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Spectropop - Digest Number 1346

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      1. Monkees... and "Art" with a capital "A"
           From: Albabe Gordon 
      2. Re: Goffin/King research
           From: John Berg 
      3. Great Sounding Columbia 360 Stereo
           From: Steveo 
      4. Re: Kitchen Cinq tapes
           From: Joe Nelson 
      5. Andee Silver/Goffin & King research
           From: Ian Chapman 
      6. Re: "Halfway"
           From: Julio Niño 
      7. Connie Francis albums
           From: David Bell 
      8. Re: Arthur Lee Harper
           From: Stephane Rebeschini 
      9. Re The Now Sound
           From: Justin McDevitt 
     10. Re: Spin & Marty/Triple-R Song
           From: T.D. Bell 
     11. Roses Are Red
           From: Bob Celli 
     12. for Paul Evans - Guaranteed Records
           From: steveo 
     13. Re: Goffin/King research
           From: Mikey 
     14. Re: The Hassles/New York City (You're...)
           From: James Botticelli 
     15. Re: The Now Sound
           From: Joe Nelson 
     16. Wall Of Pain
           From: Amber 
     17. Re: Teacho Wiltshire
           From: Mike Rashkow 
     18. Re: Mark & Clark - Ron Dante connection
           From: Jeff Lemlich 
     19. Re: The Now Sound
           From: James Botticelli 
     20. Re: Wayne Newton and  Pat Boone surf records
           From: steveo 
     21. Re: The Now Sound
           From: Paul Richard 
     22. Re: Moondog meets The Lonely Goat Herd?
           From: Mike Rashkow 
     23. various & sundry
           From: Mark 
     24. Hassles
           From: Larry Lapka 

Message: 1 Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 11:42:26 -0800 From: Albabe Gordon Subject: Monkees... and "Art" with a capital "A" Mark said of the Late Monkees: > I don't really know exactly what they were trying to accomplish > with "Head" and with that abominable special.....So The Monkees > completely abandoned the audience they had in order to try to win > acceptance from the audience that wanted nothing to do with them. I have to completely disagree with you, Mark. I don't think the Monkees "abandoned" anyone. I don't think that just because an artist does what he/she/they want to do musically, or what they think they need to do - means that they "abandon" anyone. Sometimes it's a process of them becoming more complicated and in turn, more mature. (Not that the two ideas are synonymous, or mutually exclusive). I think all of this depends on how old you are when you are first exposed to a new experience or "sound." I don't think that an artist has to pander to the tastes of their audience. In fact I would go so far to say that if they do... they aren't "artists..." they're just performers. Which is not a bad thing, it's just not a situation of honest and personal expression any more. I loved "Head," but I was 14 and my tastes were becoming more varied. I'm not sure why, but years after it was released, I wasn't that interested in "33 and a 1/3". I just watched it a few weeks ago and I really enjoyed it. It's certainly not for the attention span of an avid MTVer, but that's okay with me. the ex session player, comic book writer/artist and commentator formally known as ~albabe -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 15:50:53 EST From: John Berg Subject: Re: Goffin/King research Frank, A nice version of the song "You're Just What I Was Looking For Today" is also on the first post-Van Morrison THEM album from 1968 on the Tower label (subsidiary of Capital) -- and now available on CD, thanks to Rev-Ola. John Berg -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 12:03:23 -0800 (PST) From: Steveo Subject: Great Sounding Columbia 360 Stereo Howdy folks, Just wanted to write about what was on my mind as I was driving today. A friend's parent had bought a mid 60s stereo console (big piece of furniture) in about 1965. One day in the 80s I acquired 2 albums, "Winners" - Steve Lawrence and another album with Johnny Mathis containing the song "The Most Beautiful Girl in the World." Both of these albums were on Columbia Records and utilized the "360" stereo sound process. My friend and I played both of them in his parents' den on that console, and the sound was truly amazing! Great separation and an overall wonderful sound. I know that some recordings that were made at the Columbia Studios either in Hollywood or NYC had excellent acoustics. I'm wondering more about why these early 60s "360" stereo sound records sounded so great. Obviously the echo chamber. What else was it about