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Spectropop - Digest Number 1382



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There are 16 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Hit Parader scans
           From: Phil X. Milstein 
      2. Re: Ron Dante/The Spirit
           From: Bob Rashkow 
      3. Re: Phil Spector Gold Star acetate
           From: Billy G Spradlin 
      4. Re: Ron Dante/The Spirit
           From: Ron Dante 
      5. Re: Verdelle Smith Goes Zonk!!
           From: Steve Crump 
      6. Jason D. Williams
           From: David Walker 
      7. Happy Birthday Paul Evans
           From: Dave O'Gara 
      8. Re: Ron Dante / The Spirit
           From: Laura Pinto 
      9. Re: turntables & 78s
           From: Phil X. Milstein 
     10. "If My World Falls Through"
           From: S.J. Dibai 
     11. Bobby Vee's "Gates, Grills And Railings" LP
           From: S.J. Dibai 
     12. PS sessions
           From: Phil X. Milstein 
     13. Re: John Beland on Big Tree
           From: Clark Besch 
     14. I am SMILEing
           From: James Botticelli 
     15. Re: Roctober
           From: Phil X. Milstein 
     16. The Tammys Go Zonk!!
           From: Mick Patrick 


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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 11:24:29 +0000 From: Phil X. Milstein Subject: Re: Hit Parader scans I think I may've figured out what's going on with the Tokers and Paris Sisters articles I posted to the Photos section, which several people have said were not large enough to read. Yahoo Photos, under certain circumstances at least, actually creates TWO additional levels of photo sizes (both of them successively smaller than the original scan), so that when one clicks the thumbnail version to go to the individual page for that scan one still (again, in certain cases) won't be seeing the fully-sized version. To get to THAT one, click on the View: Full Size button (which is only available on those scans which offer the three tiers). As far as I can see on my end, viewing the the two scans I've tagged with "txt" at the end of their names in Full Size mode will make them quite readable, but if that's still not the case, please let me know -- as Burt Reynolds once sang, I'm gonna keep on doin' it till I get it right. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 11:16:12 EST From: Bob Rashkow Subject: Re: Ron Dante/The Spirit Laura Pinto: > I bid for this very record on eBay a couple of weeks ago...... Yeah, Laura, it really is great -- sorry you couldn't get it and wish I could play it to musica for you. Maybe someone else has it who knows how? It's an expertly crafted piece of 1967 pop mysticism complete with bells, tambourine and absolutely super lead vocals and group harmonies in the background. Haunting minor chord and the grim but hopeful lyric starts, "Preacher's on the corner/Yelling "Doomsday's on its way"...." (...No time to rhyme, no time to reasonnnnn -- Need your love, need your love RIGHT NOW!!!") Why this didn't catch on is a mystery to me, but I know it's one of Ron's efforts with Frost/Greenlight Music on Roulette, and I think he penned and produced several more of these groups around that time too. Maybe Ron still has a copy of it and can spin it for you! Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 21:39:54 -0000 From: Billy G Spradlin Subject: Re: Phil Spector Gold Star acetate I have seen an acetate of radio from the '50s that was cut just like that. Looks to me like it they set the cutter for 45 rpm but ran out of 7" blanks, so they subsituted 10". I hope this is the unreleased Crystals version, which is better than the released Ronettes version. If any Spectropopper wins it, PLEASE play it to musica for us! :) Billy http://listen.to/jangleradio -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 04:43:11 -0000 From: Ron Dante Subject: Re: Ron Dante/The Spirit Bob Rashkow wrote: > Ron Dante, I was listening to The Spirit on Roulette earlier > today. You co-wrote a great, great song called "No Time To Rhyme" > in approximately 1967? I've always loved this record, at least > as much as I love the group of the same name with Jay Ferguson, > Mark Andes et al. I haven't heard this song since it was released back then. If anyone can send me an MP3 I'd appreciate it. Thanks. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 20:47:45 -0000 From: Steve Crump Subject: Re: Verdelle Smith Goes Zonk!! Mick Patrick: > Anyway, to get to the point, the version of "Tar And Cement" > contained on the "Girls Go Zonk!!" CD is about 30 seconds longer > than the original 45. Some of you can now have endless fun > spotting the edits on your old Capitol singles. I'm ashamed to > say that I've never heard the Adriano Celentano version. There > again, I've never had a Pot Noodle. Hi there Mick, I'm glad that the long version Tar and Cement is FINALLY released on CD! This is the version that was a single in Australia, and hit #1 for a while in 1966. When you're used to hearing the "original single", the shorter version comes as a shock! Adriano Celentano's version is much more folky & reflective, with just a guitar strumming in the background. I love it, but it lacks the big build up that Verdelle's version has. By the way, was the original master used for the Zonk!! compilation, or is that a cheeky question?? Cheers Steve -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 19:43:26 +1030 From: David Walker Subject: Jason D. Williams Hi Spectropoppers, I was asked to chase up info on Jason D Williams or is that Jason L Williams. If the name rings a bell, I would appreciate your help. What is he doing now etc., thanks David Walker -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 10:23:06 -0000 From: Dave O'Gara Subject: Happy Birthday Paul Evans Happy Birthday (3/5) and best wishes to "Happy-Go Lucky" Paul Evans! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 11:43:42 -0000 From: Laura Pinto Subject: Re: Ron Dante / The Spirit Bob Rashkow wrote: > Ron Dante, I was listening to The Spirit on Roulette earlier > today. You co-wrote a great, great song called "No Time To Rhyme" > in approximately 1967?... MopTopMike wrote: > I have this record, released in late June 1967...I too would like > to know if this was a studio group, a real gigging/professional > group or garage band... Hi guys, Is there any way this song can be played to musica? Ron and I were talking about the record and he'd like to hear it again to tweak his memory. And me, I'd just like to hear it! Thanks, Laura -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 10:06:23 +0000 From: Phil X. Milstein Subject: Re: turntables & 78s Tom Taber wrote: > If you have never placed a Little Richard 10 inch on a turntable, > and watched the "Specialty" label spin at breakneck speed while he > and his band do the same, you have an area of your life which is > sadly lacking! Country Paul (who also has 3 turntables) replied: > Do Frankie Lymon & The Teenagers 78s on Gee count? Speaking of 78s and turntables, has anyone had any experience with those new 3-speed turntable boxes being sold at Restoration Hardware and the like? They're only about $100 (or maybe $78!), and appealingly retro-looking, but I've hesitated getting one for fear the needles it uses might be on the harsh side. --Phil M. (who remembers turntables with 16-2/3rpm) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 17:31:16 -0000 From: S.J. Dibai Subject: "If My World Falls Through" Bonjour, Spectropoppers. I was wondering if anyone here has the Rose Garden's follow-up to "Next Plane To London," which was called "If My World Falls Through," and if so, how can I get to hear it? I know this song as done by Bobby Vee, but I'm interested in hearing the Garden's version. Thanks, S.J. Dibai -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 17:44:35 -0000 From: S.J. Dibai Subject: Bobby Vee's "Gates, Grills And Railings" LP Hello, again, Spectropoppers. Last weekend, I pulled out an album that, with the exception of one track, I haven't listened to in a few years: Bobby Vee's GATES, GRILLS, AND RAILINGS. I had forgotten how good this LP was. I can't say with certainty, but I'd guess the release date to be late '68 or early '69, as it includes his December '68 charter "(I'm Into Lookin' For) Someone To Love Me," which is about as perfect a slice of late '60s pop-rock as you could ask for. (That's the one track I've played to death.) In my opinion, this album worked so well because Vee managed to get in step with the times without sounding embarrasingly out of place. The album got a little psychedelic here (an arty version of Nilsson's "One"), a little heavy there ("Jenny Came To Me," the Vee- composed "Annie Joined The Band"), but never TOO psychedelic or TOO heavy. Lyrically, it was mature, but again, not so intense that you forgot you were listening to Bobby Vee. The arrangements were superb, all of them by Artie Butler except for the aformentioned single. Artie, if you're reading this, I'd love to know if you have any memories of this album. The LP was really a refreshing change from the overly slick Lincoln Mayorga-arranged stuff Vee had been doing prior to it. It has a nice, warm, friendly feeling to it that makes it one of my favorites. The weakest track was a cover of the John Sebastian-authored "Younger Generation," but even that didn't drag the album down much. Any thoughts from others who have heard this album? Any sales figures? S.J. Dibai -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 12:08:15 +0000 From: Phil X. Milstein Subject: PS sessions Anyone know of a Phil Spector sessionography -- I mean of his performing work, either as guitarist, pianist, vocalist, etc.? Did he did do that sort of thing often, or did his appearances on that side of the glass wane sharply after his early years? Those sessions on which I knew to listen for his playing, especially on guitar, I've really enjoyed, and if I can identify enough of them I might