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There are 24 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Female record collectors
           From: P.A. Ferra 
      2. "Up And Down The Dial"
           From: That Alan Gordon 
      3. 'Smile' in the UK
           From: Paul Bryant 
      4. Jerry Naylor, Skyla/Raystar Records
           From: Bob Celli 
      5. John Beland / Jesse Lee Kincaid
           From: Stephane Rebeschini 
      6. Re: An era ends: Relic Rack closing
           From: Phil X. Milstein 
      7. Re: McCoys "Beat the Clock"
           From: Mike McKay 
      8. Coca Cola Commercial. Song ID?!
           From: Christian Steiner 
      9. Arnold's Almanac - Rupert Holmes
           From: Mark Hill 
     10. Here Come The Girls
           From: Vlaovic B 
     11. Trude or Trudy?
           From: Jeff Lemlich 
     12. "Don't Hurt Me" Babbity Blue/Bernadette Carroll same song???
           From: Jeff 
     13. "Son Rumores", Joaquin Prieto and a Spanish cola.
           From: Julio Niño 
     14. Re: Tradewinds
           From: Orion 
     15. Neil Sedaka phones it in
           From: Phil X. Milstein 
     16. Lance Drake letter; Doris Troy; John Beland; "Rumores"; ISO Luvs
           From: Country Paul 
     17. Re: Tradewinds
           From: Fred Clemens 
     18. New Leaders Of The Pack girl group CD
           From: Guy Lawrence 
     19. Re: Jackie Shane
           From: Chris 
     20. Brian Wilson To Release Lost Classic SMiLE In Fall 2004
           From: Neb Rodgers 
     21. Re: Ray Hildebrand
           From: Pres 
     22. Larry Knechtal
           From: Austin Roberts 
     23. Re: Mark Wirtz's new project
           From: Mark Wirtz 
     24. Teddy & the Pandas
           From: Jim Shannon 

Message: 1 Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 01:14:40 -0000 From: P.A. Ferra Subject: Female record collectors Mike Edwards wrote: > If record collecting is the preserve of middle aged > white guys with failing eyesight, why would any girl > want to go there? Paul Bryant: > Yeah Mike but we all used to be young hunky record > collectors, and there still weren't any gals we could > talk about Stax B-sides with. Mike - it is not really the preserve of middle-aged white guys at all! The reason I joined this group is because I can't seem to stop myself from browsing MusicStack for cool vinyl. Paul - maybe we did want to talk about things like Otis & Carla flipsides, but you guys were too shy to ask :) P.A. Ferra -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 18:23:11 -0700 (MST) From: That Alan Gordon Subject: "Up And Down The Dial" Hi Clark, the man who wrote 'Up And Down The Dial', chapter 38, DID NOT meet ME. Garry Bonner would have told me about any legal crap. We NEVER served papers on anyone not even a parrot! I can assure you of this Clark, if I met a guy at a party, who "borrowed" a part of a song of mine I WOULD NOT BE LAUGHING! Best, That Alan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 12:29:17 -0000 From: Paul Bryant Subject: 'Smile' in the UK Just curious - what do American fans think of big Brian doing Smile in the UK before the USA? Speaking as an Englishman it sure seems strange to me. Flattering, but strange. pb -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 14:01:58 -0000 From: Bob Celli Subject: Jerry Naylor, Skyla/Raystar Records Here is an excerpt from an interview John McPhee and I did with Jerry Naylor in the Spring of 2000 in regards to his early recording career. BC. What can you tell us about the Raystar recordings you did using the name Jackie Gerard? JN. I signed with Skyla/Raystar Records in late 1960. The company was owned by a woman named Starla Kay Rindoni. Starla's husband was in the clothing manufacturing business and known to be associated with organized crime, as was my good friend Tony Ferra, who owned the Crossbow Nightclub. Starla Kay was a high priced prostitute in LA and Las Vegas before she married the wealthy Ray Rindoni and started her own record label and production company. She was a wonderful lady, a really good friend to me. I really, really liked her alot. I was introduced to her by Tony Ferra, and began recording for her using my real name, Jerry Naylor. My first record for Skyla was "Stop Your Crying". At the time Jimmy Seals, the sax player for The Champs, wrote two songs for me, "Make Up Your Mind" and "Gonna Find a Love That's True". I loved the songs and recorded them under the name