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Spectropop - Digest Number 1362

               SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop!

There are 21 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: "Here Comes The Judge"
           From: Phil X. Milstein 
      2. Everpresent Fullness
           From: Rich 
      3. Re: Jeanette
           From: Frank J. 
      4. Alzo Fronte Radio Spotlight Show
           From: Patrick Rands 
      5. Re: Larry & The Legends
           From: Harry Jay 
      6. Al Kooper, Alan Gordon,  Ed Rambeau and Paul Evans records
           From: Clark Besch 
      7. Brian Wilson in Mojo
           From: Kurt 
      8. Re: The Movies / Mad Lads
           From: Art Longmire 
      9. Re: Ron Dante; Archies
           From: Laura Pinto 
     10. Re: Happy (Songwriters) Together
           From: That Alan Gordon 
     11. Andy Kim Audio Interview
           From: Laura Pinto 
     12. Re: Sugar & the Spices
           From: Dan N. 
     13. Re: Sugar & the Spices
           From: Jan Kristensen 
     14. Jeanette & Twinkle
           From: Mick Patrick 
     15. Bob Miranda; "Rumores" and promises; Mary Wells; Tokens; early Newton; Mike Nesmith
           From: Country Paul 
     16. P.F. Sloan and Herman's Hermits
           From: Dan Hughes 
     17. Re: BlueBeats / Movies
           From: Bill Craig 
     18. Re: Happy Together
           From: Javed Jafri 
     19. Skyla label; Tim Buckley; Barry & Tamerlanes; tape; Du-Tones; Del Vikings
           From: Country Paul 
     20. Cinnamon Square, Doris Troy, SGC, Buckley & DeVorzon
           From: Bob Rashkow 
     21. The Diplomats, Van McCoy and a psychiatrist
           From: Mick Patrick 

Message: 1 Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 18:32:02 +0000 From: Phil X. Milstein Subject: Re: "Here Comes The Judge" Art Longmire wrote: > Regarding the origin of "Here Comes the Judge", it was Pigmeat > Markham who originated the routine, although he may not have > recorded it first (Shorty Long may have gotten it on vinyl first). > I used to love the Judge routine by all the performers! Speaking > of early rap, another "performer" who rarely gets mentioned is > radio preacher Reverend Ike-anyone else remember him? I have an > EP of his from the late 60's and it's (unintentionally) hilarious, > with phrases like: "God will...SOOTHE your nerves!" The thread on the origin of Here Comes The Judge caused me to pull out my copy of a book by the same name (with ! added), by Pigmeat Markham with Bill Levinson. Although on the surface nothing more than a thin, quickie paperback issued in 1969 to cash in on Markham's "overnight" success via Laugh-In, it is in fact a lively and articulate -- and very funny -- recounting of Markham's 50-year-long career in show business. As such, it is the best and most thorough first-hand account I've ever read of the history of black entertainment in America ranging from the late minstrel era, through the chitlin circuit era, and on into household-name status. Markham's stories glint with such now-legendary names as Peg Leg Bates, Dusty Fletcher, John Mason (who, according to Markham, originated the Open The Door, Richard routine that Fletcher made famous, and which Markham himself also recorded), Ma Rainey, Butterbeans & Suzy, Mantan Moreland, TOBA (the chitlin circuit booking agency whose actual name was Theater Owners Booking Assoc., but which its clients often preferred to call Tough On Black Asses), Club 81 in Atlanta (which I suspect was the source of the mysterious The 81 dance), Sweet Mama Stringbean (aka Ethel Waters), Crack Shot Hackley, etc., etc. Anyhoo, getting 'round to the point, Markham states that the HCTJ routine achieved national notoriety in 1968, 40 years after he first created it, starting when Sammy Davis, Jr. performed a version of it on Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In, the #1-rated show in the country at the time. Rather than it being a swipe of another performer's signature, however, Sammy intended it as a tribute to Markham, and once it caught on it invigorated Markham's career, incited him to write and record his Chess 45 of the same title, and finally, with Sammy's help, he was invited to start doing it himself on Laugh-In. Sammy, of course, was "born in a trunk," and was nothing if not the ultimate fan of other