil; thanks. Being a Harvard alum, I'm quite sure that this was *one* way Wilson talked, but could vary it for his target listener. On the other hand, he is using Zappa's "Help I'm A Rock" for talkover music! (Most of us progressive jocks tried to talk as though we were dabbling in the wacky tobacky, too; for many, it was less of an act than for others!) I was in the studio for the taping of the Ultimate Spinach/Orpheus show, and I sort of remember him doing this kind of space rap, but I also remember thinking he certainly had his act together as a person and could take care of business. There were no funny smells on the premesis, though. The show was taped in a recording studio, then mixed, pressed on limited- edition LP's, and sent out to progressive radio stations around the country. I had a copy of the show I sat in on, but couldn't find it when I recently looked. Darn. Jim Shannon again; > I've never cared for The Guess Who and the vocals of Burton > Cummings. "Shakin' All Over" was okay, but most of their material > was top-40 fodder. One exception was the introspective soft pop > ballad called "Sour Suite." A minor hit compared to their earlier > songs of the late sixties, this one is worth adding to your > pop music archives. Jim, while I don't remember "Sour Suite," I share your opinion of Burt Cummings, whose vocal style I find to be as sincere as a three- dollar bill. However, "Shakin' All Over" featured a different lead singer: Chad Allen. The group had hits in Canada as Chad Allen & The Exceptions. Unfortunately I'm not familiar with them. Apparently, "Shakin' All Over" was to be a CA&theEs record, but was so different from what they did before it was released with "Guess who?" in the artist space on the label. Canadians thought it was a new group by that name, and the song took off; the new name stuck. (If I remember correctly, the US Scepter release also just said GUESS WHO? [all caps], with no "the" before it.) I don't know if Allen quit or was fired (Javed, are you still aboard to enlighten us?) but he had several solo singles afterward. Short takes; Partrick Rands: > I've been writing scads of music reviews lately that Spectropop > members would probably appreciate - check them out here and enjoy! Interesting reviews, Patrick; especially fascinating to see someone else's comments on the albums I reviewed for s'pop. (And if you can find the original version of Keith Colley's "Enamorado" on Unical, I think it might change your mind about the song; it's quite a different feeling.) Steve McClure: > Remember Mrs. Miller? Well, after listening to the unearthly > sounds of Wing, I'm beginning to think that some mad scientist > has spliced Mrs. Miller's DNA with that of Yoko Ono.... > Yow! Where is Irwin Chusid's "Incorrect Music" hour on WFMU when we really need it?!? Mike "BigStar" Re: Cooper/Dodge Band > John Dodge was actually John Silliman, who was a student with me at > Ohio University in the early '70s and who was managed for a time by > my roommate Paul. (Paul was later involved with Cooper-Dodge as well > as an independent record promoter.) Mike, would that be Paul Yeskel? Country Paul (not Yeskel, but I knew him well for a while) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 23:51:07 -0500 From: Phil X. Milstein Subject: Re: P.F. Sloan's Danger Man Clark Besch wrote: > The new lyrics are "Rollback Man". Considering Flip supposedly > hated Johnny Rivers' version of Sloan's original "Danger Man" ... Was Sloan's original ever released? --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 11:06:34 +0100 From: Sebastian Fonzeus Subject: The Hep Stars & Curt Boettcher Hello! Of interest to members of this list regarding The Hep Stars might be their unsuccessful 1968 LP "It's Been A Long Long Time" on the Cupol label as it includes several Curt Boettcher, Gary Alexander and Sandy Salisbury penned tunes otherwise better known as recorded by Milennium/Ballroom/Sagittarius. So the Hep Stars or someone in their "inner circle" obviously had good taste, but unfortunately their versions (like most of their other material except maybe a handful of tunes) are absolutely horrible in my opinion and plagued by Svenne's flat sounding uninspiring vocals and bad english. The album has been issued on CD in Japan. Check this out for more info: Take care! /Sebastian -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 13:09:15 -0000 From: Bill Craig Subject: The Hep Stars & Joe Meek David Coyle wrote: > ... the Hep Stars ... also did a cover of Mike Berry's "Tribute > To Buddy Holly." A-ha! Finally hard evidence of the long suspected ABBA-Joe Meek connection! Bill Craig -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 15:14:13 -0000 From: Kingsley Abbott Subject: WMCA shirts Simon Nicol of Fairport Convention had a yellow WMCA Good Guys shirt which I think he obtained on their first US trip. It looked good on the Charing Cross Road! Kingsley -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 15:34:30 -0000 From: Peter Richmond Subject: The Wellingtons David Young: > ... The Wellingtons ... Ascot single "Go Ahead and Cry." ... > Peter Richmond, which came first, this or The Righteous Brothers' > own version? David, The Wellingtons had the original version of "Go Ahead And Cry", written and produced by Bill Medley of the Righteous Brothers, arranged by Bill Baker on Ascot 2217, released in March 1966. The Righteous Brothers version of "Go Ahead And Cry" also produced by Bill Medley and arranged by Bill Baker, was released later in August 1966 on Verve 10430. The Wellingtons had performed "Go Ahead And Cry" on Shindig in November 1965. Kirby Johnson, a member of the group, arranged the Ascot 2217 B-side "Take My Hand", also written and produced by Bill Medley. He was to later arrange the 1968 Verve 10621 Bobby Hatfield single "Brothers"/ "What's The Matter Baby" and then in 1972, possibly Hatfield's best ever solo effort, in my humble opinion, "Stay With Me" on Warner Brothers 7649. Peter Richmond. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 16:07:42 -0000 From: Lounge Laura Taylor Subject: Maurice Gibb Hello! I haven't read or posted to this group in awhile, and I have missed it. I have heard Maurice Gibb released some really great solo works in the late 60s, ala' the Robin Gibb SING SLOWLY SISTERS. Can any of you wonderful sages help me where to find said stuff? Thanks! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 16:26:34 -0000 From: Lounge Laura Taylor Subject: Burt Bacharach & Carol Bayer-Sager's living room! See: I bet Burt and Angie had an even better pad! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 18:04:55 +0000 From: Richard Williams Subject: Andy Paley / Sidewinders I wrote: > The first time I became aware of Andy Paley was during his time > with a band called the Sidewinders, whose 1972 RCA album was > produced by Richard Robinson. Eddy wrote: > Richard, wasn't the Sidewinders album produced by Lenny Kaye? Whoops -- dead right. Sorry to mislead. Richard and Lenny were (probably are still) best friends and were both just getting into production. Richard did some Flamin' Groovies stuff around the same time, and then Lou Reed's first post-Velvets album. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 18:47:32 -0000 From: Julio Niņo Subject: The Canaries. Hola Everybody. Scott wrote: > ...Does anyone know anything about the group The Canaries that > recorded one single on Dimension 1047 "Iīm Sorry Baby"/"Runaround > Ronnie." Scott, I havenīt heard that record, so I donīt know if it can be the same group, but there was a Spanish combo named The Canaries (They were from the Canary Islands). In 1966 they recorded some songs in NYC, produced by The Tokens. An LP with those recordings was issued: "Flying High with The Canaries". In 1968 The Group, as Los Canarios, had a monster hit in Spain with "Get on Your Knees" (according to the legend, a song about fellatio, camouflaged with religious references. Remember that this was Spain in the sixties, where the tricks to elude the censure often lead to grotesque and funny situations. What is more, although it could sound bizarre nowadays, there is a long tradition of combining religion and sex in Spanish art). Chao. Julio Niņo. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 18:06:33 -0000 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: The Teen Queens Phil Hall wrote: > Does anyone know what happened to Rosie & Betty Collins, > who were The Teen Queens? I know they never had a hit > after "Eddie My Love" and that they later had problems > with drugs, but does anyone know where they are today? Those who are sufficiently interested in the Teen Queens to have bought their CD will be aware that Rosie and Betty Collins are both dead. That means only their legal heirs and the copyright owners of their recordings are likely to complain that tracks by the group are being made available free of charge via the internet. Information regarding the Teen Queens CD is available here: and here: Hey la, Mick Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 09:45:10 -0600 From: Mike Dugo Subject: Alan Gordon - "Good Time Girl" That Alan Gordon: > I do not recall if any artist recorded that song. Ritchie Adams > and I wrote "Gotta Get Away," which was on the B side of "We > Ain't Got Nothin' Yet" by the Blues Magoos. We also wrote "What > Goes On," which the Archies did on one of their albums. I really > can`t recall if any one did "Good Time Girl." Thanks for the information, Alan. Someone must have recorded it, since the acetate exists. Let me see if I can dig up some more info. Again, I appreciate your response. Mike Dugo -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 12:57:49 -0800 From: Alan Albabe Gordon Subject: Hayley... sigh Ronnie A. speaks of meeting meeting Hayley Mills: You are the luckiest man in the world, sir. Well... you and all those other guys that got to meet Ms. Mills. I've had a crush on her since I was 8... sigh... ~albabe -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 21:45:40 -0000 From: S.J. Dibai Subject: Re: Good & Plenty Steve Fuji: > I would expect that the album is even rarer than the single. The B- > side of the single is called "I Played My Part Well," and "Living > in a World of Make Believe" made the "bubbling under the hot 100" > charts on Billboard. How are the other songs on the album? Aw, man, "I Played My Part Well" is one of my FAVORITE tracks on the album! As for the other tracks on the album, they're mostly very typical (in a good way) late '60s period pieces. There are two songs that are solo showcases, one for Douglas Good (the corny-but- catchy "Ain't Life Grand," where he sings almost like a child) and one for Ginny Plenty (a sassy little burlesque-sounding number called "The Guy Who Did Me In"). There's also some bouncy California- style sunshine pop with heavily overdubbed vocals ("She Is The We Of Me," "Ho Hum"), a hippie-ish, psych-pop number ("Children Dreamin'"-- excellent), and some tunes like "Make Believe" with interesting lyrics and similar arrangements. The songs are all