this? Can anybody comment on this process? Steveo -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 17:28:13 -0500 From: Joe Nelson Subject: Re: Kitchen Cinq tapes John Berg wrote: > I know that one reissue label is quite interested in doing a Kitchen > Cinq CD, if they can track down who currently owns the rights and > has the master tapes. Mark T: > The LHI stuff was distributed by Decca so all of the tapes should be > at Universal. As for who owns it, Lee Hazlewood might still own the > LHI stuff and Universal the Decca tracks. UMG might have the whole lot. LHI might well have been a vanity deal between Hazelwood and Decca. A few years back, I was trying to figure out why the Epic Splendor singles were MIA. The question that came up was whether Capitol or Charles Koppelman and Don Rubin physically owned the tapes. Eventually I was able to contact producer John Boylan who said that Capitol owned all the Hot Biscuit tracks outright and that the tapes should be on file, including the four track masters and the unreleased stereo remixes he prepared. Of course, Koppelman and Rubin became hotshots at Capitol in time anyway, so it made sense that if they did own the tapes they'd have followed them to EMI. Joe Nelson -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 00:42:04 -0000 From: Ian Chapman Subject: Andee Silver/Goffin & King research John Berg wrote: > A nice version of the song "You're Just What I Was Looking For > Today" is also on the first post-Van Morrison THEM album from > 1968 on the Tower label (subsidiary of Capital).... For those 60s Brit girls aficionados among us, there was also a very good version by Andee Silver on Decca in '69. Ian -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 23:08:13 -0000 From: Julio Niño Subject: Re: "Halfway" Hola Everybody, Thanks to Mick Patrick for playing in musica Frankie Laine's version of "Halfway". I have to say that I like the Bruce and Terry demo a lot more. I'm convinced that Eddie Hodges' version must be more suggestive. I like Eddie's early recordings very much, particularly "The Bandit of My Dreams" (which has a stimulating combination of innocence and perversity, a sort of Tom Thumb having sweet dreams of the Ogre...yes, I know I have a twisted mind). I love the voice of a cute bad boy he had when he was a teenager. Chao, Julio Niño. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 17:51:14 EST From: David Bell Subject: Connie Francis albums Hello TD Stout, Actually, "Connie and Clyde" is available on CD. It was released in the States on the Audiophile label (ACD 286) in 1996. Could have sworn it was just yesterday. Track listing: 1. Please Don't Talk About Me When You're Gone. 2. Brother, Can You Spare A Dime? 3. Maybe. 4. Am I Blue? 5. Button Up Your Overcoat. 6. You Ought To Be In Pictures. 7. Ace In The Hole. 8. Somebody Else Is Taking My Place. 9. With Plenty Of Money And You / We're In The Money. 10. Just a Gigolo. 11. Ain't Misbehavin'. 12. Connie And Clyde. I don't think the Bacharach album has been reissued, although many of the tracks have appeared all over the place. Tracks: 1. What The World Needs Now. 2. Promises Promises 3. The Look Of Love. 4. Do You Know The Way To San Jose? 5. Trains And Boats And Planes. 6. Make It Easy On Yourself. 7. Alfie. 8. This Girl's In Love With You / I Say A Little Prayer. 9. Wanting Things. 10. Walk On By. 11. Blue On Blue / Magic Moments. 12. Don't Make Me Over. Hope this helps. Best wishes, David. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 23:57:51 +0100 From: Stephane Rebeschini Subject: Re: Arthur Lee Harper Dan Hughes a écrit: > Does anyone here know Arthur Lee Harper? He did an album on LHI called > "Arthur", wherein he sounded much like a very young, doe-eyed Donovan. > A couple of years later another album ("Love Is The Message", I believe it > was called), under his full name, on Nocturne which is worth several > hundred dollars now. > Anyway, he and I were pen pals in the '60s when I was a student at Purdue > and on into my Air Force days, and he was a student in San Jose, if I > remember correctly. I've often wondered if he's still in the biz. Hi Sorry to have to tell you this, but Arthur Lee Harper died in January 2002. Here is some extra info about him, as a Swiss label released last year a third LP of his songs. Stephane ---------------- New on RD Records: Arthur Lee Harper: Memories (Deluxe LP) Switzerland RD Records specialises in totally UNRELEASED Recordings from the 60s/70s only! Please see the RD Records homepage for details: RD 11 Arthur Lee Harper - Memories What we have here are songs Arthur Lee Harper had recorded during the time of his two albums "Dreams And Images" and "Love Is The Revolution". These songs are on neither album. Imagine the best you know from him and you can imagine what it's all about. In mid January 2002 Arthur Lee died the night after his wife was killed in a car accident. What you hear on this record is his legacy, authorized by his children. Ultra thick cover deluxe LP! This is not a re-issue....this is a limited first release. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 18:28:14 -0700 From: Justin McDevitt Subject: Re The Now Sound Phil Milstein wrote: > "The Now Sound" is as good a name for this genre as I could > imagine -- has it been kicking around for a while, or did you > just come up with it? I also wonder what label The Brass Ring was on. Hi Phil and Spectropop, I'm a bit hazy regarding the first time I heard the term THE NOW SOUND in reference to the light and airy type of music that characterized this genre. It must have been in the later part of the 60s. The Now Sound is also the title of The Brass Ring's 3rd Lp from 1968, recorded, like the previous two LPs on Dunhill. I don't know if The Ray Charles Singers or Ray Conniff would qualify for representation in the Now Sound stable of artists. I say this because I've always associated this sound with instrumental ensembles like the Tijuana Brass, The Baha Marimba Band, The Teabones, Raymond Lefevre, Paul Mauriat and to some extent James Last. Though regarding vocalists, I might put Chris Montez in the Now Sound category as I think about his treatment of such standards as "The More I See You," "Time After Time," "Call Me" etc. So could some of the Lettermen's stuff from 1967-68. Speaking of "Call Me," a good bit of the venerable Ms Petula Clark's work from the late 60s could be included with other Now Sound tracks. "Don't Give Up" and "Have Another Dream On Me" come to mind. (You say tomato--One man's ceiling is another man's floor; to each his/her own). Justin McDevitt -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 21:39:17 -0500 From: T.D. Bell Subject: Re: Spin & Marty/Triple-R Song Mary wrote: > Remember the Mickey Mouse Club....Spin and Marty??? Does anyone > have the words to the "Triple R Song"? The only verse I can remember offhand is: When tenderfeet come to the Triple R (yippee yea! yippee yo!) The get on a horse, but they don't get far (yippee yea! yippee yo!) Around the corral they trot and trot 'Till they can't sit down on the tender spot Yippee yea! Yippee Yii! Yippee yo! --TD -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 03:09:18 -0000 From: Bob Celli Subject: Roses Are Red I did an interview with Cliff Crofford a few years ago. Cliff wrote "Old Rivers" for Walter Brennan and "Chip Chip" for Gene McDaniels. He had an interesting story about "Roses Are Red". He told me that Snuff Garrett asked him and Tommy Allsup to listen to a stack of demos he had just received to see if there was anything worthwhile there. Cliff listened to his half of the stack and didn't think anything was worthwhile there, while Tommy listened to the other half and picked out "Roses Are Red" as he thought it might work for Bobby Vee. As it turned out, Snuffy had Johnny Burnette record the song and Vee never did. BTW, if you read this, Paul Evans, the singer on the Audiosonic acetate that I sent you a CD-R and a color label shot of a few years ago turned out to be none other than Paul Simon. Bob Celli -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 19:39:56 -0800 (PST) From: steveo Subject: for Paul Evans - Guaranteed Records Paul, I would like to ask about your label Guaranteed Records. What is the the story on it, and who owned it? Steveo -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 17:24:42 -0500 From: Mikey Subject: Re: Goffin/King research Don, when and where is the Mann / Weil show? I live in Manhattan. Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 19:30:23 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: The Hassles/New York City (You're...) Jim Shannon wrote: > Fast speed to Al Kooper; one of my favorite songs was a great > composition called "New York City (You're A Woman)." Really nice > vocals and lyrics. Also, good song to seg with on radio. Is that from "I Stand Alone"? I actually have the book of sheet music for that LP. And if Al could let us know if he's still at Berklee. -- James Botticelli former Berklee PR guy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 17:36:09 -0500 From: Joe Nelson Subject: Re: The Now Sound James Botticelli wrote: > Like Nelson Riddle, Frank Barber, Howard Roberts, Bob Crewe, > Enoch