performers. Given that, according to Markham's memoir, "I carried him around in my arms backstage when he was only two months old and his Mommy was out there dancing as a chorus girl," Sammy and Pigmeat had long had an especially close bond. Markham very clearly and convincingly claims the Judge routine as of his own invention, born at the Alhambra Theatre in New York in 1928. He adds to that the story of how, in 1935, he also invented the Truckin' dance, an immensely popular dance (based, if I'm not mistaken, on the old Cakewalk, of turn-of-the-century fame) that didn't fully break across to a white audience until R. Crumb's Keep On Truckin' poster of the late 1960s (and, of course, only in remnant form even then). Finally, Markham also makes a case that Sock It To Me was already a common expression among blacks when he was a kid. I'll wrap up this dusty history lesson with a brief sampling of Markham's Judge routine. Keep in mind that most of his gags benefit greatly from his brilliant delivery! Judge: Do you know what the penalty is for bigamy? Defendant: I sure do, judge -- two mothers-in-law! Order in the court, --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 04:58:25 EST From: Rich Subject: Everpresent Fullness I found this on eBay and thought it might make an interesting read for list members: Everpresent Fullness -- Fine And Dandy: The Complete Recordings Never mind a "lost album"....a whole lost band! Formed by once-and- future members of The Belairs, Thorinshield and The Turtles, Everpresent Fullness were HOT on the Sunset Strip scene, and toured/ played live with the Turtles, Jefferson Airplane, Sir Douglas Quintet, Love and Buffalo Springfield -- the whole jingle-jangle- morning sketch as advertised. Signing to White Whale in 1966, the obligatory middle range hit single (Wild About My Lovin") and friendships/collaborations with the hot young songwriters on the lot, Warren Zevon and Paul Williams, boded well for their forthcoming album, produced by the legendary Bones Howe. Indeed there was some great material being put down, but somehow Everpresent Fullness fell out with the owners of White Whale in a spectacular way, their album was cancelled, everything was dropped, the band disintegrated under the strain, and became an all but forgotten footnote. Curiouser was the eventual release in 1970 of *an* album, the third to last release on the label actually, pressed in the low hundreds to satisfy a contractual/legal requirement. By this time, very few people indeed cared -- an appalling fate for a key Sunset Strip artifact, even in its mutilated form much sought- after in later years, but now we have reconstructed the album as it would have been. A Sunset Strip classic, pitched between The Poor, The Turtles and Buffalo Springfield, with the poppy edge that should have brought a dozen hits and never-before-heard early pop gems from Zevon and Williams. A must-have for all fans of west coast pop ... beautiful! AMG bio: Los Angeles canyon-rock quintet the Everpresent Fullness comprised singer/guitarist Tom Carvey, lead guitarist Paul Johnson, bassist Steve Pugh, drummer Terry Hand and multi-instrumentalist Jack Ryan. Formed in 1965, the group fused elements of pop, country-rock and even ragtime, often sharing the stage with kindred spirits like the Buffalo Springfield and the Sir Douglas Quintet. Opening slots for the Turtles earned the Everpresent Fullness the attention of White Whale Records, and their Warren Zevon-penned debut single, "Wild About My Lovin'," followed in 1966. The group reached the apex of their career that summer, beginning work on a full-length LP and opening for Love at San Francisco's legendary Fillmore in August. However, White Whale mysteriously cut off funding prior to the album's completion, and after issuing one more single, "Darlin' You Can Count on Me," the Everpresent Fullness dissolved. tracks: Fine and Dandy / Wild About My Lovin / Leavin' California / You're So Fine / Rider / The Way She Is / My Girl Back Home / Darlin' You Can Count On Me / Yeah! / Sometimes I Don't Know Where I'm Bound / Lonesome Tears / The Rovin' Kind / La Do Da Da / Suzie Q / It's All Over Now, Baby Blue / Doin' A Number -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 17:26:35 +0100 From: Frank J. Subject: Re: Jeanette Julio Niño: > Frank, "Me olvidarás" was the A-side of Picnic´s third