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Spectropop - Digest Number 1361

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There are 14 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Popcorn / & Cluster / & the flames went higher
           From: Phil X. Milstein 
      2. Re: Pat Boone 45 "Beach Girl"
           From: Eddy Smit 
      3. Re: Valiant Association / BobbyHart@65 / Tandyn Almer
           From: Austin Roberts 
      4. Re: Yiddishisms
           From: Chris A. Schneider 
      5. Re: The Movies / Mad Lads
           From: Jim Shannon 
      6. Re: Ron Dante; Archies
           From: Clark Besch 
      7. Re: Larry Hall album
           From: Jan Kristensen 
      8. Re: Happy (Songwriters) Together / At This Stage Of The Game
           From: Al Kooper 
      9. Da Doo Ron Ron soundalike
           From: Craig Davison 
     10. Re: Before & After/Chad & Jeremy
           From: Clark Besch 
     11. Re: Happy Together and Valentine's Day
           From: Joe Nelson 
     12. Sugar & the Spices
           From: Mick Patrick 
     13. Doris Troy R.I.P.
           From: Artie Wayne 
     14. "Cherry", Darlene McCrea, The Diplomats and a psychiatrist.
           From: Julio Niño 

Message: 1 Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 11:43:48 +0000 From: Phil X. Milstein Subject: Re: Popcorn / & Cluster / & the flames went higher Clark Besch wrote: > Now playing to Musica is Tim Wilde's "Too Many Questions" > written by Artie Wayne and Mark Barkan. It is the B side > ("B" standing for "better" in this case) of Tower 353 > "Popcorn Double Feature" from late 1967/early 1968. So THAT'S what "popcorn music" is ... Phil Chapman wrote, of "At This Stage Of The Game": > However, I'm curious about '& The Cluster': there are some slightly > suspect male backing-vocals with a falsetto in Theremin style, and > a distinctly Ondiolinique keyboard under the middle 8. Most likely the German electronic group who recorded a few albums with Eno in the '70s ... Saw an amusing squib in yesterday's newspaper, stating that the Cash family has turned down an offer to feature the June-written*/Johnny- recorded song "Ring Of Fire" as the soundtrack to an ad campaign for a hemorrhoid ointment! I went down, down, down, --Phil M. *co-, with Merle Kilgore -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 08:42:49 +0100 From: Eddy Smit Subject: Re: Pat Boone 45 "Beach Girl" Billy wrote: > I also wonder which version was recorded first, Pat's or the > Rip Chords'? Anyone know the release dates? The Rip Chords' > version always sounded like a rough demo, with a very tinny > sounding backing track. I have a July 1964 release date for the Three Window Coupe album by The Rip Chords, which features Beach Girl, and an August 1964 release date for the Pat Boone 45. Eddy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 11:39:03 EST From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: Valiant Association / BobbyHart@65 / Tandyn Almer Mikey wrote: > Yes, but at the time that the Association LPs came out, Valiant had been > sold to WB. Thankeee. > Mark Hill wrote: > Turning 65 today (Wed 02/18/04): Bobby Hart. He co-wrote Austin Roberts' > first hit, "Something's Wrong With Me," with Danny Janssen. God bless em both! Al Kooper wrote: > And let's not forget the writer of Along Comes Mary......Tandyn > Almer. One of the greatest real names in the history of rock n roll!!! Right up there with Mars Bonfire. Austin R. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 07:06:18 -0800 (PST) From: Chris A. Schneider Subject: Re: Yiddishisms Rashkovsky on Yiddishisms: > the Annie Get Your Gun show-tune "Anything You Can Do" (Ethel > Merman/Ray Middleton duet) > Jus4duhrekkid, I'm not accepting Nathan Lane's simple "so nu" in > "Sue Me" from Guys and Dolls. "Nu" is Yinglish already. It does the heart good to see mention of Ray Middleton, whose "My Defences Are Down" on the original cast album of "Annie Get Your Gun" still has the capacity to knock a hypothetical listener's hypothetical socks off. Still, though, if you're gonna attribute a song to the performer rather than individual(s) who wrote it -- a habit which continues to rankle -- you might as well attribute that "So nu" in "Sue Me" to the original cast's Sam Levene. Even though it *was* written by Frank Loesser.... "You couldn't give me a lesson in long-distance spittin'!" (Merman), Chris P.S. As long you're talking Yiddishisms, why not mention the "Once I was a *schlepper* / Now I'm Miss Mazeppa" sung by Faith Dane in the Sondheim/Styne score for "Gypsy"? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 21:27:50 -0000 From: Jim Shannon Subject: Re: The Movies / Mad Lads Footnote to previous dispatch on BlueBeats, The #1 and The Movies: The Movies single was called "Cinnamon Square". While we're onto obscure bands, anyone remember The Mad Lads "I Wanna Girl"? Jim Shannon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 15:49:10 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Re: Ron Dante; Archies Billy G. Spradlin wrote, of "Strangers In The Morning": > A great record, but the subject matter is a little um..."mature" > for a bubblegum record. Visions of Archie and Betty (or another > girl?) waking up together after a wild night? I think it would > have fared well on Top 40 as a Ron Dante record. Billy, maybe it's an answer record!! "Who's your baby in the morning, who's your baby at night...." :) Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:12:24 +0100 From: Jan Kristensen Subject: Re: Larry Hall album Austin Powell wrote: > Other than that, the album on Strand was called "Sandy and other > Larry Hall Hits" (Strand SLS 1005) but I have no track listing. The tracks on "Sandy And Other Hits" are: The Stranger / A Girl Like You / I Didn't Ask To Be Born / Knick Knack Shelf / Lovin' Tree / Rosemary / Sandy / Sweet Lips / A Hundred For Every Boy / I'll Stay Single / Ladder Of Love / On The Street Where I Live / Rebel Heart JanK -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 06:53:09 EST From: Al Kooper Subject: Re: Happy (Songwriters) Together / At This Stage Of The Game That Alan Gordon wrote: > ... As far as how many times it has been played according to BMI > it has now passed the 6 million performance plateau in the USA. > And everytime I hear it I say AMEN!!! Speaking as a one-third writer of This Diamond Ring, which has only racked up 3 million performances, I can honestly say I'm quite jealous, and poorer ... Phil Chapman wrote: > We'll get there, eventually... latest info is that it is by > Linda Lawrence & The Cluster. > Meanwhile, did you get to listen to "At This stage Of The Game"? > I can see why it's still around... a neat melody, interestingly > phrased over a 7-bar verse and 9-bar chorus, flipping to the minor > for the payoff line. Linda's vocal is effortlessly agile.... I did get to listen. This is one of the best things about S'pop. However, if my career hinged on writing the music for "At This Stage Of The Game", I'd be flipping burgers in Flushing, Queens, at this stage of the game. Al Kooper At THIS stage of the Game -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 15:39:25 -0000 From: Craig Davison Subject: Da Doo Ron Ron soundalike I just picked up an old budget LP called "Beatlemania" by The Beat Boys, on Kent (#253). It looks to be a Canadian release on a subsidiary of the ARC label. On side two, there is a song called "And Now You're Gone", which sounds as if someone re-recorded the backing track to "Da Doo Ron Ron" and then composed some new, more inane lyrics. There's even a nearly note-for-note sax break, albeit in an abbreviated form. Simply amazing! I love this sort of schlock ... -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 15:34:40 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Re: Before & After/Chad & Jeremy Jim Shannon wrote: > Anyone know if these two releases by Chad and Jeremy are available > on CD? "Before and After" was classic British Folk-Rock. "Zanzibar" > was their final release. I have the 45 of "Before" but it is in poor > condition. Jim, I worked on the "Before & After" CD re-release for Sundazed and I gotta tell ya, you're gonna love the alternate version of "Before & After", which is one of a few bonus cuts on the CD. If you like C&J, Sundazed has put out a few of their LPs with bonus tracks. As far as "Zanzibar Sunset", I don't think the '83 LP has come out on CD, but