of Jackie Gerard. Jimmy Seals, Dash Croft, Glen Campbell and other musician friends played on the session. "Stop You Crying" was getting airplay on all of the local and regional stations and was on the charts, therefore, I used a different name and released another record at the same time. I guess we thought that two records out at the same time was the thing to do. Ironically, all of this......the success with the recording "Stop Your Crying", and my association with Starla Kay Rindoni, is how I met Danny Whitman, who was also known to have been associated with organized crime figures. As you know, Danny Whitman was the manager of the Crickets, and through him I became lead singer of the group. That's where I'll cut it off as it covers a previous question that came up in the posts. The interview that we did with Jerry was very extensive and covered virtually every aspect of his career. He was most gracious with his time and btw, has a new cd out, and is doing quite well! Bob Celli -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 15:39:56 +0100 From: Stephane Rebeschini Subject: John Beland / Jesse Lee Kincaid Clark Besch a écrit:> > Now playing on Musica is John Beland's great 1969 version > of Jesse Lee Kincaid's "Baby, You Come Rollin' 'Cross my Mind". Hi The former Rising Sons member Jesse Lee Kincaid has his own website and is still working in the music biz. I'm sure that he can answer to your questions about his songs: http://www.jessekincaid.com/index.html Note: his real name is Gerlach, he's the nephew of the great acoustic guitar player Fred Gerlach. Best regards Stephane Rebeschini -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 11:36:41 -0500 From: Phil X. Milstein Subject: Re: An era ends: Relic Rack closing Fred Clemens wrote: > I caught the Collecting Bug there, back in February of 1975. At that > time, Eddie Greise was the owner, along with Donn Filleti, but I > hardly ever saw them. Most of the early memories there were on > weekends, with the likes of Sal Passantino, Jim Hunt, and "Savoy". > All were tremendously helpful with the ins and outs of collecting > records. Jim Hunt was my high school gym teacher. I hated him in that role, as one usually hates one's gym teachers, but learned to respect him later upon learning, shortly after my graduation, that he was a big doo-wop collector, and that he worked weekends at the Relic Rack. Alas, by then I was already living in Mass., and it was too late for me to use the connection to gain entree into Relic's inner sanctum. Too bad, as I could've really used the discounts! --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 14:56:01 EST From: Mike McKay Subject: Re: McCoys "Beat the Clock" Jim Shannon wrote: > Anyone remember the minor hit from the McCoys (on Bang) > called "Beat the Clock". Released in the autumn of '66. A great song that I snapped up immediately on 45 when it came out, even though its time on the radio airwaves was short indeed. The McCoys' Greatest Hits CD out now has the untrimmed version; the 45 was edited. I don't know why this song wasn't a bigger hit; it certainly deserved to be. Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 22:51:57 +0100 From: Christian Steiner Subject: Coca Cola Commercial. Song ID?! Hi! I need help to identificate a song from a Coca Cola Commercial, which could have been seen in German cinemas around the mid- nineties (hopefully in the US as well...). The song sounded like a spacey doo-wop song (if there ever has been such thing and if my memory doesn't play any tricks on me). The scenery was set in a kind of lagoon, one or two people were lying on a raft having a rest with a bottle of Coca Cola besides them, when an elephant swam by and took the bottle with itself. Does anyone know that song? Even the slightest hint would be appreciated. The customer service of Coca Cola didn't care about my question. So you're my only help! Thanks in advance, Krischan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 16:58:13 -0500 From: Mark Hill Subject: Arnold's Almanac - Rupert Holmes >From DJ JJ'S Music Almanac: Celebrating his 57th birthday (Tue 02-24): a great, underrated singer/songwriter: Rupert Holmes- The Buoys' "Timothy," The Street People's "Jennifer Tomkins," his own great 1978-1980 hits... and creator of AMC-TV's "Remember WENN"... "Dr. Mark" Hill -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 18:11:58 -0500 From: Vlaovic B Subject: Here Come The Girls Please can anyone from