and last > single. The song was also included in their only LP. It´s a rather > forgotten song but I like it. I think that in Picnic´s records > Jeanette sounded authentically innocent, in later recordings > (including the Andre Popp´s productions you cited) she sounded > like she might be innocent. I like both: ingenuity and faux- > ingenuity. Julio, I totally agree with you. I also like both ways. It´s the same with Claudine, by the time of her fifth album I´m afraid she was not that naive anymore but I still liked her singing style then (and yes for me she does sing). Given that Jeanette was 10 years older when she hit with "Por que te vas" I think the record guys wanted her to sound like she was still 18. What a good idea. Frank J. p.s.: is the Picnic album out on CD? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 17:37:00 -0000 From: Patrick Rands Subject: Alzo Fronte Radio Spotlight Show I wanted to remind everyone to tune into the Alzo Fronte radio spotlight show this Friday night, 06 -7 PM (Eastern) on 90.3 WZBC FM in the Boston area. I think but I'm not sure that our online streaming audio might be down, but you could check to see if it's working: Later, the shows usually get archived here: I'll send a message when the show gets archived. I think those of you who dig the jazzier side of things (like the Bob Dorough productions) would really like Alzo's music. It was a sad day earler this month when Alzo passed away, so it's all the more important now to get his music heard in his honor. I'm really hoping a domestic release of his music could happen, maybe even a tribute cd with modern day artists recording his music (I think his song So Glad would be perfect for a band like Saint Etienne) could happen. His music and talent was that good I think. Well, tune in to hear Alzo's music and keep an eye out for his reissued cds. :Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:34:05 -0700 (Mountain Standard Time) From: Harry Jay Subject: Re: Larry & The Legends Hi Ken, Regarding the CD in question, "Tony & the Holidays", it's definitely on Doowop Shoobop, click on "Vocal groups" & scroll down, we are 4th from the top. As far as the 4 Seasons, yes Larry & the Legends were just 4 regular guys & we were asked to record 9 songs of which 8 of them are still in the vault, as far as I know, unless they were released on some compilation CD. The one song, "Don't pick on my baby", sounded somewhat like a 4 Seasons tune, but it wasn't them. Good luck. Harry -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 18:09:36 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Al Kooper, Alan Gordon, Ed Rambeau and Paul Evans records Hi, was just going thru 45s looking for one I couldn't find (as usual) and came across several relating to our SPop stars. If any non-Cd ones listed are needed by any of you, I can put on Musica (complete with vinyl pops!!). Sorry if any of the following has been addressed earlier. For Al Kooper, do you know why the B side of "This Diamond Ring" was replaced? Originally, it was "Hard to Find" written by Leroy Vinnegar, but was quickly replaced by "Tijuana Wedding", thus making "Hard to Find".....hard to find! Seeing that the 2nd B side was written by Gary Lewis (hmm??) and arranger Leon Russell, could it be because Jerry Lewis or someone smarter about the money situation, said, "Hey, we can get writing royalties if we replace the B side our our hit with one we wrote"?? Also, it must have been a little disappointing that both versions of the "Ring" 45 have Kooper listed as "Kooder". Then, when the cool little pic sleeve 45 of Gary's "Doin the Flake" became available, "This Diamond Ring" was on the B side. This time they got "Kooper" right, but it was listed as "I. Kooper-B. Brass-I. Levine". Apparently, spelling was not a big thing at Liberty, as the original "Ring" 45 had "Bras" as co-writer, also. Next, I ran across an Alan Gordon related 45 by the Lovin' Spoonful. "(Til I) Run With You" was the Gordon/Bonner penned A side, with "Revelation: Revolution, 69" as the B side. That was Kama Sutra 251. Then, I have "Revelation..." as a pic sleeve A side by the Spoonful's Joe Butler on KS 264! They must be different recordings, because one is 30 seconds longer than the other. Kinda odd. 3 other 45's I found that I am offering to Musica if needed: When You Wore a Tulip/Those Golden Oldies - Marcy Jo & Eddie Rambeau (Swan 4136) Children - Robert John (Columbia 44639) Produced by Al Kooper! Like the cool phasing (?) at end. Thunderbolt - Sammy Turner & the Twisters (Big Top 3007) doowopper written by Paul Evans and Paul Parnes, prod by Leiber & Stoller. Just seems like every time I leaf thru some 45's, I see SPoppers names! Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 12:06:17 -0800 From: Kurt Subject: Brian Wilson in Mojo For those who only occasionally visit their local magazine stand, this would be a good time to head down there. The March issue of Mojo Magazine has a good interview with Brian Wilson regarding "Smile" and the current "Smile" mini-tour of the UK. Further proof that miracles (musical or otherwise) do happen. look, listen, Kurt -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 21:23:54 -0000 From: Art Longmire Subject: Re: The Movies / Mad Lads Jim Shannon wrote: > While we're onto obscure bands, anyone remember The Mad > Lads "I Wanna Girl"? Hello Jim, I love the Mad Lads, I just wish I had more records and CDs by them. I have the "I Want A Girl" 45 on Volt, but I like the flip side "What Will Love Tend To Make You Do" even more-especially the last guitar note that the group's guitarist plays on the fade-out. Unfortunately I haven't seen this song on any of the group's CDs. Other songs I can think of offhand are beautiful tunes like "Come Closer To Me" and of course their big hit (at least I think it was big) "Don't Have To Shop Around Anymore". This Memphis group had a really great doo-wop influence, I really like their lead singer's high tenor voice. Speaking of Memphis vocal groups on Stax, another one I like is the Astors who did the terrific "Candy" back around 1965 or '66. I have this 45, but have never heard any of the group's other songs. Art Longmire -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 21:38:20 -0000 From: Laura Pinto Subject: Re: Ron Dante; Archies Billy G. Spradlin wrote, of "Strangers In The Morning": > A great record, but the subject matter is a little um..."mature" > for a bubblegum record. Visions of Archie and Betty (or another > girl?) waking up together after a wild night? I think it would > have fared well on Top 40 as a Ron Dante record. Clark Besch responded: > Billy, maybe it's an answer record!! "Who's your baby in the > morning, who's your baby at night...." :) Hi Clark, Don't know about that ... if you listen to the words of "Who's Your Baby," they're still going at it in the morning, not turning away from one another! (IMHO, "Who's Your Baby" is one of the sexiest songs ever written by either Jeff Barry OR Andy Kim, much less recorded by The Archies ... and hopefully a big THANK-YOU to Ron Dante and Donna Marie will do them fine!) Laura :) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:38:29 -0700 (MST) From: That Alan Gordon Subject: Re: Happy (Songwriters) Together Al Kooper, I know you are jesting when refering to BMI performances etc. I`am not jesting when I tell you that if my old group the Magicians were lucky enough to have you as a producer we would not have disappeared. You have been a real guidpost to all of us in the rough and tumble world of rock n roll, and someone who I really respect. Best, That Alan [composer of "My Heart Belongs To Me", the publishing belongs to them] -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 23:38:58 -0000 From: Laura Pinto Subject: Andy Kim Audio Interview Hi S'poppers, For all the Andy Kim fans out there, check out his new online audio interview with my friend Bette from Track One Enjoy! Laura -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 00:52:53 EST From: Dan N. Subject: Re: Sugar & the Spices Mick Patrick on Suger & the Spices: > Where were they from? What were their names? Does anyone have a > picture of the group? Sugar & the Spices were Corky Casey (producer-guitarist Al Casey's wife) and Carol Roberts (the first Mrs. Duane Eddy). The same bunch, including Al, also recorded an LP for Time as the Raintree County Singers. The Stacy record was cut at Audio Recorders of Arizona in Phoenix. The great "Boys Can Be Mean" on Vee-Jay probably was, too. (I can't remember for sure off of the top of my head.) Al grew up and was based in Phoenix, but went back and forth to L.A. to play sessions until the mid-1960s, when he relocated there. He's now back in Phoenix, teaching guitar at a music store. Dan N. Phoenix, Arizona, U.S.A. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 07:43:15 +0100 From: Jan Kristensen Subject: Re: Sugar & the Spices Mick Patrick on Suger & the Spices: > Where were they from? What were their names? Does anyone have a > picture of the group? I got two names but I don't know from which source. According to my database Sugar and the Spices are: Corky Casey and Carol Eddy. JanK -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 00:40:37 -0000 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Jeanette & Twinkle Hola, Any Twinkle fans out there? If so, I'd recommend visiting musica and taking a listen to "Me Olvidaras" by Picnic featuring Jeanette, Spain's 'queen of whispers'. Gorgeous strings and very Twinkle-ish vocals, yet not at all flat :-) Paris Sisters fans might also enjoy: Talking of Twinkle, her long lost "Michael Hannah" LP, recorded as a tribute to her real life dead boyfriend but never released, is out now on Acrobat: "Michael Hannah: The Lost Years" (ACFCD 001). Was it worth the 30 year wait? Yes. Is it cheap? Not in some stores, so shop around. One of these days I'll find time to read the booklet, all 36 pages of it. And once you've heard "Me Olvidaras", don't forget to check out: Hey la, Mick Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 19:18:31 -0500 From: Country Paul Subject: Bob Miranda; "Rumores" and promises; Mary Wells; Tokens; early Newton; Mike Nesmith Bill Craig Re: "Girl On A Swing" > it was originally done by NJ's The Happenings and written by > members of that group...(Bobby Miranda, Bernie La Porta?, > I can't remember) Bob Miranda, Bill; it's a highlight of the B. T. Puppy CD that just came out (which I reviewed for S'pop). Julio Niño re: "Son Rumores" > Paul, "Son Rumores" is a song composed by Joaquin Prieto > (Antonio's brother). The song was a big hit in Spain at the > beginning of the sixties in the version by David Soto, I > haven't heard Antonio Prieto's version. I think I have > David Soto's record somewhere, if you are interested I can > play for you. Julio, it would be wonderful if you could post it to musica, or else send me a tape or CD copy. In return, I can send you a tape of Antonio Prieto's version. I don't have the facility to post to musica or burn vinyl to CD yet. But you'll be joining a bit of a line of promised tapes (to all I made promises, I'm working on it!) And thank you for the background on the song; it's very cool to know after 43 years what it is I've been liking! :-) Simon White (the following three quotes): > Isn't the story somewhere along the lines of this - there were > 15 takes of this song and they used the last one where Mary's > voice was hoarse. She never sounded quite as rough as this again! Indeed she didn't; the rawness and tension are incredible. Ironically sad that she died of throat cancer. > ...[O]ne track, "Bye Bye Baby", is credited to The Channels > but is the Mary Wells track, miscredited. I didn't realise this > for many years. The Channels' own song of the same name is one of their best uptempo tracks, IMO. > Is that Neil Sedaka singing lead with the Tokens? And if so, who were The Tokens? It is Sedaka; I don't know the entire makeup of The Tokens, but I believe the Margo brothers were there by that time and Jay Siegal was not. Dan N. [of Phoenix]: > For anybody who's interested in Wayne Newton's "very early and > very credible rockabilly work with his brother Jerry," Bear > Family Records of Germany is set to release...the definitive CD > collection of his Phoenix-based Newton Rascals era...."Wayne Newton > featuring the Newton Brothers: The Real Thing 1954 to 1963." It > stops short of the Capitol single that has been talked about here... "The Real Thing" is a super doo-wop track, which could well be worth hearing if you're into group harmony - it sounds like Wayne, all right, but the context is pretty amazing. I could be on board for this.... Art Longmire to me, Re: Progressive Monkees: > Your assessment of the Monkees and Michael Nesmith was very well > put....