I could be wrong. I know they have put a CD out of live performances from the mid '80s recently, so it likely has "Bite The Bullet", I'd guess, at least. Altho Rocshire Records went bankrupt shortly after the LP, the 45 reached the top 40 here in Lincoln, and there is even a video for the "Bite the Bullet" 45. Take care, Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:52:05 -0500 From: Joe Nelson Subject: Re: Happy Together and Valentine's Day previously: > Just an observation from the past week or so. Isn't it funny > how our own "That Alan Gordon" seems to have a padlock on THE > '60s song for Valentine's Day? I would like to know how many > times that song aired on radio on that day. On the day after > Val's Day, CBS' Sunday Morning program featured it exclusively > in their piece about love -- and they began playing it 4 different > times in that one piece!!! Which is funny, seeing as how the song isn't about the Valentine's ideal at all. The guy in the song is on the sidelines watching everyone else, and wants -- but isn't getting -- a piece of the action himself. Joe Nelson -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 18:12:21 -0000 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Sugar & the Spices I need some help with information for a project I'm working on. Maybe someone in S'popland can assist. Does anyone know anything about Sugar & the Spices? Not the girl group from Swan Records, but the outfit that had releases on the Tollie, Vee Jay and Stacy labels. I have the records, each of which was written and produced by the guitarist Al Casey. I know that the group played their own instruments. Other than that ... zilch. Where were they from? What were their names? Does anyone have a picture of the group? Who knows, Sugar or one of her Spices will get to see this message. It's been known. Their "Do The Dog" is one cool record. Thanks in advance. Hey la, Mick Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 12:47:29 -0800 (PST) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Doris Troy R.I.P. The first time I met Doris Troy was really a special occasion. Ben Raleigh and I were at Broadway Studios to do a piano/voice demo on a new song......and were waiting for the clients in front of us to finish. 10 minutes go by.......15 minutes....... 20 minutes later Ben and I were getting annoyed. Artie Ripp runs outside to apologize to us for running over and begs for our indulgence and 10 more minutes to finish up. Artie, barely able to contain himself, then invites us in to listen to Doris Troy put the last harmony part on "Just One Look" experience I'll never forget!! She has always been one of America's most under appreciated artists. I'm glad to be part of a group who recognizes Doris Troy as the monumental talent that she was......R.I.P. regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 20:48:11 -0000 From: Julio Niño Subject: "Cherry", Darlene McCrea, The Diplomats and a psychiatrist. Hola Everybody. Al kooper included in his "eleven of the best": > ...> Clarence Palmer & The Jive Bombers (Savoy 1515) You Took > My Love/Cherry. The follow-up to "Bad Boy" was not as well- > received, but as well sung... I think nobody has mentioned yet that "Cherry" was included in the movie "Cry Baby" by John Waters (I don´t know why John Waters films always remind me Frank Capra movies, I have to ask my psychiatrist about this). My favourite song right now is "Don´t Worry Baby" by Darlene McCrea included in the new, and marvelous, compilation by Mick Patrick for RPM : "Girls Go Zonk". The selection is full of good taste and fun. The record also includes the lovely "Tar and Cement" by Verdelle Smith, which in my opinion is clearly based on Françoise Hardy´s version of the Celentano´s original. Changing the subjet, the mention of The Diplomats and Van McCoy in some messages these days have brought to my mind "Can´t Get You off My Mind" a great song by The Diplomats included in an old Ace Records compilation, the song is uncredited in the compilation but when I listen to it I always think of Van McCoy. Another psychiatric case? Chao. Julio Niño. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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