conscise, radio- friendly pop tunes. Ginny Plenty's haunting voice is a clear highlight of the LP. The more I listen to the album, the more I like it. Regarding rarity: hmmm....I'd certainly guess that it's rare, but if my experience is any indication, it's not the sort of thing that you have to take out a loan for. I found my mono cutout copy for five bucks at a funky little store in West Philly two weeks ago, and it's in pretty good shape. Thanks for your help and interest. S.J. Dibai -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 22:06:12 -0000 From: S.J. Dibai Subject: Cameo Parkway and ABKCO Larry Lapka: > Jeff is currently researching the legendary record company Cameo- > Parkway and will be writing the liner notes for the long-awaited > C-P boxed set and individual best-of CDs, due in mid-2004. Yeah, I saw this two or three months ago. My initial response to your question "Can this be true?" is the title of an Eddie Holman hit on Parkway: this can't be true. However, that attitude is just the result of ABKCO promising and not delivering on the C-P stuff for, um, how long now??? I also saw an article (from Goldmine, I believe, but I might be wrong about that) in which Allen B. Klein's son Jody was saying that ABKCO has been waiting to put out the C-P stuff because they've been trying to develop the technology to do the most amazing C-P reissues ever and the technology has taken several years to develop. I don't believe that, but that's what he said. So basically I've been keeping my eyes open since seeing Jeff Tamarkin's website. I haven't been holding my breath, but I've been on the lookout for any news regarding C-P reissues, and any actual reissues themselves. I will say this: even once those reissues come out (if they ever do), they'll never mean quite as much to me as my everlovin' Cameo-Parkway bootlegs! S.J. Dibai -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 22:13:07 -0000 From: S.J. Dibai Subject: Lyrics Questions Howdy, Spectropoppers. With all of your sharp ears and insider knowledge, perhaps some of you can help me with a few songs whose lyrics I've been trying in vain to decipher recently. If you can assist me, please e-mail me privately so as not to clog things up here. So the songs are: Los Bravos, "Dirty Street" (after the line "there are streets like this existing in every town") and "I'm Cutting Out" Kit Kats, "Let's Get Lost On A Country Road" (I've listened to it a million times, cranked it up, used headphones, listened to different mixes--I still can't figure out what the hell they're saying!) Thank you very much! S.J. Dibai -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 22:16:43 EST From: Ed Rambeau Subject: "Concrete And Clay" gutarist John: > Eddie, thanks for the very 'groovy' links. It should've went higher > up the charts. Quick question - do you remember who played the > tasty guitar in Concrete & clay, My name is mud and Yesterdays > newspapers... very nice, whoever it was. Also I believe I remember > from a previous post that you wrote / co-wrote "Big Town boy"...if > so, of my favorite 'girl group' tunes, I never tire of. Sorry I took so long in answering, John, but I just returned from Egypt. The guitarist on Concrete and Clay was Al Caiola (not sure of the spelling of his last name so I spelled it phonetically). He has a few albums of his own that are available. He's quite a famous guitarist. Also, nice to hear you're still enjoying Big Town Boy. Thanks for viewing and listening. Ed Rambeau -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 22:20:44 EST From: Ed Rambeau Subject: Hedy Lamarr & Shindig!! Chris "Call Me Tondelayo" Schneider: > Hedy Lamarr as a guest host on SHINDIG??? Yes, Hedy Lamarr....and that's what eventually killed Shindig. They began to have guest hosts. Following Hedy Lamaar was Ed Wynn. I believe he died a few days later. LOL. The producers were negotiating with me to be a regular on the show along with Bobby Sherman and Glen Campbell, but the guest host additive killed the show quickly and it went off the air before I ever got the chance to sign up with them. Another one of my lucky breaks. LOL. Ed Rambeau -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 08:17:34 EST From: Scott Subject: Bernie Schwartz Country Paul: > "Hallucinations" looks pretty good, too; a special nod to Adrian > Pride's "Her Name Is Melody." Written by one of the Everly Brothers, > the vocalist is actually Bernie Schwartz, about whom I raved > recently. Bernie Schwartz has a great (if obscure) LP as well - The Wheel. Think the two guys from Euphoria played on it. Scott -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 05:57:11 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Fishberg Subject: Re: Gigliola Cinquetti and Dio, Come Ti Amo La Cinquetti DID do an English version of this on the flipside of its UK release on UK CBS records. Now, Julio, you can get excited all over again... Michael Fishberg -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 10:24:21 -0800 From: Gary Myers Subject: Bernie Schwartz Country Paul: > ..."Hallucinations" looks pretty good, too; a special nod to Adrian > Pride's "Her Name Is Melody." ... vocalist is actually Bernie > Schwartz, about whom I raved recently. Schwartz' first record was on Tide as Don Atello. I covered him to some extent in a story I did on the Tide label for Goldmine many years ago. I had a very enjoyable with him for the story. Gary Myers / MusicGem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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