want to gather them all in one place for a more consistent experience. Any guidance toward that end would be most Spectorifically welcome! --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 18:37:35 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Re: John Beland on Big Tree Mark wrote: > Welcome John Beland. I have a single that you did on the label > that I like and from what I understand there was an unreleased > LP. Why didn't the album come out and is there any way to get > a copy? I assume you have "Banjo Man". I think the Lp actually did come out, but I do not have it. Maybe John will answer? I personally would like to have his 60's stuff on Cd, such as the Ranwood 45s and his "Wake Up Sweet Mary" acetate. John?? -Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 15:20:35 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: I am SMILEing A friend who speaks of the Wilson show. ---------- From: Lounge Laura Taylor I was mailed a copy of the SMILE concert in London. I had seen this concert described as one of the most significant events in pop music history. I prayed it wasn't hyperbole. Have any of you heard this? It is truly a marvel. And BRIAN sounds better than I have heard him in forever...his voice was really sweet, high and clear in so many parts...something I am not sure he could have achieved even two years ago. I am thrilled to have the boot and look forward to its legit release! Laura Taylor -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 15:25:21 +0000 From: Phil X. Milstein Subject: Re: Roctober Frank J wrote: > Thanks for the link. To be honest, I'm not THAT much into masked > musicians to buy the roctober issue. Interesting though, that every > single rock'n'roll phenomena has been put under the microscope > already. You ain't just whistlin' Dixie there, Frank: Roctober has done similarly exhaustive surveys of midget musicians, black punk rockers, one-man bands, the monkey-rocknroll connection, etc., etc. They've also done a lot of great, straightforward interviews and career summaries over the years, as well, many of them of the sort of just-under-the-surface-of- stardom acts we Spectropoppers love so well. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 20:01:29 -0000 From: Mick Patrick Subject: The Tammys Go Zonk!! I wrote about the new "Girls Go Zonk!!" CD: > View track list here: http://www.geocities.com/antlion7/tammys.htm Julio Nino: > Guau !, very interesting web page about The Tammys and the turgid > Lou Christie. Thanks Mick. Hola, my Spanish chum with the fab vocab! Yes, isn't it?! (The page, interesting.) And isn't he?! (Lou Christie, turgid.) Girl group anoraks should be aware that the version of the Tammys' "Egyptian Shumba" contained on the "Girls Go Zonk" CD is a previously unissued alternate take. That makes three different versions of this unique track now available on little silver discs. I'm kicking myself that I overlooked the opportunity to juxtapose it and Tracey Dey's "Teenage Cleopatra". To lessen the chances of my middle-aged friends rendering themselves blind over the booklet, here are the germane inches: 1963 was the year of Elizabeth Taylor's epic Cleopatra. It was also the year of THE TAMMYS' sophomore 45 EGYPTIAN SHUMBA, a turntable hit in the Pennsylvania and Ohio areas destined for future cult status in far off places. The Tammys, or the Charnelles, as they billed themselves at their first public appearance, had first befriended local hero Lou Christie after a record hop in 1961. A year later, thanks to 'The Gypsy Cried', Lou was a national star in need of backup girls befitting his new status. Enter sisters Gretchen and Cathy Owens and their pal Linda Jones  the would-be Tammys from Oil City, PA. Christie's sister Amy Sacco was appointed as their manager and chaperone, while Lou and his songwriting collaborator Twyla Herbert set about rehearsing the group on a clutch of new numbers. They dubbed the trio the Twy-Lous and landed them a recording deal with producer Jack Gold at the United Artists label in New York. Re-branded the Tammys, the girls debuted in the summer of 1963 with 'Take Back Your Ring', released simultaneously with 'Lost In The Crowd' on U.A.'s Ascot subsidiary by Ritchie & the Runarounds, alias the Tammys with Kripp Johnson, ex of the Dell-Vikings. Inevitably, much of the Tammys' best vocalising was to be heard on great Lou Christie releases like 'Have I Sinned', 'Back Track' and 'Guitars And Bongos', to name just a few. The group's third 45, 'Hold Back The Light Of Dawn', came out on U.A.'s Veep logo and turned out to be their last. Luckily, both sides of the Tammys' cancelled fourth single were rescued from oblivion on RPM 330 in 2001. Japanese psychobilly girls Bunny Fuzzy revived 'Egyptian Shumba' last year, an indication of the Tammys' lasting and unique appeal. All together now, Shimmy Shimmy Shimmy Shy-Yi Meece-E-Deece! Hey la, Mick Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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