[O]n those few occasions when I watched the TV show, I > remember always thinking Mike Nesmith was very cool. In 1970 when > I started buying records, his song "Joanne" was a huge favorite of > mine (I love the pastoral romanticism of the song).... He had that romanticism even in the group. Thanks to a friend, I have a compilation of songs he either wrote (2/3 of it) or sang (the other 1/3) which I was listening to again today. Some of the arrangements are a bit dated, to be sure, but the songs sure do stand up well, a few even begging for remakes. (Lots could be re-done as "new country" and give his songwriting - heck, even his own bad self - a whole new career boost!) Jeff Lemlich, thanks for digging around re: the Kleen-Kuts. Another phantom.... Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 19:03:35 -0600 From: Dan Hughes Subject: P.F. Sloan and Herman's Hermits Found this story on a web site about South African music; hadn't heard it before and thought the group would find it interesting: The popularity of PF Sloan compositions in South Africa were now almost a given and he subsequently impressed another man with strong South African ties, Mickey Most, who requested him to write a song for Herman's Hermits. "I wrote the song downstairs in the dressing room of a sunset strip rock club. Donovan was performing that night and his manager Mickey asked me if I would write a song called "A Must To Avoid" for the Hermits movie...problem was he was leaving the following day and needed it right away... I went downstairs and borrowed one of Donovan's guitars and sketched out the song...The next day I told Barri about it and he helped with some of the lyrics...I cut a rough demo on it and gave it to Mickey...." ---Dan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 01:54:59 -0000 From: Bill Craig Subject: Re: BlueBeats / Movies Jim Shannon wrote: > ...Not ready to give up his beloved band, Griffen once again > changed the name of the group in early '69 to The Movies and > released another single but it failed to chart in major markets. > The Movies disbanded by mid '69 and faded into obscurity. I'm assuming these Movies were not the band from the '70s who had a tune called "Dancing On Ice"? I think they were an east coast band. Bill Craig -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 23:14:03 -0500 From: Javed Jafri Subject: Re: Happy Together That Alan Gordon on Happy Together: > production of the record by Joe Wissert and Chip Douglas's > input and of course the Turtles make that record a masterpiece, > the song is good but the record production is special. As far > as how many times it has been played according to BMI it has > now passed the 6 million performance plateau in the USA. And > everytime I hear it I say AMEN!!! The one thing I have to say about Happy Together is that it truly does have universal appeal. Even the classic rock station here in Toronto Q107 spins it now and then. I have to add that it is one of the very few beaten to death oldies that I don't turn the knob on or fast forward when it takes it's turn on CD. That is more than I can say for Satisfaction, Yesterday, Good Vibrations, Hey Jude, Sherry, Be My Baby, Proud Mary, Light My Fire etc. etc. etc........ Javed -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 00:58:55 -0500 From: Country Paul Subject: Skyla label; Tim Buckley; Barry & Tamerlanes; tape; Du-Tones; Del Vikings Mike Edwards: > Raul Abeyta? Great songwriter. My favorite by him is "Stop Your > Crying" (US Skyla, 1961) by one time post-Buddy Holly Cricket, > Jerry Naylor. Not a hit anywhere but a top quality teen 45. Suddenly this label comes to the fore; I have Bob Lee, "You Mostest Girl" and "Uh Oh" on Skyla, #1117, and have been playing it again since Bobby Lee Trammell (Bob Lee) has been discussed here recently. Anyone have a lead to a label discography? Who owned it? What's its story? Bill Craig: > Having always thought their voices were somewhat alike I was amazed > when at the end of one Monkees episode Mickey's off camera voice out > of nowhere says: "Ladies and gentlemen, Tim Buckley" and T. appears > and performs one of his songs. Does anyone remember this? I can't > remember which song he did. Bill, thanks for your reflections on Mike Nesmith and the Monkees - and on Tim Buckley. Never saw that show, but I had the pleasure of meeting Tim and Linda Ronstadt and the original Stone Poneys (just before their recording of Nesmith's "Different Drum" hit) backstage at a club in New York. All were really nice people - and Linda was gorgeous. (It wasn't politically incorrect to notice at that time.) Rashkovsky: > I recently