the UK tell me what is 'pantomime'? It's often used in a disparaging way to suggest what a performer starts doing in the UK was their career veers downward, ie. After she stopped having hits she could have gone the pantomime route, but thankfully didn't'. I assume it's theatre of some sort but it must be more specific to something North Americans don't fully understand. Tell me did Tammy St. John and Mally Page perform the song "Life and Soul of the Party'? I've got a couple of CDs ('Here come the Girls' and the Breakaways) and I think the liner notes suggest both recorded the song (I only knew of Petula Clarks version before), but St. John and Page have such similar voices I can't really tell if they're different or who actually recorded it. Also, I've been trying to pickup the full series of the Pye/Picadilly series "Here Come the Girls" unfortunately it seems that the series is out of print. To this point I've got Vols 1, 04 (more on Vol 4 later), 06 , 08 and 10. Which leaves me lacking all the US girl Group vols (3, 05 , 07 , 09 ) and Volume 2 which I assume is also britchix. I'm unable to find out a track listing for Vol 2, if anyone has it can they email it to me. I'm still scouring ebay and the like for the other vols. And as a final note....I've got two CDs of the series which are ostensibly Vol. 4, but one is listed as Vol. 1 and lacks 3 tracks (Pet Clark, Anita Harris, Angela and the Fans) which are included on the properly labelled Vol 4. Same graphics and all but 3 additional trax, anyone have an answer as to how this situation came about? T'anx -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:18:26 -0500 From: Jeff Lemlich Subject: Trude or Trudy? Can someone please tell me the correct spelling of Trude Heller's name (and her club of the same name)? I seem to recall it being Trude with an E, but I often see it referred to with a Y. I need this information for an article I am writing. Thanks, Jeff Lemlich http://www.limestonerecords.com -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 02:46:31 -0000 From: Jeff Subject: "Don't Hurt Me" Babbity Blue/Bernadette Carroll same song??? I have heard a song by the title "Don't Hurt Me" by Bernadette Carroll, and I wonder if Babbity Blue's (which I have not heard) is the same song. Jeff -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 20:06:07 -0000 From: Julio Niño Subject: "Son Rumores", Joaquin Prieto and a Spanish cola. Hola Everybody. I´ve played to music "Son Rumores" by David Soto, a little piece of Spanish pop prehistory. The song was composed by the Chilean Joaquín Prieto. Although I know it was a hit in Spain at the beginning of the sixties, it is completely forgotten nowadays and I haven´t been able to find any reference of the record. Continuing with songs composed by Joaquín Prieto, while I was searching for "Son Rumores", I found a version of "El Amor" by the Spanish singer Jaime Morey (Phillips EP 436293PE), it was a moderate hit in Spain in the Spring of 1965. I don´t know if this is the original version. This song was covered by Verdelle Smith and The Walker Brothers as "In my Room" ( English Lyrics by Vance / Pockriss), I haven´t heard Verdelle´s version but in my opinion The Walker Brothers´ cover is better by far than Jaime Morey´s. Changing the subject, I´ve enjoyed a lot the story of "the jingle that became a song" by Alan Gordon. It would have been really fun listening to the lyrics of the clear cola in Spain..." I went looking for cola, a different kind of cola...". Note: In Spanish cola is used for the soft drink but it can also mean penis. Chao. Julio Niño. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 20:47:18 -0600 From: Orion Subject: Re: Tradewinds > I worked with the Tradewinds in the late 60's,early 70's on > some demos that John Hill (of Are you Ready fame) and I had > written. They played on them and did all the backgrounds which > made my life a whole lot easier. They sounded great and were > easy to work with. Can't remember which NYC studio we used. This is the non Anders & Poncia Tradewinds, I assume. Austin, did you know either of those two? The music they sang was generally pop sunshine bubblegum. I really enjoy their music. Orion -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 00:03:52 -0500 From: Phil X. Milstein Subject: Neil Sedaka phones it in With Neil Sedaka recently "in the news" 'round Spectro way, I thought it a good time to post -- to musica, of course -- a cute li'l studio bit