Light.... Light went one better, mentoring a couple of rock-oriented bands. Joe Nelson -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 19:48:47 -0000 From: Amber Subject: Wall Of Pain Paul Bryant wrote: > I see Wall Of Pain has hit the book & record shops. Anyone > read it yet? Fuzzy Bunnies, Ah yes, I remember it well... It was during one of my wild weekends in New York in 1962 that I famously taught Phil Spector to Hully Gully. It was at the Peppermint Lounge. He was entranced by three new foxes shaking their stuff on the rails. Honeys, I soon put a stop to that. I recognized the intro to the Dovells' "Hully Gully Baby" the second the needle hit the wax. Before Phil knew it, I'd whipped that cape from his shoulders and dragged his sorry ass onto the dancefloor... Anyway, there's little else to do in this hell-hole than read every music biography that slides my way. Wall Of Pain is the fourth tome about Phil Spector I've devoured in as many months. If you can't get hold of the books written by Rob Finnis, Richard Williams or Mark Ribowski - the latter two are still in print - then this newer one isn't a total waste of time. There: a bad review. So sue me! Now, if one of you lambs would like to send me a care package containing the new Marvelettes book... AvT xxx -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 17:39:32 EST From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Re: Teacho Wiltshire Al Kooper wrote: > I actually studied with Teacho Wiltshire (hence the Teacho). He was > so busy he would have me write ghost arrangements for him around '63 > - '64. B-sides mostly. But what an education! This question of this name came up way back months ago. I suggested the possibility that it was a corruption of Teacher. Now I am less sure of that based on the knowledge of a journalist named Terry Teachout. The French pronunciation of Teachout is likely to be close enough to Teacho for government work, and many times in the Southern US the first son is given the mother's maiden name as a first name--for instance my old junior high school chum, Colquitt Tanner. At this time I am more prepared to think the name came from Teachout. At the same time, I will bow to Koop's greater knowledge in all things music. I am loathe to disagree with him unless armed with the Holy Bible, the Encyclopedia Brittanica and a Mossburg Persuader, 12 Gauge, Pistol Grip. Di la, Rashkovsky -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 00:59:48 -0000 From: Jeff Lemlich Subject: Re: Mark & Clark - Ron Dante connection Ron Dante wrote : > Mark and Clark were a fun duo to produce. We used twin grand pianos > in the studio, and they played the heck of them on each song. > Recently they played Las Vagas at the Imperial Palace lounge. You can hear Ron's song "Jigsaw Woman", performed by The Mark & Clark Band, now playing in musica. Jeff Lemlich -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 20:16:45 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: The Now Sound Justin McDevitt wrote: > I don't know if The Ray Charles Singers or Ray Conniff would qualify for > representation in the Now Sound stable of artists. I say this because > I've always associated this sound with instrumental ensembles like the > Tijuana Brass, The Baha Marimba Band, The T-Bones, Raymond Lefevre, > Paul Mauriat and to some extent James Last. Anyone could have made a 'Now Sound' LP. Billy May did even. It was the sort of rockin' arrangements given to Top-40 songs in an instrumental style that was as at home in the supermarket, elevator, or dentist's office as it was on Dad's hi-fi. Nowadays you hear the Stones in the supermarket, elevator, and dentist's office, Dad is deaf or dead, and you have to go to a special nightclub Tuesday evenings to hear the 'Now Sound'. -- James Botticelli -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 17:47:56 -0800 (PST) From: steveo Subject: Re: Wayne Newton and Pat Boone surf records Eddy wrote: > produced by Terry Melcher. They both have Bruce Johnston on backing > vocals. Eddy, Of the two, I enjoy the 1964 Pat Boone single "Beach Girl" on Dot Records. Bruce and terry were doing a production for Pat similar to "Don't Worry Baby". The track and feel is similar. Steveo -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 21:19:44 EST From: Paul Richard Subject: Re: The Now Sound Great subject -- you'll have to write a book on it sometime, Justin. I love The Arbors & early Sandpipers/Grads in this lovely category. Cheers, Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 20:48:58 EST From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Re: Moondog meets The Lonely Goat Herd? previously: > Well, The Moondog did do an album with Julie Andrews in the 50s, so I > could almost go for Phil's reply. Does anyone know where the Moondog/ > Julie Andrews collaboration can be obtained? Who's zoomin' who here? That dude that used to stand out there on 5th Ave. dressed like a Viking with a pullcart -- he recorded with Julie Andrews? I mean I know he was a trained musician, but he was also quite strange -- hard to picture him and Julie Andrews. Kind of like Esquerita recording with Itzhak Perlman. Di la, Rashkovsky -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 02:54:15 GMT From: Mark Subject: various & sundry Hey Guys! Running a little behind ... this message should catch me up ... LOL! First off, welcome to Jerry Osbourne, Paul Evans and Donna Marie! Jerry, your columns have entertained and informed me for years! Paul, I just love "Seven Little Girls", and your version of "Midnight Special" is my favorite. Donna, I hope to find out more about you and your career ... sorry I don't seem to be as familiar with your work as some of the other S'poppers are. Dr. Mark: are you still keeping up with Laugh-In and the musical acts? I was wondering if they've shown either the Legendary Stardust Cowboy's appearance or Wild Man Fischer's (!) appearance on the show. Record label blunders: I picked up a copy of Polly Brown's underrated "Up In a Puff of Smoke" at a record convention. Imagine my surprise when I played it, only to hear Bobby 'Blue' Bland singing "I Wouldn't Treat a Dog The Way You Treated Me"! Re Caroline Munro who sang "Tar and Cement": Is this the same Caroline Munro who was an actress? Al Kooper: from the list of songs you mentioned, I noticed Ernie Andrews "Where Were You When I Needed You" and Lorraine Ellison's "I'm Over You" -- these are both fine beat ballads. I have the Lorraine Ellison "Best Of" CD that Ichiban issued sometime ago (out of print now), and there's another song of yours on there, the funky "Doin' Me Dirty" (from the movie The Landlord). Did you ever meet Lorraine Ellison? (Happy 60th B-day, BTW!) Re fake skipping records: I don't recall anyone mentioning the Turtles' tune "Grim Reaper of Love" (a seemingly ENDLESS fake skip!). Re "Open Up Your Heart": I recall this song also being used for a short time as the closing theme for the Flintstones. Pebbles and Bamm-Bamm played the tune in a concert hall as the closing credits rolled (I think this was the last season of the show). Re Cameo/Parkway subsidiaries: there was also Double R (a soul label) and a label called Volcano (or something similar I saw once in a thrift shop). Also, I've seen scans of Northern soul 45s on Sounds of Soul and Key-Loc which read 'distributed by Cameo-Parkway'. I've also seen non-C/P scans of these labels. Re DJ pronounciations: There was a group called the Five Empressions, who had a song called "Little Miss Sad". They had to change their name to the Five Emprees, as the ordinary radio listener would have misheard 'Empressions' as 'Impressions' (the Impressions were hot at the time). Re Patty Duke and "Tell Me Mama": this is the same song as the Christine Quaite tune we were discussing a while back. Odd that Patty never seems to have issued it on a record. Re Feldman/Goldstein/Gottehrer: Their record with Patty Lace and the Petticoats, "Say One (Is a Lonely Number)", was co-written with someone named Pegues. I surmise that this is Louis Pegues, Jr., better known to us Northern soul fans as Lou Courtney. PHEW ... that's it! Best, Mark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 19:14:35 -0800 (PST) From: Larry Lapka Subject: Hassles Dear Jim Shannon: The Hassles were on United Artists. They released two albums and several singles under the Hassles name. I have one of their albums somewhere here, and if I remember correctly, Billy Joel is listed as "Billy Joe." Billy was also in something called Atilla, and yes, he wore some type of body armor -- that was their gimmick, like the Raiders with their Revolutionary War garb. It didn't work for Billy, though. I don't know the truth in this, but I hear Joel owns all his work with the two bands, and refuses to release anything; he is embarrassed by it. Can anybody verify this? Larry Lapka P.S.: Right around the time he hit it big, you could see Billy riding his motorcycle all the time on the streets of Huntington, Long Island, a short ride from where I live. Right after he hit it real big, you didn't see him riding the motorcycle much anymore. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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