had the chance to speak with Barry DeVorzon on the > phone. Very nice guy. I never heard anything by Barry and The > Tamerlanes, but I understand that was him as a youngster. You never heard "I Wonder What She's Doing Tonight" or "Roberta" or "Pretty Things"? Get thee to a listening booth, my friend! Great creative early 60's pop music. They, The Cascades and Shelby Flint were Valiant Records' major raisons d'etre. (For a Canadian compilation of Barry & The Tamerlanes and The Cascades, check out Nick Archer, thank you for the textbook on baking tape at It will help me with the many boxes of old 7-inch reels in the basement that are crying for rescue. Art Longmire: > Another great Judge recording, the funniest of all in my > opinion, is "Divorce Court" by the Five Du-Tones (the flip > side of their hit "Shake a Tail Feather"). Two top-shelf tracks there, Art. Whatever became of the Five Du-Tones? Anyone know? Mark Hi,, re: Cool Shakes: > Well, this has the almost the right title and is east coast > and the right time period. Though the Top Pop book usually > denotes if there is a commercial jingle tie-in. This entry > doesn't. Any connection??? Any help??? No connection, unless they named the drink after the record. The Del Vikings' "Cool Shake" on Mercury, which is not the commercial, is a subtly rockin' track, with some nice instrumental support, good lead work by Kripp Johnson, and some neat bass singing ("Ali Baba-nooski, Ali Baba-noo...."). This was one of two Del Vikings groups formed when the original 5-some split up after "Come Go With Me"; the other group did the great "Whispering Bells" on Dot. Ali Babanooski, y'all, Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 01:14:17 EST From: Bob Rashkow Subject: Cinnamon Square, Doris Troy, SGC, Buckley & DeVorzon My DJ copy of Cinnamon Square on Roulette is shown as by "The Moovees" penned by group member Christopher Covell. Suspect the '69 band "The Movies" unless they changed the spelling after they were The Blue Beats is a different group altogether. Cinnamon Square, going by the serial #, looks to be from about the summer of 1968. BTW, it's a terrific record, as is the flip, "Little Boy Blue (Little Girl's Green)". Sad to say farewell to Doris Troy. I'm curious to get into her mid-to-late sixties recordings including her Calla entry. SGC Records lasted but a short while, and must have been a label exclusively for artists whose songs were published by Screen Gems- Columbia. Aside from The Nazz, none other than Neil Sedaka made a brief appearance on the label in around '68, as did The Will-O- Bees, who only charted on Date with their wonderful "It's Not Easy." Tim Buckley was the Man. Barry DeVorzon and Bodie Chandler's glorious "I Wonder What She's Doing Tonight"--a spine-tingler of a tune. A true 1963 relic which climbed the charts at the time of JFK's assassination......& not to dredge up an ancient fossil, but I'm still "wondering" if anyone knows of Boyce & Hart trying to obliterate Barry's triumph by writing and performing another successful song with the same name, or can we pretty much say that it was just another strange 6Ts pop coincidence!!! Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 01:13:21 -0000 From: Mick Patrick Subject: The Diplomats, Van McCoy and a psychiatrist Julio Niqo: > ... mention of The Diplomats and Van McCoy in some messages these > days have brought to my mind "Can't Get You Off My Mind" a great > song by The Diplomats included in an old Ace Records compilation, > the song is uncredited in the compilation but when I listen to it > I always think of Van McCoy ... I have to ask my psychiatrist > about this. Hola, Oh dear, that sounds like an Ace compilation I don't own. Rats! What's the title please? Van McCoy was from Washington, DC, as were the Diplomats. Van did write some songs for the group, and produced them too. He also composed a song entitled "Can't Get HER Off My Mind", but I'm not aware of a recorded version. Could that be what the Diplomats are singing? Maybe Ace got the title incorrect. The Diplomats will be performing in the UK in a few months time. By then they'll have their own CD out on Kent/Ace, I hear. But to be on the safe side, Julio, I'll send you the number of my analyst. Hey la, Mick Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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