which catches him recording a promo for Australian radio. Dig, --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 00:31:55 -0500 From: Country Paul Subject: Lance Drake letter; Doris Troy; John Beland; "Rumores"; ISO Luvs Jim Shannon, nice detective work finding Lance Drake and getting the first-person BlueBeats and #1 info.! Great piece on a slice of CT history from before I got there. Mick Patrick, thanks for the additional info and story from Doris Troy re: "Just One Look." All these additional dimensions I never knew.... Clark Besch, http://members.chello.at/thomas.aubrunner/beland.htm is a great site - too much reading for one night! I'm impressed with how many groups he's been with. The record is a bit over-orchestrated, but it is such a great song. And where did that very nice intro come from? Never heard it before. Slightly later in time - is John Beland related to Bob Beland, who did a great indie 45 called "Stealin' Cars" on the Deli Platters label in 1981? By the way, this was the same label that released the original "When Things Go Wrong" by Robin Lane and the Chartbusters, a Boston classic. Julio Nino, thank you for the David Soto post to musica. It's the same "Rumores" as Antonio Prieto, but a much smoother and more middle-road version. Re-extending the offer I made regarding the Clusters, if someone in the US (or overseas) is interested and has the tech available to post to musica, I'll send a tape dub of those songs and any others I have that folks want to hear. Me yesterday, re: Relic Rack: > Depending on my work schedule, I hope to get there > tomorrow. I'll post what I find. The sign on the door said they were supposed to be open. They were closed. Will try again. IN SEARCH OF: The Luvs, "We Kiss In The Shadows." I have an mp3, but wonder if it made it to a CD. (I'm told the original 45 is thoroughly prohibitive costwise!) Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 07:49:00 -0000 From: Fred Clemens Subject: Re: Tradewinds Phil Hall wrote: > I was listening to some Tradewinds tunes recently, and while > a lot of it was the familiar East Coast surf 'n' hot-rod stuff > (The Girl From Greenwich Village, Party Starts At Nine, etc.), > some it was a very different, doo-wop sound. According to > allmusic.com, the are the same group, but I don't think so. > Angletone records, who the doo-wop Tradewinds recorded for, > did most of their work in the 50's. Can anyone provide any > further enlightenment? The Tradewinds that you speak of had earlier ties with the Videls, who were noted for "Mister Lonely" and "Now That Summer Is Here" on the JDS label, as well as recording for the Rhody ("Be My Girl") and Kapp ("A Letter From Anne") labels. The significant members were Peter Andreoli (aka Pete Anders) and Vinnie Poncia. I don't believe they are related to the Angletone Tradewinds. Fred Clemens -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 13:32:39 -0000 From: Guy Lawrence Subject: New Leaders Of The Pack girl group CD Universal's two CD, TV advertised girl group compilation, "Leaders Of The Pack", that I mentioned here a week or so ago, has had it's release date put back 'til next Monday (March 1st) due to a manufacturing problem. I'll post a tracklisting if I can get hold of one before then. Guy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 06:32:04 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: Chris Subject: Re: Jackie Shane Damien on Jackie Shane: > Openly gay, [Shane] was considered "risque" > at the time. "Any Other Way" was considered > his lifestyle statement as well as his major > single release. Could his "Stand Up Straight And Tall" also be considered a "lifestyle statement"? Shane was unknown to me until I started encountering S'Pop references. My knowledge of his recordings is still only second- hand, but ... sounds to me as if there's someone here of distict Gay Pride (or, if you will, "Lifestyle Statement" Pride) interest. Standin' In The Shadow of Pride, Chris -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:49:39 -0800 (PST) From: Neb Rodgers Subject: Brian Wilson To Release Lost Classic SMiLE In Fall 2004 Hey, 37 years later is better than not at all! -Neb ---Fowarded Message--- Brian Wilson To Release Lost Classic SMiLE In Fall 2004; Reconstructed Album Performed Live For First Time In London Perhaps the most highly-regarded unreleased record in rock history, the Beach Boys' SMiLE, is reportedly getting its official release 37 years after its creation, in fall 2004. According to a recent report from BBC News Online: "A few months ago Wilson revisited the SMiLE tapes in Capitol Records' vaults and went on to finish the album with his original lyricist, Van Dyke Parks." read on here- http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/news/04-02/24.shtml -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 09:49:59 -0500 From: Pres Subject: Re: Ray Hildebrand Hugo M. wrote: > In fact, the only one I see him credited with is being the > "Paul" of Paul And Paula. He and Jill Jackson recorded the > song on a local label, first as "Jill And Ray",and then when > it was reissued on Philips Records as "Paul And Paula". Not only fairly new to this group - I love this - but also way behind in reading... Thank you for answering a question that's been making me crazy since my recent purchase of "Touch The Wall Of Sound Vol. 3". - Why did I know the voice of Jill Jackson's "Here Comes The Night"? It's amazing how pieces of info fall into place in this group! pres -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 11:08:42 EST From: Austin Roberts Subject: Larry Knechtal Clark Besch: > Austin, who does the great organ work? Anyway, great song. > Also, is it me or does anyone else think of the Association's > intro of "No Fair at All" when putting the Arkade's "Morning > of Our Lives" on the turntable? Both great songs! Hey Clark, Thanks for the Life Is For Living plug.. Steve Barri planned to build me as a solo as well as with the Arkade and this was the first and only, I believe, single we did on me before he who shall not be named (not Steve) changed the whole deal on me and I left. Sometimes a handshake just gives you warts. The organ work was none other than Larry Knechtal; he probably did the early Association keyboard as I know he put the incredible organ ending on Never My Love. As far as the intro to Morning Of Our Lives, Barri had a great feel for intros as did Jimmie Haskel, so I'm not sure about that one. AR -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 09:41:34 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Wirtz Subject: Re: Mark Wirtz's new project Hey, Country Paul, Thank you so much for your response and review of L2LWL. Yours is in fact the very first "audience reaction" that I have had in on this, so the fact that it is positive had me pass a deep sigh of relief, and crack a beer, LOL. In fact, I think I'll frame it :) Your observations about the BB, Macca etc. elements are most appropriate. The fact is that L2LWL (as applies to the majority of the album) is a transitional "hello I'm back, please come aboard and join me on the the new journey ahead" party. As such, it contains many echoes of my past work (for my old fans) as well as signs of things to come (for hopefully new ones). As such, L2LWL is in fact a shameless salute to all my past heroes, from Spector to the above mentioned, wrapped in my own idiosyncratic style (of which I am not conscious). But - stand by. If L2LWL offers smiles (pun respectfully intended), Anthony Rivers' "Sanctuary" will guarantee goose bumps. Unlike ambitious yet low-carb, low cal, "lite" L2LWL, it is melodic, yet uncompromising, on the edge and in your face neo Rock. This time, I went all the way, and with audio and musician genius Phil Hadaway's help, actually (and allegorically) put the end of the world on record, with only Anthony's stirring performance resonating as a symbol of hope and optimism about the future. None of that Grocer Jack fairy tale stuff spoken here! Thank you again for your kind comments, Paul. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that many music lovers will feel the same. Warm best, Mark w :) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 21:05:44 -0000 From: Jim Shannon Subject: Teddy & the Pandas This could be a hard find, but I would like to include the Teddy and Pandas' pop song "Once Upon a Time" in the reconstruction of my music library. I believe it was released in the summer of '66 or maybe '67. A forgotten 45 for sure. believe they were a Boston home grown band. For that matter, I still need Orpheus "Can't Find the Time" as well. Still on the subject of garage bands, anyone know the real reason Wand re-issued Kingmen "Louie Louie, '64.'65, '66. It's original release was in '63 so that makes four consecutive years in a row. Jim Shannon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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